The B.E.E. Podcast - 1/11/19 - Stephan Paternot - SILVER
Added 2019-01-11 19:11:04 +0000 UTCInternet entrepreneur and author Stephan Paternot and Bret Easton Ellis discuss Bird Box, finding closure through writing A Very Public Offering, The Social Network and Escape at Dannemora.
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This conversation is so interesting and good to back to listen to. I would love if Stephan came back on the pod to give his opinion on where we are currently. And how slated is going bc I feel like what he's talking about has contributed negatively to the way films are made now. Also it's crazy to hear Bret doing reviews....what we've lost smh.
Florence
2025-01-21 21:48:51 +0000 UTCThis guest has no vocal setting other than "proclaim."
mortal trash
2021-12-22 22:52:23 +0000 UTCthanks for using a different, non super pixelated pic.
Javier G. Madrigal Jr.
2019-01-30 04:16:15 +0000 UTCEscape At Dammora is as good as Bret was saying - everyone should watch it!!
Sam Willis
2019-01-28 15:30:51 +0000 UTCAll online technology will gradually make us accept a false moral that is enforced upon us by the risk of public shaming/darwinistic defeat. This psychological cleanup will eventually make us accept less and less things and ideas that could offense ANYBODY. When all thinking has shifted, Slate will have it’s moment and Netflix’ Global Cinema will be the new normal.
Jasper
2019-01-25 14:41:40 +0000 UTCAnother well spent 2 bucks. I “like” listening to these Hollywood guys. Hate their hurt vagina take on politics but I like hearing BEE talk shop with them.
Vivian Marran
2019-01-24 08:04:10 +0000 UTCSo, I said to myself, I said, "Steve, take it easy. This guy is just a thought-policing douchebag. Hear him out." But then after thirty more minutes, I said to myself, I said, "Steve, just delete this one. Even Bret doesn't bat a thousand."
Steve Earnhart
2019-01-23 15:28:15 +0000 UTCI enjoyed the pod. Particularly when the subject of Trump came up. Stephan started to peddle more air than Wile E. Coyote. As is typical of most of the left he struggled with even the most gentle of questions when his views were challenged. He seemed on the verge of tears when asked about the Eagles!
Guy Lewis
2019-01-21 18:17:42 +0000 UTCA valiant attempt at mixing it up, but this podcast is at its best when Bret goes head to head with other creatives. Thankfully that’s 99 percent of the time.
Michael MacGowan
2019-01-20 16:38:28 +0000 UTCSurprised by all the hate for this guest. I thought he was great. He sounds like Armie Hammer's Winklevi boys in The Social Network (both literally and figuratively; the no-nonsense well dressed well spoken confidence) and it's a refreshing change to the deluge of "yuknow"s and "like"s and "idunno"s and "for MEEEEE"s and "Ijustfeltlikeee"s and "yuknow"s and "yuknow"s and "yuknow"s you normally get from some of the mushy-brained guests who don't know anything about anything, including their own work! Thumbs up from me. Also, he's hot. Yum.
Stephen O'Flynn
2019-01-19 22:56:43 +0000 UTCGreat monologue, Bret, but fuck that guy, most insufferable fraud that’s ever been on the show.
john m
2019-01-18 22:38:25 +0000 UTC: Programme Bee : ♫ 1. 0:52 - 37:40 Melancholy in the ArcLight, "The Happening" vs "Bird Box" vs "A Quiet Place", "Roma", "Green Book" ♫ 2. 38:11 - 1:16:48 Talk with guest Stephan Paternot (internet, the globe, block chains, social media giants, future of interwebs) ♫ 3. 1:17:24 - 1:49:52 More w/Stephan Paternot (film industry, problems w/agencies, founding and role of Slated) ♫ 4. 1:50:26 - 2:17:30 More w/Stephan Paternot (having a child, tv movies, "Valley of the Boom", 2018 movies, theater vs home movies and viewings) ♫ 5. 2:18:08 - 2:44:20 More w/Stephan Paternot (free speech, politics, Trump, Eagles?, more politics) ♫
Brent Minder
2019-01-17 20:18:13 +0000 UTCGreat monologue this week and Stephan was an excellent guest.
