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The main character is a girl?

Many people were surprised by the news that our new game will have a female protagonist. Today I'm going to tell you why I want to do this.

All games with male protagonists can be boiled down to just one formula: you create a perfect alpha-male who fucks everything in his path. That's how they all work, same thing over and over and over again. Simple and predictable.

But when the main character is a girl, then the whole game is completely different. Instead of just being an empty avatar for players to project themselves on, female protagonist is her own character. And the players can create all kinds of spicy situations to see where it can lead. Here are some examples:

Let's say the main character is trying to steal something and the principal catches her red handed. How is she going to resolve the situation? Will she choose to be punished or will she try to bribe the principal with money or sex? You don't get as many different options if your main character is a man. I don't think you want to see one man spank another as a punishment, let alone see them fucking.

Here's another example. The main character is taking a shower in college after PE. After leaving the shower she finds out someone has decided to prank her and now all of her clothes are in the men's changing room. What is she going to do? Should she go into the men's room naked, feel embarrassed and risk losing her reputation and who knows what else? Or should she wait for a teacher, who could either help her our or use the situation? You don't get this kinds of choices in a game with a male protagonist.

Kate, the game protagonist, is going to be very shy in the beginning of the game because she was raised in a conservative Christian family. And you, as a player, will get to decide how much you want to change her. How is she going to react on having to change in the locker room in college? Is she going to tan topless on the beach? How long is her skirt going to be? Will she take a pizza delivery in nothing but panties? Would you want your character to go naked outside? There are lots of possibilities to play around with this idea.

Here's another side to this: How slutty do you want to make your protagonist? When you play as a man there's no downside to building a harem, that's the goal of the entire game. Being an easy slut, on the other hand, might have negative consequences. You, the player, are going to be the one who draws the line. Maybe you want your character to be a whore? A dominatrix?

Here's another choice. When you play as a man you can only sleep with women. But when you play as a woman you can sleep with women, men, or both. Do you want to seduce your girl friend or do you want to steal away her boyfriend? Do you want to join them so you can all have fun together?

Your Kate can be completely different from someone else's Kate. Unlike a male protagonist, who is usually always has the same alpha-male personality without any concern about his reputation.

The main character is a girl?

Comments

Ye, cause you can't make a male MC complicated and give him hard choices... You don't need a reason to make a female MC, but please don't give a bs reason.

In my opinion the problem with this, is that most players are men and its hard for them to indentify with a female main character. I'd prefer male mc. I think there are still plenty of opportunities with that approach even if the general goal is the same in all these games...fck all women.

Yeah. Coll ass.

Borr

hello can someone help me please are blocked and do not know how to move on 1 I've been hurt for several hours I've had sex with ya and year in the salon at the kitchen I was just as alice in the bathroom Β  2 the same way and liss several times in the kitchen when we had sex with ana I do not know what to do next

That's uncalled for!

Martyn

Do you even know how lucky you are to have a wife? Stop playing video games where you pretend to get pussy and do something about it in real life. Playing video games "with your wife" will not solve any issues, it'll just grow your dependence on a third-party thing to have a successful marriage. I don't think you understand just how privileged you are to say something like that. I'm not sure what I find more pathetic, the fact that you have a wife and still use Big Brother to get off. Or the fact that you think a video game will improve your marriage, LOL.

I for one will not support your new game. The new project you're working on, (Glamour) reeks of desperation, a female protagonist is a mistake, and ultimately, I hope it fails. That is all.

Exciting, very much looking forward to your new game. You may lose some BB fans but will gain new fans that didn't like or play BB.

Martyn

Alex do you even support anyone? All characters can be onesided. It's up to the creator to make it worth while. My point is woman are either good or bad, and almost all play the woman to be the worst she can be. Again I guess I'm not too into the is he gonna like me and am I a slut games. I do pledge to a couple creators were the female is the MC, but loose interest in them quickly generally. Only a couple have my interest still but there's only so much for a girl to do. Because in life woman get screwed, woman get raped, woman get bribed, woman get stuck in BDSM, women get pregnant! As a male I have a hard time thinking as a woman in the Dr. Evil or even the 007 character. As you pointed out yeah she decides who fucks her but that's it. As a male I find it strange that a bunch of men want to be a whore woman with no brains. In BB the Aunt was a dumb bitch who was sleeping on her sister's couch. Being that woman would not be my cup of tea. Again willing to try it out, and hopefully it is not a lame duck. Patreon's rule changes and NAZI tactics have killed of some good games and creators. The more you guy's give in the tighter they will squeeze you. Fuck Patreon NAZI SCUMBAGS!

