The B.E.E. Podcast - 10/5/18 - Ottessa Moshfegh - SILVER
Added 2018-10-05 19:03:08 +0000 UTCNovelist Ottessa Moshfegh and Bret Easton Ellis discuss book tours, My Year of Rest and Relaxation, working for Jean Stein and gaining an absurdist worldview from enduring physical hardship.
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Dis my favorite fucking interview you've done. Listened to it 4 times already God damnit.
Chase
2018-11-20 12:32:26 +0000 UTCOnce in a blue moon you hear elements of straightness in Bret's vocabulary. He said Samantha Bee was 'lovely' earlier this season and a few years back he definitely had a little thing for Carrie Brownstein, who I also find lowkey ridiculously adorable. She's just a delight, very aware, very sagacious, and total pleasure to engage with.
Chris Wright
2018-11-10 21:49:57 +0000 UTCYeah the way he pours vanilla on what happened to Christine Blasey Ford is really off. I love Bret but sometimes I think he wishes he was born a straight frat boy.
Michael MacGowan
2018-11-10 21:31:44 +0000 UTCCan’t wait for Bret’s new book. Really enjoyed listening to the excerpt.
Iain
2018-10-27 07:51:10 +0000 UTCLoved this one. I’d never heard of Otessa before this podcast. Just ordered a copy of My Year Of Rest And Relaxation.
Iain
2018-10-27 07:47:05 +0000 UTCThis is my least favorite interview. Ottessa Moshfegh is gruff, depressing, and detached. She has no chemistry with Bret. The BEST part was Bret reading from his new book! Looking forward to the next episode.
Gloie
2018-10-26 21:04:22 +0000 UTCHas anyone here read " Homesick For Another World"..? So far every book Bret suggested or posted was great. Comments on this one?
Următor Ex Poliție
2018-10-26 07:51:42 +0000 UTCTed's response is my favorite so far.
Sb
2018-10-25 21:24:05 +0000 UTCStop listening then, SB. Fucking moron.
Joe 35
2018-10-25 21:14:23 +0000 UTCTo BEE or not To BEE, I wish you guys would include indexes in the show notes along with the music that plays in between each segue. Here's an example. ♫ 0 - 1:25 "Out in the Storm" (Waxahatchee) 1. 1:25 - 27:33 Review of "Custody" ♫ 27:33 - 28:32 "After the Lights Go Out" (The Walker Brothers) 2. 28:32 - 39:30 Reading of an excerpt of "White" ♫ 39:30 - 41:25 continued music + "Hate To See You Like This" (Fountains of Wayne) 3. 41:25 - 1:18:54 Interview with novelist Ottessa Moshfegh (1 of 2) ♫ 1:18:54 - 1:19:43 continued music 4. 1:19:43 - 2:05:46 Interview with novelist Ottessa Moshfegh (2 of 2) ♫ 2:05:46 - 2:06:22 continued: "After the Lights Go Out" (The Walker Brothers) Love the show!
Brent Minder
2018-10-16 13:01:17 +0000 UTCyou're complaining that she's _not_ obnoxious? get your story straight homie
Chris Wright
2018-10-10 11:29:08 +0000 UTCso what does Sb stand for? Silly bitch?
Chris Wright
2018-10-10 11:27:25 +0000 UTCNo doubt
Chuck
2018-10-10 01:00:48 +0000 UTCAnd finally.. (pause) do you like the eagles
Chuck
2018-10-10 00:59:55 +0000 UTCNever heard of her but I really enjoyed the interview and am going to read one of her books.
Chuck
2018-10-10 00:59:34 +0000 UTCI ordered her book Eileen and will read that first. So excited to read it. You have introduced me to some great writers! I love your podcast!
Kitten Holiday
2018-10-09 18:01:22 +0000 UTCThanks again for an amazing interview! Just ordered Eileen and Homesick For Another World and cant wait to read them. Still loving The Eagles question :)
David Wasnak
2018-10-09 16:42:22 +0000 UTCugh... she's not obnoxious in a provocative or interesting way.
Chadwick Hartwell, III
2018-10-08 18:04:02 +0000 UTC*Bret talks about current, relevant issues in our culture* "You sound like a broken record"
Joey
2018-10-08 16:23:54 +0000 UTCwhat a silly facile thing to say Leo. I don't give very many fucks about Bret's personal life, it's revealing the full unadulterated truth on important issues of the day like Supreme Court appointments that concerns me. But you already knew that, you just had to be a wiseguy.
Chris Wright
2018-10-08 05:42:26 +0000 UTC(And I think Chris Wright is the secret female stalker from 2001)
Léo S.
2018-10-07 22:28:40 +0000 UTCCan't wait to read "White" ! I'm just afraid it won't feel very new to the podcast listeners.... The extract was great though.
Léo S.
2018-10-07 22:27:09 +0000 UTCThis podcast is just turning into an audition for Breitbart's art and entertainment section. The discussion at the beginning about Custody was great. But then Bret used it to segue into another redundant diatribe with his qualms with Me Too and PC culture. It's become a broken record.
Sb
2018-10-07 21:21:00 +0000 UTCIf you read it aloud you'd like it a lot more, I wrote with an ear for sound, how the words flow together. Partially inspired by this very podcast of course.