Bazayer
2019-01-16 22:07:31 +0000 UTCGet Frankie ocean on here 🌊 bret the goat
Daniel
2019-01-16 14:44:15 +0000 UTCHalt and Catch Fire was awesome and very underrated indeed, it started pretty good and kept getting better and better. Especially recommended for fans of Mackenzie Davies and Lee Pace.
FlyingWaffle
2019-01-16 14:22:07 +0000 UTCBret was his usual awesome self, but the guest sounded like he wants to be chief of the Thought Police
Darren Ryan
2019-01-16 00:47:42 +0000 UTCWell, I guess I have to disagree with most of the comments because this is was one of my favorite interviews so far. Sure, I didn't agree with a lot of what he said at the end, but he was still an interesting character! And it was a lot of fun listening to the discussion around the internet, social media and entrepreneurship. Now, I was a bit floored, actually I mean really floored that he didn't know that The Eagles sang Hotel California 😁 and wasn't really surprised that he was "disappointed" in people for liking conservative views (this is almost everyone in my social circle, annoying but reality), but who cares? It was still an interesting unfiltered interview and I was very entertained throughout. Also, I definitely agree with one of the earlier comments, Halt & Catch Fire is the show to watch about the early tech world, one of my favorite shows period. And yes, the intro about The Happening was gold. Keep em coming.
Phoenix
2019-01-15 18:58:46 +0000 UTCI have never heard of anything like a cinema usher introducing the film before it begins, saying who's in it, who the director is, and what the film is about. What the hell is wrong with your country?!!
David Morgan-Brown
2019-01-15 18:17:30 +0000 UTC@erik eww lol
Erick
2019-01-15 15:04:20 +0000 UTCI think the pipes are wide and clean ;)
Erik
2019-01-15 13:22:51 +0000 UTCWell that is perfect
Chuck
2019-01-14 18:25:59 +0000 UTC<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjHORRHXtyI" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjHORRHXtyI</a>
FlyingWaffle
2019-01-14 18:07:32 +0000 UTCMaybe I’m just ignorant but I’m also confused as to how using data and analytics isn’t just going to get the same movies made. Aren’t we looking for outliers and authenticity? Not recreating what’s been successful in the past over and over? Isn’t it the ones that take risks the ones that turn out great and turn out bad?
Chuck
2019-01-14 16:45:29 +0000 UTCOnly us woke and civil, highly educated people should shout people down on college campuses
Chuck
2019-01-14 16:31:14 +0000 UTCHe started off very interesting but as he went on about how he can’t even follow someone or be friends with someone he doesn’t agree with politically made me think that’s what he’s trying to do with his company too. Get rid of all movies he doesn’t think are good. So a collective algorithm developed by him doesn’t think a movie will be good, don’t let it get made.. but what if a few people do like it? We won’t know because only movies made by his rules will be made seems to be what he’s trying to do. Just seems like this guy wants to be the purveyor of good movies. That said I still enjoyed the conversation especially about Facebook, Google and Apple.
Chuck
2019-01-14 16:27:25 +0000 UTCthis guy was just... awful
richard owain roberts
2019-01-13 13:05:02 +0000 UTCThis was a great ep. One of the most interesting guests so far.
David
2019-01-13 09:08:19 +0000 UTCThis guy just seemed maybe a lil stupid? Seemed like he was dodging Bret’s question when he just didn’t answer what grade Roma’s screenplay would get on his screenplay score site, but by the second and third time this happened i started to think he was just a lil slow and genuinely didn’t understand what he was being asked.
Gabriel
2019-01-13 06:57:14 +0000 UTCJesus Christ these comments are terrible. So many arrogant, condescending people.
Chris Wright
2019-01-13 04:47:10 +0000 UTCInteresting, eloquent guy! Another great ep, Bret. -Asa, 25, UK
Asa Oliver Skinner
2019-01-13 04:30:16 +0000 UTCSlated sounds like the absolute worst thing that could happen to cinema. Very surprised Bret went along with it.
