[PUBLIC EPISODE] The Wizard, the Witch and the Wild One: ep043 "Speak With Animals"
Added 2025-02-25 14:05:51 +0000 UTC
The road is a door, and it beckons wide and open. Turns out, you can, in fact, get there from here. If there is a town, a bag, the throat of the ravening beast, the back room of a humble butcher's shop, your end at the bottom of the mighty Lydwyn. Towns are like Empires, they are made of people and promises. Roads are like graves, they are made of dirt and the space you fill. And along the road, like pallbearers: wild, wild things.
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Comments
Remind me who is Jasper?
Emma Runswick
2025-04-21 21:01:16 +0000 UTCI'm in love with the music AND the stings sometimes make me think of the west wing for some reason and it's VERY DISTRACTING
Kate H.
2025-04-09 18:32:15 +0000 UTCThis episode is where I shouted “Oh Shit” the most times and in the most variety of tones to date while listening to this podcast. BANGER OF AN EPISODE!!!
Jessica
2025-04-04 18:00:31 +0000 UTCThis is my first comment on any Patreon ever bc OH. MY. GOD. WHAT THE HECK. WHAT THE HECK.
Sofia marcelli
2025-03-25 03:01:28 +0000 UTCI believed Gramore (sp?), but yes!
Sil
2025-03-13 01:46:47 +0000 UTCMy housemate has been my best friend for the last 12 years, housemate for the last 10, and we've both made the promise to warn the other of loudness (if needed while stimming), but he now just knows Wednesday mornings are drop day and I'll likely be laugh/ scream/ crying and clicking my fingers with my earbuds in/ seemingly nothing 😂 and I've put a reminder in our shared calendar of episode weeks (which are traditionally the louder ones)
Sil
2025-03-13 01:45:58 +0000 UTCDamn even my media studies ass didn't pick this one
Sil
2025-03-13 01:41:06 +0000 UTCHOLY SHIT. A deeply instinctual, animal sound of fired up manic relief/joy/adrenaline came out if me in those last two sentences from Eioghorain and Suvi HOLY SHIT ahhhhhhhhh
Gill
2025-03-11 22:27:17 +0000 UTCYES
Gill
2025-03-11 22:21:38 +0000 UTCAnyone else already deeply excited and anxious about the upcoming episode??
Joanna Szabo
2025-03-11 01:52:22 +0000 UTCRe-listening to old episode. Abria does an amazing job but so glad we no longer have to hear from “sanctimonious Suivi” and her weilding“rationalization” against her friends. Great foil to the other characters but honestly would not want to hang out or be “true friends” with Suivi until this episode
David Giannetti
2025-03-09 04:35:09 +0000 UTCSammmmmeeeeee
Adrianna Veloz
2025-03-08 21:59:49 +0000 UTCAbout to go down the same thing
Adrianna Veloz
2025-03-08 21:49:12 +0000 UTCSAME
Adrianna Veloz
2025-03-08 21:41:15 +0000 UTCI’ve been saving these past 2 eps for when I felt better (stomach flu sucks) and now idk how yall who kept up in time have handled the wait bc I don’t think I can wait till Tuesday
Julia Thompson
2025-03-08 05:54:46 +0000 UTCYES
Deborah
2025-03-08 02:12:53 +0000 UTC!!!!!!!!!!
lxwles
2025-03-06 21:06:17 +0000 UTCI don’t know about that. I think the initial interaction with Suvi and Steel at Grandmother Wren’s cottage is foreshadowing a far more complex aspect of their whole plot, and I don’t think that Steel’s character could have raised Suvi with those deaths *by her hand specifically* on her conscience.
Kelsey Killoran
2025-03-06 21:03:40 +0000 UTCOh, 100%
Kelsey Killoran
2025-03-06 21:01:14 +0000 UTCSAME
Kelsey Killoran
2025-03-06 21:00:58 +0000 UTCThere’s a truth hidden in all tropes, and boy oh boy are we feeling some truth in this Podcast. The tropes are bound to follow the truth in ways that feel utterly natural ✨
Kelsey Killoran
2025-03-06 20:58:42 +0000 UTCME TOOOOOO
Kelsey Killoran
2025-03-06 20:57:54 +0000 UTCI don’t usually comment but HOLY CRAP this episode was INCREDIBLE
Kelsey Killoran
2025-03-06 20:56:56 +0000 UTCSaaaaaame
Kelsey Killoran
2025-03-06 20:56:21 +0000 UTCIt gives me goosebumps every time I listen to it. SO GOOD!
Kenn Murphy
2025-03-06 15:28:25 +0000 UTCNEVER BEEN SO VINDICATEDDDD I KNEW THAT MF WASNT A STONE COLD PAPPY KILLER
yusuf
2025-03-06 05:21:30 +0000 UTCRIOT
Cur
2025-03-06 03:46:34 +0000 UTCSame.
Carrie Mook Bridgman
2025-03-06 03:11:21 +0000 UTCA big break, actually. I hope it isn't two years' worth of break while they do the space adventure. If Brennan ends on a major cliffhanger and then says, "See you in a couple of years," I will riot.
Carrie Mook Bridgman
2025-03-06 03:06:15 +0000 UTCI have listened to the last chunk of this multiple times in the last few days because it hits so damn hard.
Reid Bathgate
2025-03-05 22:56:42 +0000 UTCSAME! I have been savoring it for a while and trying not to binge so that I have had something to look forward to but I just caught up. Now im excited to join in on the comments!
Clint Shook
2025-03-05 17:15:22 +0000 UTCVindication!
Johnathan Arriola
2025-03-05 03:00:21 +0000 UTClet it be known that the ending moment of Suvi's "yes" and the horns was also the time I burst into tears in a Taco Bell in Delaware
Lucas Nguyen
2025-03-04 22:11:21 +0000 UTCY’ALL HAD ME STIMMING IN PUBLIC THE EPISODE IS THAT. GOOD. I am in awe of this story and you all for making it. Thank you so much
Anouk
2025-03-04 12:35:03 +0000 UTCHad to physically restrain myself from screaming on the train
Emma Jones-Phillipson
2025-03-04 07:51:51 +0000 UTCWell welcome to the Patreon ya goof! I hear that for just five bucks a month you can get quality...
Tom Flynn
2025-03-04 05:28:28 +0000 UTCHOLY FUCK! WHAT AN EPISODE! Like other's I'm seeing in here, I don't usually come in to comment but I absolutely had to give you guys the props you deserve on this one. Can't wait to hear the fireside for this.
Ben Rohrbaugh
2025-03-04 00:55:11 +0000 UTCThis was the week I caught up with the podcast. What a great week to do so.
Josh Grey
2025-03-04 00:37:10 +0000 UTCYES! I feel validated lmfao
Erin Hopkins
2025-03-04 00:35:05 +0000 UTCMy voice has still not recovered from SCREAMING SO LOUDLY at the reveal and then SCREAMING SO LOULDY at the last 4 words and that was 3 days ago
Erin Hopkins
2025-03-04 00:32:31 +0000 UTCNah I think (hope) keen will take the fall for sending her off carelessly. Or they will assume ambush and double down on gauthmie being the enemy (sp?). Suvi still has legacy that I think would protect her even with all that she’s done to go her own way. Big daddy steel and silence will want to deal with her in house.
Olive 🌲🇵🇸
2025-03-04 00:27:16 +0000 UTCAh SHAPES AND FORMS
Olive 🌲🇵🇸
2025-03-03 23:55:57 +0000 UTCMy first time commenting on the Patreon: to answer your question, this is the first time I’m drawing this parallel. The tropes are inescapable! The forms!!! THE FORMS!!! THEY’RE EVERYWHERE!!!!
Brennan Mulligan
2025-03-03 22:40:24 +0000 UTCliterally my heart might never slow down
Deyla
2025-03-03 19:24:06 +0000 UTCi NEVER come here to comment but OH. MY. GOD??? i was practically screaming constantly for the whole last half hour. i don’t know if i can cope with the wait. I AM SO FUCKING EXCITED
Deyla
2025-03-03 19:23:17 +0000 UTCSPOILERS Suvi speaking and laughing with Yoren of all people definitely was NOT on my WWW bingo card!
Alexander
2025-03-03 18:31:28 +0000 UTCI'm assuming it is similar kinds of magic: that of shapechangers, which is probably closely related to that of witches. I'm working under the theory that one of the witches (or The Stranger) put that curse on Ame to prevent/procrastinate her station being taken.
Chantalleke
2025-03-03 16:17:07 +0000 UTCShe even did the careful thing sending in The Fox. Ame wasn't dumb, Keen is just smart and horrible.
GrumpyTrees
2025-03-03 16:00:54 +0000 UTCBrennan, thank you for the Wizard Keen. I love hating Keen. Keen is a bastard. "I don't like how you don't give me what I want" is such a loathsome sentence. He is perfect and I hate him. Thank you. Also damn Taylor, perfect end music.
GrumpyTrees
2025-03-03 15:55:17 +0000 UTCFrom the Wizard Solace: Was the imagery of Baptism, and dragging Suvi underwater - rising into a new life, the old her dead, intentional? Or are the tropes just inescapable?
Tom Flynn
2025-03-03 09:56:50 +0000 UTCWhether it's D20 or WBN, if the people love the animal familiar, Brennan will try to kill it. RIP and justice for Peppermint Preston....
Alicia
2025-03-03 06:21:22 +0000 UTCOmg this. I flipped out.
Alicia
2025-03-03 06:15:05 +0000 UTCI'M THIRTY-FIVE MINUTES IN AND HAD TO COME HERE AND BE LOUD THAT IS ALL
lxwles
2025-03-03 01:48:02 +0000 UTCher methods of manipulation fit with the citadel’s modus operandi of having a monopoly on the spread and control of information.
irisilmaril
2025-03-03 01:33:42 +0000 UTCSuch a fantastic episode! One little loose end I’d like some info on before we get to comfortable with Yorin (sp) is an answer to why Ame’s curse had the same scent that Suvj associated with him.
Melissa Anderson
2025-03-02 23:44:01 +0000 UTCSo glad I saw the most recent Um Actually so I can understand this reference. Learning!
Melissa Anderson
2025-03-02 23:41:04 +0000 UTCFWIW, I don’t think it’s the last we’ll see of WWW, just a little break.
Melissa Anderson
2025-03-02 23:31:10 +0000 UTCHoly fucking shit.
Aurus
2025-03-02 17:50:35 +0000 UTCI appreciate how important language is in this epic. (That said, forgive my loose quotes in the remainder of this comment 🤦♀️) "... I'll keep them on ice..." - Guild Mage Pain That is Steel's favorite phrase... It made me yell out loud at work. Brennan's use of "the animal" instead of "the fox" felt like it could mean a severance of Ame's connection to fox, rather than them being put in mute. Pain's use of "this creature" to refer to Ame and "put that bear on a leash" feels like more examples of the racism in this world. (Witch is a class but I don't think people in the setting see it that way. Witches are so infused with magic that I'm sure they're seen as "other" in a way that may or may not recognize their humanity.) For me personally, the clarification that Pain would be perfectly comfortable having the soldiers club Ame down in a public square and attack others that may intervene made me remember a scene from a book by Gabriel Garcia Marquez in which the banana company committed mass homicide in a public square. For some reason, THAT is what told me how serious that moment was, rather than it being "just another" DnD fight. Vandal is the embodiment of the analgesic effect of profanity and I love him so much for it. Has Brennan specified how "Steel" is spelled? I've been assuming it was like the metal, because of her sword, but I just realized I don't actually know. Lastly, that moment when Your-in (sorry) tells Suvi that she's alive and has the ability to fight felt like it was directed to those of us in the USA who are burning out but still alive. EDIT: i cannot keep Keen and Pain straight and that doesn't even make sense.
Bean Planter
2025-03-02 17:45:32 +0000 UTCPrediction for WWW since we know they're moving to a different setting: we'll finish with Suvi and the gang officially disconnecting from the citadel and the big war within Ruv and the empire officially starts. Then if they were ever wanting to come back it'll be a time skip;)
I Davis
2025-03-02 16:02:28 +0000 UTCThat final blast of music after the “Yes”…tingles…all over!
Neil Alton
2025-03-02 14:55:05 +0000 UTCI figured out how to submit a question after I posted this 😅
HaliCait
2025-03-02 11:25:46 +0000 UTCSimply sensational storytelling xxx
Joanne Moody
2025-03-02 11:13:39 +0000 UTCYup. Me too. Plus i was jogging out in public when I yelled and started laughing 😆
Joanne Moody
2025-03-02 11:13:22 +0000 UTCAlways solidarity by the fireside! 💛✨️
Benny Bee
2025-03-02 09:34:58 +0000 UTCI thought the same thing
Puppymaster
2025-03-02 07:46:53 +0000 UTCI think that’s a valid interpretation but it can also extend to many marginalized groups.
Mubeen Khan
2025-03-02 03:35:38 +0000 UTCShapechangers are a metaphor for NB and trans ppls and the raid on twelve brooks is a metaphor for protecting trans kids, anyone else getting that or just me?
Esther Moss
2025-03-02 03:09:23 +0000 UTCI'm not upset that she did her duty. I'm upset that she had the fox sing out loud.
Cur
2025-03-02 02:54:10 +0000 UTCI will back you up if you promise not to permanently damage his voice box. The fox does not deserve this. He's just a little guy and he rolled great! Ame did him so dirty knowing the singing would draw attention, honestly.
Cur
2025-03-02 02:53:01 +0000 UTCI thought Suvi's amulet glowed blue. I think it might be different magic. Maybe something to do with the iron. (He is bound, how is he bound? But the scent of bile and pain scream "bound against his will" to me)
Cur
2025-03-02 02:51:20 +0000 UTCTHIS. I NEED ANSWERS.
Cur
2025-03-02 02:48:31 +0000 UTCI don't know if I can handle this being the last WWW season honestly. It's kinda the glue holding my sanity together given [vague gesture at everything].
Cur
2025-03-02 02:48:06 +0000 UTCYeah that speech hit HARD
Cur
2025-03-02 02:46:49 +0000 UTCYeah, I thought the snake was hakea at least for a second
Jayden Hurst
2025-03-01 23:34:08 +0000 UTCThe screaming at about 1hr 2min was 100% me through this whole episode OMG
Pat & Heather
2025-03-01 21:26:08 +0000 UTCNeed a Man in Black Sticker
Joelle A Godfrey
2025-03-01 20:35:25 +0000 UTCAnd my axe
Danielle St John
2025-03-01 16:08:07 +0000 UTCThank god I'm the only one home right now or everyone would be concerned about the non-stop screaming that I've been doing. I haven't been able to stop pacing and stimming for the last 10 minutes after finishing. Such a good ep!
Madeline Weyer
2025-03-01 15:07:05 +0000 UTCSpoiler spoiler spoiler Idk how questions get into the fireside but here goes…. Brennan how does it feel to get to give the same energy as the story you told about the party that made a bunch of con checks to escape the wyvern? 😂
tonytoestep
2025-03-01 11:53:40 +0000 UTCGenuinely one of the most breathtaking and incredible performances and story telling I have every heard. My dog is concerned after all my gasping and screaming but fuck. FUCK it was amazing
Jessica Franklin
2025-03-01 11:07:21 +0000 UTCYour right my brain is not a fan 😂
Jerrome Lovelock
2025-03-01 09:27:57 +0000 UTCI don't think there's a world where Steel didn't kill Suvis parents
Jayden Hurst
2025-03-01 07:39:28 +0000 UTCDid anyone else think all the animals in the water were Hakea at first? Especially with the huge snake grabbing Suvi, I was sure it was her familiar.
Kathryn Gleaves
2025-03-01 03:50:43 +0000 UTCHow Aabria is able to emote rage, grief, pain, resolve, determination and 40 other emotions into one final word... Incredible. (Those aren't tears, it's just eye sweat...)
Karen
2025-03-01 03:24:08 +0000 UTCIncredible episode. Loooooooved that deep brass on a certain call for initiative. Was the reveal at the end something Brennan has been holding onto since E1 of the Children's Adventure? Absolutely flabbergasted.
The Wizard Saison
2025-03-01 02:29:03 +0000 UTCYes
K C
2025-03-01 01:37:15 +0000 UTCThis episode was WILD. I never screamed so much. I don’t know if Keen is my terrible ex husband or just creepy but surprise HOT EIOGJORAIN. Time to defect and get a partner who can turn themselves into an octopus
K C
2025-03-01 01:36:22 +0000 UTCAAAAAHHHHH! My dog is concerned and I probably woke the neighbors. Such an amazing episode!!!! Episode spoilers below: I was blown away by the storytelling here, like the comparison between Soft and Stone not being able to be there for Suvi because of, probably optimism, and maybe the Citadel's betrayal (please don't let mama Steele be evil) and Eioghorain, the parental figure who is still here for Suvi because he understands how to survive this shitty reality. It's also not lost on me that even if Eioghorain believes everything he said, that doesn't mean it's the whole truth, and he is definitely leaving some stuff out! I can't wait for more!!!
PaperPanda
2025-03-01 01:22:06 +0000 UTCOmg how is this alliance about to swing the incoming war of the Witches?!
Amelia Tedesco
2025-03-01 00:20:59 +0000 UTCLiterally whisper screaming on my apartment balcony listening to this!!!!!!!!! That last scene?! GAME. CHANGER.
Megs
2025-03-01 00:07:12 +0000 UTCI also think part of Suvi getting grace is that she warned her friends of what she did and what the consequences would be. So nobody was shocked or surprised that there was an imperial presence for them or that people were looking out for her because she told them about the situation. Ame, however, decided to do something incredibly risky, even with the warning and understanding of the situation beforehand. Her reaction didn’t come from emotional vulnerability in a long-term relationship with someone. It came from impulsivity, a flawed and/or one-dimensional sense of duty, and a feeling of invincibility because of being a witch. And like you just said, this isn’t the first time she’s done something like this. She did this in the North Pole with the wand, she did this in the citadel when she escaped, she did this in Port Talon with Nuram, she did this with Will Gallows, etc. Suvi has one moment of doing something unnecessarily risky while Ame has so many of these moments, it’s kinda hard to keep track.
Puppymaster
2025-02-28 23:18:45 +0000 UTCI am worried that the “gift” will end up being Suvi or Task
Puppymaster
2025-02-28 22:59:13 +0000 UTCI am SCREAMINGAAAAAAAAA
Nic Stull
2025-02-28 22:51:20 +0000 UTCShut up!!
