The B.E.E. Podcast - 8/16/19 - Anna Khachiyan - SILVER
Added 2019-08-16 21:01:14 +0000 UTCPodcaster Anna Khachiyan and Bret Easton Ellis discuss Once Upon a Time... in Hollywood, admiring Morrissey, the masculine gaze of Rainer Werner Fassbinder and Vanderpump Rules as a crucial sociological document.
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Bret always delivers great opening monologues. This is an interesting overview of the zombie/Manson mini-series from Bret. I wish FOX had made it. This potential 10-parter sounded very promising!
Darren
2024-07-14 15:43:16 +0000 UTChe's a pseudo intellectual pile o' dogshit...you have officially crossed the line into subhuman retardation of the highest order...you and those three people were probably always there 😂😂😂
Neil G.
2024-07-01 09:05:16 +0000 UTCCan she say neo-liberal any more? Even self-help is neo-liberal apparently. Even things that predate neoliberal economics are neo-liberal. Her streaming services are neo-liberal. Not everything that relates to individuals is neo-liberal. Just stop.
Malcolm Jones
2023-01-24 23:11:58 +0000 UTCDry up, crybaby! Morrissey has called out Trump during concerts here in Mexico. We Mexicans LIKE Trump. We don't want a ton of foreigners trying to move here either. But, this is Mexico, so we don't suffer too much from it like the US or Europe. The US is fucked and Europe is on its way. Wake up!
Antonio Primavera
2021-10-19 00:46:56 +0000 UTCThat's an interesting take on the "beating up Bruce Lee" scene. I like it. I did not like the scene before reading this. Thanks! :)
Antonio Primavera
2021-10-19 00:42:12 +0000 UTCThomas Bernhard! Yes! One of the greatest! Peter Handke, too! American "post-modern" really is shit in comparison to the Austrians.
Antonio Primavera
2021-10-19 00:38:46 +0000 UTCFWIW, Leo's Mum is German! Which is why he speaks about of German and visits Germany every now and then. Is second name is Wilhelm! I don't know how Anna would claim he is Russian, maybe just because she really thinks he looks Russian.
Dan Zilic
2021-01-04 13:38:16 +0000 UTCI'm betting it's his millennial socialist boyfriend
Chris Tempel
2020-01-07 22:36:53 +0000 UTCwell aren't you just so superior Peter!
Chris Wright
2019-12-17 13:29:50 +0000 UTCor Alonso Duralde, or Christy Lemire
Chris Wright
2019-11-05 11:43:35 +0000 UTCSurprised by this conversation. It could have even been longer.
Michael MacGowan
2019-08-27 00:52:18 +0000 UTCMy best friend and I each had different takes on the Bruce Lee scene. Neither one of us thought that it belittled Bruce Lee; but, she thinks Brad Pitt's character is recalling a memory. I think Brad Pitt's character is daydreaming. He's on the roof about to fix the antenna and would rather be working on set. He's mulling over the reason that he can't work on set, which seems kind of bullshit to him at the time, kinda goes off on a thought tangent where he kicks Bruce Lee's ass, comes back to reality and accepts the fact that it is probably best he's not on set. If the sequence was a daydream, then it was a tremendous compliment to Bruce Lee, daydreaming of whooping his ass.
James Dardis
2019-08-25 23:16:09 +0000 UTCLet's base the entire podcast on getting offended at people who get offended. Let's keep whipping that straw man until it's well and truly dead.
Ben Ovenden
2019-08-23 02:55:03 +0000 UTCI love Anna, so happy you had her on
Olivia
2019-08-23 01:13:55 +0000 UTChttps://www.dropbox.com/sh/yln8wee9ehqtz86/AABXF0xBhA8n1ZNsjNwFovjYa?dl=0
Oleg
2019-08-22 21:42:11 +0000 UTCThis episode finally addressed Bret’s views on Vanderpump Rules. Thank you Anna for broaching this important topic.
Laura Woods
2019-08-22 13:32:11 +0000 UTCI'm at a childhood friend's house in Villa Bonita, and the conversation is lagging so I mirror the BEE Podcast to the Apple TV from my phone. Immediately, as I listen to the pilot sketch for Bret and Zombie's Manson TV show, I think to myself how much better THAT would have been than the aesthetic failure of Once Upon a Time... Mr Ellis shan't agree with me –– which accounts for one of the joys of aesthetic reality: differing opinions –– but a period piece of that time, coming from two auteurs that really understood the tone of Helter Skelter, would have been much more to my liking. Oh, well. Such is the fate of those of us who rely on others to create art, instead of making it ourselves.
phuq paytch
2019-08-21 18:00:08 +0000 UTCI’d like to know who the audience for The White Crow is and how it could possibly make money.