Timothy Crosby

This time at some point in the game you can become someone cunning person like aunt Kira. For example you get acquainted with a celebrity boy at a concert. Let it be Emin Agalarov. And you want to have sex with him. But he loves his wife. So you have to corrupt his wife. May be you can show her that she should fuck with some other man (or girl). So you can occupy her place. There are a lot of possibilities. And cunning girl looks much better then cunning boy IMHO.

Dear Dark Silver, please don't pay too much attention to people who don't like female main character. Situation is that if person like to play for female MC then he just will wait for a game. In silence. If he doesn't like - he will write a post about how bad to play for a girl.

I think that Dark Silver's team are the best guys who make adult games right now. Lesson of Passion looks like indie studio comparing to you guys. The only one thing that concerned me was an incest topic. But as far as you changed the course, it is not a problem any more. I read description of your new game. It sounds great! Please move in this direction. I think that you will have much more patrons when they will see how great your new game will be. Best wishes to you guys!!!

The game for women this time is sad

Ariox Hant

it will be sad anyway is a woman with a trauma that need to be drugged to acept max

Genitalico

Never thought the day we have sex with mom is a sad day. πŸ˜•

Hlextor

sad to see bb go but i cant wait to try this one out. I generally prefer female mc.

cesar guadarrama

I don't mind what the main char is as long as the game is good and spicy and I am sure Dark Silver would deliver a good product.

FGD12

This will be better

Incest is illegal here with changes in Patreon rules

It's a will of people, right? I can't continue BB development here, I can't fundraise money for it here. How can I make such kind of promise?

Yes you should.

I'll try to balance amount of circumstances

I generally am not a fan of female protagonist porn games because I don't like the character I control to be pressured by circumstances. I know a lot of people like controlling a character and having them fall to depravity, but it just feels dirty to me. As long as I can normally seduce some ladies without being forced into anything I don't care about the protagonist's gender, otherwise I'll pass on this one.

Ezzie

hope dont be girl main char game , i played one and was bad

Sound like Good Girl Gone Bad. I love that style. I hope the game have tag: Incest :D

Kate from Glamour.

Huh...

Borr

Who is this? Anna from BB?

Borr

Good idea, especially if it has more paths than good/bad girl

MANITU Games

Willing to try out the new game. Just hope it's not a repeat this actions 20 times to advance game. Things get overly repetitive and interest is lost because of the amount of repetitive stuff necessary just to maybe see some sex. Like a porn where you might see some XXX but probably not because an hour ago you made the wrong choice. Really pisses some people off!

Timothy Crosby

Dude you proved my point! Female protagonist suck because there are only 2 paths to take. Good girl or bad girl whore. Personally not into playing as a female. I guess I have testosterone and a lot of you do not. But as I stated earlier that I do not even play normal games where a woman is the main character. I have zero feminine qualities and can not relate to a female character. Again maybe it's a testosterone issue! LOL. I love women and as some have pointed out they can imagine being the MC and relate to the story by identifying with him. Why because over 80% of us patrons are men. Yes there are those of us who fantasize about being a woman, which is why cross dressing exist. LOL. But seriously all the best with Glamour.

Timothy Crosby

Great choice of direction with the new game, Silver! In my porn gaming experience, the ones with female protagonists are the best - of course, I can't imagine why anyone would chose any other route than the complete shameless whore one, but hey, it's good to know other options are there! :D For my two cents' worth, I do hope you do not hold back on the hardcore / messy stuff and that you veer away from the borderline-softcore aesthetic (and dialogues) of BB. I mean, if porn games can't be downright nasty, what can?

