[PUBLIC EPISODE] The Wizard, the Witch and the Wild One: ep033 "The Witness"

I am fully just here to say I have NEVER related to anything more than "I can't even have a mental breakdown".

MiddlestSis

I love Ame, but the frequency that she blatantly lies to creatures that cast 9th level spells is CRAAZYYYY 😂🤣

Gregory James Glaister

On a 2nd time through relisten– I wonder exactly what would happen if Suvi was with Ame in her conversation with Mirara

Melody Snow

Ugh Ame is such a witch checking in on Eursalon after the presentation (which I love and was absolutely the emotionaly intelligent move). I (who always play a wizard class) want to know HOW Tefmet knows that the Citadel is aware of everything.

Erin Michelotti

LOL- Was the long-kept mug a tiny echo of the forbidden respect Mirara once had for Wren? Or straight up a trophy where she feels like she got one over her? Because it's WAY funnier if it was trophy

Anonymous Developer

What a banger

Jack Monaco

I’m with you. Suvi has nothing to apologize for at all here. Her reasoning is sound and her friendship to both Ame and Ursalon has been proven through actions over and over again. The same CANNOT be said about Ame or Ursulon. They have failed to speak to her part in stopping Giold Mage Morrow and freely accept to a of aid and succor from The Citadel and then turned around and condemned wizards as a whole. They’re mediocre at best. Ame would have been screwed without Suvi and then, on a stupid and pointless lie that damaged her socially and magically with the other witches she threw that victory away and then came back to the keep and took out her failure on Suvi.

Josh H

That really interesting. I have always trusted her too! Why do you mistrust her?

Josh H

I think that the Coven of Elders are just as arrogant as they accuse the citadel of being. Next, I agree with you. I don’t know how they come back from this. Ame seems to willingly forget all the aid and help she gets from Suvi and the other wizards of the Citadel. And clearly operates with her own prejudice there. If the wizards treated her the way the Coven has been treating Suvi, she’d have reason—but the Citdel has been nothing but an ally to Ame and she didn’t defend that one iota when the antivolist level his evidence-less accusations. I for one can wait to see the witches and the MiB absolutely break themselves on the walls of the citadel.

Josh H

Next episode update when???

Alec Simkiss

also it BROKE MY HEART to hear suvi say "just because you don't have a family" to ame like oh man... ow my heart

Karo Zhu

im a staunch suvi apologist here like aabria plays such a beautiful moment where she breaks down and she brings up good points! theres a part of me that thinks the audience is more likely to side w the spirits bc of the breadth of literature about the fae/natural world as an underdog (which is part of this too) and suvi's reasoning from her perspective is incredibly sound (and even if she is being unreasonable, i think its incredibly consistent w suvi's character to "owe" a person/institution and that they have to repay that debt or else suffer consequences and it pains my heart to see it

Karo Zhu

Also the citadel

William Krise

the music was GORGEOUS this episode. the "witches going to war" suite at the end of the episode was perfection!!!!

aspiring_bog_witch

That citadel indoctrination runs DEEP

William Krise

Holy shit the organ on the geass reveal

William Krise

The fucking echo on "RAN!!!". 😬

LSky670

This episode is a lot to process. I did not need that blow so soon after their victory. You could have at least let Suvi get some sleep first... I did not need that much emotional whiplash at work today. Fantastic storytelling all of you but ouch. Those fights were rough to hear.

Stephanie Tietze

🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹✨

BomVenusaur

I don't like how my trust in Steel is being tested... I've been so dismissive of anyone who has questioned her moral standing 😭

natasha

It’s a march in 4/4 but I wanted it to have a waltz feel. Glad it worked! Go listen to some Shostakovich and Prokofiev’s waltz suite if you want some similar vibes.

Worlds Beyond Number

This is essential backstory for everyone defending Suvi to remember.

Kevin Christensen

I am so deeply stressed out. I think this right here is the defining point of Suvi choosing who she wants to be — because the love is there and it’s so profound and enduring, but I don’t see them coming back from this if Ame abides by Conclave majority and doesn’t go full rebel and Suvi is still allied with the Citadel (for very understandable reason on Suvi’s part, even if we as the audience know she’s part of the hubris and propaganda machine!) Because there’s no “we’ll rescue your family but the rest have to go” and pushing that through *Ame’s* justification machine — they’re all Suvi’s family. That’s her home. …This is simply too much for level three, Brennan. 😭

Bria A.

Yeah 💯💯💯 for sure in the hammer/nail thing. But Ame also hasn’t been much help in finding a different tool. In other words she’s done them no favors. Ame hasn’t been half the ally to her that Suvi and Steel have been to her. And I don’t think I believe the Witches hype about themselves and the man in black’s inevitability. I think they’re as arrogant as they accuse the Citadel of being.

Josh H

Does anyone know a name for the style of music that plays at the end of the episode when the witches vote? I know it’s not technically a waltz and I’m trying to find more music like it. The rhythm is so interesting to me, shoutout to Taylor and everyone else cause this episode was absolutely fantastic

The Wizard Savvy

I wish Ame would have called bullshit after asking what the citadel uses their power for and Suvi said "making people's lives better". Never mind that she was raised a child soldier and the citadel's might outside of the tower is exclusively used for war, at least as far as we've seen so far. Bombing civilians in Gaothmai? I suppose we don't know who started the war but I can't imagine that's making anyone's life better.

The Not So Great Bear

I just don’t get how anyone can be anything but TeamSuvi at this point. After all the work to get her in the right place by all 3, Ame lies (badly) about something stupid. Immediately subverting the win for NOTHING. She doesn’t say anything to speak about how it was the 3 of them including Suvi who took down the Derrick and the support they got from Wizard Steel. And she doesn’t question what is basically hearsay nor demand that her retinue member nor any other member of the Citadel be allowed to speak to the accusations leveled here with ZERO actual evidence. And then, AND THEN she started yelling at an emotionally fragile Suvi and completely fails to disclose her own ineptitude or incompetence in the prior scene with the Antivolist. She completely fails and the take sit out on Suvi. I’m not sure why Suvi stayed at all. #TeamSuvi can’t wait to see why Suvi would stay with Ame for any reason afterwards.

Josh H

“Strap in”.

Josh H

Thank you WBN team, I wanted to be a blubbering mess before walking into work. And be late, cause I stupidly thought I could stop listening half-way through. Every time I think "this one will be safe, it was happy last episode!"... Also, this is my favorite story, you are all brilliant, and I'm so thankful you choose to produce this with everything else you all have going on. Thank you for continuing this absolute work of art.

Kenocharo

Every two weeks! Welcome to the hell that is waiting. We all are here together by the fireside.

Ryan Fish

My jaw is on the floor. THIS WAS SO GOOD AND I CANNOT CONTAIN MYSELF Masterfully done, all around. Amazing. I cannot gush enough about the art that this episode is

MO

INCREDIBLE performances all around this ep holy shit

Lauren

Man.

Emongaru

I know this probably isn't the place but I just got caught up and now I WANT MOREEEEE!!!! what is the release schedule? God if this is easy info to find and I'm just blind I will have a meltdown Suvi style.

BlueShift

In some ways, maybe none of us ever leave the Children's Adventure 🥲

Adarsh Nednur

I think I’ve figured out the secret of this podcast: we never left the Children’s Adventure. The characters that y’all play so masterfully are crying out for formative experience and I feel like I can hear it clearer than ever now. Erika has absolutely mastered running That Kid who absorbs and reiterates the vibe of the room without actually contributing to it, as opposed to Aabria’s slamdunk portrayal of That Kid who gets mad about any vibe that isn’t completely in line with their own, as opposed to Lou’s bombass portrayal of That Kid who wrestles with the vibe constantly, never fully at peace with it. They are all, in one way or another, That Kid. You cannot really hate That Kid for failing to stand up for what’s right when they’ve forgotten what the ground beneath them really feels like. Y’all do an amazing job with this. You could end it right now and I would still feel like you had provided one of the most painfully, upsettingly real depictions of yet-to-be-matured adults I have ever seen.

Sahidian

HAKEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Dylln

"Buckle Up" masterful, utterly inspiring story craft. The pains are palpable and world keeps marching forward because that is what it does. Having no space for our three protagonists to come to terms with these machinations that are so much bigger than them.....just wow

OrangeHills

1hr 5m holy wowza Aabria 👏 Suvi is such a good character

RiversOblivion

Seconded

Adarsh Nednur

Not sure what exact sound you mean. The March of the Witches of the Coven of Elders doesn’t have any non symphonic or choral instruments built into it. Gramore has a signature sound that’s a hunting horn, and Hakaea is sometimes accompanied by a Bazantar which has resonating strings like a sitar. Could be one of those. The sound from the ghost of Christmas yet to come from the George Scott Christmas carol (wow that’s a deep pull) is iirc, meant to sound like the metal screech of the cemetery gates. We use a lot of bending and bowed metal sounds like that to represent the citadel, and especially citadel magic. You can hear bowed metal almost anytime Suvi casts a spell for example.

Taylor Moore

Ordering one plain cheese pizza for people that don’t really like toppings.

Taylor Moore

I was listening while doing stuff in the kitchen. When that "strap in" hit I had to stop because I knew we were in for a ride and I was likely going to hurt myself if I kept trying to multitask. Wasn't wrong.