Mark Cleary
2019-08-21 07:10:52 +0000 UTCI found this guest to be quite boring. No desire to finish the episode.
Peter litvin
2019-08-20 21:08:20 +0000 UTCSide note: Peter Biskind would be great on this pod. He has his own theories on where entertainment is headed (back to movies again) and I'd love to see Bret and Bisk hash it out about that and the 70's.
Billy Vega
2019-08-20 18:31:14 +0000 UTCThaddeus Russell and BEE podcast when?
James_Sobotka
2019-08-20 16:22:36 +0000 UTCReplace it with “what do you think of Morrissey?”
Chuck
2019-08-20 16:20:06 +0000 UTCI just want to note that OUATIH reaffirms the theory that Tarantino and Ellis shared that although this was the dawn of the golden age of cinema a lot of movies were not that good. I think that's the point Tarantino is trying to make by only showing us billboards for things most people never watched. Also, I truly love the juxtaposition of DiCaprio's scene shooting a western and Pitt actually being a classic western hero at Spahn Ranch. There's like a reaffirmation that the thing we think of as westerns is just a creation. We don't really know what people were like in the late 19th century west. Very smart movie and I think listening to BEE prepared me for it.
James_Sobotka
2019-08-20 15:59:22 +0000 UTCI also want to know this. Also, is there a better way to listen to episodes than just patreon. He only has like 20 episodes on podcast apps and they are from 2 years ago.
James_Sobotka
2019-08-20 15:54:59 +0000 UTCThis may be my favorite ever. I wish I could have gone on forever!
Mara Capozzi
2019-08-19 23:04:17 +0000 UTCSo happy Bret brought up the Brody review. I could barely finish reading it due to my eyes rolling so hard.
Michael Gagne
2019-08-19 19:56:04 +0000 UTCBy all means continue to love Morrissey’s music. His recording career has been exceptional, even if the overall quality has dwindled in recent decades. And yes, his reputation for controversy & single-mindedness has always been part of the appeal. But US fans might not appreciate exactly why he’s so out of favour in the UK currently. He isn’t just rubbing people up the wrong way, via trademark quirks of personality. His public support for the Far-Right political party ‘For Britain’ is embarrassing at best. It speaks less of a ‘great intellectual’ - as Anna bizarrely claims of him here - more a narrowing of the imagination. Envisage Michael Stipe suddenly advocating David Duke & the KKK and US readers will get an insight into what we’re dealing with. The group ‘For Britain’s’ overt racism is a contributing factor to the rise in race hate crimes in the U.K. In short, things are getting ugly. Morrissey is, in his own strange way, now complicit with this. It’s not a complete surprise Morrissey has aligned politically with this group. His distrust of non-English natives has always been there, lurking amidst his fetishising of mundane English life. But this is different. His support for ‘For Britain’ is impossible to defend. Of course his position is manna to online SJWs. But it’s also objectionable to people without serious political gears to grind. Morrissey is of course free to say & sing what he likes. But others are free to call him out on idiotic positions & question his motives. Manchester’s favourite melancholy son has screwed up big time here. The Smiths will always be one of the great bands; his solo career will remain compelling. But there are some transgressions even exceptional lyricists don’t get a free pass on.
Kovitch
2019-08-19 11:57:07 +0000 UTCDoes anyone know where I can get mp3/audio for Bret's episode with John Carpenter? Thanks.
Martin O'Connor
2019-08-19 06:59:45 +0000 UTCWe’re still waiting for you to interview Armond White and Bruce La Bruce. Make it happen.
Raf
2019-08-19 05:15:29 +0000 UTCDefinitely keep the Eagles question.
Daniel George Sanchez
2019-08-19 02:04:51 +0000 UTCPlease keep the Eagles question.
Billy Vega
2019-08-18 20:39:41 +0000 UTCI wish my fellow lefties could treat the Bruce Lee fight scene as a catharsis. It's not a far leap to channel that scene where he challenges Trump after blabbering that he could have stopped the Parkland's shooter or any other ridiculous dillusionsal claim. That working class masculinity is what my dogs need
mike contreras
2019-08-18 19:23:41 +0000 UTCyou bet! the back and forth is what it's all about!
Alex Waller
2019-08-18 16:43:50 +0000 UTCFair enough! But c’mon now. Zoë Bell stinks on ice. Appreciate the response! BEE rules.