Renée Reynolds
2025-02-28 22:25:20 +0000 UTCHOW DARE
Renée Reynolds
2025-02-28 22:22:56 +0000 UTCSCREAMING CRYING THROWING UP OMG THAT ENDING
Rahne
2025-02-28 22:01:32 +0000 UTCThis episode had me SCREAMING
Brianna LaBelle
2025-02-28 21:55:07 +0000 UTCfull out loud screaming and hollering throughout this episode holy SHIT also literal trojan horses lmao
Arbor Hoff
2025-02-28 20:51:36 +0000 UTCThey can't just do that
lil guy
2025-02-28 20:00:22 +0000 UTCyou get me
Renee Korgood
2025-02-28 19:59:27 +0000 UTCTo 4): You put into words what I've been feeling about that theory so well, this is the path I think is at least as likely as her being full-blooded evil(tm), because it just doesn't fit with the genuine care and love she has shown our characters and the world (e.g. naram). I think that she is convinced she's a good guy and can change the system from within that there's "too much good to throw it all away" inthe citadel -- which I think is likely bullshit but a much more nuanced position and emotional complexity than just "I lied to you your whole life and actually killed your parents" 😂 but it's all just speculation and I cannot wait to find out the truth of this brilliant fucking story--it's going to give us all emotional whiplash no matter what it is I'm certain 😂😂🥰
Melina
2025-02-28 19:19:55 +0000 UTCThe way I replayed this episode for that Aabria nat 20
GenderAnarchist
2025-02-28 18:51:49 +0000 UTCTook this quote from the episode at 1:15:30 “…and learned that the league of whispers was acknowledged and accommodated by the leadership of the citadel. No rot, no cabal, just another name for another compartment for another task.” So what was supposed to be a secret to citadel leadership was actually being run by them from the get go, hence Suvi wanting to know if it’s true and why her parents wanted to separate from the league of whispers after that I believe.
elw48
2025-02-28 18:47:19 +0000 UTCMind blown with the acting and storytelling on display here. Also I 100% needed Eioghorain’s “bad world speech”. Man was this timely
Jim DeSanto
2025-02-28 17:13:15 +0000 UTCShe won't have that, because she didn't ask the library for it, and Eioghorain wasn't there.
Carrie Mook Bridgman
2025-02-28 15:49:35 +0000 UTCEIO GHO RAIN
Carrie Mook Bridgman
2025-02-28 15:40:22 +0000 UTCEvery episode summary is poetry. "Roads are like graves, they are made of dirt and the space you fill" WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO WITH THAT?? CRY?? And then I got hit with maybe one of THEE most fun/funny ->immediately gut clenchingly nerve-wracking episodes that STILL managed to, at the end, pull out something even MORE wild to top the episode off. My jaw was on the FLOOR the whole time as I was stress cleaning my bedroom at 10pm. Every single episode of this show is a 15/10. No notes, except that if anything happens to the Fox I will rage.
Colibri
2025-02-28 15:19:19 +0000 UTCI have given up trying to figure out Steel. I am positive she loves Suvi. I think her reaction to Naram's capture was sincere. But she has held back so much, from the very beginning. We still don't know how she got that scar, and it's most definitely a Chekov's gun that's been sitting there since the Children's Adventure. I don't want her to be a Villain, and I trust Brennan not to make her one. Even in this episode, Brennan carefully did not say, "Eioghorain is telling the truth." He says "Eioghorain believes every word he is saying." So I give up. I am just waiting for the reveal(s), fully understanding that I will be waiting several more years. I doubt that's getting solved by the end of the chapter.
Carrie Mook Bridgman
2025-02-28 14:19:24 +0000 UTCI got 8 minutes from the end just as I pulled up to work, and had to wait 8 hours. Then, driving home at 10pm, I had to go back and re-listen to the prior 10 minutes of leadup about 3 times, so I didn't actually finish til the next morning.
Carrie Mook Bridgman
2025-02-28 14:09:50 +0000 UTCWhich is funny, because there was literally no description other than "older man, salt and pepper hair" and the detail of walking past Suvi as a beast, transforming into a naked man, and putting his pants on before turning around. And I thought "shirtless and has to be muscled and lean," and I am *not* a denizen of Horny Jail. How does Brennan do this?
Carrie Mook Bridgman
2025-02-28 14:03:03 +0000 UTCI made a memory chant like the Mickey Mouse one: E-I-O G-H-O R-A-I-N.
Carrie Mook Bridgman
2025-02-28 13:55:36 +0000 UTCI do not understand how we're on Episode 43 and that has been my reaction to every single one.
Carrie Mook Bridgman
2025-02-28 13:50:31 +0000 UTCUmm....
Carrie Mook Bridgman
2025-02-28 13:49:28 +0000 UTCI'm gonna puke this episode was insane
Emily Rieser
2025-02-28 13:39:59 +0000 UTCWe’re right upon the 2 year anniversary of this podcast and the episodes are STILL getting better! Absolutely wonderful episode and I’m even more excited for what’s to come after having our beloved wizard’s entire foundation absolutely rocked
Josh Harris
2025-02-28 12:49:03 +0000 UTCYeah! I got that but what did the secret citadel org do that she would react that way, this is what I've forgotten/didn't pick up from prior episodes
Vivid Weasel
2025-02-28 12:18:31 +0000 UTCHe really put his tots into this one! 💖
Aabria Iyengar
2025-02-28 11:26:42 +0000 UTCCurious for the Fireside - if Suvi hadn’t told Silver the truth, would Keen still have been waiting for them?
HaliCait
2025-02-28 11:09:55 +0000 UTCThe Citadel has several different themes. I think of this as the Captain Sky theme. They also have the Eyrian theme, with the staccato trumpets and the bell tones, which is more "behold the wonders what magic can work at the hands of mortal wizards!" Energy. But Captain Sky can be a captain in any force. Just needs a team and an objective.
Sean Boyce
2025-02-28 09:10:43 +0000 UTCBRENNAN YOU DIRTY DOG. Also, if he ever gives Taylor cause to put a whimpering Fox in the audio like that again, it's Dennys Parking Lot time. I don't care if he's a daddy now.
Sean Boyce
2025-02-28 09:03:14 +0000 UTCOh yeah when she gave Fox the go ahead to sing aloud I was straight up flummoxed
Sable
2025-02-28 08:39:15 +0000 UTCI agree that, in hindsight, Suvi telling Silver about her lie was a bad move and really screwed them over. However, I think there's a couple reasons why Suvi's getting a little more grace than Ame in this episode: 1. Suvi opening up to someone like that is VERY rare for her, and 2. She and Silver had both confessed to each other, had shared their true names with each other, and Silver was being completely open with Suvi. She (rightfully) felt having a relationship based on lies was something she didn't want and with the info she had in that moment thought he would accept her truths. Like, yeah, as a listener I was thinking "Oh man, Suvi, you done gone goofed" but it was a realistic mistake to make that I also think will add to the interest of the story. Ame, on the other hand, pulls that kind of stunt almost every time the opportunity arises. Suvi's mistake had me thinking "Oh my God, I can't believe she told him! Especially NOW!" While Ame's mistake was just "Yep, here we go again, this tracks." Suvi gets more grace than Ame right now, I think, because her perceived mistake is a new thing while Ame's been stuck in this rut from the beginning.
Sable
2025-02-28 08:32:44 +0000 UTCPermanent invite link! https://discord.gg/worldsbeyondpod
Amelia Tedesco
2025-02-28 07:00:05 +0000 UTCThis is seriously one of the best episodes I’ve ever heard. I listened to it twice in a row to fully process. That was INCREDIBLE. LETS. EFFING. GOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Amelia Tedesco
2025-02-28 06:55:05 +0000 UTCAdd me in too, please!
Sarah Hoppe-Savage
2025-02-28 06:20:09 +0000 UTCOh walking into that obvious trap annoyed me so bad. Also it was exactly perfectly right for Ame’s character and the story. So I was annoyed but loved it.
Tony C
2025-02-28 06:00:00 +0000 UTCSign me up too
The Wizard Sparrow
2025-02-28 05:29:08 +0000 UTCSame
The Wizard Sparrow
2025-02-28 05:28:06 +0000 UTCMe too
The Wizard Sparrow
2025-02-28 05:27:58 +0000 UTCWhat is happening? How am I supposed to sleep after that? Thank you all for such a fantastic story!!!
Safyre Black
2025-02-28 05:16:30 +0000 UTCBrennan, if Keen is Jasper's name cloak, so help me
Sil
2025-02-28 04:23:44 +0000 UTCHave you met Ame? She's the real wild card of the group
K80
2025-02-28 04:13:32 +0000 UTCoh my GOD
Lauren
2025-02-28 04:09:15 +0000 UTCAs a child of the 90s, I was reminded viscerally of Count Frollo's treatment of Esmeralda. The othering "creature," the intimate touch, the use of physical restraint to reinforce his position of power. Truly vile.
bluebluebutton
2025-02-28 04:09:13 +0000 UTCThis episode sooooo good 🥰
Ed
2025-02-28 03:50:07 +0000 UTCngl i’ve been trying to make a “eioghorainn luck” joke but aint shit funny forreal
dengdengdeng
2025-02-28 03:38:30 +0000 UTC<3 someone link me the fan discord please. it's gotta be going bonkers rn
Nana J
2025-02-28 03:36:35 +0000 UTCAre you referring to when she rolled to see if Eioghorain was lying? If so, I think her reaction to it was “if this is correct then everything I’ve been told to believe about the citadel has been lies / brainwashing” and she didn’t want it to be true.
Devon
2025-02-28 03:22:38 +0000 UTCGods a “You want some help” moment is honestly the DREAM. The RESPECT for these creatives I have is unparrelled I just got goosebumps at the level of “Assemble” in Endgame God DAMN
Kevin Turner
2025-02-28 03:17:13 +0000 UTCEnd of season 4 boom cliffhanger boom
Antareeksh Deb
2025-02-28 03:05:13 +0000 UTCFinal prediction: Eursulon, Ame, and Suvi take the train ticket to see tefmet and meet up with Antivolists
Antareeksh Deb
2025-02-28 03:05:03 +0000 UTCWHY DID THE WIZARD KEEN SAY “KEEP IT ON ICE” YEAH ITS A REGULAR PHRASE BUT THE ONLY CHARACTER WE KNOW WHO SAYS THAY IS STEEL ITS COOKED YALL SHES EVIL
Antareeksh Deb
2025-02-28 03:04:35 +0000 UTCAlso let us not gloss over the fact that suvi was referred to as a PRINCESS!
Marji
2025-02-28 01:36:47 +0000 UTCWOW I am so deeply inspired by you all. The artistry, the storytelling, the music! Everything! I am SO EXCITED to see what suvi does with all of this insane information. Listening to these episodes has made me a better and more confident player in my own campaign. Gratitude to you all, let's keep this train rolling!
Marji
2025-02-28 01:34:48 +0000 UTCTaylor edited his ass off on this one gang
Andrew Freeman
2025-02-28 01:25:08 +0000 UTCHOLY SHIT
Michael Yong
2025-02-28 01:23:00 +0000 UTCOmg the amount of SCREAMING I DID THROUGHOUT THIS EPISODE
Danielle Olmoguez
2025-02-28 01:04:40 +0000 UTCI'm not saying that she didn't have a good reason to try, there's exactly zero dispute about that. Everyone involved has every reason to believe the great bullfrog is injured or even possibly in danger.... but that doesn't mean that taking the riskiest public option is something to risk the mission on! Ame doesn't need a Shrine to commune with spirits and deciding to once again throw caution to the Wind, right after someone BEGS you not to..... it's just inconsiderate and foolish, regardless of how warranted her concerns are
Kellie O Edwards
2025-02-28 01:02:57 +0000 UTCI’m so glad someone else is still thinking about the new gift for Indri! I’ve been getting more and more stressed each episode worrying that Ame has completely forgotten it!
Verity Johnson
2025-02-28 01:01:14 +0000 UTCI get that, I think there's also doing your duty in a way that makes sense (Eursalon does it later in the episode when he doesn't go head first into the trap that's meant for him)
Mubarak Abdi
2025-02-28 00:54:34 +0000 UTCPart 2 of things I totally forgot about: The bile smell when wavebreaker was applied to Ame and the bile smelling of Eioghorain. I don’t know how to explain that
Antareeksh Deb
2025-02-28 00:53:20 +0000 UTCHi! As a fellow Edinburgher I couldn't agree more! 😁
Charlotte
2025-02-28 00:51:56 +0000 UTCHarm will befall that fictional fox over our collective dead bodies
Erin Copland
2025-02-28 00:45:26 +0000 UTCEpisode Spoilers in this comment I didn't understand suvie's reaction to the secret citadel org. What do we know they did? I'm assuming the spirit capture stuff, and kidnapping those kids. ADHD girlie here trying to figure out what she forgot from past episodes
Vivid Weasel
2025-02-28 00:18:45 +0000 UTC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Brandi Tambasco
2025-02-28 00:07:25 +0000 UTCOk as I was typing this theory I realized this might be an intense reaction to the end of the episode. I for example forgot about the fact that Grandma Wren personally questioned Eioghorain’s loyalty to the Accadator. So maybe Eioghorain isn’t the most trustworthy. However, that nat 20 insight Suvi had suggests to me that he was being truthful. Maybe this is a strong reaction still.
Antareeksh Deb
2025-02-28 00:03:39 +0000 UTCI thought that too, but great spirits couldn't even see Suvi with the amulet. Maybe he's half great spirit? Or a Descent of a great spirt?
Nick Calderone
2025-02-28 00:02:08 +0000 UTCI felt she was trying to communicate with the bull frog akin to at Orimas shrine, she wanted to know if it was alive and capable of communication with the material world
The Wizard Scam
2025-02-28 00:00:49 +0000 UTCOkay WHO writes these episode descriptions because every time they are ACTUALLY POETRY and it makes me want to write essays about the descriptions alone, never mind the whole art of the whole episode!!
Megan Murphy
2025-02-27 23:53:56 +0000 UTCI have a fan theory: I think Steel is evil, you don’t get to the top of the Citadel (as sword of the citadel) and not know about the shady shit that the League of Whispers is up to if it truly is just a regular arm of the Citadel I think Steel has been spending as much time as possible trying to locate Eioghorain because he is the last person who knows a little bit on the shady happenings of the Citadel. If Eioghorain connected some dots, he might find out that Steel has been behind some of the machinations of the League of Whispers. I think Steel is trying to dispatch of Eioghorain before anything comes out. Additionally, I think Steel is trying to kill Eioghorain before Suvi ever gets a chance to meet him so that she never finds out some of the truth around her parents’ deaths (which she eventually does this episode). Since season 2, Steel has been putting in Suvi’s mind that “oh Eioghorain is too powerful and would kill you do not try and look for him” and I feel like that Steel has been doing this explicitly so that Suvi doesn’t try and find Eioghorain (and then subsequently learn more of the truth). I’m predicting that when Suvi and Eioghorain and others go to save the Gra-know (I’m sorry I don’t know how it is spelled) children and they run into Steel who will try to kill Eioghorain, bing-bang-boom Steel is the BBEG bing-bang-boom we’ll explore that sometime in the future but for now new setting! If I have forgotten key info that makes this theory blatantly incorrect or if you have opinions let me know! (Also if anyone else has already theorized this let me know)
Antareeksh Deb
2025-02-27 23:53:42 +0000 UTCSil, we must prepare ourselves for hard things. Take heart, I could be full of shit ✨❤️🩹
Witch of the Remembering Bog
2025-02-27 23:52:41 +0000 UTCI reckon Keen is deliberately being vague to get Skye to step in it/ catch her in admitting treason... but 🤷🏼 as Brennan said, even if Silver didn't say anything, Skye is not in Bracken, and Steele is arriving this same day
Sil
2025-02-27 23:43:25 +0000 UTCGoddamn it why. Why would you do this 😭
Sil
2025-02-27 23:40:53 +0000 UTCNot a great fan of the citadel, but it's not just made up of leadership and therefore I try to give case-by-case considerations (can you tell I work as a public servant & I have great colleagues? 😂) AND! AAANNNDDDD... Keen is an Emperium?sp wizard 😉
Sil
2025-02-27 23:39:57 +0000 UTCNothing "just happens" in post! I'd love to know this too, have you submitted it as a question?
Sil
2025-02-27 23:36:40 +0000 UTCSo my assumption now is that Yorin is not only a spirit but a great spirit because the amulet protect the wizard Sky from great spirits
The Wizard Scam
2025-02-27 23:35:40 +0000 UTCYou won't have to fight alone
lil guy
2025-02-27 22:33:03 +0000 UTCUpset over how babygirl Eioghorain is
lil guy
2025-02-27 22:28:57 +0000 UTCcan i send aabria and brennan my therapy bill
Crits
2025-02-27 21:57:06 +0000 UTCNo I didn’t but that is such a great parallel!
iain scoular
2025-02-27 21:32:02 +0000 UTCYES. absolutely that and a couple "you bastard"
Wren
2025-02-27 21:04:46 +0000 UTCThe way I kept yelling BITCH at different points and then shouted YES with Suvi was everything.
RT
2025-02-27 21:01:33 +0000 UTCAnyone clock how it was a witch (wren) a wild one (yorin) and a wizard (soft and stone) and now it’s a witch a wizard and a wild one…. Brennan you dog.
RT
2025-02-27 21:00:24 +0000 UTCI'm curious if as we follow Suvi's arc if the brass of the Citadel will turn into a mix of instruments to signal moving away from the system. Gahhh this episode had everything and all kudos and credit to the cast and team. It feels each episode gains more and more speed. Truly breathtaking work ❤️❤️❤️
Wren
2025-02-27 20:52:03 +0000 UTCThank you for acknowledging this truth
Shannon
2025-02-27 20:18:54 +0000 UTCI feel like i got lead on the most insane emotional roller coaster all at the cost of hitting the play button
Panda
2025-02-27 20:17:28 +0000 UTCFull. Body. Goosebumps.
Kael McDonald
2025-02-27 19:51:53 +0000 UTCthe words I want to say to the whole cast are unkind words in the most kind way......what the ACTUAL fuck guys. Also Steel is dead to me. Silver is dead to me. The Wizard Keen can die slowly being tortured by violence over the course of a year.
GR Girlie
2025-02-27 19:37:42 +0000 UTCTo the people being mad at the witch for doing witch stuff. Literally what? The fact that this was a trap for Ame and it worked perfectly is amazing narrative storytelling. If a DM puts a giant red button with your name on it in front of you, you don’t just ignore it.