Nomade Moderne

Taylor all those years in the albums and music sheets paid off, man. Thank you for doing what you do. 😉👌

Stefanucci Mozzarella

They both got yelled at by Ursulon lol

mumbo

Aabria playing Suvi's pathetic attempt at manipulation and guilt tripping, with hopes of defending herself against the cruel reality of her not having a home... Very human and universal, thanks Aabria, I hate it to bits.

Kole Tomić

i need all of you to know that you are creating the greatest story currently being told in all of the world

Caleb Jinright

Taylor Moore is a God, no, that's not quite right. Moore is the Greatest of Spirits. I appreciate soundscape so much more, he's amazing and I love him!

The Pompous Peasant

Hakaea is a gal that's seen fascism and is in the burn it all down by any means era.

Liz Davis

I'm probably missing something but I'm sure it's citidel vs empire vs galthmy rn and everyone is targeting just the citadel.

Mika Zuki

I love how we have just forgotten about galthmy or whatever it's called. They put a curse on Ren and everyone is like... whatever... Also didn't the king of night try to undercut hacaya??? I thought she would have said no

Mika Zuki

GAGGED ASF AT THE END

Ben Warfield

NM I found the form again finally

Linden Flanagan

Is it too late to ask questions for the Fireside for this ep and do we just put them here now? It's been a while since I've tried to get questions in.

Linden Flanagan

Episodes like this are where I feel Lou's usual restraint really pays off- fucking hell that man's got a set of gravely Grand Organ pipes And When Indry says "with unanimity the power of magic we will wield will be beyond what we have seen from this coven in an age" What do we think the last thing they all voted for with unanimity?

TheloniousPunkyBrewster

Fucking. Withering.

TheloniousPunkyBrewster

I know you guys all love this stuff but after finishing this episode my heart was beating so hard, are you three players like. Are you ok? I know you are! I know you have safety tools and recorded this months ago and all of that and YET.

Linden Flanagan

Okay so you understand that I NEED an entire album of just Taylor's world music, right?

Daniel Wilson

There's almost nothing more tragically relatable than the feeling of "Please - I would give anything to go back in time and do it differently"... which makes it the perfect precision pathos laden punch .

TheloniousPunkyBrewster

As somebody who has done exactly that .. Yes, yes, a thousand times Yes!! This crew knows how to plant narrative seeds, tend to them with intention and care, and as this episode proved in a powerful way boy oh fuckin boy do they know how to harvest!

TheloniousPunkyBrewster

The sudden loss of stability where everything goes out of focus and is replaced by your ineffable deepest fears ... yeah that hit REAL fucking hard in the best way possible

TheloniousPunkyBrewster

I was screaming on the highway in anxiety. Them fighting was so good and also *the worst*. Aabria crying hit so fucking hard

RT

You all heard it here, folks. Worth the $5!

Stefanucci Mozzarella

The rug where Ursulon protects Suvi being the same one where Suvi protected Ursulon made me sob

Issy Prz

Suvi feeling no choice but to defend the people and institutions that just broke her heart moments before because they are what gave her strength and stability absolutely broke me. That sense of duty that she once again pulls herself up to defend and uphold even when fully shattered by what she just discovered, I can’t find words for how much my heart hurt for her in that moment. I can identify with that level of compartmentalization and it was beautifully and heart wrenchingly done. I know the running joke by the fireside is that Suvi can be a bit of a shit. But as someone who has had take broken pieces and try and prove they are steady ground thank you Aabria for showing just how hard that is. The entire project has had me enraptured from day one and I can’t wait to hear more!! Was this the first time the Suvi had any idea about a prophecy that could be still developing around her or had she overheard rumblings growing up and just never made the connection?

Cathie Heyer

Same! I thought they were going to have to call Suvi back and sort of testify to all they did in Port Talon. Turned the tables on me right at the start.

OneGirlPainting

Loved this episode, didn't love how it made me feel in the middle of a shift, keep it up guys.

SapphireBlaze

One of the best episodes. This the pure art of storytelling

Lev Goldiner

This is the kind of art that takes a certain mental, emotional strength and readiness just to hold, feel, and experience as a listener - never mind to create. Thank you all for your loving, beautiful choices in this story and the hard work that has made it possible. These comments go to show both how much everyone appreciates this beauty, but also how deep and true and challenging and meaningful this story is - about humanity, about institutions, about forces of nature and impulse. When you have dozens of people disagreeing from the heart within the world of the story, you've left the sometimes-flimsy characterisations of the average TTRPG game a long way behind. Every week my life is enriched by either the rich depth and wonder of this world and its people, or the joy of Fireside silliness with the fascinating brilliance of all the real humans involved (without intentionally-included, organic, tragic flaws and conflicts!). Also, ow, the conflict of this one hits like a train and needed me to wait for a less emotionally fragile day 😆 and yet, so worth it!

Joseph O'Toole

Hakea getting hyphyyyyy

Ren Dara

Someone really needs to just talk to this woman fr. On a peer to peer let's understand eachother really basis

Divanté Malachi

This isnt true for the others but I distinctly don't think Hakea is clouded by hate though, I think she's moving from necessity and not from emotion when she proclaims for the tower to be torn down

Divanté Malachi

Nah fuck saying it's bad consequences Hakea waking the fuck up is the best win of the series hands down, I need my GOAT on the field making big plays

Divanté Malachi

Where can I find the transcript?

Nadia Barnett

Nah I think Hakea has it, girlie stands at the top of the verse I'm calling it

Divanté Malachi

I feel like you've really cut to the core of the issue between them

Divanté Malachi

THAT ENDING THO

Christopher Underhill

The episode, especially the ending was phenomenal! And that outro *chef’s kiss*

StWindsor

This episode has had me feral. I've been thinking about this series non stop for daaaaaays!!!!! Like just the parallel of Suvi saying you get what you get to the bugs in the childrens adventure, then the get what you get in the kudzoo, and now the witches have voted for the wizards to get what they get o.o

DancingCat

The fight with Ame and Suvi really felt like there was so much under the surface. I can't help but feel like Suvi may be jealous of Ame despite everything. The fact that Ame is only a couple years older than her, has no formal citadel training, has no connections, and YET Ame is in a HUGE position of power. Suvi is still treated like a child in the citadel. She's a wizard sure and has her name, but...she hasn't really gained a new post, more power, more renown. I would really love to hear Aabria's take on this. Maybe the fight /is/ about trust and the Citadel, but Ame said she wasn't going to vote yes so why is Suvi upset? Because Ame gets to make these big decisions on her own without anyone pulling rank? Because Ame can go 'quest mode' and the consequences are that she gets more powerful while Suvi gets yelled at by her mom? idk...I'm feeling some gifted kid meets the real world energy here....

Julianna Richie

MANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN what a banger, an ep that makes me want to go back and listen to the entire series from the beginning to get a better grasp on it!! Feeling so much for all the characters and how they could all be right about what's going on (or wrong!) and how all of their biases and histories and beliefs will pull on them no matter how neutral or logical they believe themselves. And I don't even mean this towards the main cast but all of the NPCs involved now too. I can't wait to see how the truth of everything shakes out, HOW BIG DOES THE ONION GROW BRENNAN

Cheese

“The same rug that Suvi cast her first spell to protect Urselon.” SOBBING CRYING THROWING UP HOW DARE YOU BRENNAN.

Renée Reynolds

Crying, screaming, throwing up, etc. Holy shit you guys.

Megs

FINALLY caught up and ooooh boy what an episode to catch up to! This just gets better and better. When Suvi started sobbing to Eursulon about how it was all her fault he's been stuck in the mortal world and how she'd do anything to fix it, it just got me sobbing along with her.

Pat & Heather

That's a great point, but she knew Ame was going to vote no, and they emphasized that no witch could be compelled to participate against their wishes, so I think she'd know that Ame would live no matter what. I think it's possible that she just doesn't care enough about others to have a dog in this fight, and she thinks it's just as well that the spirits and wizards all fight each other to the death. Plus Mirara said the Man in Black is powerful enough to win on his own, so she might just think, "Why stick my own neck out for a cause that will already be successful?" But idk I can't wait to see what we learn about her motivations

Adarsh Nednur

Personally I think she actually voted her conscience, not just against Indri. She represents the natural world, so maybe she has an objection to the Citadel's machinery and militarization and feels like humanity would be better off returned to a more "primitive" lifestyle. Or maybe as the witch who originally conceived of a coven where witches exist in covenant and make decisions and compromises with each other peacefully (which she was just reminded of and inspired by), she feels that an organization that refuses peace at every turn must be punished or stopped at all costs. Hakea strikes me as too ornery to do the kind of scheming and politicking that just voting against Indri would suggest lol

Adarsh Nednur

There’s so much to love about this episode. But the way that Aabria built up Suvi’s decision to cast Identify on herself and the way Brennan described Suvi’s experience of the Identify spell were just *chef’s kiss* amazing. When Brennan exhaled heavily and said “strap in” my expectations went through the roof. Did not disappoint.

DomPie

I feel like Suvi is a character designed to just keep taking Ls and I feel so bad for her. Can't win for losing. Even when she feels like she's done all the things she was supposed to and all the things asked of her she's still met with such scorn for asking that the same benefit of the doubt her friends give to everything else be extended to her as well. She needs a hurt/no comfort tag. But once again, such excellent storytelling and such compelling characters 👏🏾

Amaya

Ame practicing kindness in the face of several ad hominems this episode fills me with endless admiration of her childhood quest to "be kind" and frustration on behalf of the cruelty towards herself that she lets slide.

bluebluebutton

Easily one of my favorite moments in this episode. 😂 So absurd, but also of course Eursulon would drop whatever he had in his mouth/hands at seeing the discs. It just so happened to be… a sausage.