Parker
2019-01-13 03:29:38 +0000 UTCNot a fan of this guest. Bit of a dullard and the idea of analytics being used for film (as someone that uses them for soccer) is laughable at best and depressing at worst. Best bit of the episode was pre guest
Graeme
2019-01-13 00:56:43 +0000 UTCMaybe it’s his oozing entitlement that’s sending the average woke BEE podcast listener into a rage here, and that just doesn’t annoy me as much ..but I find this guy absolutely fascinating! I mean.. Awkward-as-fuck dot com millionaire born with a silver spoon, and sort of invented social media, but has crazy abandonment issues, and has lived an amazing rise & fall & rise again business story, in tech, in Hollywood, but is kinda self un-aware, but probably super-smart, definitely over therapy-ed, a kind of naive alien disruptor that is just trying to find some sense of self & home on this planet ... And I’m only half way through listening. I still don’t know what he thinks of The Eagles. He might be jerk but this cat is fuuuuucking interesting!
Ant
2019-01-12 23:17:42 +0000 UTCOne of the worst guest - ever. Refers to himself as a cinephile, yet had no idea 3 (technically 4) previous versions of A Star is Born existed. That is not a cinephile. The pompous declaration near the end referring to only educated people having valid opinions, political or otherwise...it is this attitude that led to election of Donald Trump! Gee...thanks.
Richard Luna
2019-01-12 19:11:41 +0000 UTCI’m with you, this is also literally the first one I’ve bailed on early. Well I did on the reader question one too but I don’t count that one. I’ve heard it all before, he just sounds like a producers sales rep circa 1998 (Michael Keaton? That’s worth $100 grand in Italy, etc) with a new gimmick which is roping suckers with dreams onto his site which looks just like the other sham ‘have your script analyzed by REAL Hollywood script readers!’ (woo hoo) sites, with the same coverage tick boxes used by readers since the 80’s. But what do I know, he’s rich I’m not.
MikeE
2019-01-12 18:25:46 +0000 UTCI really liked this interview. A tech entrepreneur's perspective on film can be painful to listen to. They often talk about it in a clinical, dispassionate way; the direct opposite style to Bret's passionate approach I find so appealing. Yet it’s important to hear what they have to say, since their creations shape the art we love so much. Paternot struck a balance between the two styles. I’m intrigued to see how his vision of the film industry plays out. His touch of TDS was amusing too. Bret/Adam - I’d love to hear a conversation between Bret and the cartoonist/writer Scott Adams. I have a feeling you may share his worldview about the political climate more than you’re letting on. Like Paternot, he walks the line between the businesslike/aristic approach.
Alex Kazam
2019-01-12 15:10:51 +0000 UTCMost movies, let's face it, are crap. If Slated only offers a more efficient process, I can't see that it is much of an improvement. Also, while the big screen is essential for some movies (even if, like me, you're not a fan of the communal experience) streaming video is pretty much the only way to see the many superior foreign films out there. I only wish Netflix or Amazon were brave enough to screen more of them. One refreshing thing about them is their freedom from Hollywood's neo-Puritan obsessions. I refuse to be preached at. Mr. Paternot's stuffy high church moral indignation marks him as an unreliable ally of personal or artistic freedom.
Michael Walsh
2019-01-12 13:30:39 +0000 UTCThis guy has a terrible habit of presenting utter banalities as if they are something insightful. Insufferable. And I have listened to 100% of Bret's podcasts so far. I had to stop this one. Halt and Catch Fire is the best tv show so far about the early days of the web. The show is centered on the PC revolution days primarily in the 80s. It ends in the early web days, pre dot-com boom. The show has surprisingly great music selections. Beloved by techies for generally getting the tech stuff right.
BUtterfield8
2019-01-12 05:12:14 +0000 UTCThis guy sounds like another Hollywood huckster using ‘analytics’, Ryan Kavanaugh 2.0. It is simply too hostile to such an approach.
MikeE
2019-01-12 00:45:04 +0000 UTCThe bird box narrative structure gave away any chance of a mystery upfront.
Christopher Neu
2019-01-11 21:52:01 +0000 UTCvery sorry to hear you were the only one in the theater for The Happening. when i saw it, most of the audience was laughing.
C
2019-01-11 21:07:35 +0000 UTCThe opening scene Bret describes, 2008 solitary viewer of The Happening made my face hurt with laughter. Btw does Bret have Tibetan monk circular breathing skills? Or maybe he leaned to play the didgeridoo from Australian aboriginese? I think he has an aquarium pump hooked up to his lungs, he never takes a breath lol, love it!!
Erick
2019-01-11 19:42:06 +0000 UTC