Noah Jeans
2025-02-27 19:02:31 +0000 UTCIt’s a powerful war motivator to have a person to blame… and it helps them redouble their loyalty learning about a “traitor,” my guess is absolutely
Witch of the Remembering Bog
2025-02-27 18:41:13 +0000 UTCThis iron and bile scent is visually present in Eioghorain’s physicality too. I think iron might be a Gaothmai “shackle” to keep a spirit way-shadowed. Which does not mean that Eioghorain made the curse, but maybe that magic is from another iron-bound spirit. I feel like Man in Black is also connected to iron… am I mixing my stories?
Witch of the Remembering Bog
2025-02-27 18:34:34 +0000 UTCMy jaw on the damn floor! I love it
Deidra Brown
2025-02-27 18:06:50 +0000 UTCPeople ripping on Ame have not been paying attention. Expecting a witch to not do her sworn duty is wild.
Krissi Carson
2025-02-27 17:55:10 +0000 UTCMy new neighbors definitely heard me yelling and gasping with this one. Thanks for the new dad, Brennan!
Ches
2025-02-27 17:43:02 +0000 UTCAme is the absolute worst. If she ever trusted Suvi even a little bit everything would go so much smoother.
Gregg Csikos
2025-02-27 17:37:20 +0000 UTCDamn the hits really kept comign and did NOT STOP COMING THIS EP WAS INSANE
Liz Chop
2025-02-27 17:31:19 +0000 UTCgod. i've been waiting for years for that reveal. Well, hoping. and now i have a new blorbo. HELL yeah. there are so many fantastic things about this episode (as with every episode) but i just don't have the words for them right now.
Jules O
2025-02-27 17:29:01 +0000 UTCYEEEEAAAAHHHHG
Jules O
2025-02-27 17:20:33 +0000 UTC1) holy shit, this episode!!!! I caught up on the last few months of episodes this past week and of course This One is the one i have to deal with the full cliffhanger effect on 😭 i was whooping and hollering for the whole last half from such wildly different ends of the emotional spectrum, and didn't stop until like 10 min after it was over 2) fantastic soundwork as always 💜 i'm not very good at (consciously) picking up on the subtleties of things, esp on my first listen, but the underwater effects when Suvi was pulled into the water were amazing! so immersive, and i just know that the swells of emotion that i felt were fed and supported by Taylor's amazing work <3 3) the Eioghorain reveal!! i love how much complexity this immediately adds, both to the characters and the plot. like, it always pinged me as weird that the One (1) plot-relevant character from Gaothmai was painted as an Objectively Bad Guy from day one, esp with Brennan's style of storytelling, and i'm so happy to have that vindicated! Also, i had forgotten that was how his name is spelt, and now looking at that Gaelic As Fuck spelling, along with the Welsh/Gaelic placenames... is Eioghorain in the Fantasy IRA??? bc i would fuck with that so hard, holy shit 4) i'm seeing a lot of "Steel killed Suvi's parents" and while that plot angle would be hella juicy for the emotional impact, my occam's razor lands on it mostly likely being a case of dis/misinformation. Either Steel genuinely believes that Eioghorain is responsible for Soft and Stone's deaths through logical leaps and/or the Citadel feeding her false info to secure her loyalty, or she could have lied to Suvi to keep this child/fresh adult who doesn't have the juice (yet) to be fighting the CITADEL from throwing hands with the whole-ass empire to avenge her parents, esp with how Not Good At Lying she historically is. I could be wrong, but that seems like a perfectly logical thing for someone as embedded in the system as Steel to do, esp if in the wake of the LoW reveal, she went the reformer route rather than the revolutionary route that i'm guessing Suvi's parents did. 5) What The Hell, Brennan?? why are you so good at playing evil characters?!? it's crazy and you're so talented (i mean, this whole team is but) how do you make me hate someone so much in just 5 sentences, wtf. Keen is such a fucking bastard and if the fox dies, i'm throwing hands!! (also, that gd namecloak Hits Different bc i was thinking of 'keen' as in clever and observant, but now i'm remembering that there's also 'keen' as in a whine or high-pitched wail, usually of grief, pain, or distress. just... 🖕🖕🖕 6) Aabria in that last scene was fucking incredible and i love her. "I thought she told you not to frighten her child" to "welp, I'm dead, might as well say what's in my heart" to "they're keeping CHILDREN" "...would you like some help?" "Yes." Amazing, 11/10, no notes
Witch of Words and Wandering
2025-02-27 17:06:57 +0000 UTCYeah when Aabria said "I need this to be a lie" before discovering undeniably that it wasn't - that felt like one of the most impactful rolls of the entire campaign
Joel Hicks
2025-02-27 17:04:18 +0000 UTCSure, but I think she could have done that in a way that didn’t blow their cover and accounted for the context they were in. Her domain is also mortal people and connecting or understanding them. I get that she was trying to get a sense of how truly gone the great bullfrog was, but she could have connected into that without having her fox sing loudly in a place full of people. The way to repair the transgression between the great bullfrog and mortals would be to free the trapped children of his chosen people and she really stopped that goal by being impulsive.
Domtext
2025-02-27 16:49:05 +0000 UTCI was waiting for that reveal!!! I knew it couldn't be so black and white! SAVE THEM KIDS!!
Bizarre Little Star Creations
2025-02-27 16:27:04 +0000 UTCSo do we think the Citadel will blame Suvi for all those soldiers ending up dead or will she be presumed dead along with them
Chelsea Brown
2025-02-27 16:11:16 +0000 UTCMy god. I love this story so much.
Kam Alyse
2025-02-27 16:09:55 +0000 UTCCatastrophic level of goosebumps after that ending
Ben Fogle
2025-02-27 14:37:58 +0000 UTCKids, this is the episode where the strategy of "Kill the confirmed evil character, it just saves time." is validated. A.G.
Aussie Griffin
2025-02-27 14:24:07 +0000 UTCincredible work! absolutely darstadly that i have to wait two weeks for the next part!
Phi
2025-02-27 13:59:28 +0000 UTCOoooo! Interesting…
Mona Handa
2025-02-27 12:37:34 +0000 UTCGoosebumps
Dan Walker
2025-02-27 12:37:21 +0000 UTCTHAT ENDING
Dan Walker
2025-02-27 12:37:13 +0000 UTCSCREAMING. DEAD. Mourn me.
Victometron
2025-02-27 11:36:35 +0000 UTCI think it really came down to that nat 20 insight, otherwise I suspect Aabria would have held on to Suvi’s self deception much longer.
Aaron Fu
2025-02-27 11:01:02 +0000 UTCHELL YEAH
Josie
2025-02-27 09:51:46 +0000 UTCTaylor/Brennan once I stop crying I'll fight you for making me hear the little fox whimper, I'll fight you
Erin Copland
2025-02-27 08:45:44 +0000 UTChad to pause & take a lil break cause of the stress. amazing episode as always yall ✨ edit: my gods, im glad i restarted 😭 this feels like a very intense religious deconstruction in a way
WizardScorch
2025-02-27 08:23:04 +0000 UTCOk, so the musical theme at the end I have always associated with the Citadel. Idk, others can validate or disagree, but it's what I have associated it with, even if it has been mostly played around Suvi, too. With this in mind, it is absolutely BRILLIANT that this theme is now played only for Suvi when she makes a call that goes directly against the Citadel. What an awesome way to portray that all the training and raising (and brainwashing?) the Citadel has given Suvi she is now making her own. CINEMATIC!
The Witch of the Weeping Rain
2025-02-27 08:19:22 +0000 UTCI wonder if that's why the iron and bile scent Suvi associated Eioghorain with was the same scent Ame smelt when her curse was broken. They both had their memories tampered with.
Nick
2025-02-27 08:18:04 +0000 UTCIn the fireside for episode 38 (I just listened to it again, so I'm not an encyclopedia of WBN knowledge), Brennan talks about some of the shape changers in the battle not shifting, and instead focusing on druidic spells, specifically the vines that were going to catch as many soldiers in the river as possible. So, I'd say they're mostly druids. It fits in with the vibe and what they're capable of doing. Maybe Eighorain specifically is circle of the moon, so he can change into a wider array of creatures, while a lot of others are more focused on druidic spells, so they have a different subclass that's unable to wildshape into something as fierce as a Garran?
Nick
2025-02-27 08:15:27 +0000 UTCBoth of them have faults. It speaks to how good the acting on this show is that it causes such strong reactions. I love them all!
Valerie Richardson
2025-02-27 08:11:33 +0000 UTCI think with Suvi it was a gamble based in what she thought was a deep and loving connection. With Ame, especially considering Suvi’s pleading warning, it was just daft.
Udoka
2025-02-27 08:07:33 +0000 UTCI would love Ame to be a little more wise. Given the huge journey Eursolon and Suvi have been on since the start of the main campaign it feels like she’s suffering from arrested development. I’m scared to think what it might take for her to finally learn from her mistakes…
Udoka
2025-02-27 08:04:59 +0000 UTCSuvi being presumed dead after coming home wreathed in laurels will be so galling for Silver. Fuck you dude!
Udoka
2025-02-27 08:00:03 +0000 UTCI agree! I just don’t think it’s as simple as Steel being a moustache twirling baddie the whole time. She Loves Suvi.
Udoka
2025-02-27 07:57:46 +0000 UTCOh so any alternative recommendations? I get the general idea, just a bit sad I can no longer follow the plot and join the enthusiasm cos of game mechanics
Iryn
2025-02-27 07:10:57 +0000 UTCI've been catching up for months, and oh my god what an episode to reach at the end of my feed 😭 Eioghorain went from being the final boss of some later arc to the most dangerous estranged uncle Suvi has ever had. I love how quickly she went "fuck it, let's ball" even with the caveat she thought she was already dead at the bottom of a river. The way she's so rapidly sprinting down this new road, I'm half expecting Suvi to multi class as a witch at 5th level and join the Coven of Elders just so she can vote in favor of knocking down the Tower that got her parents killed and lied to her about it for her entire life. I don't think that will actually happen, but I also didn't expect her to buddy up with Eioghorain within 10 minutes of meeting him again as an adult, so anything's possible now
Joel Hicks
2025-02-27 07:09:12 +0000 UTCHold Monster 5 enchantment Casting Time: 1 action Range: 90 feet Target: A creature that you can see within range Components: V S M (A small, straight piece of iron) Duration: Up to 1 minute Classes: Bard, Sorcerer, Warlock, Wizard Choose a creature that you can see within range. The target must succeed on a Wisdom saving throw or be paralyzed for the duration. This spell has no effect on undead. At the end of each of its turns, the target can make another Wisdom saving throw. On a success, the spell ends on the target.
Sid Richey
2025-02-27 05:26:22 +0000 UTCHAVE WE FORGOTTEN “I’m gonna kill that dog!” ?
Sid Richey
2025-02-27 05:24:20 +0000 UTCShe’s witch of the world’s heart, it’s her obligation to show respect to spirits as well as mortals, especially to be respectful to the victim when one has transgressed upon the other.
Sid Richey
2025-02-27 05:20:13 +0000 UTCBreenan going out of his way to describe the Garran shape that Eioghorain assumes as a beast, rather than a spirit, leads me to assume that if he has class levels, that he would be a druid. The other shape changers are almost certainly druids as well, given their abilities to assume animal form as well as communicate with and through animals (likely representing spells such as speak with animals, animal friendship, and animal messenger; all being druid spells.)
Sid Richey
2025-02-27 05:15:45 +0000 UTCTHANK YOU
WizardScorch
2025-02-27 05:12:06 +0000 UTCWHAT NOW CITADEL DEFENDERS? BOOMSHAKALAKA. EIOGHORAIN WAS WAY TOO COOL IN EPISODE 1 TO BE EVIL! loved loved loved this episode! this is what i pay 5$ a month for!
Sid Richey
2025-02-27 05:10:28 +0000 UTCI feel I need to go back to my original hunch on what actually happened that summer...
Rose Kitsude
2025-02-27 04:43:33 +0000 UTCSPOILERS Re-listening to Eioghorain’s description of leaving Soft and Stone… the way he said “ I separated from them… and realized that they lost their minds… I realized it was a lost cause” this part is not as detailed as his other recollections, and sounds off for a man who has dedicated his life to fighting as the underdog against powerful forces. Something feels unsaid here, but not intentionally, if that makes sense (Brennan so shifty). I think it’s possible Eioghorain’s had his memory Modified.
Witch of the Remembering Bog
2025-02-27 04:43:01 +0000 UTCI was not even remotely prepared for the emotional rollercoaster that this episode put me through. I had tears at both ends of the emotional spectrum. I’m spent.
Kayzar
2025-02-27 04:40:26 +0000 UTCThe way the end had me cackling and going bonkers. Amazing work from everyone!!!
Hat
2025-02-27 04:10:23 +0000 UTCThe paradox of me being furious with Brennan as evil Keen threatening himself as innocent cute buddy Fox…
Witch of the Remembering Bog
2025-02-27 04:05:35 +0000 UTCIt’s that wounded inner child god complex, baybee
Witch of the Remembering Bog
2025-02-27 03:57:13 +0000 UTCJust want to shout out the sound design for this episode. Incredible work. It's so easy for me to just picture the environments and atmosphere of a scene.
Evil Bart
2025-02-27 03:37:48 +0000 UTCIf this has been covered in a fireside chat can someone point me in the right direction? What class are the shape shifters and Eighorain? And is the latter home brewed?
David Giannetti
2025-02-27 03:34:22 +0000 UTCI get everyone being upset with Ame, but if Suvi hadn't told Silver their plans, there wouldn't have been a trap in the first place. I personally completely understand both of them doing what they did, but I'm seeing a lot of "wtf Ame" and none for Suvi. They both could've made better decisions frankly.
The Wizard Cyan
2025-02-27 03:14:34 +0000 UTCThe end of the episode ... just wow.
J. Diego Caporale
2025-02-27 02:54:49 +0000 UTCI yelled so much listening to this episode! So many crazy moments
nico
2025-02-27 02:35:31 +0000 UTCAme really is that one messy friend in every group who asks for your advice, does not take it, then expects you to get her out of the mess she made. It’s giving drunk sorority girl
Domtext
2025-02-27 02:25:59 +0000 UTCI feel like this is the lowest low and the highest high that I've felt listening to this goddamn podcast
Krisse S
2025-02-27 02:22:57 +0000 UTCTotally agree, it’s so frustrating to see this character who is supposed to be wise and diplomatic and people-centered make bad impulsive calls and never really have to field the consequences. I do think Eusalon and Suvi are gonna get her out of this too and worry that means the character growth just doesn’t happen for Ame. So confused why Erika is playing her like this
Domtext
2025-02-27 02:17:03 +0000 UTCRight??! It’s so frustrating and honestly doesn’t make sense if she’s supposed to be the witch of the worlds heart - it’s a complete lack of attention or empathy for anyone but herself and her own curiosity and activity botches all their work on this mission to help people. It actively takes me out of character believability. At a certain point she’s not listening to Suvi’s better calls just for the sake of it
Domtext
2025-02-27 02:03:35 +0000 UTCI’ve suspected Steel killed them for a while. The fact she was in the extralegal squad acting outside the citadel’s order before and is now Sword of the Citadel in the present day, I wonder how she managed to clean her ledger and elevate to such a high status so quickly? Also she is super duper loyal to the Citadel, and Suvi’s parents were objectively traitors, so…
Tempest200
2025-02-27 01:44:00 +0000 UTCI’ve now written it three times to help remember it. I may need to look into Irish? Gaelic? pronunciation guides
Aunty Kristin
2025-02-27 01:23:52 +0000 UTCThe (honorary) wizard of the tower votes YES. Let's tear that tower down
Ty6260
2025-02-27 01:14:05 +0000 UTCDo we know for a fact it's a lie? It could be something she wholeheartedly believes is true (even if I'm really it's factually wrong)
Genna
2025-02-27 01:11:47 +0000 UTCI screamed. Let's go shapeshifters!
Daniel Stevens
2025-02-27 01:09:31 +0000 UTCShe may have fully lied about her parents death. She may have been mistaken. There probably isn't an in between.
Daniel Stevens
2025-02-27 01:08:45 +0000 UTCwhy r people thinking steel maybe killed suvi's parents?
Bee Barton-Biegelsen
2025-02-27 00:21:49 +0000 UTCOne of your best episodes yet
Eli
2025-02-27 00:21:33 +0000 UTCKeen giving big Jafar vibes this ep. Also AAAAAAAAAHHHHH! My mouth literally hung open for, I believe, a full minute post reveal. WOO!!
Casey Furtado
2025-02-27 00:02:06 +0000 UTCBrennan reminding Amé to use her familiar for advantage while she still has him! 😬😭
Jordan Charles
2025-02-27 00:01:18 +0000 UTCI’ve been suspicious of her since the end of arc one. Why was she SO insistent that she be there to break Ame’s curse??? Every step of the way she’s been hiding information to control the narrative
Friday the Fierce
2025-02-26 23:53:22 +0000 UTCI hope so
Lojaan
2025-02-26 23:50:59 +0000 UTC1. I haven’t trusted Steel since the end of arc one!!! 2. Taylor, the score, my guy ❤️👏❤️👏 3. I’m so glad I listened to this in my car so I could scream and cheer without people staring 4. For gods sake, Ame, in what world was that going to be anything but a trap????
Friday the Fierce
2025-02-26 23:50:48 +0000 UTCI think part of it may be Erika intentionally pushing the "this will be a good story" buttons
Lojaan
2025-02-26 23:48:46 +0000 UTCI full on punched the air at the end of this one. Incredible
Karen Hainstock
2025-02-26 23:10:17 +0000 UTCMaybe Steel DIDN’T kill them and just couldn’t find them herself, saw some clues, went with blaming Yorin so Suvi wouldn’t feel any hope and go looking? OR… Steel hid them? that would somehow feel even more sinister.
Kalyn
2025-02-26 22:38:32 +0000 UTC“Plot is twister than a contortionist” 😂
Kalyn
2025-02-26 22:34:25 +0000 UTCOH I forgot about Indri’s gift!