DomPie

omg, right?! The "awakening from empire" scene was so real and so deeply heart-rending and familiar.

Heydon Hensley

HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!! Ame's line, "You don't need to be wicked or cruel to be wrong." My god, that resonated in my soul. And Suvi's struggle with being indoctrinated into Empire and seeing the lies upon lies she was fed and not knowing what or who to trust. Too real. And Lou (or whoever guest-starred as Lou as Ursalon) grounded the heck out of that scene with Suvi. Brilliant episode. Y'all are weaving incredible stories.

Heydon Hensley

I adore Suvi, and related to her so hard in this episode. I also really realized for all the times I’ve been annoyed at her before, of the 3 of them she’s the one who compromises herself and what she knows for the other two ALL the time and I was so frustrated with Ame & Eursolon for passing moral judgement on her for struggling to do it again when it keeps blowing up in her face…anyway, Aabria is an oldest daughter I just know it.

Breoni Hester

(Light spoil) I LOVE that Ame and Eursulon didn’t let Suvi dominate the argument this time and stood their ground! Incredible episode.

VFD

Gaslight gatekeep girlboss -literally every witch in the coven

The Wizard “Slut”

(spoiler) Did Indri vote no so that if the other witches die in war she will finally have her her one-woman coven?

Nina

I need that closing song in my Spotify NOW TAYLOR

Laramie Hearn

Maybe it's bad luck. Or maybe you set yourself up for failure when you piss off everyone in the neighborhood.

Kevin Christensen

(spoiler) Would Hakea's answer been different if she'd voted before Indri (or Ame)? Is she for war or against whatever Indri is scheming/Indri herself?

Lauren McClendon

My god this episode absolutely wrecked me. 😭😭😭

Evelina Meiklejohn

Man... I respect so hard how Erika plays Ame. But her lie at the beginning hurt my soul. From a storytelling perspective it was so brilliant, but I was like "NO!!!! You just owned these Witches, why did you mess it up!?!?!" Well done Mx Ishii, well done.

Ethan Scott Baird

Appeared right? Say more?

Stefanucci Mozzarella

This was the first episode where I absolutely related to suvi and her struggle and I loved it so much, and I love how you can be angry with characters, and love them the next moment as if you yourself are an old friend. I fricking love this story so much.

shubidoe

Oh, Hikeia, you may have roused yourself from indifference, and you may be vastly wise, but you have still fallen for Indri’s classic “let’s you and him fight” con. It’s probably too late to take an apprentice, but you’re going to need one soon.

Civil Politics Radio dot com (Fridays at 6pm EST on Valley Free Radio)

Whewww as soon as Suvi hit below the belt about Ame's family...! The fact Ame didn't immediately strike back was kind of her tbh 😂

Kitty Stryker

Went from that super fun high from last episode right into the trenches. Another thick ‘sode to chew on till the next fireside

Jon O

Thank you now im crying about that too XD TuT)b

Ruvi

Y e s !! Dump his ass !!

Ruvi

THIS SHOW IS THE GREATEST THING THAT'S EVER EXISTED GODDAMN

Adarsh Nednur

💀🦊😂🌳💖

KSolstice

I see a lot of conversation on here about Suvi and her worldview needing change and growth. But I think the same could be said for Ame. I love Grandma Wren, and I think she was a lovely person and fantastic witch but I think she'd be the first to agree that she wasn't perfect. The way she has handled (or hasn't handled - we don't know) the conflict between human (Citadel?) and spirit so far hasn't worked. They're still ramping to war. So for Ame to talk of sticking with Grandma Wren's path in the face of all that has been set before her*, feels very shortsighted to me...and totally on par for a witch scrambling into their station with a healthy dose of 'watch how you speak of my mother who raised me' of her own (well done Erika). So excited to see how Ame will face this aspect in the obvious need of her own plan. *THE KITTY MUG 😭

The Witch of the Weeping Rain

It took exactly one scene with Mirara by herself to convince me that she's ripe for a redemption arc. Dump his ass girl! You can do better!

Witpending

I know it was 2 secs, but Mirara kept the cup. I know in that scene, she broke it, but Mirara KEPT THE CUP. Given to her BY A CHILD. SHE KEPT IT FOR 10+ YEARS! That small moment of courtesy and kindness and not being utterly afraid from Ame 10 years ago Mirara has held on to ALL THIS TIME. I'm gonna go sit with that for a bit.

The Witch of the Weeping Rain

Indri still wants the station of the World's Heart gone (and others), and that probably means Ame needs to go as well. Mirara is pushing the Pilgrim's agenda for her own reasons though she has plenty of distrust now for Indri (and likely Grimore). Ame would likely need to manipulate the situation again for a vote against the Pilgrim on the grounds he wants to kill her, or seek support with Hakea and Grimore. Unfortunately it seems likely the window for such action has passed. Indri set the vote for the aligning the Coven with the Pilgrim against the Citadel as the last item on the conclave's agenda, and told everyone to leave afterward.

Dominic Corbin

Okay but the MIXING ON OUR FANCY BIRTHDAY SURROUND SOUND SYSTEM???? TAYLOR!!! THANK YOU CHEF!!! I’m only ever listening to this in my living room while commandeering the tv and speakers for the next fifteen years my family can GET WITH IT OR GET OUT

M Dorsey

This was one of my absolute favorite episodes. SO GOOD.

Emma K Carter

Quick question and I swear I'm not a bot. What would 2 nat 20s have done for ame in that persuasion roll?

Yaseen abdul-malik

Can you get Emmys for podcasts?!?!?

Yaseen abdul-malik

I need this fireside ASAP

Yaseen abdul-malik

Just finished and I'm screaming in my car

Yaseen abdul-malik

I know I've said this more than once but it's sooooo9ooooooooooo guuud

Yaseen abdul-malik

Tears, Taylor. ~31min score is... wrenching. Please, a playlist? That we can import to Spotify? 🙏🏻

Sil

Agiddysea

Goosebumps. Had to re-listen to multiple sections because... WOW. Outstanding.

Jactothemac

Just got to the end of the ep and my jaw was fully dropped. Fully blindsided by that twist. Holy fucking shit.

Oophshnart the Probability Demolition Expert

I had to listen to this in chunks due to how amazing and anxious I got but didn’t want it to end. Seriously phenomenal they all are bringing their A+++++++++. Game. Seriously the emotions behind all of this was fantastic. From Suvi identify on her self and just the breakdown I just wanted to hug her. She is so right in so much and just needs to unravel and sleep. Ame being in an impossible decision right now and just the weight on her shoulders to the ups and downs of their friendship. And not having a moment to breath and sleep and a fulll meal to fully process all what’s happen but it’s hard when it’s just back to back. That ending with Hakea thanking Ame and just that turn to let’s burn that tower down. Was just jaw dropping!!! THIS IS WHAT I CALL PRESTIGE STORY TELLING!!!!!!

Cocomoose

Right?! I need like a 5 hour long fireside for them to talk about every detail, too!

Alyssa Landry

ok the music continues to astound me but damn hakaea that was so slay of you to vote like that she’s everything to me

Trish K

I'm still reeling - the MUSIC IS ITS OWN PC AT THIS POINT the lies the identify the fight, the low down dirty things we say when we fight with people we love the crow the MUG

Emily C

woah hakaea

Alana Turnbull

this ep goes so unbelivably hard

Alana Turnbull

not me starting to love marara

Alana Turnbull

Agiddysea

W h o o w e e !!! TAYLOR i can tell marara is your favourite bc the music during her sequence broke my wholeass heart </3 And hakaea's last line???? Worst jumpscare of my life gd

Ruvi

This episode was so good it hurt my feelings 😢

Dijonna Terry

I think I said this exact thing as it ended. Wow. I did not see that coming.

The Wizard Saison

I say this as a compliment with all the love & admiration I can gather: that ending was absolutely fucked.

Charlie

I didn’t get that, I think Tefmet is naturally against the empire & the empire may very well be doing some shady things.

Charlie

THIS EPISODE!!!!! HOW! HOW I ASK YOU! HOW DOES EACH EPISODE SOMHOW MANAGE TO ALWAYS TOP THE LAST! LIKE ALL BANGERS, NOTHING BUT BANGERS! every episode i end with going "OMG THIS IS THE BEST EPISODE OF WWW SO FAR" the score! the Improve! the PLANNING AND WORLDBUILDING DEAR WORLD TREE ABOVE HOW DO THEY KEEP DOING IT! if any of you who make and produce this wonderful peice of art are reading this, thank you so much for the stories you tell, it brings a light to the worlds heart that not even unanimity could top! truly, i cannot wait for the next one. (and to re-listen to all of them 1000 times omg they're so good!!!)

Esper Rivers

FULLY AGREED OMFG

Esper Rivers

So...is Tefmet setting up a war to weaken the Antivolists' rivals and set up a return to power or what?

Jack Westbrook

TAYLOR!!! drop the wizard, the witch, and the wild one score and my life is yours!!!