Mr. Stibbons

Wish you success with your new game, Dark Silver. On a first glance, it looks way more promising then BB was in recent months, since the going of Eric. I just hope you will have enough sex in this game this time and show some female genitals, too, not the lame teasing you have constantly done in BB. Sometimes it was on the same level as 50 Shades of Grey - totally lame and uninspired. ;) Sorry to be so open. For me the female MC is a good decision.

AbyssalEros

I really like the concept having a female main character. There are so many different scenarios that can be introduce. Please do not make it a grind to advance as you did in BB, that was truly painful. I am looking forward to this new game and the new web site. I do like voyeurism in a game is this possible with a female main character? Please maintain your outstanding artwork, and imaginative game play. Thankyou looking forward to the new material.

Nimrodlepord

people will keep pledging if you keep developing bb even if you say the new updates will be slowed and will be every 3 months and just released in discord but you just trashed it, not cool

can i ask you why do you support milfarion if the game is abandoned?

Sorry DS, what i have to say. Maybe you earn to less money with Glamour. You know, if you change your mind regarding a later relaunch of BB and you would make an announcement: β€žHi guys, BB goes further!β€œ ... you would have straightaway 500 more (new, old) highly pledger! Believe me. So should i wish you good luck with Glamour? 🀫

Hlextor

Thanks, will look into it. Hopefully FMC starts alone like MMC games. Neglected by man and horny is as common a start in FMC games as harem is finishing goal in MMC games.

Djinnee

I don't want to do advertising or something here, but for the reasons you mentioned, one of my favorite adult games is "Good Girl Gone Bad". The simplest reason to play a female protagonist is that you simply have a much wider horizon of ways to play your character. Maybe she's just a shy girl who wants to get dirty sometimes, or is she a total hooker who makes her money for her drugs through sex and prostitution simple. Ps: Sorry for my bad english, Germany is my native language.

Kappaツ

If you think the MMC story is too predictable or overdone, write a different story; that's on your writing or writing team. Your description seems to take the male bias - whore, dominatrix, good girl - a woman who enjoys and has a healthy sex life needs a degrading title. Hope Glamour stays away from the rape and victim sex. Will your next preview be of a male member, will there be varied sizes like the breast & butts of MMC games. Writing on BB was good and I think you could have made a different kind of MMC game, but the trust in your writing means new games deserves to be played before judged. GOOD LUCK with Glamour.

Djinnee

male protagonist work because almost all the adult gamers are men that like to pretend be the mc, as a straight man i don't want to play as a teenage girl looking for a boyfriend at the same time evading other mans wanting to fuck me for money or something else, nope, im out

I'm all in for female protagonists! Good luck, I'll be keeping a close eye on this

GeeSeki

I guess if I wanted to be a woman it would be okay. But I do not even play as a female in real video games. Not saying this can't be cool or work for some, but all you do as a female is be a whore or not be a whore. If not it's just a dating simulator where you're a girl, WOW! LOL. Sucks that Big Brother will get scrapped. It was one of my first games and creators I sponsor. Sadly Patreon has ruined a lot of games and creators with out care to us Patrons. Good luck with the new game though. Please let us know when and where we can get BB13.

Timothy Crosby

I am Very excited about this news always preferred female MC but love your other game

lets just hope, but the story is pretty straight forward so at some point you wont be able to be kate before he meet MC, you will probably be a FMC that is looking for new experiences.

TFU3

I am looking forward to shaping young Kate's destiny, and perhaps trashing her reputation..

NuTrix

same thing aplies to male protagonist.. just reverse sex.. now game will have either same vagina, or 2 vaginas without dick.. so.. yea..

omocik

Seems You (Dark Silver) don't have enough imagination of how to get pussy as a beta guy... Alas, little Max was about as far from being alpha as he could possibly be. So your arguments for a female main protagonist aren't really valid. "As a male you can only fuck females..." - wow, really? You heard about gay people, right? I bet there even are some players who would use the option to fuck males as a male character in a game... they do it when they play female characters, so there's not much of a difference... except as a female char they get fucked, of course. Ah well, dropped my patreon already last month, after seeing the plans for what was supposed to go on in BB - same old, same old - so good luck with this new game, but I won't play it.

Maik Decker

How is it that someone can relate to a male PC who is trying to have sex with his Mom, his Aunt, and his 2 sisters but a female PC is too far of a stretch?