Kalyn
2025-02-26 22:32:34 +0000 UTC🤣
Kellie O Edwards
2025-02-26 21:48:05 +0000 UTCThis is the best possible outcome at this point in the story and it is what I am firmly attaching all of my happy ending hopes too
Kellie O Edwards
2025-02-26 21:46:24 +0000 UTCOh, fuck I totally forgot that steel did that 😭😭😭
Kellie O Edwards
2025-02-26 21:42:07 +0000 UTCWon't pretend that I've thought through every interaction perfectly before saying this, but: The only reason I'm not giving up on Steele yet is because why would she dangle Eioghorain's presence in the area in front of Suvi if she would never want them to actually meet. Maybe she thinks Suvi would blast first, ask questions later, or maybe she didn't believe they would meet, but that feels pretty flimsy for such an intelligent person. I'm holding out hope that she's presented with the choice of her daughter or the Citadel and chooses her daughter, bringing her adorable husband and other kids with her.
Ryan
2025-02-26 21:40:44 +0000 UTCHad to pause this episode so I could tell Brennan to go fuck himself. Fuck you, Brennan! You are an outstanding storyteller you utter monster.
Mike Chapman
2025-02-26 21:39:46 +0000 UTCThat is A point that I hadn't considered yet and honestly it makes me a little less furious at her/ about the episode.... Hopefully in the aftermath of consequences , she'll stop doing stupid things.... or at least such blatantly reckless ones
Kellie O Edwards
2025-02-26 21:32:59 +0000 UTCWas telling him to start singing, out loud, In a place where no one is supposed to Know that he's there, that is also the Town Square also discreet?
Kellie O Edwards
2025-02-26 21:28:06 +0000 UTCWhat my brain understands: Steel is , absolutely, at least an antagonist and very Probably a whole ass villain What my heart wants: Steel is absolutely somehow blameless and Suvi gets the 2 most bad ass surrogate parents ever who maybe can't stand each other, but that's Okay because they live on opposite sides of continent
Kellie O Edwards
2025-02-26 21:24:40 +0000 UTCIt's very possible I'm misremembering stuff but I thought after Suvi, left Eursulon stayed for a bit longer (those few extra months) but then started roaming off and on for a while (some number of years), then finally stopped coming back altogether? It's been a hot minute since I listened to that bit of info so.
Sable
2025-02-26 21:21:43 +0000 UTCThe wiki is mad outdated, and possibly abandoned
Kellie O Edwards
2025-02-26 21:21:27 +0000 UTC🤣
Kellie O Edwards
2025-02-26 21:19:29 +0000 UTCThe ONLY good thing that happened/came out of this ep.... If no one saw the bodies.....🤞🏿
Kellie O Edwards
2025-02-26 21:19:15 +0000 UTCSAME!
Kellie O Edwards
2025-02-26 21:18:00 +0000 UTCSuvi *Explicitly Explained* why that was not an option this time and Ame went and did it anyways, fair went our the window after that
Kellie O Edwards
2025-02-26 21:17:39 +0000 UTC🤣
Kellie O Edwards
2025-02-26 21:15:47 +0000 UTCWhat would the point have even been? Awaken/summon a great spirit who's been recently very publicly wounded/rebuked/banished? Utterly wasting all the stealth that you did to get to that point, By announcing that the only person who the citadel/ Empire knows within several thousand miles, a witch- The Witch is clearly doing something in town, While you know that there are probably people looking for you and your best friend? Ugh
Kellie O Edwards
2025-02-26 21:14:38 +0000 UTCAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Caleb Jinright
2025-02-26 21:14:03 +0000 UTCIs anyone else on Team PLEASE Make Ame Learn Restraint yet? Suvi gave her SO MANY REASONS to leave the dingdong Shrine alone. Pretty sure freeing the Bullfrogs chosen children would be more than enough of an offering to the spirit, and TRULY how foolish can you be to instruct a creature to sing ALOUD in a situation that requires stealth???? L's across the board for our girl, and the excuse of naivete isn't cutting it anymore. GET CANNY MY GOOD BITCH 🤬
Kellie O Edwards
2025-02-26 21:11:30 +0000 UTCSuvi was going to be right eventually.. She didn’t know it was a trap but Suvi did ask Ame not to stick her (fox’s) nose into it.
Alex
2025-02-26 21:05:38 +0000 UTCTo be FAIR to Ame, asking the spirits for help and using the Fox to be sneaky has been incredibly successful the last 100 times
ceeg
2025-02-26 21:00:44 +0000 UTCEursulon and Ame had I think 3 more months together as children than Suvi? Definitely not years. I don’t think any combination of the three are “normal friends” lmao
ceeg
2025-02-26 20:54:03 +0000 UTCEvery single episode tops the last one. How is that even possible?
One Punch Max
2025-02-26 20:47:58 +0000 UTCStill concerned about the deadline for Ame to get a gift of equal value to Indri - like I know that’s not a priority but still concerned 😬 Also Suvi now being presumed dead is probably going to be so helpful Also Silver is a frickin narc and I’m not surprised 🙄 I cried when Yoren recognized Suvi as the daughter of his old friends and still took care of her
Annie A
2025-02-26 20:46:21 +0000 UTCthank you!
Lauren
2025-02-26 20:28:14 +0000 UTCTHIS. IS. CINEMA!!!
Quint James
2025-02-26 20:26:52 +0000 UTCYes totally agreed — there’s also something off-putting about Steel as a white woman + Citadel leader framing Eioghorain (an Asian man + outsider to the Citadel) as being so blatantly monstrous and evil when she speaks about him to Suvi. Always felt caricaturish to me and I’m glad that our first actual meeting with the man in the current timeline shows him in a very different light
Amrita Chakraborty
2025-02-26 20:08:13 +0000 UTCOh my God that ending! Also, Steel potentially being the bad guy, damn give Suvi a break lol
Chameleon
2025-02-26 19:48:18 +0000 UTCRight?! Because Keen's the one with the dispel magic correct?
PriscillaG
2025-02-26 19:37:16 +0000 UTCWhich of his friends do you think are depicted in the Chapter 4 preview art?
PriscillaG
2025-02-26 19:35:07 +0000 UTChe seems pretty eager to murder and eat his enemies but personally i think thats understandable and resource efficient
irisilmaril
2025-02-26 19:21:42 +0000 UTCSuvi has entered “fuck it” mode, I believe. Her bridges have started to burn- her ex immediately ratted her out then the Empire sent a psychopath after her. I get the sense from her attitude that she maybe still thinks she’s dead. I don’t think receiving help from him means joining him. Her own people are actively working against her mission.
irisilmaril
2025-02-26 19:19:11 +0000 UTCWhat. An. Episode!!!!!!!!!
Cecilia Ruigrok
2025-02-26 19:17:35 +0000 UTCYes ....yes....YEEEEESSSS!!! The growl in suvis voice right at the end??? I'm gonna scream
Gotholi
2025-02-26 19:15:12 +0000 UTCyou aren’t going to like this, its Eioghorain
irisilmaril
2025-02-26 19:08:34 +0000 UTCThat ending had me screaming “LETS FUCKING GOOOOO”
Katie Kat Artist
2025-02-26 19:01:05 +0000 UTCVery true, overall I'm glad that she did. All I'm thinking of is that its a big oversight in how the Citadel will view their alliance. Which will definitely lead to some exciting draammaaa between Steel and Suvi
Austin
2025-02-26 18:56:52 +0000 UTCTo be fair she didn’t necessarily side with him, but rather knew he wasn’t lying and is allowing him to join her efforts in saving the kids
The Wizard Scam
2025-02-26 18:52:45 +0000 UTCYeaaah I guess, still the only thing Brennan said was "He believes everything he's saying." Idk, to me that just doesn't give enough to immediately start working alongside them.
Austin
2025-02-26 18:37:28 +0000 UTCNat 20 insight check ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Nathaniel Levy
2025-02-26 18:34:16 +0000 UTC1st, the pause between rolls was gut wrenching. 2nd. Keen is extra disgusting and the original interactions of the cast was spot on. 3rd. Glad Eursulon saw that trap. That ending…. WILD
Stone Pengelly
2025-02-26 18:29:43 +0000 UTCOh boy I can’t wait for the fan art of Yoren (Joren? I don’t know how to spell) now.
Jerrome Lovelock
2025-02-26 18:25:54 +0000 UTCAnd how Brennan described him stroking her cheek,whispering in her ear after the sleep spell? I fucking gagged visibly--while in public
Melina
2025-02-26 18:03:52 +0000 UTCIdk if anyone else clocked this, but based on Brennan’s description of Eioghorain Lou’s illustration was 100% accurate and he deserves his flowers.
Like a bat out of The 9 Hells I’ll be gone when the morning comes
2025-02-26 18:03:46 +0000 UTCAlso I am so pumped to re-listen from the beginning (for the 3rd time LOL) for all of the context and clues that I missed the first time.
Katie
2025-02-26 18:00:15 +0000 UTCSo freaking goood!!!!!!
Stephanie Fofi
2025-02-26 17:59:09 +0000 UTCJust wanna say my 'Steel wants Eighoren dead because she doesn't want Suvi to find out she killed her parents' theory is looking pretty good right now.
Jacob Moore
2025-02-26 17:56:43 +0000 UTCBeen thinking this for a while. Better get your mind a GPS tracker XD
Jacob Moore
2025-02-26 17:55:14 +0000 UTCThey’re keeping CHILDREN!
Terrence Jackson
2025-02-26 17:42:44 +0000 UTCI think you might be right
Terrence Jackson
2025-02-26 17:42:30 +0000 UTCIf Steel killed Suvi’s parents I’m gonna lose my mind…
PharaohNoir
2025-02-26 17:40:22 +0000 UTCAbsolute Cinema 🤯❤️🩹
The Sandman
2025-02-26 17:37:02 +0000 UTCScreaming, crying, throwing the fuck up. WHAT WAS THIS EPISODE. I love it so much I can barely contain myself.
Urte
2025-02-26 17:30:07 +0000 UTCI think they're either trapped or hiding in the Near-Spirit
Sara
2025-02-26 17:24:12 +0000 UTCOoohoohoooo the amount of d3@d that is gonna happen to Keen is gonna be bigger than the Sky DO NOT MESS WITH MY LITTLE FOX GUY Jaysus, this plot is twistier than a contortionist. Feeling that emotional whiplash right alongside Suvi.
Danielle St John
2025-02-26 16:58:39 +0000 UTCHad to literally pause because fuck Keen. I'll go back but right now BRENNAN HOW DARE YOU HE'S JUST A BABY.
Krystine W.
2025-02-26 16:52:20 +0000 UTCI did not even consider this!!!!! Anxiety just bumped waaaayyyyy up
Jenny
2025-02-26 16:46:17 +0000 UTCBuild up the Spirit Army!!!
atomic
2025-02-26 16:30:50 +0000 UTCOmg! I have chills and I'm late to work because of this episode!! 😂
Michelle Aigner
2025-02-26 16:19:29 +0000 UTCwhy does Keen feel like the most cruel DM you read reddit stories about
kragonaught
2025-02-26 16:09:05 +0000 UTCwhile Steel is extremely unhappy to be in a DnD campaign, Keen has the core manual, wiki, and everyone’s character sheet memorized
kragonaught
2025-02-26 16:08:26 +0000 UTCWow, I don't ever leave comments but this is probably the most insane TTRPG podcast episode that I've ever heard, goddamn
Elsper
2025-02-26 15:10:18 +0000 UTCAfter this ep, anybody else thinking maybe, maaaaaaybe Suvi's parents are alive out there somewhere?
Michael Landes
2025-02-26 15:00:31 +0000 UTCBrennan is getting ready to serve us a reverse Darth Vader with Steele. “You’re not my mother you killed my mother!” Loving every minute of this ride no matter where it takes us. Thank you!
Joe Wolnik
2025-02-26 14:48:11 +0000 UTCOmg this episode was INCREDIBLE. I felt terror and rage and all the things. And the music was simply KILLING IT. Holy SHITBALZ.
Mythic Geekdom
2025-02-26 14:32:05 +0000 UTCCHILLLS!!!!
Thomas Moberg
2025-02-26 14:26:30 +0000 UTCThis one? https://worldsbeyondnumber.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page
Iryn
2025-02-26 14:16:36 +0000 UTCalso, using the Jawbone Voice for any character is a good way to make people fall for them. i could see Brennan using it for evil....
Felix
2025-02-26 14:01:26 +0000 UTC"The animal." HUH?? WUH???? DID KEEN SEVER THEIR CONNECTION?? "THE ANIMAL" IS PARALYZED, UNABLE TO TALK TO AME, BUT AWAKE AND AWARE... BRENNAN WHY ISN'T HE "THE FOX" WHY IS HE "THE ANIMAL"?!? BRENNAN!!!
Felix
2025-02-26 13:59:39 +0000 UTCNot even finished the ep yet but Goddamn i love Ame and i know its true to character but WHY did you need to look under the tarp? Why couldnt you have cast invisibility first even? Not that the wouldve done anything given that it was a obvious trap and they mightve been looking for it but AGH
Ro Lara
2025-02-26 13:58:15 +0000 UTCSPOILERS Okay I know it's been leading to Suvis mistrust of the Citadel but does anyone think she sided with Eioghorain a bit quickly?
Austin
2025-02-26 13:27:23 +0000 UTCWoke up this morning and my brain said, “Eioghorain kinda sounds like Eeyore” And pop Eioghorain now occupies a soft spot in my heart.
Jenny
2025-02-26 13:21:59 +0000 UTCthere's a wiki
E l i j a h
2025-02-26 13:19:37 +0000 UTCI hate being caught up 😭
E l i j a h
2025-02-26 13:18:36 +0000 UTCHonestly, that’s just some damn fine storytelling. The highs and lows were at the extreme ends of the spectrum, all with a thrilling score at every new scene. I feel like I didn’t catch a breath until the end of the episode.
Alex Barnes
2025-02-26 13:01:35 +0000 UTCSo glad I was listening in my car so I could SCREAM.
Jess Rogers
2025-02-26 12:56:51 +0000 UTCBrennan is the master of making me utterly loathe him in one part of the ep and loudly cheer for him in a different part of the ep.
John Lancaster
2025-02-26 12:45:11 +0000 UTCAnd perhaps that's all we have is impressions. Eventually this will be played out and more definition will add to the the character's traits. Until then we speculate.
Johnathan Arriola
2025-02-26 12:43:00 +0000 UTCFinished the last 20 mins getting ready for work this morning, yelling "FUCK" "CHRIST" "SHITE" "AABRIA" "BRENNAN" etc etc. Have pity on my partner and my neighbours.
Lynn O'Reilly
2025-02-26 12:39:33 +0000 UTCYeah there were so many things Steel said that with all this new information are such overt lies i cannot fathom how she is not responsible for killing soft and stone. Girl even called Eiorghorain a psychopath and unless bro really chilled out over the past decade i have no idea how you get there.
Ale
2025-02-26 12:28:38 +0000 UTCBrennan: Eioghorain Erika: GAHHHHHHHH Aabria: GAHHHHHHHH Me: GAHHHHHHHH
João Padinha
2025-02-26 12:22:47 +0000 UTCI spent the first half of the episode feeling so defeated and like nonono this is the worst what are we going to do now and then by the end I was like yesyesyesyeyesyesyesyesyehsyehshesssss
The Witch of the Wandering Ways
2025-02-26 11:54:51 +0000 UTCYa good point! I need to give it a second listen to hear what Taylor & Co are doing to puppet my subconscious.
William Hansen
2025-02-26 11:18:16 +0000 UTCI was SCREAMING by the end of the episode. Mostly "I FRICKIN CALLED IT" but also howling at how hot you made Suves uncle. Pun intended. There is NO WAY he makes it out this alive #justiceforsirius
Mike Bailey
2025-02-26 10:29:01 +0000 UTCThe Fox was an immediate loophole for Ame to get what she wanted. The soldiers know Ame has a fox familiar, so if someone had seen a random fox running around town while it was busy it would've raised alarms. Discreet would, at the very least, have involved the Invisibility spell given how extremely risky their situation was.
Sable
2025-02-26 09:55:24 +0000 UTCHow the hell am I meant to wait two weeks for another episode?? Welp, time to relisten to the children's adventure
Dom Pickston
2025-02-26 09:50:50 +0000 UTCWhen will Ame ever learn??? That shrine under a tarp IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GATHERING GROUNDS you’ve got to be kidding me. She has a motherfricking map, Suvi begging her to be chill, and nothing but red flags…
Katja Gallagher
2025-02-26 09:35:09 +0000 UTCI have the same theory!
Cackle Cackle
2025-02-26 09:04:30 +0000 UTCLol like Wickham vibes?
Cackle Cackle
2025-02-26 09:01:31 +0000 UTCIt’s in the transcripts
Iryn
2025-02-26 08:57:56 +0000 UTCHey dnd folks: is anyone here mapping the Umora lore? New to dnd so I keep losing the plot on this arc as it gets more dicey pun intended 😶🌫️
Iryn
2025-02-26 08:54:04 +0000 UTCI mean, we don’t have proof yet that Silver leaked. I wouldn’t be surprised if Keen was up to some sneaky shit. If I was Suvi I would work very hard not to confirm ANYTHING.
Cackle Cackle
2025-02-26 08:51:00 +0000 UTCOoooooooh!!! I love this idea
Cackle Cackle
2025-02-26 08:40:07 +0000 UTCEvery gosh darn time every time. You always ALWAYS end when I want the most Now I need to wait another 2 weeks for this masterpiece of story telling. You are so cruel
Adam D.
2025-02-26 08:32:35 +0000 UTCThank you for articulating it for me - it feels like a loss of complexity. But knowing Brennan and knowing this story, I have plenty of faith that it'll get plenty more complicated as things go on 😌🙏
KamasiFitzgerald
2025-02-26 08:31:13 +0000 UTCI just remembered that it doesn’t matter what Steele says to Suvi, because all she has to do is ask Task to show her what the stars saw the night her parents were betrayed. Yes, bring it on!!!
The Wizard Sparrow
2025-02-26 08:30:40 +0000 UTCThat sounds amazing 🤗
The Wizard Sparrow
2025-02-26 08:24:34 +0000 UTCAndrew Scott lacks the reptilian nastiness. Keen has "bad guy suitor in a Jane Austen adaptation who's actually just after the estate" vibes.
Brandon Carbaugh
2025-02-26 08:22:24 +0000 UTCI think Suvi found out a little bit about the LOW when she did reeearxh in the citadel — might need to relisten to remember the whole story.