Victoria Belward

i got full body chills multiple times during this episode, but none so intensely as the final vote with the musical score. this episode was truly the most impactful storytelling performance i’ve ever heard 💜💜💜

kat singer

Suvi saying to Eursulon “I trapped you here. I tried to do the right thing and I ruined …” My god. What a heartbreaking thesis for the character

Makenzie

Amazing!!!

Dan Martin

I hate to see our trio fighting, but I am SO proud of Ame (ESPECIALLY Ame omg) and Eursalon sticking up for themselves when talking with Suvi. The music was incredible 😭!!! Beautiful jobs, all around!! AAAAAAAHHHH 😍 I cannot wait until the next episode!

Sydney Jay

The way she was the only one to invoke her station when voting

Makenzie

Brennan's reaction when Suvi decides to use Identify on herself? And then the description/revelation and Suvi's breakdown? Ooh yeah that's the good pathos and *Drama*. Listening to this episode, i said out loud "Mulligan you Magnificent Bastard" (said with administration for someone who is DAMN GOOD at his craft)

Sean Britcher

Hey Taylor? I’m gonna need the whole soundtrack, stat. I need a seatbelt for this rollercoaster of emotions

Ion Soul

I agree. It's hard to hear her accuse her true friends, again and again, of "never" considering her, when they are in fact working very hard to consider her and her home despite mounting evidence. The always/never dichotomy of trauma and insecurity. Heartbreaking and powerful performance from Aabria.

Kiera Faye

I dm for one and I let them take expertise in insight and persuasion when the rolls have to do with members of their community

Makenzie

I really have to question if Suvi deserves the unconditional compassion and patience a lot of commenters are asking of Ame and Eursulon. What has Suvi done to demonstrate that she is on the right side of this debate? Every time they learn about new magic being created to capture and enslave great spirits, her first thought is "the power of that magic is incredible," which she will then say out loud, in front of Eursulon. Her baseline worldview is that the way to deal with spirits is to control them, and if they oppose your control, well, then "they get what they fucking get". She's seen the derrick and the Kasov collection with her own eyes, and through the eyes of Eursulon, and she still has zero compassion for the spirits being subjugated by the Empire. Why should Eursulon in this moment extend compassion to Suvi, again, as she blindly throws out yet another pile of criticisms against the Citadel? As for Ame, so far at this conclave all she has done is support the Citadel and work for peace, yet Suvi has repeatedly accused her of siding with the spirits and the witches against the wizards. She's criticized Ame for even speaking with the Antivolist and for hearing the arguments of the witches, when those things are literally part of Ame's job description. She claims to be there to support Ame in her goal of finding compromise between the spirits and the mortals, but to Suvi, compromise means getting what she wants, so she is fundamentally incapable of helping. Case in point, she took advantage of her friend's position as an advocate of peace to sneak in and commit an act of war. Suvi is in a tough place. I love her as a character, and I can't wait for her to break through her conditioning, but she is Not A Good Guy right now. Many of the problems she's experiencing are not only problems she's created for herself, but are problems that she would unhesitatingly create again. Until she's ready to confront her worldview, patience and compassion will simply be a waste of time and frankly, Ame and Eursulon have more important things to attend to.

Kevin Christensen

That score at the end??!!? Holy Shit?!?

Makenzie

Dear Taylor, It is not OK that you are this good at sound editing. Please keep doing what you're doing though. Thanks you for enhancing this experience in all the big and small ways that you do.

Brandon Rilling

Ngl, even though the feelings on attacking the Citadel are complicated, I’m excited to see a fight between the Coven & Man in Black vs. The Citadel & Empire. I love epic fights, especially when they have dire consequences! Hakea saying yes was sooo good! Ame woke her back up and it has now caused good and bad consequences for them😂😂😂😭😭😭 I can’t wait to cry more!!!!

Sammi Jacobs

First of all, where is Aabria’s Oscar!? Emmy!? Tony!? Hell, even Grammy! Her performance during the break down was so good and gut wrenching! Aabria really drove that feeling of existential crisis and feeling lost Suvi was experiencing. Like I almost cried (cuz I’ve been there before too)😭😭😭!

Sammi Jacobs

I had to listen to this in bits and skip around somewhat. It's too intense! It matters so much and I need it to be okay!

The Overthinker

Aabria, sugar. "I don't know what to do, just tell me the right thing to do and I'll do it." I had a whole ass moment on the floor of my kitchen.

Witch of the Whirling Storm

Certainly no middle ground with fascism and colonialism, but I think there's a good chance that Rhuv and the Man in Black ruling it are just more fascism and colonialism to replace it, which I think is what Ame was starting to grasp at. Just because there's a spirit at the top doesn't mean it isn't still domination. The MiB is a spirit and therefore a FORCE of nature - of death (primarily although I think he's more complex than just death), which is of course an important part of the natural world, but that doesn't mean it should be at the top of an empire controlling humanity. If I was gonna pick a great spirit to be at the top, it would be something like the spirit of harmony and balance, not death. Naram for president.

Dolphin

Suvi certainly lashed out and said stuff that crossed the line (no family comment), but I really think this is mostly because she wasn't hearing the above clearly, especially when she's already in the middle of a breakdown of her own regarding the self-identify spell and extremely vulnerable. She needed comfort at that moment more than anything.

Dolphin

I feel like the witch of the world's heart subclass should be able to add there wisdom to charisma checks.

Leon Harrison

I feel like all Suvi really needed to hear from Ame was, "we saw some evidence of the citadel attempting to control great spirits, which is something I feel is not good, but I would certainly not condemn every citizen of the citadel, which is what some of my sisters are effectively voting for. It's a complicated issue, but I love you and stand for the people and ideals YOU care for and will fight to find the most peaceful way forward, even if there are some things I can't compromise on."

Dolphin

AAAAAHHHHHHHHHH 😭😭🤮🤮😭😭😭♥️

Colleen Brenner

Feels on brand for her domain. The citadel is intent on mastering the forces of nature and the spirit, makes sense for her to oppose that, even if she likes Ame on a personal level.

Dolphin

Damn, Taylor. The score at the end of this episode was *killer*. Gave me chills. I had to relisten, and then couldn’t listen to anything else for the rest of my drive to just sit in it. Amazing work. 💚

Amber Sewell

The echo effect after “and you still RAN” was just 🤌🏻

August D.

Omg for the love all that is good tear this facist empire down. I’m so tired of the but let’s find middle ground with the citadel

Mia

Even across realms, no highly advanced magical city is safe. But seriously, Abria's capture of Suvie in that moment of meteoric impact was amazing. Her screaming "You ran away!" and then whispering "I'm sorry"; my heart broke for Suvi. Girl needs a full cargo train to carry that load.

BubbleFog

Agree. It was really irritating. Great episode otherwise

Matt Doyle

Props to Aabria's incredible acting this episode. I got so angry at her. Her rhetoric is so incredibly fkn toxic (And thats a compliment) She reminds me of arguments i had with some people in my life. The artistry in this epsiode was really really good. I know people are going to dogpile suvie in this ep. But i want to extend recognition to how resonant and uncomfortable that was.

Adam Driver

Question for Taylor: There is a wailing note that plays in punctuation of big moments in the Coven theme music (such as the entry of the retinues) that sounds almost like the voice of the Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come from the George C Scott Christmas Carol. Can you talk a bit about sound cues like it and how you choose the moments where the score begins to border on something larger and more momentous than mere music?

Lilith Evenstar

Not even halfway through the episode and I am hard weeping in my driveway this morning. At least I have warm coffee. 😭

Mamasaurus

I can’t believe the finale for this chapter comes out on my birthday, what an absolute TREAT, i can’t wait to weep and scream

Mae

Hi everyone, I’m not okay

The Wizard Spicy 🌶️

The music got sooo loud during the discussion of adding new witches to the coven and was drowning out the talking

1man2hands

I spent this entire episode quietly screaming. I can't believe I have to wait a week for the Fireside

Karen Hainstock

in all of the epic-ness, heartbreak, and insanity of this episode I had forgotten that Brennan began it all with an exaggerated slow-motion sausage drop 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. the relisten this morning gave a renewed appreciation for that

I cast Vicious Inspiration

Thanks to her parents who figured out steps to omit when casting a specific spell. Was it to be clever and save time? keep more magic in the “citadel well”? or is it a way to hide from the citadel since their magic is a collection to be used by everyone. You are all clever and amazing storytellers ❤️❤️❤️

The Wizard Sparrow

Whoa, I didn’t catch the name switch. I mean, I know Ursula was mad angry and maybe that just covered up the fact that he switched from Suvi to Sky.

The Wizard Sparrow

I started listening to this at 4 o’clock this morning and now all I want to do is journal my theories. I don’t think I can wait a whole week for the fireside chat😳😳

The Wizard Sparrow

I was more shocked with Ingrid agreeing with Ame

The Wizard Sparrow

I think I say this every week, but this has to be the best episode. last 30 minutes were insane; suvy (sky) casting the spell on herself was amazing. The storyline I have no idea what’s gonna happen and that is what makes this podcast so amazing because there’s just so many little stories inside this one episode

The Wizard Sparrow

I too believe in women's wrongs

E. Filleul

Those last 30 seconds, they hit me the same way Calamity did. Which is probably the most replayed live play I've even listened to.

Damien Kirby

THE MUSIC god the performances are absolutely top tier, incredible, but to pair that with these incredible soundscapes, effects, additional moments - just an absolute delight ❤️

annemjw

I stand with my canceled wife. Suvi get behind me babe🤺🤺🤺

Nefeli

Agiddysea

Holy fucking shit

Mubeen Khan

Witch of The Word & Will. This is what we need.