Tall Geeky & Cool

More importantly, maybe women will play glamor too (my dream would be that my wife would play glamor with me, I would have no more problems at home) There was always a trouble when I played BB. If there is something new, we will see how it develops, I am confident.

lukumo

I just want to know when I can play it. I far prefer a female protagonist.

Miro

I'm making polls when I can go in both ways. But in this case I do want to make an attempt to create something different than BB and something better than BB

Thats not the story that DS is going with though so your point doesnt prove anything

M4t7theNinja

Pretty sure if a fan is paying money they are allowed to bitch and moan about anything they like as it is there money

M4t7theNinja

You should of had a pole to decide what gender the new MC would be tbh. Playing as a female as a straigh guy is weird. Now you will need to play as a female and start looking for guys to have sex with which is by default (in my opinion) the weirdest thing a straight man is tasked to do. Its like watching POV porn but its from the females point of view. No straight guy would watch it. I understand that you want to make something different but i think doing a female MC usually turns 70% if not more straight men off which is bad because that's pretty much your whole audience. Its your game and you can do what you want but its pretty obvious it was gonna take a hit with this decision. Again i would advise to make a Poll just in case. Again this is just an opinion from a pateron.

While I agree with what you're saying, every game with a female protag I've played haven't been as good as the ones with a male protag. Mainly because I'm male and I can't relate to a female character, it's not as immersive. I feel like I'm just watching someone else's life if I'm playing as a female. These games just aren't my cup of tea, I wish you good luck on the game though, DS. :)

I tend to prefer female-protag games like this, for much of the same reasons as you've listed. I for one support this direction.

Sky Dreamer

Don't like the idea this beauty is getting fucked by some male NPCs :/ So I just hope there will be more than one lesbian girl to "collect" and also lots of solo scenes :D which I think, is a clear advantage when playing as female MC...

Bizzy79

Let's flip the genders in the examples to see how true the statement is: "Let's say the main character is trying to steal something and the principal catches him red handed. How is he going to resolve the situation? Will he choose to be punished or will he try to bribe the principal with money or sex? You don't get as many different options if your main character is a woman. I don't think you want to see one woman spank another as a punishment, let alone see them fucking. Here's another example. The main character is taking a shower in college after PE. After leaving the shower he finds out someone has decided to prank him and now all of his clothes are in the women's changing room. What is he going to do? Should he go into the women's room naked, feel embarrassed and risk losing his reputation and who knows what else? Or should he wait for a teacher, who could either help him out or use the situation? You don't get this kinds of choices in a game with a female protagonist." so the two things that stick out as not working is the women fucking each other or spanking each other, most guys like that, even women, and the genders matter (two guys is far less desirable). the other big one is a man walking naked into the women's changing room. a guy would be in far more trouble than a woman doing so. so given the situation there is some differences just by what is written, however other options open up with a male protagonist character more so than with a female protagonist character. one would be pregnancy, as a female character that goes full slut and gets pregnant that pretty much means game over, either good ending or bad is open to interpretation, but for a guy it means such far less so. rape is another, as with a female character it is less desirable to be raped, and to rape a male character is also less desirable. so in both cases we have a shift in consequences and general desirability of certain situations. if you stay away from anything distasteful to maximize your audience then a female MC is the desired MC for a sex game (to a lesser degree a male character for a non-sex game).

james steele

"All games with male protagonists can be boiled down to just one formula: you create a perfect alpha-male who fucks everything in his path. That's how they all work, same thing over and over and over again. Simple and predictable." Sure, a vast majority of male protag games are like that but that's because it's what a majority of people want. Having a male lead doesn't automatically make the game a harem collector if you don't write it that way and having the same structure but with a female is no different, but instead of being an "alpha -male" she'd be a "cheating whore". Personally, I don't mind female lead games but I would prefer a male lead since I like playing a straight guy that sleeps with different women. Playing a woman that sleeps with different guys is duller since I only care about the women. And her sleeping with other women isn't the same since lesbian sex doesn't interest me.

TSP

Looking forward to it !