Cackle Cackle
2025-02-26 08:21:44 +0000 UTCI’m so positive of Steel’s ethically oblivious, absolutely calculated evilness. Maybe I’m wrong but I’m so down for a Suvi / Eioghorain buddy cop movie 🤣🥰
Cackle Cackle
2025-02-26 08:20:26 +0000 UTCIIIIIIIII KNNNEEEEEEEWWWWWWWW IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTUHHHH YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS I’VE BEEN WAITING SO LONG FOR A EIOGHORAIN COLLAB BITCHHHHHHHHHHH LET’S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Cackle Cackle
2025-02-26 08:18:30 +0000 UTCUsing the Fox to look under the tarp was being discreet.
The Wizard Sparrow
2025-02-26 08:17:03 +0000 UTCSo true
The Wizard Sparrow
2025-02-26 08:12:31 +0000 UTCMe too.
The Wizard Sparrow
2025-02-26 08:12:08 +0000 UTCI fear that conversation, for Suvi sake, though part of me still believes Steele was fed lies also.
The Wizard Sparrow
2025-02-26 08:11:21 +0000 UTCGot me punching the air at 4am at work y'all
Erin
2025-02-26 08:09:24 +0000 UTCYou..you..you… i’m in tears as the fox is frozen and his neck is being squished by Keen (grrr) my mind scrambles as Ame begins to bargain…part of me wants her to call out to Hakaya. Eursolon, waiting, time IS on his side. The wizard Sky (our dear Suvi) holding nothing back breaks bread with Yuron, starting a quest..continuing her parents rebellion of the Citadel. It is now 2:06 PM and I just literally screamed at the top of my lungs at the end of this episode. There’s no way I can fall asleep now. OMG…you did it again.. another AMAZING, emotional roller coaster episode. ❤️❤️🤗🔥
The Wizard Sparrow
2025-02-26 08:08:02 +0000 UTCSCREAMING. too good guys. 10s, 10s, 10s across the board
Maddison King
2025-02-26 07:52:27 +0000 UTCAlso +++++++++1 to everyone who said they can’t wait for the conversation with Mama Steel, during Eiorghorain’s lore drop I was like okay so Steel was in the extralegal group but now she’s the Sword of the Citadel, how’d you manage that hunny 👀
Yarl
2025-02-26 07:39:24 +0000 UTCOkay I’m so relieved and honestly vindicated that Eiorghorain became empathetic finally because from EPISODE ONE I felt so deeply uncomfortable at how flatly and like bizarrely uncreatively Brennan painted him as monstrous and evil and foul smelling etc etc. I was like this doesn’t match the rest of the rich storytelling we’re doing here and I’m really not about a character who is flagged as bad because their body is different and they have a big deep voice. So tgod that was a red herring, although a little basic. We love nuanced and more interesting and cool Eiorghorain!! Pop off king Alsooo I can’t track and remember lore for the life of me, do we already have info about the League of Whispers? When Suvi had such a major reaction and threw up I was like okay I get that this is the final dagger in her citadel heart but couldn’t quite catch why that info had such a huge impact on her
Yarl
2025-02-26 07:36:24 +0000 UTC😂
Yarl
2025-02-26 07:24:29 +0000 UTCListened to this right after finishing episode 2 of EXU Divergence, and let me just say this has been an emotionally devastating day for lovers of BLeeM and friends' fantasy storytelling. *affectionate*
rocket-flash
2025-02-26 07:05:39 +0000 UTCThis was something that struck me as well—Suvi has an understanding and often explains that her companions will "do what they do" and that Suvi has no sway over their decision making, but damn do the consequences come rushing in this time when Ame goes off on her own again and does not listen to Suvi when she tells Ame "please be discreet do the discreet thing we are in a situation where we need to be discrete"
chopstuck
2025-02-26 07:05:33 +0000 UTCThis is a really cool take! I don't know if I fully agree, but I too believe that Steel exists in a grey area in terms of citadel loyalty (like I don't think she would have ratted Suvi out immediately like Silver did). I'm personally hoping her brand of grey is influenced by some genuine brainwashing/indoctrination, coupled with a gaes/memory spell that has clouded her recollection of Suvi's parents' death, and a genuine love for the parts of Suvi that are rebellious. Steel doesn't come across to me as the most manipulative parent figure all things considered, so I would guess that if she's made Suvi into a rebellious protege, it was mostly because that's the kind of person both she and Suvi's parents were and less with any expectation that Suvi would rebel as far as she has against the citadel. Maybe I'm naive, but I've taken Steel at her word in all of her feelings about Suvi's rebellion, which is to say I think Steele respects Suvi's choices but still wishes she made different ones a lot of the time.
rocket-flash
2025-02-26 07:03:14 +0000 UTCThat ending made me shout F*** YEAH while driving by myself. Damn, this foe to ally flip is so deserved and satisfying 👨🍳
Ori Ganani
2025-02-26 06:57:24 +0000 UTCEven though I think Silver ratted her out 100%, I'm hoping that maybe they use some extra compulsion to get more details out of him and that he didn't just spill all the beans immediately. I would love for him to be more redeemable than that because it would make it so much sadder, but I guess we'll see if we catch him on the front lines in his new promotion.
rocket-flash
2025-02-26 06:48:29 +0000 UTCHe gives me freedom fighter vibes like fighting in general against tyranny with whoever is cool enough to join him. I would love to know more about the Gaothmai rulers and the kind of issues he had with them that make them different than the empire.
rocket-flash
2025-02-26 06:42:46 +0000 UTCYeah I’m convinced at least one of them (probably Soft? Less compulsive? More likely to survive?) is at the Library with Tephmet
Jordan Charles
2025-02-26 06:40:50 +0000 UTCThe prince gave me the impression that he would be the kind of person who prefers if other people get their hands dirty, and isn't interested in knowing any specific brutalities that aren't relevant to his politics. I imagine having people like Keen around is very useful when you just want something done without blood directly on your hands.
rocket-flash
2025-02-26 06:40:24 +0000 UTCGoddammit! I still suspect that her parents are still alive but are in the near spirit. I think there is going to be some messing around with time because that is something Brennan would do the incredible monster!
Glen Petrofski
2025-02-26 06:37:08 +0000 UTCI hope that once they're able to save the children things are a bit more complicated than "he's a good guy now all the way". I imagine that their paths will diverge after 12 brooks and he might choose a more violent route than Suvi or Ame is willing to stomach in terms of the empire, which would still be really interesting.
rocket-flash
2025-02-26 06:33:12 +0000 UTCI was yelling at Brennan so many times on my second listen!
Trina McDaniel
2025-02-26 06:25:01 +0000 UTCThe fact the yoren sounds and talks pretty similar to jawbone got me on side straight away even if it’s totally different cannon. Cross over when ??
Angus Smith
2025-02-26 06:20:05 +0000 UTCthis is true. but see, my bar was already so low and then silver went EVEN LOWER 😭
Renoku
2025-02-26 06:10:00 +0000 UTCNEED the pod to release a list of characters so i can internalize the spellings of the names MY GOD
Lily Lechler
2025-02-26 05:41:15 +0000 UTCOoooff - what about Andrew Scott?
Sil
2025-02-26 05:37:06 +0000 UTCI've only screamed that much for dice rolls in this podcast. Nat. Fucking. 20. Also, Brennan - "he believes what he is saying"!? NO, YOU NASTY, NASTY MAN. TELL US IF IT'S CORRECT OR NOT 😭
Sil
2025-02-26 05:35:49 +0000 UTCThe choice for the score (not sure what the track would be called, but it's what plays when big moves in dire straits start happening, I'm not skilled enough to know what kind of brass instruments they are) is what gave me the goosebumps 😭
Sil
2025-02-26 05:29:27 +0000 UTCI frickin' KNEW there was something going on with Yoren! Also I think this episode was one that really highlighted the lack of depth Ame's and Suvi's relationship has. I really feel that if it had been Eursulon that had asked Ame to do "literally anything but touch the tarp" she would have listened because they've got years of bonding between them. Ame and Suvi knew each other for a few months as small children and it SHOWS with how often Suvi has practically begged Ame to not do something and Ame turns around to do it the second Suvi turns around. Suvi hasn't been perfect by any means, but at least she's trying to be better. Them calling themselves "true friends" has been absolutely WILD to me from the start because, imo, they've barely been normal friends. I'm curious and looking forward to seeing how, if at all, this might get addressed in near future episodes. Loved this episode! But on God if Fox gets hurt I'll riot
Sable
2025-02-26 05:12:50 +0000 UTCIt's a magical compulsion
Lojaan
2025-02-26 05:00:01 +0000 UTCI know the character is in no way French, but with Brennan describing him as looking like Sam Reid my brain is overwriting and line and hearing it in Lestat's voice. It's such a him line
Pyrohydriscence
2025-02-26 04:50:34 +0000 UTCWell that's not going to stop the swooning over Eioghorain any time soon!
Pyrohydriscence
2025-02-26 04:47:46 +0000 UTCGuys oh my god this episode
JB
2025-02-26 04:46:01 +0000 UTCFinally listened to the episode and GOD DAMN I WAS RIGHT
Jordan Youssef
2025-02-26 04:44:11 +0000 UTCBrennan is so good. The Fox giving Ame advantage is gorgeous.
JB
2025-02-26 04:36:13 +0000 UTCHey I am BACK to say I LOVED THAT REVERSE BEAUTY AND THE BEAST MOMENT FOR SUVI. "*Step in to the light.*" And then SUCKER PUNCHING Yoren for all the years of long repressed *everything*. Yoren is hot as Flaming Hot cheetos- Brennan took Tolkiens "Looks foul, Feels Fair" and RAN WITH IT. How dare he be this hot. Love it, 11/10. There is always another side to the story, love getting the scalding tea - BUT FIRST: SUVI HERE GETTING HER PRINCESS MONONOKE ARC. - SEND IN THE SHAPECHANGERS TO DISTRACT WHILST YOU GO IN TO SAVE THE CHILDREN. NOTHING gets a group of hot, shape-changing vigilantes on board like "They're KEEPING CHILDREN." What else really matters when there are kids in danger? Even the Great Bullfrog has those morals. Brennan knows his group so well. He had Erika/Ame dead to rights with the trap in the square. The traps were set up to perfectly hit each point that should be an immediate trigger to the character - and depending on who fell for the trap, it would of course force Suvi to give herself up to even ATTEMPT to lessen the consequences for her friends. If only Ame had listened! Then again, Ame has yet to be caught until now, but never did I think the universe would roll it back in such a way - Clever Girl, Brennan/Keen. It was painfully poetic and sinister and - AH, Keen has become the GRADE A Current Main Villain of the arc. especially for Ame (very curious, especially if Keen manages to ESCAPE this arc alive, if Ame may fall to a bit of wickedness after such events happened for her and Fox.) Eursulon, 11/10, learn from the wizards: if you wait, you will win. He's expecting you to be impatient, and when you do not proceed as he plans, he will mess up! NOW - about that tea... "I deny it." What a guy, you have to appreciate his brevity. No rolls needed, that man did not kill those parents. And from my spine erupts a black, marbled tower. As Orthanc emerges, my singular, red-eyed gaze sweeps across the land to fixate squarely upon the Wizard Steele. "*MA'AM, I WOULD LIKE AN EXPLANATION.*" Now I wait, feral and giddy, for the eventual Mother/ Daughter face off in a Mustaphar-like scenario of fire and lava (but instead is mud and water, shout out 12-Brooks) where I am (hopefully) vindicated of my suspicion of Steele with a heart-shattering reveal where she DID have a hand in Soft and Stones demise, OR Brennan continues to death-by-1000-cuts me and Steele tells us NOTHING and we are all INFURIATED at her and will have to search for the truth a different way. Either way, shout-out to Brennan especially - I learned so much. You took us to an impossible, dead to rights lowpoint and I was here like "It's good Eursulon is locked in and playing it careful, but how TF are they going overcome THIS?" And there you were, waiting in the wings with Madonnas "Like a Prayer" on standby with Yoren like "Don't you even worry." Please dont let this be the last episode of the Arc, I need to know how this ends.
MsAlleyCat
2025-02-26 04:34:56 +0000 UTCWow that’s quite a hot take that I want so desperately to be real.
Devon
2025-02-26 04:34:28 +0000 UTCtwelve… Sixteen… NINETEEN on the die
JB
2025-02-26 04:34:15 +0000 UTCThank you, I didn’t want to look it up 😂
Devon
2025-02-26 04:27:17 +0000 UTCI haven’t been this enthralled by a podcast since TAZ Balance— and this goes harder and deeper by far. I’m not even reading fantasy novels right now because this is the best fantasy series out right now.
KRMorris
2025-02-26 04:25:50 +0000 UTCYep. Whooo, they do work that magic!
KRMorris
2025-02-26 04:17:14 +0000 UTCMy husband has been saying that since the very beginning and I was like um no that’s ridiculous. 😩😩
Katie
2025-02-26 04:14:04 +0000 UTCFr I need my fox plushie 😩
Katie
2025-02-26 04:11:51 +0000 UTC@agiddysea—Nah my good Dude, I think you’re right. This theory is so solid and I love it. I truly hope you’ve “stone cold guessed” what Brennan is doing with Steel.
KRMorris
2025-02-26 04:11:32 +0000 UTCBest. Episode. Ever.
Katie
2025-02-26 04:09:21 +0000 UTCThat’s why they had to lay traps. Because they couldn’t scry her
KRMorris
2025-02-26 04:07:57 +0000 UTCWhoa. This is such an important point to remember. I’m getting some wild-bad “So what I told you was true” glowing-Obi-Wan-in-Empire Strikes-Back vibes. Two weeks can’t come soon enough
KRMorris
2025-02-26 04:04:53 +0000 UTCEiorghorain (I had to look it up)
Aunty Kristin
2025-02-26 04:01:11 +0000 UTCcould you remind me what a gaes is?
Lauren
2025-02-26 03:55:09 +0000 UTCI LOVE THIS DAMN STORY. Another ep that made me feel every emotion. Brennan is truly flexing his narrative muscles with this pod, and our players are expertly in step, and even switching our who is leading who at every turn. Such clutch moves all around. SPOILERS: I am so glad we got a Eioghorain reveal AND he seems... good? I haven't trusted Steel for a whiiiiiiiile now and this ep pushed me to believe we have a Mother Gothel situation. She could even be in the league of whispers at this point, since of course the citadel would want to keep an asset like her that once worked with troublemakers under their hand. IDK what I will do waiting two weeks for this chapter to continue. Keen needs punching asap!
thedragonllama
2025-02-26 03:55:07 +0000 UTCI want him to understand just who he fucked with before he’s ripped apart. Also, while typing this I’m remembering the wizard that Grimoire just straight up ATE that one time and now I feel zero guilt…
KRMorris
2025-02-26 03:54:27 +0000 UTCKeen is my new least favorite villain
Devon
2025-02-26 03:50:59 +0000 UTCHow do you actually spell Yorens name again?
Devon
2025-02-26 03:50:20 +0000 UTCIdk it was a bad trap that Suvi/ Aabriya caught right away and I’m still mad about it lol
Devon
2025-02-26 03:48:57 +0000 UTCI missed this detail but thank you for giving a reason to replay the episode again
Jenny
2025-02-26 03:48:31 +0000 UTCDid we expect him to be any different though? Suvi took a risk that was bad :(
Devon
2025-02-26 03:47:55 +0000 UTCI was doing dishes while listening and I kept yelling “kill him!” “Kill him!” And my partner had to come check on me.
KRMorris
2025-02-26 03:45:30 +0000 UTCBrennan as the Fox: “can I sing louder?” Me on my second listen: BRENNAN YOU BITCH!
Devon
2025-02-26 03:44:54 +0000 UTCAs a firm and avid believer of uncle yoren from the beginning, let me just say hahaha HAHA ha. thank you very much
Zackary Kirk
2025-02-26 03:44:42 +0000 UTCI’m so worried about Fox. I love him
KRMorris
2025-02-26 03:43:57 +0000 UTCI think Gaothmai have been subjugating spirits or banishing them as well in order to get a leg up on war, and Eioghorain is a full on Spirit Knight and is trying to come to defense of the Spirit world, and protect the balance. Bet you that he knows Grimoire.
KRMorris
2025-02-26 03:41:21 +0000 UTCAnother episode leaving me in tears :) awesome :) keep it up
Molly Gould
2025-02-26 03:41:00 +0000 UTCYOOOOOOOO
Emily
2025-02-26 03:39:23 +0000 UTCYes and i am NOT WELL about it 🤢
KRMorris
2025-02-26 03:38:53 +0000 UTCWhy yes I have listened to this episode all the way through twice today and am contemplating a third. I thought I was all chill about the upcoming pause on this story but I can see the cliff coming fast and I know this crew is going to take us all right over it! 🫣🤯💥
Jenny
2025-02-26 03:37:04 +0000 UTCThis. ^^ i think you’re spot on. I hope Suvi’s parents, at least one of them, is still alive. I want Suvi to still love and trust some part of her past.
KRMorris
2025-02-26 03:36:45 +0000 UTCHoly crap.
Ben East
2025-02-26 03:35:08 +0000 UTCBanger episode - I also screamed "LETS go" into the void at the final line - but for some reason that I can't articulate, part of me is a little sad that Yoren isn't a bad guy? I truly don't know why that disappoints me
KamasiFitzgerald
2025-02-26 03:34:26 +0000 UTCI want them to still be alive real bad. I have a feeling Teffmet knows them.
KRMorris
2025-02-26 03:32:19 +0000 UTCthe whine was one thing, but the subtle *CRACKING SOUND* was SO brutal 😭😭😭
KamasiFitzgerald
2025-02-26 03:31:55 +0000 UTCYES! LET’S GO!
KRMorris
2025-02-26 03:29:34 +0000 UTCOh I forgot he described him as East Asian in the prologe my bad. But like personality wise, I still think it works.
Mad Jax
2025-02-26 03:24:47 +0000 UTCFYI, brennan said that he kinda looks like Toshiro Mifune. Ofc you can imagine him however you'd like, I certainly do for a lot of characters!
Bingus2277
2025-02-26 03:21:45 +0000 UTCI was listening to this in my cubical and said out loud “oh no oh no!” When they were like “your senses are no longer in the fox” and my coworkers were really concerned. Had to resort to sending my friend “fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck”
River Pruitt
2025-02-26 03:19:57 +0000 UTChe's SO hot!!!!!!!
Renoku
2025-02-26 02:50:28 +0000 UTCHEY. I'D LIKE SILVER TO FIND A SHORT BRIDGE. AND WALK. this episode was amazing im broken inside but also yayyyyyy we have the new hottest character
Renoku
2025-02-26 02:49:44 +0000 UTCCame here specifically to post exactly that. Holy crap, what a way to end the episode. I don't want to wait for the fireside chat ep.