Sil

This is the most "Swan lake " episode of all time, maybe not the one Ive enjoyed the most but god dam is it good...absolute watershed moment happening right now .

yup

As a character, Ame has no desire to "win" against Suvi. She is becoming more desperate, and Suvi is facing a level of cognitive dissonance she hasn't before that Aabria has fkn NAILED in portraying. It isn't about winning, it's about learning.

Sil

My favorite episode so far

Max

honestly i think this was the most intense episode yet 😳 i am SO READY to watch hakea fuck shit up!!!! 👀 🔥 Q for the fireside chat: what were the thresholds on Ame's persuasion roll at the end? like, was it 20 for Hakea to side with her, or were everybody's votes pretty much set in stone unless Ame rolled INSANELY well?

Kelsey Sobotka

I just GOTTA know what Hakea’s intentions are! What’s going on in that brain of hers now that she’s woken up?? Why would she do that???

Jordan Youssef

Hot damn I would not want to have to argue against Suvi. She too smart. Ame needs to find another way. She will always lose if she takes Suvi on head on like that. Even if Suvi wants to be beaten.

Lojaan

What is there for Eursalon to say about the MiB? He has always been quite open about what he wants to do. You may not agree with his goals or methods, but he does have integrity.

Lojaan

I FUCKING KNEW IT HAHAHAHA HA (the final 10 seconds of the episode)

Al

I wonder how Hakea would have voted if Ame hadn’t lied

Zivia Avelin

*lightning*

Zivia Avelin

when the GM says strap in after you roll, whew, they are NOT fibbing Also, cool & unsettling end music! Love an ominous pluck of strings

mguin

SIR I HAVE A FAMILY. Yeah that monologue about Suvi leveled me

DaphneDawn

Oh fuck

Danielle Olmoguez

Oh fuck oh shit oh fuck

MisterWizard

I'm not ok after this ep. How am I supposed to sleep. I need resolution now 😫

Gerard Beatty

Masterpiece.

Courtney Seebadri

Nope. Even if it takes forever I will reach his level. Not be him - be equal to him.

FooldiverDX

This is the first episode I genuinely struggled to get through. It was so emotionally real and raw and fucking hard to handle man. My hat goes off to all the players for their incredible performance and to Brennan for crafting such a moving plot line.

Zoop

Two and twenty scrying spells 🤝 why you can't have 11 witches in the cover. Double numbers have a special magic 🤌✨

Ashley Teatum

Sad about it, but there was a for sure change in Eursulon when confronting Suvi after he gained this new knowledge. No more "Suvi" it is now "Sky". Oh the heartbreak :) <3 So many feelings about this episode. Love it, can't wait to see what happens next.

MsAlleyCat

👋🏾🩵 send me the other half of the tray, friend

Aabria Iyengar

WHAAAAAAAAAT

AVeryCleanGoblin

Character Development Question! Why does Eursalon speak out against the *white* lie of Ame, but doesn’t speak out against the quality/integrity of the Man in Black when Ursalon knows he’s out to destroy Ame and Souvie???? He has charismatic authority in that moment at the table and he didn’t speak. His presence was even request to be uninhibited. He knew his awareness of The Man in Black could not be spoken for after the recess. Why did you not speak up, Eursalon? Eursalon knows the Man in Black is not of perfect quality just like the Citadel. 1:12:30?- Episode #30 - The Snake “…What you and I need to know is: WHO YOU ARE.” - Man in Black “… does that balance require the death of those under my protection? “ - Eursalon “ Yes. one for reasons of furry, and the other for sorrow” - MiB Doesn’t Ursalon value Steele, his mentor and coach? Doesn’t he want to reciprocate the same bridge exuded and offered by Sir Curran to the other world (from Curran to him, to Honored Friends)? Is that not part of his Oath? Hey! Paladin, I Love You AND we’re all f*cking learning AND what is your Oath?! Hey! Watch it! You hear me?! The heart of gold shines Radiant for ALL to see! Not just at convenience! You can stand up for the good of the Citadel that you know is seen by Ame. That’s shared knowledge! You aren’t alone in that belief. I imagine you trust Ame’s position but! you getting swayed by Man in Black. What is your Oath and Who are YOU, Eursalon?! If you would be willing to speak to these points, Lou/Steven/panama etc., that would be super awesome. I love what you do; I wonder what you were experiencing in that moment in front of the witches. Is this just Chaotic Good?! 😂🧐😛 Absolutely terrific job everyone! Keep going!

Stefanucci Mozzarella

This episode was soooo good

Antonia Canosa

Wow. Woodland Green coming in hot.

Chris Caran

And we got to wait 2 weeks for more 😔😔😔😔

Michael Redd

But if she let them explain they might be right so she’s gotta keep yelling because her world is broken enough right now

Zivia Avelin

What the fuck do you mean woodland green :o:o:o

Robert Quigley

Hot damn that was so good!! So many thoughts and questions! Is Will Gallows one of the dead from Rhuv? What’s the deal with the 12 patrons? Is the Pilgrim Under Stars the 13th horse the Archer mentioned? Did Indry say no because she had nothing to lose since there was no unanimity, and this way she doesn’t have to help? Would Hakea have said no if Ame never woke her up? Is Marara just casting levitate or something? What did she mean by calling herself an abomination? And then there’s everything with The Citadel and The Library 😫

CommodoreBlue

And Suvi, grappling with what the reckless and sometimes brutal nature of spirits, but not fully unpacking the ways the Citadel oversteps it's goals of "protecting humans and gaining knowledge" in favor of controlling and subjugating power/problems before they arise (ie: Naram and some of the spirits in the gallery), as well as the huge class disparity within the citadel itself (though that's not a problem for spirits/the future of magic in it's own). And even Ursulon, trapped as an ambassador for a world he cannot return to. I get the sense that he is pretty agnostic towards death on either side (spirits and humans kill each other all the time) but is rightfully upset about mass capture/exploitation on either side, with particular care for spirits since he is one and they are underrepresented/misunderstood in Umora.

rocket-flash

me every episode about everything that takes place

bails 🌀 witch of the what the fuck

but in the art style of Blue Eye Samurai pls n thank u 😌 but seriously with Vox Machina and also the McElroy’s graphic novels i GOTTA believe this podcast is going places

bails 🌀 witch of the what the fuck

First, is the Man in Black's army called the Men in Black?? Please? I love this story so much. I love how all of the main three are having these double sided reckonings and making messy choices! Ame, split between the treachery within the citadel/it's colonialist aims within the Spirit Realm and the Man in Black (and now the Coven) wanting to destroy much of humanity. If she would actually reckon with how reckless her departure from the Citadel (and Port Talon) was and really sit with that as a mistake, I think she would have a much easier time winning Suvi over! It's hard to watch her make her biggest mistakes rashly out of fear, even if I understand where the fear comes from.

rocket-flash

*wild Italian gesticulating* 🤌🏻🤌🏻

bails 🌀 witch of the what the fuck

ughhhh I KNOWWW and the whole time i was thinking with Suvi’s current mental state/recent revelation how impactful it might have been for Ame to throw back “what would you have ME do?” to Suvi. because Suvi’s usual gut instinct to get more information from Steel might have made Suvi pause after that identify spell 😫

bails 🌀 witch of the what the fuck

The Saurman-esque scream of "TO WAR!" in my car felt perfect in this instance.

Sil

Also excited to see if Suvi is going to be able to reverse engineer her way to the original memory with the somatic components/finger movements she stuck in her brain. This story is SO GOOD!

sabertruth19

This episode gave me actual chills. The emotion felt so raw and real, the tension almost palpable. I am SO excited to find out what happens next!

Zoe Robertson

I had to listen to this episode pacing around my house holding my dog in order to stomach it. Terrifying and awful. What a masterpiece

Norah Clous

“if you tell me what’s right, i’ll do it” as a recovering people pleaser (who still falls off the wagon), this pleading from Suvi perfectly sums up my fierce desire to protect her with my whole being. i had to pause the episode to SOB. begging to understand how she can help, how she can show everyone that she deserves the air she breathes, the space she takes up. how she can bloody her nails clawing to prove her worth. if i do everything right, i’ll be loved. if i never make a mistake, i won’t end up alone. do you know what it did to a girl like Suvi, to lose her parents at an age she could still recall their faces? the sturdiness of her mother and the gentleness of her father? Suvi, who loves magic with everything she is, who describes magic as “belonging to adulthood” was a little girl when she was tucked into that carriage in the dead of night. confused. afraid. alone. maybe if she were older, she could have done something. maybe if she knew more, she could have been useful — and THAT’s her fear. “not her fault” is not a phrase in Suvi’s vocabulary. cause, effect. she was sent away, her parents died. you can see that guilt in every decision, every venomous remark designed to hurt. she HAS to believe the Citadel has merit or else nothing has changed, or else she is still the small, ignorant child who was helpless to save her parents. and so i’m reticent to write off the whole of the Citadel because the fact is: they kept her safe. they gave her a home, a family. they fed her natural curiosity and gave her unimaginable opportunities to grow and thrive. they gave her purpose. i will not deny the evidence presented against them, but how can Suvi be expected to shed her bias in an instant? the ways in which the Citadel made her whole again should not be trivialized. separating her upbringing from her sense of self is going to require grieving the life she has worked tirelessly to make for herself. give her a little grace if it doesn’t happen overnight. Suvi is broken and scared which is a dangerous combination. and now that the seeds of doubt have been tentatively sown, it has the very real ability to unravel her if she doesn’t get the support she needs from SOMEWHERE. the fact is, no matter how much Suvi loves Steel as a mother and a mentor, any explanation Steel may have is now soured. who CAN she trust? how is any one person expected to navigate this logically without guidance? as i said in another reply on here, i SINCERELY hope her true friends are up for the challenge of deconstructing their biases together because if they can work to heal Suvi’s heart, the party as a whole will become all the stronger for it. and after this episode, y’all, they’re going to NEED strength. so, respectfully, platonically, this is my love letter to Aabria Iyengar. holy sh*t, your capacity for exploring these deeply raw and vulnerable emotions has not gone unnoticed. it is a balm to my soul and a reassuring hug to my inner child. ty for allowing me to wax poetic; i’m going to eat half a tray of brownies to recover 👋🏻🩵