Brian Rooney
2019-08-18 16:14:12 +0000 UTCHave to disagree, the Bruce Lee scene worked completely and is key to the themes of the rest of the movie. The whole movie is about celebrating the good things people like Rick and Cliff brought to the table which are missing in today's world. One of those things is a no nonsense, salt of the earth toughness that is not flashy but gets the job done. What better way to exhibit this than having Cliff win a fight against Bruce Lee? It also works in the fact that people generally view western stars as Hollywood fakes who have none of the qualities of their characters, but for whatever reason people have completely boughten into the fact that Bruce Lee is actually the characters he plays, and could actually win a fight against like fifty people. Not that Bruce Lee isn't an all time great but it's a reminder he was a Hollywood showman like everybody else.
Alex Waller
2019-08-18 16:10:31 +0000 UTCSpelling mistakes be damned. Patreon on the phone is a bit of headache
Brian Rooney
2019-08-18 15:34:06 +0000 UTC1. Understandable if the Eagles question is retired. But it is a great way to end the show. It is a really neat concept to kind of get a final Rorschach test from a guest by way of a 1970s soft rock band, a group of LA-transplants. Very apropos for Ellis... 2. Great guest, great show 3. The Bruce Lee scene just doesn’t work in general. It’s not funny or interesting. In terms of the chronology of the movie, it was highly emblematic of the crummy Family Guy, non-sequiter style Tarantino now has. Remember Goerbells in Inglorious, that throw away sex scene? Weak sauce, boomer. Weak sauce.
Brian Rooney
2019-08-18 15:27:56 +0000 UTCGreat episode....however....Once Upon a Time....in Hollywood IS Tarantino's best movie and Matt Damon would have absolutely eaten shit as Cliff Booth; and probably sent the movie's popularity into a tailspin because audiences would have associated it with that idiotically smug pseudo-Coen garbage he's been a part of as of late. . Matt McC would have been fine as Booth but I can't picture Wooderson fighting Bruce Lee to a draw or beating the daylights out of hippies....I honestly didn't believe him for a moment in True Detective. Anyway, really enjoyed the episode.
Warren Sikes
2019-08-18 12:23:16 +0000 UTCRe Manson, Tom O’ Neill’s new book ‘Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA and the Secret History of the Sixties’ highly recommended. Lots of new stuff. 20 years in the writing. Bugliosi’s prosecution questioned & legal writs issued. More here: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/jul/07/chaos-charles-manson-cia-secret-history-sixties-tom-oneill-dan-piepenbring-review
Kovitch
2019-08-18 10:20:54 +0000 UTCyou guys gotta record these the monday before releasing. otherwise it’s too much distance from the buzz of a movie and when we hear bret discuss them.
Javier G. Madrigal Jr.
2019-08-17 20:37:39 +0000 UTCLoved seeing the scenes at El Coyote and Casa Vega... need to go home soon
Brooke Clifford Porter
2019-08-17 19:43:07 +0000 UTCSo excited to listen to a podcast marketed as the dirtbag left, and the fatalities in mainstream media! I especially love it because by his own admission Bret loves to watch the news, cares deeply, and is extremely informed! Can’t wait!
Sebastian ospina
2019-08-17 18:18:26 +0000 UTCalso, if you just want pure Morrissey photo aesthetics check out Kevin Cummins new-ish book
Eric Macom
2019-08-17 17:00:21 +0000 UTCjust here to say please don't retire the 'what do you think of the Eagles' question, not at least until someone references The Big Lebowski
David Morgan-Brown
2019-08-17 15:38:51 +0000 UTCRe, OUATIH: If there was anything for woke critics to get huffy about, it was Cliff facing off against the horrific harpies (ex-wife, TV producer): a glaring comment on the current climate.
Michael Walsh
2019-08-17 14:17:16 +0000 UTCIf you have a passion for The Smiths, there is a 600+ page — reads quickly — book called “Morrissey & Marr: The Severed Alliance: Updated & Revised 20th Anniversary Edition” by Johnny Rogan.
James Reeves
2019-08-17 13:19:03 +0000 UTCIn reading Morrissey’s autobio, I believe he claims that Mike Joyce (drummer for The Smiths) - via British courts - was able to seize more than $3 million of Morrissey’s assets. Base player Andy Rourke was unable to take a similar path because he had previously settled with Morrissey and Marr.
James Reeves
2019-08-17 13:13:31 +0000 UTCI enjoyed this. You guys are right on Morrissey and much else.
Sean Reid
2019-08-17 10:01:51 +0000 UTCThe BEE podcast breathes new life into each week for me.
Timo
2019-08-17 04:39:01 +0000 UTCThe Eagles question works well as a way to signal the end of the interview for us listeners at home.
Steve
2019-08-16 23:15:09 +0000 UTCWhat I want to know is how and when Bret became aware of and interested in Anna!
Chris Wright
2019-08-16 21:36:03 +0000 UTCFinally
adam r
2019-08-16 21:20:43 +0000 UTCLegends recognizing legends 💘
Act Bad
2019-08-16 21:04:13 +0000 UTC