Paul Barkley
2025-02-26 02:46:00 +0000 UTCIf you come into a space with disrespect, don't be surprised when people point it out or question that. idk what rhetoric you're talking about tbh, feel however you want! I'm asking you to consider being more intentional about what you say on this forum. Your personal frustrations aren't a justification for acting nasty. If it wouldn't be appropriate or fair to say to someone's face, keep it off their page! Not hard. 🫠
Emma41420
2025-02-26 02:30:13 +0000 UTCGod fucking damn it, l hadn't paid attention to the spelling of Lydwyn, have you straight up called the river "Magic Sound"!?
Sil
2025-02-26 02:27:26 +0000 UTCThe fox whine got me! It got me so bad the poor fox!!!! I have a lot of feelings about Ame falling into the trap. I wanna be mad, but it WAS a good trap. But I'm so proud of Eursolon NOT falling for his. Quest fever is potent but it's not always what's needed.
Dezzi
2025-02-26 02:05:53 +0000 UTCHEY WHAT THE FUCK
Ren Challacombe
2025-02-26 02:00:45 +0000 UTCListened to the episode walking through Edinburgh’s Old Town to meet a friend up at the parade ground/carpark/lookout outside the Castle so we could try to see however much of the planetary parade that was visible with the city’s light pollution. (Turns out everything visible to the naked eye could be seen!) But it felt very magical and mysterious to walk through, whilst listening to WBN, when the whole place was nearly devoid of other people. Started imagining it was the approach to the ruined castle above Twelvebrooks. Or that the square with the shrine stand off was just down a little from the ground we were sitting on. It’s very cool when the place you live in lends itself so readily to the fantasy stories that you’re drinking 🥹🏰🌌💙🤍
Beth Fraser
2025-02-26 01:55:08 +0000 UTCEIOGHORAIN IS A GOOD GUY AND HE’S HOT, W FOR THE HORNER CORNER
bails 🌀 witch of the what the fuck
2025-02-26 01:48:34 +0000 UTCI was almost broken, yet here I stand. Great episode again.
Ryan Higgins
2025-02-26 01:48:08 +0000 UTCI laughed with tears in my eyes and goosebumps all over my body, “Want some help?” “Yes.” And then shouted out loud, “LET’S GO!”
William Hansen
2025-02-26 01:42:57 +0000 UTCwait noooo keen cant be hot 😭
disastersappho
2025-02-26 01:34:17 +0000 UTCHOLY CRAP THIS IS INSANE
disastersappho
2025-02-26 01:32:51 +0000 UTCHelluva episode! (I mean, they all are, but...)
Whitney Avalon
2025-02-26 01:31:08 +0000 UTCI gotta say I'm absolutely gagged rn lol
Joey Sawyers
2025-02-26 01:11:55 +0000 UTCLoooove when Brennan gets to play just an out and out villain. DELICIOUS
Susannah B.
2025-02-26 01:05:21 +0000 UTCCouldn't stop picturing Sam Reid's Lestat
Susannah B.
2025-02-26 01:00:39 +0000 UTCScreaming
Cristobal Cruz-Garcia
2025-02-26 00:44:52 +0000 UTCAlso, very happy Ame, and at least on a physical level only Ame, is feeling personal consequences for her actions, especially after Suvi’s warning. It feels like every other time Ame has done something that isn’t strategically wise/was unnecessarily risky and it blows up, other people suffer the brunt of the consequences.
Puppymaster
2025-02-26 00:25:56 +0000 UTCToday’s tinfoil conspiracy: Soft & Stone placed gaeses on each other! When they realised how truly fucked the Citadel is, they vowed to hunt down those responsible, no matter what
Jordan Charles
2025-02-26 00:22:39 +0000 UTCAll I can picture for Jorren is Jeffery Dean Morgan Edit: I forgot brennan described him as east Asian in the prologe, but I stand by personality wise Jeffery Dean Morgan style of character Edit 2: also Found out his name is spelled Eioghorain, which my American ass was never gonna be able to guess in 1000 years.
Mad Jax
2025-02-26 00:18:55 +0000 UTCMy brain is stuck on figuring out Keen’s inane comment. Is he saying generally the stuff she spoke about, the children, was inane, which tracks cause he is a horrible person. Or is he saying those things were inane towards the empire, meaning high ups know about the children and either directed it or don’t care.
Puppymaster
2025-02-26 00:17:23 +0000 UTCI don’t know whether to blame Brennan or Taylor for having to hear the fox’s whine but I’m VERY UPSET with one of them 😭😭😭
Shannon Leimbach
2025-02-26 00:17:14 +0000 UTCSuddenly that speaking mirror setup feels very different
Jordan Charles
2025-02-26 00:15:04 +0000 UTCYeah, full Lucius Malfoy fr
Jordan Charles
2025-02-26 00:14:37 +0000 UTCIt is midnight and I just screamed ‘LET’S GOOOO’ into the darkness
Jordan Charles
2025-02-26 00:13:56 +0000 UTCI am losing my MINDDDDD over here!
Jordan Charles
2025-02-26 00:13:22 +0000 UTCSo, anyone else wondering if Soft and Stone have been bound in some way and aren’t even dead?
Beth Fraser
2025-02-26 00:05:14 +0000 UTCAbsolute peak
FatherNature
2025-02-26 00:04:20 +0000 UTCReally! Last time I checked it was pretty bare , I gotta look again
ceeg
2025-02-26 00:01:51 +0000 UTCLast 3 minutes, gripping my counter top jaw slack into immediate fist pumping screaming hell yeah!! What a fucking RIDE!!
Julie
2025-02-25 23:58:13 +0000 UTCWhat an incredible episode! Also really enjoying the Eursulon and Vandal dynamic haha. Dreamteam. I hope they get up to shenanigans together next episode.
Charlotte
2025-02-25 23:54:16 +0000 UTC1st off "You want some help?" Me- shivers, then cackles "Suvie is no longer a wizard of the citadel, she is a wizard of the spirit!" 2nd off Need to hear the fireside chat after this one!!!!!
Gabriel Madera
2025-02-25 23:52:24 +0000 UTCWhat the fuck, I am mentally and emotionally and spiritually overwhelmed right now in the best way possible
Adarsh Nednur
2025-02-25 23:49:06 +0000 UTCKeen is a Jason Isaacs character.
Brandon Carbaugh
2025-02-25 23:46:58 +0000 UTCHoly crap. This episode. So good.
Gone Fawn It
2025-02-25 23:45:01 +0000 UTCAMAZING episode 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾!! I'm totally speechless; I'm so freaking excited for the next episode AND the Fireside Chat for this one!! ((Also, can't wait for the fox plushie to be safe and sound in my arms because what the hell Brennan 😭😭????))
Sydney Jay
2025-02-25 23:41:12 +0000 UTCThe fandom wiki is pretty good, it has lots of useful time stamps.
Pyrohydriscence
2025-02-25 23:38:40 +0000 UTCI'm definitely thinking about all of the compulsion spells available to wizards - interesting idea about the wound. Maybe they popped a magic doodad in there to keep a spell on her. I was also thinking about the Chalices, wondering if the wizards would have their own version.
Pyrohydriscence
2025-02-25 23:37:35 +0000 UTCId love to be a fly on the wall next time suvi and Steel talk :D
I Davis
2025-02-25 23:37:18 +0000 UTCSo glad it's not just me that thought that 🤣🤣🤣
Sydney Jay
2025-02-25 23:36:44 +0000 UTCBrennan has talked at length about how he feels re; morality on a scale of black to white, and how he feels you do have to represent those shades in their extremities. I agree with you in that I think Steel is an *excellent* example of a grey area, even missing so many pieces of the truth that all we can make are collages and guesses. Perhaps putting too much stock in the wisdom of Grandmother Wren in a changing world, the quote (paraphrasing) she says about Steel that insists she will always do the right thing- within the confines of her loyalty to the Citadel- seems to be the read with the most weight to it thus far. I genuinely believe she was conflicted when she compelled Suvi, and we have seen her struggle to wrap both hands around the *good* of the Citadel. The hellbent march for progress, innovation, to become more than a single person ever could alone- just like Suvi's parents, she risked everything (with the same conditioning Suvi had) to root out the danger in her home and found out it was sanctioned. I can't help but be unable to decide if she genuinely believes Eioghorain was in on their disappearance, if someone perhaps steered her down that trail, or if she is simply someone who has fought so hard for the betterment of her home and thus embedded herself so deep within it that all she could do as a love letter to her lost sister was make sure her daughter never fell prey to the same lumbering machine of Empire. Either way, a big goddamn bravo to the gang for this one. Steel is one of my favorites because she has always struck me as too classically good as a mentor- not that we haven't seen complexity from her, but safe to say that the only reason she hasn't proven that her money is where her mouth is happens to be because she's always three or four days behind her wayward daughter. I love Suvi deeply, but I think if I were Steel, my hair would be all white by now- no matter which way her ethical obligations swing her.
Benny Bee
2025-02-25 23:35:38 +0000 UTCInterestingly, she never actually said "he killed them". She said he was responsible for their deaths, and Eioghoran himself said he betrayed them. Steel said that if he had been fighting at their side there was no way he would have walked away without them. He bailed because he thought they were just going to get themselves killed and didn't know when to walk away. I don't trust Steel at this point, but I'm wondering if they both describing their own version of the same event.
Pyrohydriscence
2025-02-25 23:33:56 +0000 UTCI am howling. OH MY GOD WHAT A TURN IF EVENTS. How, we, yep. All of that, all of that just happened! I can’t wait for the talk back because woooooooow. Brennan on so many levels woooooooow. Also, Taylor the second the music started playing in the final scene with Suvi I had goose bumps until the closing music started playing. (I am so mind blown that I think I need a nap.)
abardnamedkate
2025-02-25 23:33:33 +0000 UTCthank you! i had to stop my walk to text my friend about it, and all i got back from her was “NNNNERRRRRRDDDDDDD” which was not the solidarity i was looking for. i’m glad to find it here!
deirdre
2025-02-25 23:26:10 +0000 UTC*tinfoil hat* the leadership of the Citadel (possibly Silence himself) ordered the hit on Soft and Stone. Compromised Steel to carry it out, though to what extent and by what means remains to be seen. Could be that she actually turned, could be that she was placed under a Geas. Could be that her head/eye wound was a result of being coerced and/or having her memory wiped, or that the wound was inflicted by Soft and/or Stone. Either way, if Soft and Stone were that compromised, I think the Citadel's decisions regarding fast-tracking Suvi to the leadership track, not to mention everything that earned the "princess" comments from several others, was equally a reflection of Suvi's talent as it was a means of keeping her as close as possible and trying to out-condition any rebellious instincts/tendencies she may have picked up from her parents.
Andrew Winstead
2025-02-25 23:24:27 +0000 UTCI'm curious if Steel did lie or if she was lied to. If the group was made, I can't help but wonder if Steel knew what happened to Suvi's parents and turned their daughter's rage and blame to Eioghorain, or if this was a "clean up" job from higher ups in the Citadel and Steel was also manipulated? I have a sinking feeling it's the first, especially with Grandmother Wren's slight warning about her (paraphrasing, but something like, "you can always trust her to do the right thing, within the confines and limitations of her loyalty to the Citadel,") at the beginning of the story.
Benny Bee
2025-02-25 23:23:41 +0000 UTCthank you so much 🙏
Senseless Fool
2025-02-25 23:22:37 +0000 UTCTaylor/ Jared... you are nasty, nasty sound editors 🤣 THE. STRESS. OF. LUCK. ROLLS. HURTS. DMS. WHO. ARE. PLAYERS. AS. WELL.
Sil
2025-02-25 23:22:15 +0000 UTCyeah
Shannon
2025-02-25 23:22:08 +0000 UTCHello! The Google form for submitting q's is pinned to the front page FAQ :)
Shannon
2025-02-25 23:21:50 +0000 UTCFirst of all I wrote this without the benefit of hindsight so don’t come at me with that Monday-morning-quarterback rhetoric. Second of all I can be as satisfied or dissatisfied with the premise as I want, just because you love 100% of it doesn’t mean I can’t hope for more from the characters and these very experienced players 1% of the time. This episode was unquestionably a banger, and in the heat of the moment of first listening I was just a little distraught.
Jake
2025-02-25 23:20:19 +0000 UTCthis is so damn niche and so funny, you're so right for this. I was wondering what felt off about that small fragment, I genuinely thought I was crazy. The 12 y/o horse girl and stablehand in me just reached through time when I read this comment like, OF COURSE! You're so rad for noticing this.
Benny Bee
2025-02-25 23:19:57 +0000 UTCI heard it as them splitting up both from Eioghoran and each other to chase leads but I guess it was ambiguous
Pyrohydriscence
2025-02-25 23:15:32 +0000 UTCMan, I love it when a MC is like “whelp, I’m dead now, there’s no use in maintaining the facade of propriety anymore”. The joy I derived from that whole interaction almost makes up for the horror at the traps Keen set up for Ame and Eursalon. I swear, if the fox dies, I’m throwing hands. And oh boy, it was so cathartic to see Suvi finally go “They’re stealing CHILDREN.” Her justification machine is fully broken, there’s no excuse or filter left to see the Citadel as anything other than exactly what it is.
Maddie Moreland
2025-02-25 23:14:01 +0000 UTCOh, and Steel killed Suvi's parents
Joshua rassier
2025-02-25 23:10:20 +0000 UTCAnother Banger!!!!! Congratulations, Congratulations, Good Game, Good Game, Good Game, .... Literally another 11 out of 10? like wtf?! 11/10 Hello, dearest Taylor and Jared, guess what? I am having *This-episode-is-too-short* syndrome. PS: This is a very very good thing! What ever is going on... I am happy to support it. - One Happy Fan!
Stefanucci Mozzarella
2025-02-25 23:07:51 +0000 UTCI knew Brennan was going to get that dog
Joshua rassier
2025-02-25 23:07:16 +0000 UTCalso. unrelated but does anybody know where we can submit questions for the fireside chats?
Senseless Fool
2025-02-25 23:05:38 +0000 UTCCan somebody please make a big detailed fan wiki I do not remember a fucking thing about the League of Whispers
ceeg
2025-02-25 22:53:53 +0000 UTCdilf unlocked
ceeg
2025-02-25 22:51:58 +0000 UTCholy moly. i cried when eioghorain gave suvi some water; i love that he turned out to be super kind!!! this episode is SO GOOD YALL
Senseless Fool
2025-02-25 22:50:49 +0000 UTCAnyone else thinking Steel is the reason Soft & Stone are dead now....
The Wizard Spite
2025-02-25 22:43:17 +0000 UTCThe baddy is appropriately bad. " I don't like you not doing what I want. " Concise words for definitive evil. It also makes me reevaluate the Prince for maintaining such a creature amongst his entourage. Though perhaps such details are not up to the Prince. It is highly likely if not assured that Keen would make himself indespenseable in that he could not be gotten rid of without unacceptable collateral damage, if not out right someone that would be impossible to remove. I can imagine the kinds of contingencies the man has in place to maintain his power and privilege. Yeowch
Johnathan Arriola
2025-02-25 22:42:22 +0000 UTCAlso, get your theories in now: what undercover cold war is Eioghorain fighting? My current guess is he’s liberating and recruiting Grenau to come help the Shapechangers unseat the Great Gaothmai Houses
The Wizard Scourge
2025-02-25 22:40:35 +0000 UTCWooo, Brennan definitely brought his A-game this time around! Multiple moments in the second half of the ‘sode left me straight up with my mouth agape. Also Taylor? More like Tay-LORD! The score was fucking phenomenal!
The Wizard Scourge
2025-02-25 22:37:06 +0000 UTCThis was such a brilliant episode! I loved Aabria's voice acting at the end 🐅 That "Yes." felt like such a war-cry, ferocious and determined. Beyond hyped for 12 Brooks 🤩
Emma41420
2025-02-25 22:31:42 +0000 UTCthere are many things to say about this ep but it feels covered by the many (justified) screams. stellar work taylor, as usual. you nailed the dread and fear vibes so well i felt physically ill! (complimentary) however, i’ve gotta say the 12 y/o horse girl in me got heavily distracted when brennan said they were at a canter but the horse sfx was a trot (disappointed)
deirdre
2025-02-25 22:31:06 +0000 UTCDo what?? Make brave, in-character, interesting, cooperative storytelling choices that progress the story forward 🤔 Would you have preferred an episode where they're not intercepted and Suvi didn't have the opportunity to converse with the shape-changers, thus getting more help to liberate the children being trafficked? Y'all know the team reads these comments right, so there's no good reason to make weird snide passive-aggressive remarks about players consistently delivering on the premise of the podcast 🙄
Emma41420
2025-02-25 22:26:20 +0000 UTCI thought he was saying that Soft & Stone split ways with Eighoran, not with each other?
Kit
2025-02-25 22:23:26 +0000 UTCAlso yeah the puppy whining noises, horrifying
Kit
2025-02-25 22:22:38 +0000 UTCSilver's a company man, I feel quite sure he reported out of his own volition
Kit
2025-02-25 22:21:56 +0000 UTCahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, how dare you make something this good!?!? ahhhhhh
the witch of weft and warp
2025-02-25 22:21:38 +0000 UTC🙃 truly
Kit
2025-02-25 22:20:05 +0000 UTCAND LISTEN TO SUVI!! PLEASE.
Shalea Rhodes
2025-02-25 22:19:50 +0000 UTCThe triumphant laugh I just let out at the end. Holy shit, this one was stellar.
Kit
2025-02-25 22:17:49 +0000 UTCHoly $!&@‘ Taylor. The music on the button. What an ep.
Patrick
2025-02-25 22:17:49 +0000 UTCAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Losing my MIND
TētēKura
2025-02-25 22:16:45 +0000 UTCSCREAMING
Zaki
2025-02-25 22:12:54 +0000 UTCOMGODS this was sooo good! I'm so worried about the fox!
Sara Elizabeth Nesbit
2025-02-25 22:08:25 +0000 UTCSteel is super sus still
Jack
2025-02-25 22:05:59 +0000 UTCThis episode had me feeling like I'd been at the movies watching the epic of the decade. So. Many. Feelings. The moves, the stakes, the scoring, the revelations. The last fucking "you want some help?". I litterally jumped and shouted.
litenkolgrill
2025-02-25 21:57:26 +0000 UTCIM SCREAMING WWWWWAAAAAAAATTTTTTT
Moss V
2025-02-25 21:53:02 +0000 UTCThis is the one of the most tense pieces of media I have ever experienced. Wizard Keen is horrifying and such an amazing villain. You all knocked it out of the park with this one. I imagine the quality of work from everyone listening collectively dipped to zero because we were so engrossed in this episode.