bails 🌀 witch of the what the fuck

I think its so fascinating how Suvi and Ame always kind of devolve into conflict but both are usually reticent to confront or upset Ursalon. I know probably due to lingering guilt over his predicament, but its also fascinating and drives me crazy how Suvi seems to exclusively blame Ame for leaving the Citadel when Ursalon also left the same way or how she empathizes with Ursalon's feelings about the derrick and the cassov collection but if Ame speaks up about it she becomes defensive and says she doesn't understand or how she will listen to what he has to say about the presentation evidence but dismisses anything Ame has to say and resorts to insulting her and condescending to her because she was never able to have any of the same resources or level of community that she had because Ame was literally? Abandoned? At gramma Wren's? I LOVE Suvi but she make'a me a'so mad allathetime.

Aubrae C

This has managed to edge its way into the top position of my favorite games I've listened to. There is so much love and nuance and outright skill that has gone into this show from everyone involved, and I can only aspire to being part of a game even half as good at some point in my life.

Danielle St John

Just muttering to myself Xiao Court Xiao Court, waiting for Ame to throw that back to Suvi - you got a whole building full of trapped spirits in paintings and an entire court built around it. Put that with Morrow and Port Talon and Eursalon’s sister and Soft’s “incident” and you start to have more of a long-standing pattern instead of once off wild card.

sabertruth19

When Brennan said strap in, I almost throw up.

Annabel Mont

For as much as Suvi is in the dark about, she knows FAR more about the inner workings of the Citadel than anyone else at the conclave. She herself may have plenty of evidence to the malice of the Citadel, but she has turned a blind eye to it. Or maybe not! I just think she’s seen a lot that she considers “fine” bc she’s been told it’s “fine”

ceeg

i literally yelled that out loud when it happened lmao

Spencer Kane

Gotta disagree about Steel. Suvi is the one who insisted on going to the conclave to protect Ame, and Steel pretty fully explained the Modify Memory plan and only did it with Suvi’s consent. Suvi just can’t remember that right now. I think Steel has good intentions but was also raised in the same Citadel system as Suvi.

Bree Manahan

A lot of people coming down on Suvi when the 'evidence' we saw was just one noted enemy of the citadel saying "Source: Trust me, bro." Yeah we know the derek was a thing, but we also know it was off books and not authorized and we didn't see any actual evidence to the contrary, nor did we actually *see* nay of these 'intercepted missives' for all anyone actually knows she just made it all up and it kinda sucks that Ame didn't at least ask to see some proof. That said, institutions bad, etc and i'm sure there's probably a lot of fire to that smoke, but I totally get Suvi's reaction.

Strange Universe

My stomach hurts. The anxiety!

Bree Manahan

Also the WORLDS HEART is still gonna DIE at the end of the year due to the Man in Black???!

Jack Monaco

Like she wants to wipe out MORTALS. No nuance. The world’s heart is the WORLD, not just humans which comprise a small part of it. Wren is BAD because she interpreted her station to be what we know it as

Jack Monaco

Such an interesting Parallel is that Mirara and Suvi are both status obsessed. Mirara views witches as completely beholden to their station. She’s a good witch after all. Her truths are not ones bound of relationships and relativity, unless it’s her great goth bf The Man in Black.

Jack Monaco

You ever listen to a man resolving a simple Identify spell and think about hanging it all up 'cause you'll never be him?

Tara

She has awakened

AGENTAPPLES

So when are we getting a vox machina style TV show?

Kurt Anderson

yo what the fuck I didn’t know you were allowed to DO that

Zander Jenkins

You know what Suvi you might actually get enough evidence from Ame and Eursulon if you LET THEM EXPLAIN!!!! Love you 4eva though ur my short tempered baby🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻

ceeg

—screamingcryingthrowingup—

Sam Berry-Sullivan

I FEEL FUCKING CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ceeg

Um. Hey. You made me cry.

Alex B

Potential pick for a new witch in the Coven of Elders: Silver’s husband 🤗 (provided he studies witch craft and denounces the Citadel)

美知子

“…on the stones in front of you shatters a kitty-cat mug” MENDING

FoggyFroggy

I listened to the end of this on the bus and I realised I probably looked like I'd just gotten the juiciest voicenote ever recorded

catrinevansvlogs -

No words. Just WOW

Jordan Charles

By the Great Spirits, I love Suvi. That is your home. Your safety. Your comfort. Your family. Your friends. Your education. Almost everything that made you who you are and almost everything that you've ever known. Damn straight I'd need a little more evidence before I agree to burn it all the the ground. Evidence they might have if Ame hadn't spilled the beans about Suvi being from the Citadel. Not talking is catching up to them all because there's never enough time (legitimately). Old wounds are festering and fueling feelings behind new feuds. I love all these artists so much for making my heart break in such beautiful ways 💜

Theo Lee

Okay it is a little bit bullying right, she's behaving in a way taught to her by her parents to convince people that you're right and it belittles others. She kept throwing her family in amay's face after telling her that she didn't know what it's like to have one

Bryan Holt

I’m still processing this episode, but it was just amazing. The sound design, the story telling, the deep emotions from everyone. THE ENDING!!! Just incredible all around.

VeritaAmore87

Me too, bud

Jordan Charles

This episode! A masterclass in storytelling and sound design. My heart broke at least three times.

Gone Fawn It

Another certified classic! I feel like Mirara just needs a friend, maybe if anyone gave her a chance she would not have turned to the Man in Black. She seems isolated. Her station does not necessarily desire solitude like wind and stars yet no one would willingly be her retinue I keep going back to that

Henry Whittington

Literally couldn't keep a smile off my face by the end! Can't wait to see how things shake out after all this!

Jack Flynn

The threat colonialism and enslavement feels like a reach considering they are discussing joining the side a spirit who rules a nation in the mortal realm where human’s bodies are used as vessels for spirits to control and discard, like the ship captain. It’s more about human’s technology/lingua arcana disrupting a hierarchy that spirits were comfortable with and Ursalon having personal trauma guiding a pretty selective abolitionist politic.

R. Shawn Abrahams

please release an album or even just an mp3 of the music in this show please i’m begging.

Birdy

I almost feel like Sky would have had a better chance of being convinced if she’d stayed. Especially if Ame hadn’t outed her. I really wonder if hearing Tefmet’s entire pitch would have convinced Sky. I think it would come down to weather what she said to Ame is true or not. Is there an amount of proof that would make Sky turn on the citadel or is that just her justification.

Zivia Avelin

Oh, for sure. The thanks given was sincere, as she saw Ame go into bat for the very existence of the coven that Hakea created. It was such a fantastic moment, sincere thanks followed by immediate opposition.

Edmund Barker

Oof. This was a tough episode (but soooo good). Everyone's feelings were justified. I want to know how long Ren was cursed that it made her job of confronting the Citedal impossible. It probably didn't help that her co conspirators (Suvi's parents) were dead.

MagnaniMel

Wasn’t it Gauthmai that was traveling into the spirit realm and breeding those monsters? I feel like the evils being layed at the citadel’s feet are just a convenient way for the King Under Night make a play at Empire Expansion.

R. Shawn Abrahams

i’ll speak too soon and say it’s my favorite fantasy media ever created. i accept the consequences 😌

bails 🌀 witch of the what the fuck

I’m not ready for PVP

Beignet Gesserit

bad! thanks for asking! 😀

bails 🌀 witch of the what the fuck

ok before i come back to write my platonic love letter to Aabria Iyengar, i did have this thought back when Tefmet torched their more specific findings prior to the presentation… it seems like the type of whimsical application of magic that Brennan would honor if Ame sequestered off to see the coal spirit Toph (Tof?) before leaving Indri’s. and because i am IMPATIENT for CLUES, maybe Ame could assist in a simple mending spell with the Toph’s help to repair Tefmet’s documents 👀 because who better to ask about the comings and goings of soot and ash?? this WON’T HAPPEN because they’ve ALREADY RECORDED these episodes but it would be COOL, I THINK 😤 also, i have this feeling that Tefmet would be an incredible ally to them if the gang were able to set aside their biases in favor of merely discovering the truth, whatever it may be. in short: more Tefmet pls 👉🏻👈🏻

bails 🌀 witch of the what the fuck

I’m not ok how are you guys doing?

Zivia Avelin

I can't listen to this while doing anything else anymore. When I first discovered this series I spent literally every free second binging the first 25 or so episodes. But now I listen to this like people listened to the radio when it had just been invented.