Chris Wright
2018-10-07 21:12:26 +0000 UTCChris 'Verbosity' Wright
Romeo Delta Charlie
2018-10-07 20:05:05 +0000 UTCOnly a dollar fifty. This shit is a fucking bargain. Terrific.
Thomas Davidson
2018-10-07 04:46:36 +0000 UTCI have never, ever heard Bret get as angry as he did, and curse as much as he did, than at the 20-minute mark talking about Brett Kavanaugh. I think the reason being is that he knows that he's wrong. He's really just angry at himself for being in the wrong, but he painted himself into a corner on this one so all he can do is rage impotently and hope that the forcefulness of his expression will overpower the listener's better judgement and you will take his word on this one. And really, if you paid even a little attention to the hearings and still think that Kavanaugh would make a good Supreme Court judge, then you're clearly unmoored from reality, from ethics, from empathy, and have absolutely no understanding of jurisprudence, no sympathy for women, and no repulsion towards the more vile spectrum of drunk frat boy horseshit, which, dare I suggest, might be the position one would take if you yourself are somewhat of a vile male with sleazy intentions, at least some of the time. Don't get me wrong, I love Bret, but there's some unexamined baggage somewhere in his soul that puts him more on the side of an Immortan Joe than a Furiosa, and why he didn't respond to Fury Road with more zeal and enthusiasm than he did. Bret's a bit of a worn-out, tired, overweight older man and really isn't interested in brave attempts to reshape the world through radical activism and fighting the power. Safely ensconced within his palatial Hollywood condo overlooking North Doheny drive, Bret just wants you to keep ponying up for the podcast so he can build up that nice nest egg and keep paying the bills so that his much younger boyfriend doesn't leave him for someone with more of a backbone. I'm sorry Bret, but I'm not going to pull my punches when you're going to act of like Brett Kavanaugh of all people was being treated unfairly. Maybe it's just because they share the same first name that's there's an automatic tendency to side with him. Maybe he's just going with a trolling counter-narrative because sticking with the right and proper party line is just so overplayed and obvious and adds nothing to the conversation. Yeah, let's go with that. It's far more interesting to play the provocateur than to stick with obvious truths about right and wrong.
Chris Wright
2018-10-06 16:56:19 +0000 UTCI don't know for sure if the producer(s) read the comments/suggestions written here but I've got one i'd like to put forward: is it possible for Mr. Ellis to focus a portion of the interview to movie talk and not just the first half? I would've liked to hear more of this guests opinions on cinema.
Sebastian Mittelman
2018-10-06 12:04:40 +0000 UTCIn response to the first point Bret makes in this podcast: the thing about a Rotten Tomatoes score is that it broadly reflects the question of whether a movie succeeded in doing what it set out to, or whether it was a clunking hamfisted failure. It does not and cannot address the question of 'should you be interested in this movie'. Woke social justice warriors are liable to applaud a Moonlight or Spotlight or Get Out or Black Panther for ideological reasons, fight-the-power reasons. Since most movie critics are sniveling patsies they'll just knuckle under and cater to the latest narrative and give these sorts of movies an absurdly high score because they think that makes them a woke person, alert to the grave injustices going on all around us that this movie is trying to fight. But in the end, if you don't want to see a movie about guys hooking up with other guys, you're going to stay away from Moonlight, from Call Me By Your Name. I'm sure these are artfully made films, but if the subject matter is not up my alley, then no thanks. I'll catch it when it comes on cable in four years. So in conclusion, don't go to see a movie because it has a high RT score. Go if first of all, the trailer excited you, the material is to your taste, and then maybe see if the consensus view says that yes, the movie works, yes, it coheres into a satisfying experience. For me, I don't need a critic to tell me that I need to see Mad Max Fury Road or Blade Runner 2049, I'm there no matter what the professionals say. The trailers and teasers have sold me long ago. And if I'm on the fence, if it looks like a maybe, then I'll check with What the Flick?!, with Christy Lemire and Alonso Duralde, and see what they had to say. The best part of their show is that it's a back-and-forth, a conversation, so they have to field counter-points to the things they say, they hold each other to account. And then there's Bret of course, since as a wise Pisces he's always got enormously interesting things to say, unusual angles to cover, especially on the topic of why this movie exists in the cultural moment, the potential myopia of the director, or how a studio may have corrupted artistic vision because of market pressures or dunderheaded ideas about what a good movie looks like, e.g. adding voice-over narration to the original cut of Blade Runner, a hideous botch job only fully rectified 25 years later by Ridley Scott with The Final Cut.
Chris Wright
2018-10-06 02:42:01 +0000 UTCHeld out as long as I could but having my two favorite novelists back to back on as guests had me finally offering up the $1.50. I’ll go back and listen to all the other eps. You work is priceless. Can’t wait for the new book!
Matt Brown
2018-10-06 02:30:41 +0000 UTCEaston Ellis; the alliteration reads more like a double-barrelled surname and sounds great! Gave Bret an American exoticism and allure here in Britain.
Romeo Delta Charlie
2018-10-05 23:19:25 +0000 UTCGreat one. Checking out her books.
Ian Patrick Mendes
2018-10-05 22:05:35 +0000 UTC