Shaggy GM
2025-02-25 21:52:12 +0000 UTCInsane peak episode all around. Congratulations to all involved
Beau Rydman
2025-02-25 21:47:55 +0000 UTCThis episode was soooo good, also new DILF acquired at the end!?
Tea
2025-02-25 21:45:05 +0000 UTCKeen is so grossss oh my gosh I just want to see Suvi utterly squash him
Ashley
2025-02-25 21:38:38 +0000 UTCI'd love for that to happen expeditiously.
bluebluebutton
2025-02-25 21:35:19 +0000 UTCOh my god, what an episode. I reacted loudly so many time, couldn’t help it! People around me, looking at me like “what is happening to that girl?” World beyond numbers is what is it !!?
Amer
2025-02-25 21:34:14 +0000 UTCGASPED AND SCREAMED truly perfect ahhhh
Ashley Teatum
2025-02-25 21:31:26 +0000 UTCSteel has already shown that she’s willing to operate outside of the Citadel’s strict structure, so I don’t see how it makes sense to assume she’s a strict loyalist to the institution. The biggest example is the Acadator—she, Soft, Stone, and Grandmother Wren formed their own group to root out what they thought was corruption inside the Citadel. That’s not the action of someone who trusts the system completely. And then the Court of Whispers revelation? After years of working in secret, they finally brought these so-called criminals in, only to find out the Citadel had sanctioned the whole thing. That had to be a moment of massive disillusionment for all of them. Steel might be loyal, but it seems more like she’s loyal to the idea of what the Citadel is supposed to be, rather than the actual institution as it stands. That’s a pretty big distinction, and one that makes me think she’s not as rigidly devoted to the Citadel as some people assume.
Agiddysea
2025-02-25 21:26:53 +0000 UTCalso the Society of Whispers being a total red herring for agents working against the Citadel is some FBI operation shit. The conspiracy is to make a fake conspiracy to hide the fact that there is actually no conspiracy and all the bad stuff is just part of the institution without the influence of outside actors.
irisilmaril
2025-02-25 21:12:54 +0000 UTCWell, dammit (affectionate), that made me cry. I didn't realize how hard a reunion with Eioghorain was gonna hit me
SapphoDyl
2025-02-25 21:06:41 +0000 UTC3 moments that made me yelp with excitement! "Why can't I hurt you" hit so hard and I definitely screamed before everyone else screamed! Amazing audio engineering btw
Alayna Wiggins Steffy
2025-02-25 21:04:52 +0000 UTCFingers crossed that someone can drag him to the Spirit Realm and hand him off to Orima or the like.
Sean Britcher
2025-02-25 21:03:43 +0000 UTCI dont think that Steel killed Soft and Stone, but i absolutely believe that her loyalties, especially now, lies with the Citadel first and foremost. She'll bend the rules to protect Suvi to be sure. But she is an instrument of the Citadel.
Sean Britcher
2025-02-25 21:01:39 +0000 UTCHOLY FUCK THIS SHIT IS TOOOOO GOOOOOD. Fucking Keene being just an utter piece of shit, and Suvi meeting a BLAST from the Past, fuck two weeks is too damn long, I look forward to this pod more than I do my damn paycheck!
DaShawn Coleman
2025-02-25 20:59:44 +0000 UTCAlso protects her from Great Spirits and scrying from the Citadel iirc.
Sean Britcher
2025-02-25 20:58:15 +0000 UTCTrying not to cry in this Uber going to class. I LOVE THIS PODCAST SO FUCKING MUCH
Liu
2025-02-25 20:58:09 +0000 UTCHOOOOOLYYYY SHIIIIIIIIIT
Liu
2025-02-25 20:57:04 +0000 UTCKeane is maybe the creepiest most chilling villian ive met in a LONG time, thought I may throw up from excitment and fear. Y'all are TOO GOOD! The acting, the sound design, the soundtrack! I'm so not normal about this episode
cnidarian casper
2025-02-25 20:56:18 +0000 UTCHe is an amazing antagonist. I hate him SO MUCH, and we've really only had two scenes with him.
Sean Britcher
2025-02-25 20:54:43 +0000 UTCMY JAW IS ON THE FLOOR omg screaming!!!
cnidarian casper
2025-02-25 20:53:46 +0000 UTCI knew Suvie would have to go against the empire at some point because Brennan hates organized structures of power and could never create something like the citadel without making his plays goals be to take it down, but holy
The BepBop
2025-02-25 20:49:58 +0000 UTCMe hours later: OH FUCK the TITLE
Joshua Jones
2025-02-25 20:49:09 +0000 UTCThe way I screamed "YEAH!" and jumped up with a fist at the end. Also you don't FUCK WITH WITCHES. That man fucked around and is gonna find out so fucking hard.
Jazz
2025-02-25 20:47:39 +0000 UTCI am being so normal about this episode!!!!! What?!?!? I’m not screaming?!?!? You’re screaming!!!!! 😱
Taylorea
2025-02-25 20:38:08 +0000 UTCNot. At. All 🥵
Nandi Kayyy
2025-02-25 20:36:56 +0000 UTCShe got the nat 20 when she needed it!
Elizabeth Boskey
2025-02-25 20:35:05 +0000 UTCThis will remain true in my heart even if it's proven false. I can't take it otherwise
Amaya Booker
2025-02-25 20:33:56 +0000 UTCI'm on minute 44 and I'm physically shaking. Everything up till now was stressful and terrifying but this moment is just different. My rage right now... oh no, honey.
Bean Planter
2025-02-25 20:33:42 +0000 UTCThe sheer number of intonations one can scream fuck!!!!! in during this episode....
Elizabeth Boskey
2025-02-25 20:33:28 +0000 UTCAabria's affect on that line... :: Chef's kiss::
Elizabeth Boskey
2025-02-25 20:32:34 +0000 UTCSteel playing the long game will be what keeps me sane. As far as how long she's waited without telling her, it seems like they're very often ships passing in the night. Like if she wanted to tell her after the name cloaking, she got immediately deployed. They were gonna talk when she was back and available and then Ame and Eursulon fled. And yet another 'keep it on ice' went out the window lol. It would definitely make sense for Steel to wait until she'd gotten some experience outside the Citadel to tell her the truth given how much Suvi has matured and become more calculating since getting in the field
Amaya Booker
2025-02-25 20:32:21 +0000 UTCThis. Precisely.
Elizabeth Boskey
2025-02-25 20:31:24 +0000 UTCSame here too. That was my horrifying thought
Elizabeth Boskey
2025-02-25 20:29:29 +0000 UTCLMAOOOOO
Halestorm
2025-02-25 20:28:45 +0000 UTCI was driving home with my dog and I screamed so loudly I think I scared her. Holy shit. And that was after I was cursing Brennan in for giving me the feelings about "you’re not dead yet and every day you get to figure out how you’re gonna do something in the horrible world that’s out there" ... which felt really trenchant right now. Oh my Gods. I was not prepared for that many feelings over the course of that episode. Wow
Elizabeth Boskey
2025-02-25 20:28:33 +0000 UTCoh i am so happy they are allying with the Shapeshifters. they are so fucked up and eat people but they are by far my favorite faction. they generally oppose/and are by the monarchies of Gaoth and the ongoing colonial encroachment of the Citadel on the Spirit. They remind me of historical terrorist freedom fighters like the IRA? Instead of car bombs they turn into monsters and that is just so so rad. I fucking knew Eioghorain didn’t kill her parents. He was simply too rad to be a straight up villain.
irisilmaril
2025-02-25 20:24:31 +0000 UTCWe don't know for certain that Eioghoran cursed Ame, just that the curse smelled the same as Eioghoran. I think that's probably another mage practicing a similar discipline to Eioghoran. I will point out tho that Steel was able to fabricate that smell, and her story about it being to remind Grandma Wren doesn't make a lot of sense. Why a perfume on the page rather than an illusory script note? I personally don't trust Steel a single millimeter...
rio
2025-02-25 20:22:45 +0000 UTCI’m literally screaming!!! The fox in the grasp of this awful wizard. Brennan WHYYYYYYYYY……. This is such prestigious storytelling.
Cocomoose
2025-02-25 20:19:02 +0000 UTCGuys, if Brennan kills this fox I'm gonna throw up right now
Ciara Caines
2025-02-25 20:12:15 +0000 UTCSuvi's rebel arc has been like: 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 2, 9999999
Brandon Carbaugh
2025-02-25 20:02:41 +0000 UTCThis episode was NOT good for my blood pressure, lol. We love some unexpected allies! Let's go, Suvi! BLAZE DOWN THE REBEL PATH!
Brandon Brewer
2025-02-25 19:58:09 +0000 UTCMaybe! Suvi identified the bile and asked for the source - Brennan described Eioghorain
Gillian Moser
2025-02-25 19:56:24 +0000 UTC🗣️ I LOVE YOU ALL AND YOUR BEAUTIFUL BRAINS 😭😭😭 I literally screamed out loud when Eioghorain said "Want some help?" Very good
Nandi Kayyy
2025-02-25 19:55:50 +0000 UTCWas it Eioghorain?? I assumed it was the Man in Black but maybe I missed something along the way
Elizabeth Agresta
2025-02-25 19:54:02 +0000 UTCThis makes me wonder if the spell smell(tm) is indicating the source of the curse, or the nature of the curse. Is it possible Eioghorain is cursed in the same way as ame?
clafford
2025-02-25 19:53:14 +0000 UTCThe only way it would SORT OF be OK is if (as someone suggested upthread) Steel knew it was a cover-up and has been quietly biding her time and molding Suvi into a sleeper agent who will eventually be activated/radicalized into avenging her parents’ deaths and destroying the empire. But Suvi still deserves to flip out on Steel for hiding that from her for so long if that is indeed the case.
Elizabeth Agresta
2025-02-25 19:51:34 +0000 UTCTAYLOR THE ENDING NOTE
clafford
2025-02-25 19:49:50 +0000 UTCeven my aggressively aroace brain was like "...oh? [eyebrow waggle] okay, handsome..." when he showed up
James
2025-02-25 19:48:21 +0000 UTCYeah, I think Brennan spelled it out in one of the Fireside Chats in arc 2 (don’t quote me on that, may have been in an actual campaign ep)? There’s just a lot of Es and Is where you aren’t expecting them. 😂
Elizabeth Agresta
2025-02-25 19:47:57 +0000 UTCI cannot stress this enough but I hate keane more than anything
Kpapi
2025-02-25 19:47:10 +0000 UTCGOOSEBUMPS CHILLS Multiple times but wow at the end too… And the emotional rollercoaster of the trap sprung… the threatened death of the fox… Silver’s betrayal…
AyunderfillVonScotchguerd
2025-02-25 19:46:11 +0000 UTCYeah, to follow up on the other commenter—the way the sleep spell works is you roll a number of d8s (5d8 at 1st level) and whatever number you get is the amount of hit points’ worth of enemies that are knocked out, no saving throw required. I’m guessing he upcast it (additional 1d8 per level) to ensure he would definitely hit Ame’s hit point total (because the odds of rolling 23+ on 5d8 are slightly below average). That’s why Brennan asked Erika how many hit points Ame had.
Elizabeth Agresta
2025-02-25 19:46:00 +0000 UTCREBEL SUVI HAS BEEN AWAKENED!!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 oh man, this confrontation in Twelve Brooks is gonna be so great, whenever it happens. I guess it kinda confirms Suvi’s worldview, the way she’s always harping on Ame not to trust people, that the moment Suvi opens up to someone other than her true friends, she gets totally burned. I want to believe that Silver was magically compelled to snitch when the prince or whoever realized Suvi and Ame and Eursulon were missing, but I’m not optimistic after his reaction to Suvi’s confession at the end of last ep. 😕 Also Taylor those little puppy whining noises under the fox being choked out by Keen were SO MEAN HOW DARE YOU 😭😭😭 if he’s not OK by five minutes into the next ep I think Ame is well within her rights to blow up the butcher shop and everyone in it js
Elizabeth Agresta
2025-02-25 19:41:38 +0000 UTCWait but Eioghorain was the one who cursed Ame in chapter one! Why would he want Ame to forget about being the witch of the world’s heart?!? Ep. 14
Gillian Moser
2025-02-25 19:39:10 +0000 UTCOh man, I so want this to be true because if Steel was the one who betrayed Soft and Stone it’s gonna break my friggin’ heart. At any rate, a very difficult confrontation is definitely in the cards for Suvi and Steel, regardless of whether Steel is the good or bad guy here…
Elizabeth Agresta
2025-02-25 19:33:55 +0000 UTCHold Monster would be the obvious choice but it could just ne a house rule or spell reskin to allow Hold Person to work on animals.
Matthew B
2025-02-25 19:24:57 +0000 UTC“I’m dead so why don’t we have every fun conversation simultaneously.” Damn Aabria!
Katherine Rose
2025-02-25 19:23:14 +0000 UTCThe end of every single episode that has released in this chapter has given me chills
Cole
2025-02-25 19:20:03 +0000 UTCI am absolutely freaking out! So much new information to process including the detail - Stone and Soft split up. Steel one hundred percent lied about how they died - maybe one of them got away?
Pyrohydriscence
2025-02-25 19:18:44 +0000 UTCSame!!!!
Katherine Rose
2025-02-25 19:15:15 +0000 UTCWHAT IS THIS WHY IS THIS HOW IS THIS WHERE IS THIS WHEN IS THIS WHY ARE WE DOING THIS WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS
Antareeksh Deb
2025-02-25 19:11:13 +0000 UTC"It's okay, we broke up."
Felix
2025-02-25 19:06:52 +0000 UTCI hope Joren and the werefolk rip Keen to pieces. When he get's punched on the chest by a bear that will show him some humility.
Archon of Commoragh
2025-02-25 19:06:04 +0000 UTCOh my god, this episode wrecked me in the best possible way! Well done to everyone, and I can’t wait for next week’s Fireside!
Brennen Hilgendorf
2025-02-25 19:05:35 +0000 UTCYou and me both.
Archon of Commoragh
2025-02-25 19:05:16 +0000 UTCHold Monster perhaps.
Archon of Commoragh
2025-02-25 19:04:31 +0000 UTCSeconded
Cordial
2025-02-25 19:04:00 +0000 UTCWhat spell do we think Keen put on the Fox when he started singing A Wandering We Will Go? We know the effect (paralysis), and presumably the trigger (voice/proximity to the trap), but what's the spell?
Chelsie K
2025-02-25 19:03:38 +0000 UTCI want it on record that If steel killed soft and stone i will be Very Upset !!!!!!!! (Ive never wanted to be wrong more in my life)
Ruvi
2025-02-25 19:03:28 +0000 UTCAAAAAAAAAAAAAA (and I can’t stress this enough) AAAAAAH!!!!
Saïda Siam
2025-02-25 19:01:19 +0000 UTCG O D S THAT ENDING !!! i s t g i Could Not Breathe that was so cool!!!
Ruvi
2025-02-25 18:58:38 +0000 UTCi think its the pendant her mom made her
expandingnebula
2025-02-25 18:56:58 +0000 UTCOB-fucking-SESSED not me internally screaming with impatience to hear more. this arc is so damn good!!! Suvi’s growth/radicalization! Getting closure! Ame’s increased patience and Eursulan’s clarity is just so so so so good makes me wonder if part of the ritual at 12 brooks is about creating another desert? to expand the empire?
expandingnebula
2025-02-25 18:56:05 +0000 UTCI SWEAR TO ALL THE GODS, if STEEL ends up being the bad guy, I WILL SOB so fucking hard. Amazing episode!
LuChiChi4
2025-02-25 18:51:12 +0000 UTCY'ALL ATE THAT! I'm not over exaggerating when I say this is my favorite story of all time. I love that we're getting Suvi's evolution in this arc and it's SO good. "You want some help?", I can't help but picture a camera panning around Suvi's head. Every memory about her parents, Wren, Steel, and Eioghorain replays in her head. The camera settles, focusing up in a super tight shot. She has absolute wolf eyes. "...Yes."
Jo Lee
2025-02-25 18:47:14 +0000 UTCGood Evening Madame Suvi !
Safa Ashkan
2025-02-25 18:45:21 +0000 UTCI'm halfway through and I'm shaking, my stomach is in knots , my heart is RACING 😭
Nandi Kayyy
2025-02-25 18:43:47 +0000 UTCI came here to point out this exact moment!
Nathan Spring
2025-02-25 18:40:13 +0000 UTCevery part of this episode has me SCREAMING
Lauren
2025-02-25 18:39:45 +0000 UTCI started listening at work and nearly shrieked when Brennan had them rolling luck. Fortunately I was in the car when Keen showed up so my very loud profanity was not heard by anyone.
Pyrohydriscence
2025-02-25 18:38:29 +0000 UTC"I don't like when you don't give me what I want" is such a shamelessly evil little-shit response! I loved it. All the worst things for Keen forever and ever, amen
Tish.Tosh
2025-02-25 18:30:29 +0000 UTCIs there something implied that if Eioghorain can't hurt Suvi then Steal can't hurt Suvi? Would that be why Steal raised Suvi to be a super soldier in her image?
Kate Fisher
2025-02-25 18:30:13 +0000 UTCFist pumping the air at the end of the episode. Why does the other wizard sound like Hans from inglorious basterds lol
J
2025-02-25 18:27:23 +0000 UTCI always knew the story steel told Suvi was not the full, or hell even accurate one. Citadel wizards in their majority have been gaslit by this institution since their induction. Silvers remarks about not knowing what he would do with other relationships and obligations was so telling. I’ve also secretly thought that Steel became the Sword because she perhaps killed Suvi’s parents for their treason. That’s worst case scenario but to me it makes sense. A sword is a symbol of justice. And the citadels idea of justice solely protects them as an institution.
Devon
2025-02-25 18:26:27 +0000 UTCThen again I tend to be wrong about much of this. So take all this with a grain of salt I suppose.