One Punch Max

Seriously the acting in this episode was sublime. Lou giving me goosebumps, Abria literally making me cry, Erika pulling me back up again. And Brennan as always creating literal magic with is words, I swear the Lingua Arcana is real and he's using it. That's the only explanation for what I'm hearing.

One Punch Max

like imagine always trying to do the right thing but still be FULLY unable to trust anyone that claims they care about you

lxwles

Not done the episode, but goddamn, Suvi breaking down is making me want to fight someone to protect her

Genna

I would hate it if Suvi became a villain but it would be really hard to blame her

lxwles

the way i had to hold down my mental breakdown as i listened to this at work 😅

Daryn Snijdewind

Do they make Oscars for Podcasts? I'm gonna need the two weeks to recover from and process this episode.

One Punch Max

The music at the end I’m dying! We be mere mortals Taylor stop it

DaphneDawn

I will stan Suvi until the day I die bc I have been her and I *understand* her. Aabria you absolute masterclass in grey area RP.

tayycro

I have to say, while I have consumed and enjoyed work from everyone involved in WBN prior to this (Taylor and Fortunate Horse included!), WBN is far and away my favorite that any of them have ever done, by a country mile. It's without a doubt among my favorite actual plays ever. And it's too soon to say until the thing is done, but it's rapidly becoming one of my favorite pieces of fantasy media ever, period.

Brandon Carbaugh

+1 ‼️ show me how hot the Man in Black is you absolute cowards

bails 🌀 witch of the what the fuck

I can't wait for the day Suvi finally admits that she's wrong lol

Sasha

I love the gray area, biases and complicated anger that is being displayed between the trio. From Ursalon, anger can be pointed toward both Suvi & Ame. Spirits are being threaten with the possibility of exploitation from ppl of the Citadel, plus Ame lying about it and not giving the full picture to the witches- a group of ppl that could help save Urasalon’s home- has him rightfully pissed. From Suvi, her anger is pointed toward Ame because her home and everything she has ever known is in jeopardy of being erased from the world from long time adversaries. Seeing Ame in agreement with the opinions that are against her home -and in turn her- will make her defensive of the placed that raised her and gave her direction/purpose. From Suvi’s POV, all her and her family have done is show Ame and Ursalon kindness continuously only to have them spit in her face when they left in a hurry or didn’t wait at the Port. Then Ame & Ursalon questioning the kindness given can rlly heat you up. From Ame, her anger can be pointed toward Suvi. Ame and her station is pretty much the only barrier between humanity facing the wrath of witchdom and spirt world. She has seen signs of wizardry harming or working in opposition of spirits be it in Port Talon or the Collection, but she fights for them anyway because she won’t condemn the entirety of the institution but still is aware of its corruption. It’s a lot for one person to be responsible for all humanity and shoulder that burden as a 3 month newbie. Then be told your not doing enough The complexity *Chef’s Kiss*, there’s no right answer just consequences

Bored Today

Whew gotta catch my breath after that one. The music was a little too loud in some spots but this is an all-timer episode. Sheesh.

Xanian Jamfalcon

Yyyyyyyeeeeeeeesssss!

Lilith Evenstar

Desperately hoping that we can get a Spirit Week in October to show off the true forms and glamours of some of these incredible spirits we keep hearing about

rio

makin me cry at work lol

Corey Lynn

Just when I think I can't love this podcast any more than I already do, we get today's episode! Gripping emotional drama; realizations; accusations; appeals; betrayals; all scored with Taylor's magic music!!! I love this show!

Sam

Citadel brainwashing at its finest 😭 it’s heartbreaking because you can see how badly Suvi wants to do the right thing but she’s literally fighting against a lifetime of training that forces her to “see the bigger picture” when it’s actually in the minutiae that evil begins to take hold. and so, by design, the Citadel makes wizards overlook smaller details in favor of a Greater Good mindset. i need a nap 🫠

bails 🌀 witch of the what the fuck

Something strikes me about how witches are singular in their representation of an entire domain - if the witch is Bad, replacing or removing the witch is a straightforward answer, but even at the very top the Citadel is run by committee, so determining fault is going to be more complicated. There's no extricating politics and varied/conflicting motivations - it's more like the coven than any one witch, but it feels like the presentation of evidence against "The Citadel" is treating it as a singular entity

AliceH

This!

AliceH

I think the trigger happy sense your seeing is the character’s inherent biases (which is being portrayed amazingly) towards each other’s group. Witches toward wizards Wizards toward Spirits & Witches Spirts toward Wizards So evidence is introduced that reinforces your bias they are not as quick to separate the Citadel from the machinations of wizards. Not that they can’t but are slower to do so.

Bored Today

Also suviiiii baby, verbalizing such complicated shit. So amazing and a great antithesis to the "burn it all down" mentality I CANT HANDLE HOW GOOD YOU GUYS ARE

Kitkitdik

Hakea!!!!!! I should have known, but the yes caught me by suprise

Kitkitdik

Not me sobbing during work as I’m listening to this masterpiece. I am ~incredibly~ frustrated and ~thoroughly~ enraged

nat

It’s going to take me days to emotionally recover from the scream “YOU RAN!” followed by the quiet “…I’m sorry”. The trust that this group has with each other to build these heavy, complicated emotions and take big swings is always incredible to listen to.

HillaryDraws

Oh man, maybe it's just the lawyer in me but I was on Suvi's side... I need some kind of evidence that the Citadel is behind stuff? I have no problem believing that wizards of the empire do terrible stuff or that some Citadel wizards are bad, but it's a highly regimented bureaucracy WITHIN a larger enormous bureaucracy - the idea that the Citadel "rulers" know everything going on in the entire EMPIRE seems farfetched tbh? I'm thinking of how they reacted to Ame's hot exit (local cop issue) vs Morrow, a non-citadel wizard fairly far away... I would *expect* them to have all his stuff shipped to the tower to take apart and analyze. I dunno, I have an issue with destroying a whole city and major educational institution, especially when the opposition is talking about reminding humans of their place 😬

AliceH

For as much as I'm looking forward to a potential Suvi Gone Rogue arc, I think Aabria is playing it exactly right. How much would it take for me to quit my job cold turkey, run away from my partner and disown my relatives, give up everything that I hold dear and have been working towards my entire life? How much bad would I have to see before it finally outweighs all of the immense good? "Forgive me if I need a little more evidence before I forsake my entire life and family." If/when Suvi turns her back on The Citadel, the trail of destruction left behind in her comet's wake is going to be epic and so satisfying.

Julia Whitmore

WOAHHHHHHH HAKEAAAA!!! Tbf I do feel that Hakea did mean what she said to Ame at the end. While their truths differ and their goals may as well, I’d like to think that there is respect to the dedication to their station from both Ame and Hakea

Max Yurkovsky

I'm so excited to see what finally makes Suvi's devotion to the citadel crack. For three seasons now I've expected small inconsistencies in her worldview to build up until she can't ignore them anymore, but after this episode I think Steel could give her a full out heel turn villain monologue and Suvi would still find a way to rationalize it

Kevin Christensen

I don’t think Indri’s vote was to help anyone but her damn self. She votes “no” only after Ame, meaning they didn’t have unanimity and the power of covenant backing them. Indri isn’t trying to get her shoes dirty before she steps over everyone in the aftermath.

Witch of the Willow Bowers

As soon as Hakea said “I like you Ahme…” I knew it was over.

PharaohNoir

I haven't been this emotionally confused since puberty.

Traviss Smelser

*clutches chest* Having to wait two weeks for the next story episode feels like the cruelest thing that anyone has ever been done to me, and nothing will convince my nervous system otherwise in this moment. Honey bunches I cannot even right now. I'm going to have to organize an emotional support pod to help me survive this campaign.

Brittany Fritsch

It seems as if it is only at the vote, hence Indry making a big deal about being too hasty with when voting occurs. I was also wondering if its a thing where voting on a subject only happens once and cannot be brought up again and its looking like its one and done.

Aubrae C

The music during Suvi’s spell - WOW!!!

Jared Mordigal

"I trapped you here" bury me, I wither and die

Aubrae C

This episode was completely exhausting to listen to, in the best ways possible. Superb job.

TheWanderingMage

loved the soundtrack when Ame was talking to Mirara!

Alex H.

Enough with the good music man I'm unhealthy

lil guy

Taylor!!!!!!!!!!!!

lil guy

Suvi needs to pick a side PRONTO! Her adoptive mother had no qualms with brainwashing her and sending her into the lions den. And even if she did, none of them were strong enough to go against the wishes of the Almighty Citadel. Ever since the Casov Collection I've been waiting to see that tower fall, and crumble into more sand! (I hope Ame can make them see reason, but I'm not holding my breath)

HexMix

If mentioned in a previous episode please let me know, but is unanimity only acquired at the vote of the conclave or can it be acquired later if the witches who vote went against the majority changes thier mind?

Noliam Samoht

Omg seriously, the moment where Suvi was SO CLOSE to having a moment of introspection about who/what may be working against her and instead gets snapped back. UGHHHHH

Aubrae C

SO HAPPY to see Ame shut down Suvi's latest attempt to bully her around!

HexMix

The anticipation and hope that Suvi will one day have the reckoning/revelation that Empires that Seek to Dominate the World and Hoard Magic are baaad maybe??? and end up in a no man's land of "BOTH/ALL y'all are fucked up" keeps me waiting with baited breath.

