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Random AOT S2 E12 Question

Eren can't use the coordinate to control titans without making contact with someone of royal blood, right?  So why was he able to do it when he threatened Reiner & Bertolt while carrying Mikasa in S2 E12?  Just curious...maybe there's a time limit on how long he can use it after making contact with royal blood?  Idk, I'm editing the S2 E12 episode right now and it's my favorite episode in the series so I wanted to know why this was!!!

Random AOT S2 E12 Question

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dina was within wall maria but not rose which is where eren was

Ashley Twigg

How do we know he isn't able to use it for a short time once his powers are activated. We only saw it happen twice

Agent X

Something fun I like to think about is that grisha stole the founding power then had to make it to trost where the shinganshina refugees were. We later see Dina still Wandering inside the walls outside trost. Technically there was a small chance of grisha seeing Dina as he made his way to eren to deliver the founding and attack. He could very well have used the founding that day the walls fell.

Rick Turpentine

This is exactly the case, to use the power of the founder without being royal you need to touch a Titan or Titan shifter with royal blood

TheXtreme15

It's a technical extension not big enough to be a plot hole

Gu

I'm not 100% sure, but my best guess is that he was able to use the power for a short time after coming into contact with a Titan of royal blood. We only see it happen 2 times so its not entirely a plot hole

Agent X

nah, erwin had some straight up selfish motives..armin was the right choice!

Joey Nato

Question: since you’re caught up, and seen armins actions throught the show, do you think Erwin would have done a better job fighting for humanity if he was alive instead of armin? Or would you still choose armin over Erwin. Erwin with the colossal titan, or armin with the colossal? It’s almost poetic how the show wrote it to be where, the most pacifist, peaceful character (armin), got the power of destruction.

&y

The reason why eren was able to use the coordinate in season 2 because the titan that he punched is Dina fritz which is have a royal blood. You can only use the the coordinate if youre a descendant of a royal blood.

Raider Muego

Because it looks coolrr

Brandon Guzman

Definitely a time limit. I don't think there would be a plot hole that big. After getting in contact with someone with royal blood Eren gains the power to control the Coordinate for a time...

Jouvanne Thomas

Most likely a time limited thing. Or for dramatic effect. Either way, the last part of AoT (only manga rn) explains more of this, so guess you'll have to wait to find out

Krystal

guessing theres a time limit bc mikasa being true royal blood would be a major majorr plot hole

aadimy

His Titan marks were still on his face 🤷‍♂️probably a time limit

Brandon Stillings

Btw i can assure you it’s never mentioned, I’ve read the manga. 😆

KatyRose

Yeah my bad I jusr re-read it

Izy G

Yall he knows dina is royal blood, that’s not what he was asking 🤦‍♀️

KatyRose

It’s never mentioned, so i think it’s probably just a plot hole, a lot of aot’s story is intricate and well thought out, but there are a few small plot holes from earlier in the story that are unexplained

KatyRose

Well.. Not really. U can actually see a small scene where the weird worm thing captures zeke within Eren's transformation. Which makes his titan constantly in contact with zeke, hence why he can keep using the rumbling.

Yessi

hopefully tomorrow at some point!

Joey Nato

Unrelated but Joey, when is the next spy x family episode?

Lijnaito2021 !

Yea will do but that would create some major plot holes cause I feel like he would've definitely had contact with her in other instances where he would've tried to use the power. I'm sure they would've tested something like that at least. And at this point, does it really matter? He got Zeke anyway lol

AsterJ

Just also want to say, if my theory about Mikasa of being royal blood ends up being correct (since he's holding mikasa while using the coordinate the 2nd time)..remember where you heard it first lol

Joey Nato

Wait he kept Zeke. I didn't see that in the anime

makotheQ60

The most logical explanation is that Isayama probably made it that there's a lingering connection to The Paths/Ymir after making contact, merged DNA through skin cells or something of the sort. Eren definitely knows that just making contact for a short period of time isn't enough to keep the connection with the Founder for a very long time and that's likely why he kept Zeke with him when he turned into the Hallucegenia/Centipede Titan lol

AsterJ

he touched the smiling titan "Diana", who has royal blood, that's why he could use the coordinate only at that moment, random fact Diana said 'it doesn't matter if I'm a titan I'll find you anywhere' maybe she followed the essence of Grisha

Roberto Duran

it's reallly close between those 2, it depends on the day lol since i'm editing this episode rn it's this 1 lol but i've watched the Scream scene many many times

Joey Nato

Wasn’t ur favourite Midnight Sun?

Kristi Maxhari

My assumption is that there is a time limit, or he was able to use it until the titan (Dina) eroded/ died completely.

Asha Draws

Dina(smiley titan) is royal blood and he punched her hand so that contact allowed him to use the power of the founding titan.

ORORA06

Since you’re already caught up, he also does it after making contact with Zeke then does his scream to control the Wall Titans

Drai

SPOILERS for S2 and S3. Eren doesn't have royal blood which is needed to use the power of the coordinate. Grisha's first wife/ mother to Zeke/ killer of Eren's mom who he punched in that scene where he used the coordinate had royal blood.

Cl0s3tW33b

the time limit is the only thing i can think of. or mikasa is of royal blood & we dont know it lol DOUBT IT though

Joey Nato

it makes me start to wonder if mikasa is of royal blood too or something tbh lol i know dina is what caused it, but this was like minutes after so..idk

Joey Nato

Cuz he touched Dina after punching her hand, he ordered the other titans in the area to eat her. Then when carrying Mikasa he ordered them to stay away. There must’ve been a time limit between touching Dina and ordering Reiner to get away. Makes the most sense to me.

Ashley Martin

Well theres like a buffer when he can still use it after he punches dina fritz's titan (who's got royal blood)

Matthew Diehl

Dina, Grisha's ex wife was a descendent of the royal blood. So when Eren punched back Dina's hand, they touched and triggered the power

Alex Wu

Remember when he punched the hand of the smiley titan? The smiley titan is of Royal Blood, so when he punched her hand, he was able to use the coordinate. Not sure on the time limit of its effectiveness, but that is what triggered it.

Jonathan Speziale

That’s the assumption the show makes u think. You got it right, really enjoy the uncut series so far!!

Jeremy Scholz


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