Agiddysea
2025-02-25 18:23:16 +0000 UTCOkay, I admit it—I'm a Steel apologist. For a long time, I genuinely believed she was just a strict but loving mentor, guiding Suvi with the best of intentions. I thought the whole "Steel is a manipulator" angle was overblown, a misreading of a complex but ultimately kind character. But now? I think Steel has been playing a long game this entire time. What if Steel has been deliberately nudging Suvi toward rebellion, subtly setting her up to turn against the Empire while keeping the Citadel’s watchful eyes off her? What if every "kind" act—every piece of encouragement, every hard truth—was carefully placed to push Suvi toward questioning everything she’s been raised to believe? Think about it: Steel let Suvi go see Grandmother Wren, even though she had every reason to keep her away. That’s a thread pulling Suvi toward the other side of magic. Steel told Suvi that Eoighorain—the man she believes is responsible for her parents’ deaths—is on the battlefield, knowing full well Suvi would chase that down. That’s not just information. That’s direction. Steel sent Suvi to company with Ame and Eursalon, two people who were never going to reinforce Citadel loyalty. When Suvi ended up on the battlefield instead of following orders, Steel didn’t chide her. No reprimand, no consequences—just a quiet acceptance of where Suvi had placed herself. Keen outright pointed out that Suvi was treated like the princess of the Citadel, allowed to act however she wanted. What if that wasn’t just nepotism? What if that was intentional leeway Steel carved out for her, so Suvi could make mistakes, make choices, and forge her own path without immediate consequences? What if this wasn’t just Steel being a tough-but-fair mentor? What if this was Steel making a choice, years ago, that to protect the child of the woman she considered her sister, she had to play the long game? She couldn’t openly defy the Citadel—not without getting herself killed. So instead, she created space. She fed Suvi just enough information, gave her just enough freedom, knowing that one day it might pay off. Steel has always trained Suvi to be the perfect Citadel wizard—disciplined, loyal, powerful. But what if that was just the cover? What if the real goal was to prepare her to survive defecting? Steel knows how dangerous the Empire is. She’s high-ranking enough to understand what happens to those who break away. So what if her entire approach has been about covertly radicalizing Suvi, all while making sure it looks like she’s just doing her job? Maybe Steel isn’t a monster, and maybe she isn’t just a loyal soldier either. Maybe she’s something in between—someone playing the longest con, raising a girl into the perfect Citadel war mage, all so that when the time comes, Suvi has everything she needs to burn it all down. I thought people were wrong about Steel being manipulative. Now, I think they were right—just not in the way they thought.
Agiddysea
2025-02-25 18:22:01 +0000 UTCI hate you all (complimentary) got me emotional out in public, yet again. gave a much too loud gasp at the fox's bone-crunch & whimper (how dare you Taylor). literally fist-pumping at the "you want some help?...... YES" exchange. thankfully I'm so keyed in on the story I can only perceive a few of the crazed head turns I create. can't wait to do it again in 2 weeks 🙃
Bardic Mockery vs. Vicious Inspiration
2025-02-25 18:16:00 +0000 UTCMy neighbors must be concerned about me because the way I kept yelling at this episode and I'm not even halfway through
James
2025-02-25 18:15:48 +0000 UTCOkay Aabria was right, motherfuckers with harpsichord solos when they walk in the room are bad news.
Brandon Carbaugh
2025-02-25 18:10:34 +0000 UTCFull predator handshake moment between Suvi and Eioghorain is so good haha
Jack Jones
2025-02-25 18:09:22 +0000 UTCSpec-TACULAR. The storytelling chops you all have. I'm in awe. It's like experiencing the plot of an Oscar-winning movie but fully improvised as it's being shot. There is nothing else like this show on the face of this Earth.
Joe Camberwell
2025-02-25 18:05:06 +0000 UTCNAH MAN THIS SHOW GOES HARD
Jack Jones
2025-02-25 18:03:54 +0000 UTCevery episode that comes out becomes my new favorite as soon as i listen, oh my god this was fantastic!!!
Trish K
2025-02-25 17:49:25 +0000 UTCI did the same thing
Oliver Denny
2025-02-25 17:44:09 +0000 UTCOh man that horn blast after "YES" knocked my fucking socks off. Hell yeah Taylor!
Sarah Neima
2025-02-25 17:41:52 +0000 UTCAnd now, with vindication, and sheer DELIGHT: FUCK. YOU.
Adrienne
2025-02-25 17:36:24 +0000 UTCThe Wizard Keen's cover-my-drink energy SKYROCKETED in the most disturbing, distressing way. He bound, gagged, and magically drugged Ame after threatening to have her killed or beaten to unconsciousness. Truly vomit-worthy.
bluebluebutton
2025-02-25 17:33:58 +0000 UTCThe way I screamed YES! at the end, right before Suvi did 😭 I'm going to have to learn to spell Eioghorain without googling it every time now, aren't I?
xatlern
2025-02-25 17:32:10 +0000 UTCI just wandered around my house, headphones on, slack jawed the whole hour and a half! And that final music was🤌
Molly Sisson
2025-02-25 17:30:55 +0000 UTCThe only way I can stomach such betrayal is if at least one parent is secretly alive and imprisoned somewhere. I can't have her lose literally all of her family. I'd never recover!
Amaya Booker
2025-02-25 17:26:52 +0000 UTCAgreed. And, it seems characteristic of the young Witch of the World's Heart. I would love for Ame to play a bit more strategically, but I do think it's realistic for someone so trusting of the world. It does pose some very interest character and relationship development between Ame and Suvi.
Chelsie K
2025-02-25 17:24:32 +0000 UTCBy the Great Bear soo much frustration and boondongling on how good this is!
Ron Ron
2025-02-25 17:21:15 +0000 UTCThank you!
Trina McDaniel
2025-02-25 17:19:21 +0000 UTCThese episodes always leave me in tears, its so epic!!!!!!
Bubbles
2025-02-25 17:18:59 +0000 UTCI said the same thing, out loud in my kitchen, to no one but my cats.
Trina McDaniel
2025-02-25 17:16:25 +0000 UTCThis episode felt so short! The pure joy and excitement on my face as he said, "Want some help?" Ahhhhhh! (Also, short time listener, first time commenter... One of my partners introduced me to WBN in November, I immediately fell in love, joined the Patreon [my first time on Patreon too], and listened to nothing else until I caught up sometime in January, and for a while, I noticed that my internal monologue was in Brennan's voice. That was fun.)
Trina McDaniel
2025-02-25 17:14:50 +0000 UTCScreaming, crying, and throwing up. The end of this episode fueled me with the power to punch through 10 concrete walls. 10/10
Cade Mackey
2025-02-25 17:13:47 +0000 UTCIt's been so interesting watching Suvi go from mildly subversive choices to straight up betrayal of the empire's cause, allying with enemies of the citadel because there's more important things than the rules. I genuinely love it. That's growth
TPK_light
2025-02-25 17:12:19 +0000 UTCOH MY GOD!
Aydris Drake
2025-02-25 17:11:33 +0000 UTCI say this with love, and loving the move but AME PLZ CHILL ONCE
Matthew Grossman
2025-02-25 17:09:10 +0000 UTCTheres no way she doesn't know!
Myka Ozlynn
2025-02-25 17:03:24 +0000 UTCFIRE!! God damn!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥 Thank y'all for this brilliant series.
Chris Lindgren
2025-02-25 17:02:54 +0000 UTCEioghorain truthers unite! Hot Old Man Revolutionary Fighter!?!?
Myka Ozlynn
2025-02-25 17:01:37 +0000 UTCIf anything happens to our cinnamon rolls I will riot!! Also image the bad guy nor actually being the bad guy.
Michelle Spurgeon
2025-02-25 16:59:42 +0000 UTCOnce again Ame, this is not a place of breakfast!
L J
2025-02-25 16:58:45 +0000 UTCMy face also made lots of fun expressions listening to this which my colleagues were probably worried about
Emily C
2025-02-25 16:55:43 +0000 UTCI literally screamed as soon as Brennan said "You want some help." The vibe, the score, chills ran up my arms like electricity. SO good!
Stephanie Godin
2025-02-25 16:55:38 +0000 UTCAh dang, okay
Emily C
2025-02-25 16:54:39 +0000 UTCSomehow laughing and crying at the same time
Shelby Welby
2025-02-25 16:52:41 +0000 UTCSo does Erika
Kevin Goodwin
2025-02-25 16:50:22 +0000 UTCThis was a baller episode, my heart rate is through the roof but this was such a baller episode
Rafi
2025-02-25 16:50:05 +0000 UTCThis was fucked up
Anondo Banerjee
2025-02-25 16:48:24 +0000 UTC"Want help?" Enemies to allies! Enemies to allies! ENEMIES TO ALLIES!!!
Bob Chapman
2025-02-25 16:45:53 +0000 UTCBless you! I need to listen to the episode again for details and the info I was looking for is right here. Thank you!
Erin
2025-02-25 16:45:45 +0000 UTCI AM SCREEEEEAAAAAAMING. The lore drop this episode was JUICY AF. Once again, thank you most sincerely for sharing your skills, giving of your time, and talents as storytellers with us.
Erin
2025-02-25 16:43:46 +0000 UTCLFGOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!💜💜💜💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Corey Lynn
2025-02-25 16:42:48 +0000 UTCAgain, with (affectionate) feeling: FUCK YOU
Adrienne
2025-02-25 16:41:59 +0000 UTC"It's okay, we broke up" SCREAMING, AAAAAAAAAAAAHA
Claire
2025-02-25 16:38:52 +0000 UTCThe League of Whispers was thought to be a group of wizards trying to undermine the Citadel from within and cause its downfall. As we've learned today they were trying to shift the focus unto presumably less ethical magical endeavors. Soft, Stone and Steel were part of a group that called themselves the Acadator, who secretly tried to root out the League and basically undermine the underminers. Most of the lore info on this comes from Ame's flashback with Grandma Wren in episode 15, if I remember correctly.
Marije
2025-02-25 16:35:44 +0000 UTCWith (affectionate) feeling: FUCK YOU BRENNAN
Adrienne
2025-02-25 16:34:34 +0000 UTCThis episode was an attempt on my life, I’m on the FLOOR
Maya Duffy
2025-02-25 16:33:42 +0000 UTCCannot wait to hear this episodes Fireside!🐆💯🖖😎
Ryan L.
2025-02-25 16:32:33 +0000 UTCYes! The spelling is seemingly relevant to both where he comes from and his lineage but also has roots in I believe Irish and Gaelic language/history!
Mack Whaley
2025-02-25 16:31:52 +0000 UTCI KNEW IT. Steel you have so much to answer for! Also WBN soundtrack for sale when?? I kept getting deep into it and thinking I was in RoTK. Absolutely incredible.
Ari Crossby
2025-02-25 16:29:44 +0000 UTCIs that how you spell his name???? I thought this whole time it was Yorin
Rina the Floof
2025-02-25 16:28:32 +0000 UTCGod this episode made me wanna throw up from all the anxiety😂😂😂
Emily R
2025-02-25 16:27:50 +0000 UTCBeing in a public place and not able to stand up and cheer at the end is the hardest thing I’ll do this week. YES TEAM!
Mari and James Holt
2025-02-25 16:22:50 +0000 UTCSleep is a spell with no attack roll or saving throw
Rover Bernhard
2025-02-25 16:20:30 +0000 UTCEVERY EPISODE IS THE NEW BEST EPISODE HOLY SHIT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Rina the Floof
2025-02-25 16:20:10 +0000 UTCAlso Eioghorain capturing her but not recognizing her is so fucking funny
Mack Whaley
2025-02-25 16:18:49 +0000 UTCAAAAAAAH fuck yes let's fuckin go Suvi (so worried for Ame) - also what happened to the shield that Eurselon cast? Maybe Keene overcame it?
Emily C
2025-02-25 16:18:41 +0000 UTC“Speak with Animals” WHAT A TITLE
Rover Bernhard
2025-02-25 16:18:22 +0000 UTCI AM CHEWING ON THE WALLS
Rover Bernhard
2025-02-25 16:18:10 +0000 UTCWow wow wow y’all are excellent. How does this story continue getting better and better each week wow
Mack Whaley
2025-02-25 16:18:05 +0000 UTCWhat the actual fuck my dudes!!!
PhillyMoe
2025-02-25 16:14:48 +0000 UTCThe griddle was HOT for this one
Swaff
2025-02-25 16:14:42 +0000 UTCYo can anyone remind me what the league of whispers deal was? Been a little while lol
The jowler
2025-02-25 16:12:57 +0000 UTCJudge
Wizard Susurrus
2025-02-25 16:10:12 +0000 UTCTAYLOR MOTHERFUCKING MOORE
Wizard Susurrus
2025-02-25 16:09:58 +0000 UTCThe wizard Keen is such a creep. I'm so happy to see Brennan pointing out Ursulon not rushing in after Ame as a huge point of growth he was clearly not expecting. Kick his ass next week
Isabella Theodoratou
2025-02-25 16:00:49 +0000 UTCOh my God that was so good. I thought the dramatic pauses were going to kill me but it just kept getting better . Two killer endings in a row. Amazing job by Taylor and the team for making the ending of the last 2 episodes make me jump and cheer.
Isabella Theodoratou
2025-02-25 15:56:33 +0000 UTCnow the hard part is waiting 2 WEEKS😭😭😭😭😭😭
Nicholas Savage AKA Eursulon’s knight in training
2025-02-25 15:54:56 +0000 UTCKeen sucks. Count frolo type behavior
Zachary Burkhalter
2025-02-25 15:54:52 +0000 UTCHE SAID "YOU WANT SOME HELP"??!!! TAKE ME TO TWO WEEKS FROM RIGHT NOW IMMEDIATELY
Emma R Jorgensen
2025-02-25 15:53:32 +0000 UTC"YES", we love you Aabria!
Jack Flynn
2025-02-25 15:53:28 +0000 UTCFUCK THAT WAS SO GOOD
Nicholas Savage AKA Eursulon’s knight in training
2025-02-25 15:52:45 +0000 UTCMaybe the best episode so far? I’m going to listen again from the start bc what???
Udoka
2025-02-25 15:52:38 +0000 UTCBrennan you son of a bitch I'm in
Bill Butler
2025-02-25 15:51:11 +0000 UTCLove Erika's pause, "whimsically throwing up!" Lolol
ScoutHooligan
2025-02-25 15:50:53 +0000 UTCThis has nothing to do with anything right now but I'm gonna lose it if Soft & Stone's deaths were Citadel coverups that Steel knew about the whole time
Amaya Booker
2025-02-25 15:47:50 +0000 UTCGod I love an episode where I'm cussing Brennan out every 10 minutes. Fantastic work as always team!💛👏🏾
Jasmine A Golphin
2025-02-25 15:42:40 +0000 UTCWow. What a twist! I’m excited for this unusual and unexpected team up. This does increase my suspicion of steel even more.
Joshua
2025-02-25 15:40:56 +0000 UTCMIND BLOWN! This is AMAZING! I need more! How am I supposed to wait two weeks for the next episode?
Treowyn
2025-02-25 15:39:48 +0000 UTCI can’t stop screaming!!!!!!
Mack Whaley
2025-02-25 15:37:05 +0000 UTCJust finished the ep- screaming into my pillow
Alethea
2025-02-25 15:36:59 +0000 UTCI'm only 40 minutes in and I am SO STRESSED WTF 😭😅
Corey Lynn
2025-02-25 15:32:45 +0000 UTCEioghorain!!!!!!!!!!!
Nicholas Savage AKA Eursulon’s knight in training
2025-02-25 15:31:11 +0000 UTCOH MY GOD.
Udoka
2025-02-25 15:30:04 +0000 UTCHoly moly this episode!!!! This episode. I can't even.
Laura DW
2025-02-25 15:28:39 +0000 UTC"I thought she told you not to frighten her child" !?!?!?!? QUEEN SHIT QUEEN SHIT QUEEN SHIT
Amaya Booker
2025-02-25 15:23:07 +0000 UTCWhy does Erika always do this…
Jake
2025-02-25 15:17:38 +0000 UTCI guess I'm just holding my breath and closing my eyes yeah... it's summer where i live, and my hands are hella cold
Raquel Albert
2025-02-25 15:10:14 +0000 UTCAme thought she was still in her ghibli movie having the fox sing like that 🤦🏾♂️
Nicholas Savage AKA Eursulon’s knight in training
2025-02-25 15:09:33 +0000 UTCBRENNAN.
Udoka
2025-02-25 15:07:43 +0000 UTC'Roads are like graves, they are made of dirt and the space you fill'?!?!? jeeeeezus chrisps,I'm excited AND scared to listen. That sentence is the hardest thing I've ever heard.
Corey Lynn
2025-02-25 14:54:17 +0000 UTCYou spoil us😭we don’t deserve this level of quality so consistently😭❤️
Gary Sifuentes
2025-02-25 14:43:18 +0000 UTCYay💯🦋😻
Ryan L.
2025-02-25 14:41:18 +0000 UTCPlayers creating their own whimsical moments to push back against the pressure applied by the GM! 🤌 OMGOMGOMGOMG!!! What an episode! I DID NOT SEE THAT COMING. NONE OF IT. Episodes like this are why this crew is understood to be the best in the game.
Matthew B
2025-02-25 14:35:06 +0000 UTCLet's go get these kids, y'all.
Gotholi
2025-02-25 14:34:01 +0000 UTCHolding my breath and closing my eyes like a kid trying to handle a vaccine shot every goddamn roll. Jesus Christ that is torture
Raquel Albert
2025-02-25 14:32:12 +0000 UTC'I'm gonna Keen that Fox!' Brennan you monster! (I love you)
SvenTS
2025-02-25 14:31:43 +0000 UTCLet's goo! Also whoever writes the episode descriptions, 10/10.
Benny Bee
2025-02-25 14:28:59 +0000 UTCTHE DICE ARE TELLING A STORY!!! But seriously Aabria needs a new dice set
Sea Moose
2025-02-25 14:16:47 +0000 UTCOoo I’m excited!
Billy Smith
2025-02-25 14:15:17 +0000 UTCAnd allow me to preemptively say BRENNAN, WHAT THE FUCK? Just need a comment about dice rolls and I think we have everything covered. 🤣
Michael Mills
2025-02-25 14:14:25 +0000 UTCTaylor. Taylor. STAHP. You’re making the rest of the pod production world look like hacks.
Keir Hansen
2025-02-25 14:14:21 +0000 UTCTime for whimsy
Boo
2025-02-25 14:13:24 +0000 UTCWell I WAS going to go to bed but....
Michael Mills
2025-02-25 14:12:45 +0000 UTCPreemptively saying WHAT AN AMAZING EPISODE I WAS ABSOLUTELY FLOORED BY TAYLOR’S EDITING
Jordan Youssef
2025-02-25 14:11:14 +0000 UTC