That's a good comment πŸ‘

DS: Haters gonna hate! You have proven that you can make a good quality game, both visual and narrative. I binged the fuck out of BB. And It isn't my kink. I'm In. They can make their own game if they think they know better.

Looks a bit like ann's butt

Threetees

I got commented on f95 for having a hot avatar So Kate has been noticed by non followers.

Threetees

I think this is a very good idea guys, I love it!

An example here I'm going to illustrate how you can write a story with a female MC and STILL please the "alpha male" preferences in games like this is all determined by how you choose to write the game, the story is very important. Okay imagine you are a ghost/poltergeist who NEEDS sexual energy to allow you to stay on this plain of existence (to avoid getting pulled into the afterlife and that being the end/Game Over) so the female MC is a spirit of sorts and has the ability to take possession of both male/female characters (possibly others but that's not allowed anymore), the MC kind of makes things happen by either just watching, participating, possession, corruption or manipulation of objects around the rooms, like switching Tv channels, changing the aura of the room like an aphrodisiac effect and if the game was set in a multi story hotel, the possibilities are endless, as new characters could be introduced, there's also the staff members, maids etc and one small story adjustment could satisfy most niches that people like in here along with some new ones. I mean LOP Team touched on this kind of story with "Sensual Haunting" and that is one of my favourite adult games ever... main point is that the MC doesn't "HAVE" to be a male to be a good one. πŸ‘

female protagonist ruins these types of games a bit, but got to keep an open mind I guess.

IM SO FUCKING HYPED

looks good

not interested but good luck with your game

Lucien

As long as it is third person view, it is about the same

Dada

Dark Silver is right about the lack of writing options for a male character because several of you get pissed off, bitch, and moan when one of the girls has competition from another character. It wasn't just Eric people hated. There was also hate for Kate and Olivia's boyfriend. So, yeah it gets boring when male mc meets girl, has sex with girl, moves on to another girl for his harem.

RKrispy

I think it just boils down to we want to see more booty... not more sausage, if the main character is female your kind of locking yourself into creating many more men characters which as men we really don't wanna see... of course you can have some lesbian scenes, but unless you're making her an actual lesbian you can only do that so much. I kind of steer away from these games personally, I'm fine with the same old scenario over and over again (never gets boring to me). I'll stay in support either way, but I'm not totally sure I would be playing the next game.

Tranquil Chewy

I'm looking forward to seeing more of that butt.

Nathan

Yes cause it was heavily "maxed" FMC... and at that time there where not many games with female main protagonist....

TFU3

I don’t think having a FMC is a big issue. Tomb Raider has a fmc, it still sells. It just how the sex scenes and choices pleases our sexual desire and fantasy. Someone mentioned about Alice as a mc, which shows if a fmc can act like a dominant part in a S&M scene, it is still good.

While I do like playing as a female MC (although ideally, being able to choose between the two would be nice,) the reasoning seems a little off to me. I mean no disrespect, of course, but; A lot of what you're saying regarding limited writing options is blamed on the fact that the main character is male. While it wouldn't surprise me that the whole alpha-male-harem thing is popular, the gender alone does not dictate this. It also would not dictate things such as what choices there are in a game. Granted, it might not be the exact same choices, but having a male MC does not mean everything has to boil down to building a harem of sorts. There is also the matter of male-on-male things not being an "option" supposedly, while homosexual happenings are now an option because of a different gender. Don't get me wrong. I always enjoy playing a female MC, and I look forward to seeing how the game goes, but the reasons for it seem a little invalid to me. I suppose deviating from the "norm" may be a little more tricky, and since there isn't as many games like this around, then there aren't as many popular aspects to tend to. Looking forward to the game, but the reasoning for a female MC seems a little iffy to me.

Quibii Quibson

i am looking forward to it, to many negative comments before a click has even been made.

I'm ready to buy. It is intriguing.

You could have easily have made the MC a guy and going by your example the teacher could have been a female and she is the one getting punished for not giving you good grades or the bathroom example you could be the one who stole the girls clothes and put them in the men's bathroom. I'll continue to follow your page DS but I think this game will fail

M4t7theNinja

When you're playing games like these, you're kinda roleplaying putting yourself in place of the MC and living fantasies and taboo situations you can't in real life, so the Female MC kinda stops you from doing so in a way, at least that's my point of view...I mean its adult sex game it's not you're playing tomb raider or something which your gender doesnt really matter... Still i know you guys have the skill to provide a solid and great looking game for those that game appeals to...

Levent

This has absolutely nothing to do with the mc being a guy, but more with the writing. For example lets take your sower example. The mc notices how a group of guys(or girls) decides to steal the clothes of the female. Now you have multiple choice. 1. Go to the thief, take the clothes and bring them back to the female (romance+), 2. Wait and watch how the female has to go naked. -> Which coud led to 2a) wait again: everyone can see the naked female(exhibitionism+ or reputation-) or 2b) pull the fire alarm, so only you can watch the scene(exhibitionism+). You can do a lot of hot/different scenes with the mc being male.

Max

I've played the Eleanor games myself and I've also played Roommates from the same Dev team and those games do stand out as some of the better titles over the years.

he gender change doesnt affect me. for example my first and third favorite games are eleanor and anna exciting affection. people who dont like female MCs should try them. fapping to the same woman all the time is really nice. however it worked because eleanor and anna are TOP GODDESSES. dream girls. so the game sucess will depend how good kate is and the situations she is gonna be put in.

MastergamerPaul

The comments above are kinda valid points though because no straight man (I know of anyway) are going to go into a game and enjoy looking for a man to have sex with, if it was a lesbian driven story with a choice of loads of girls to choose from then I could understand the appeal, but like I said try before I judge on this... Bit I'm gonna put it on here I'm gonna miss your other project "the one that can't be named" for obvious reasons, but all the best with the new project to yourself and all the team and if I like the new project I'll still support.

Sad that the mc is a girl not gonna play your game

Frankly, that's an issue with writing, not an issue with gender. I mourn the loss of BB, and seriously hope .13 isn't its final death. But I'm looking forward to this, nonetheless!

tsukiouji

If Alice had been the main character in BB, I would have still played the crap out of it. As long as the new MC is sexy hot with natural beauty like Alice, the new gane will be a winner with me.

SomeOldFart

I'm easy to be honest I'm going to try the game see how it is and then see where I go from there

Not even a little bit interested.

I do not think it 's a good idea. it makes sense to check the man as a man. But it is absurd to move a woman according to her fantasies as a man! it will be hard to concentrate on the character.

BK186

I tried female mc before. Unfortunately its not doing it for me. Its time to part our ways. Regardless i wish good luck to your new project and hope continue your success

Elmandore

mine too

Cruel

Like that idea. Only reason I played BB was because its early versions felt like sandbox with meaningful choices. Wish you luck

Ignazzio

The big problem with a female lead for me is immersion. I think most people identify with the mc and as a straight guy it is easy to pretend you are that guy having sex with all those beautiful women. When you play a girl, even if she is dominant it is still β€˜you’ getting screwed by a guy. I do agree you will have more story opportunities, but playing a good girl gone bad kinda game is not for me. Perhaps I will just check your renders for glamour and enjoy those. It’s a shame, I really enjoy BB and hope you will make an update to it once in a while.

Sorry but when I'm playing an adult game to jack off, I'm not really interested in how deep and variable the storyline is. I want a character I can pretend to be and lots of hot girls to mess around with. With a female main character all you get is lesbian sex which is really tame or sex with guys in the game which is creepy when you're role playing a female as a man

I think the problem with having a girl as the main protagonist for many people could be that you have only one girl to "choose from" (the main character) where as for example in your previous game you had 4-5 girls to choose from when you played as a man (i will exclude lesbians choices here as it depends if you like that or not). And everybody has a different taste. If she had a go with 5 different men, it would be still just the main girl and many people maybe dont care who the man is (projecting themselves into his shoes).

RazRazor

Or what you gonna call the patreon censorship police ?

Str Ant

Can't wait to see. It's very intriguing

Str Ant

I just hope there will be NO rape scenes...

Kyreal

I hope u will make a good story but in fact is hard to make a awesome story U know what I mean (in sex story) But if u try to make a character trying to steal the bisnesmen (with old I think is more cool) I think is going to be cool But this is my idea Maybe I'm wrong πŸ˜…


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