Aubrae C

Question for the party. Im noticing Suvi, Ame, and Ursalon are very trigger happy for different reasons. What version of the character are you tapping into when your unleash that kind of wrath ?

Dooby cooby

I think the witches may still have joined the man in black if Mirara and Ame died; Hakea was being influenced by his agents and I think Indry's vote with Ame was largely a result of her newfound respect for (and debt to) Ame

Alex H.

I would die for Hakea. Turn me to MULCH.

Aubrae C

I gotta say that after seeing Suvi steamroll over Ame in so many arguments it was kind of wild seeing Ame bite back and put Suvi on the back foot for even a moment. Though "I don't even have time for a mental breakdown" I felt that deep in my soul

Damir Allen

look I love Suvi but in this episode she accuses Ame of not understanding what it is to have a family and continues to infantilize Ame any time she comes to a different conclusion from Suvi, despite the fact that she literally just learned that her own mother didn't trust the Citadel, and that someone in the Citadel had cast a Modify Memory spell on her! Aabria is doing a great job and it's a well-realized character but Ame isn't being mean for presenting evidence from a person she's confident is telling the truth, and she nevertheless continues to attempt to restore peace!

Alex H.

I am shooketh. Hakea, Suvi, Ame, Eursolon, Mirara. Another week of this podcast haunting my every waking moment, coming right up - piping hot.

Barron Botts

the smell of soap...💔

Matthew B

My bumps are all goosed out, you guys

Ben Fogle

Once again I find myself crying about pretend people.

Dooby cooby

Why is Ame so mean to Suvi EVERY TIME? There's easier ways to say "some people at the Citadel might be bad" but every time she implicates Suvi! Thet could have told them that Morrow wasn't Citadel, they could have told them Morrow is dead, and WHY ARE WE SUDDENLY TRUSTING THE WITCH WHOSE SLEEPING WITH THE MAN IN BLACK when we JUST USED THAT AGAINST HER LAST EPISODE??? I can't understand why someone so good at making friends with coal spirits and everything else under the sun constantly fails to communicate with her best friendss

Amelia Malcolm

Best episode of the show so far (and the bar was already high!). Hakea is the fucking best ❤️ On a side note Id kill for this show to come out weekly 😭

Aleks

The reaching green theme music is my favorite thing 💜

Pauraic

Yeah but I get the vibes from Mirara that her side is more like "the NYPD is a monstrous institution that exists as a massive monument to injustice. And that is why we must nuke New York City"

kins pents

Suvi's compartmentalization game is on a whole different level

Divanté Malachi

"I couldn't even have a fucking mental breakdown. Why is there never enough time?" Hit REAL hard, in an episode that was hitting too damn hard.

Esotericrow

NooooooooooOOOOOooooooooOOOOOoooo, the ending had me on the edge of my seat.

Roland Lowe

Happy birthday! Sorry about the emotional damage.

Esotericrow

I need a glass of fucking wine after this one jesus christ

Alex Fasci

Question for the crew, why is YouTube Music bad? Is it the quality of the audio, or is it a message against large corporations?

Millie Marrai

The chain of events here is wild!! Suvi’s mission lead to Ame surviving as well as Marara, and motivating Hakea to “wake up”. Marara is then able to get 3/5th of the Coven aligned to move against the Citadel, Suvi’s home. If Suvi failed her mission, the witches wouldn’t have joined the man in black. But since Ame is alive, it also may save the Citadel??? The dominos!!

Gillian Moser

I was so shocked with that about-face that I dropped my knitting!

Jane C

Oh God are we supposed to wait two weeks again

Leo Burn'd

On another day might I have coherent thoughts about this episode. For now, however, unintelligible screaming. AHHHHHHHHH.

Alyssa

Holy shit, this episode!!!!!! You guys really knocked it out of the park! So many emotions! You guys were all digging so deep! The shouting! The crying! I loved this! I feel bad for Suvi but her people suck. I wonder if she will look back at what she learned later with an eye for what the witches found and wonder of they are right instead of her blind faith.

Michelle Spurgeon

HOW? DO THESE? KEEP? GETTING? BETTER? EVERY TIME??? this should be illegal

BingusBongos

I miss the time before I caught up when I always had another episode

Chelsea Brown

I just assumed she’d be opposed to any kind of further alliance with other people because it goes against her station

Simon

Holy Crap! That's how you go to war!

bitterbaldguy

Oscar worthy performance, what an absolute delight to be able to listen to this podcast from the beginning. My heart broke for Suvi this episode, the moment she begins to unravel and genuinely experience doubt and fear is the exact moment her friends are moved to confront her about the nature of the Citadel. It's heartbreaking seeing the conditioning kick on in the moment of fear and uncertainty, torn from comfort and nostalgia that almost got somewhere before the real world and consequences kicked through the door. Ame, young and panicking, but moving to follow her mentor's action and holds true to her best fucking attempts at saving her true friend's home because she believes in people despite how god damn awful it is now. Eursulon's trauma and heartbreak and betrayal from both of his friends in the face of his home rapidly heading toward potential colonization. AHHHHHHHHHH. Feeling crazy. Let's go.

Benny Bee

Y’all absolutely COOKED with this one istg.

astrolotree

Spoilers!!!!! I expected the last vote on a meta lvl bc of w her station is but I can’t fucking fathom what game Indry is playing here. Is she paying it back to Ame so she has no debts? I’m so curious

Liu

HOLY FUCKING SHIIIIT WHAT THE FUUUUUCK

Liu

I love WBN so much because it invites these direct moments of conflict and heartache that so many games intentionally avoid!! I couldn't imagine being any of the players in this episode, this is a TOUGH one. I think I would've been dead by the end of the episode if I had to handle any of this as a person.

Nathan Asher

But idk I think our good witch of the waning moon has a point, if Orima is one of the King of Night's shooters I think I wanna be on their side when the dust clears

Divanté Malachi

thanks for this banger, guys! i love crying for a full hour on a tuesday!!

Amelia Granato

Devastation

domino

But God Ame going to lie immediately about the derrick would fucking murder me, I can't believe how Eursulon must feel

Divanté Malachi

Only 30 minutes in but Ame is giving some big “but I have a friend who’s a cop so surely acab can’t be true” energy here

Aleks

Aabria made me cry this ep. What a performance! Can't wait to see what comes next 👀👀👀👀👀

Julia

What’s amazing about this episode is that not only was it soul crushing it also has laid out a clear path for my continued emotional torment every two weeks for the rest of the campaign. I love it so much

Noam Gumerman

Eursulon's initial reaction was such a Tefmet win

Divanté Malachi

Oh, I was sobbing so hard in that scene (and lowkey for the rest of the episode) that I had to take a walk after to try and shake it off.

Aabria Iyengar

So when does Aabria get her Podcast Oscar? Her Podscar.

Nathan Spring

I saw that end coming but man was there a sliver of hope that eventually got dashed HARD. Also fuck was that argument between Ame and Suvi intense yet amazing. Amazing work folks

Ammar Khalid

Hakea you DOG

Sam Thomas

I cried, I had to have a cigarette break! Taylor you are a god among editors for this episode alone. I hope there is an award that you can win for this podcast. Aabria I need to know if you actually cried in this episode. Round of applause for everyone, I’m absolutely in love with this show. Hakea I have to love you for that ending.

LuChiChi4

Spoilers!!!! “Let’s tear that tower down” I am screaming, hakea with the double bluffs by complimenting Ame godamn I love this old woman

The jowler

lets tear that tower down OOOOOOH BABY

Jack Jones

Well that was rough... ( Amazing but rough haha )

Marcus

I think it's because they only updated the description, not the "itunes summary", and pocket casts actually shows the itunes summary, not the description

Sigurt Bladt Dinesen

Emotional damage! The sound design is incredible and my chest hurts (affectionate). I’m having fun 🙃

Abigail M

God the Citadel theme goes so hard man

Jack Jones

The King of Night gives some Randall Flagg vibes.

Jacob B.

Reupload not showing up yet for me on Pocket Casts :(

André

Called shot: Erika's "Wit'n'ess schmeat in Grimoire's mouf" on next fireside

Blue Jones

We love you so much!!! (I'm making being parasocial cool again, join my movement)

Blue Jones

🌭ha ha what a fun sound design oh no wait what is happen oh no oh god no

Erika Ishii

I have been looking at my Phone like crazy for this!! Thank you!!!

Franco Muscellini

Huzzah! Now get rest Taylor!

SvenTS

Same! It’s yet to pop up in the Apple podcast

LuChiChi4

Omg, the sound design already, just 5 minutes in.

Cody Zimmer

IM SO SCARED LET'S GO 🫣😭🫣😭🫣😭🫣

Amber Cekander

Anyone else not getting any audio to play?? Hasn’t shown in my Apple Podcasts either… I will reach deep into the root system of this universe to cultivate patience.

Witch of the Remembering Bog

Only three? I'm not sure how many times I've listened to the coven scene (first hour ish) lmao

Wren

🫡

Aabria Iyengar

Oh hell yeah! Can't wait to learn what and who witnessed.

Cody Zimmer

It's my birthday and this is the best present to start the day with~ Soooooo excited🎉🎶💞🌟

Emma41420

🥳

Aela K

I’ve re-listened to The Vote three times and I’m powerfully excited for this

AbsoluteMission

Here we go!

Whyse Wytch

Roll up roll up some WBN fresh from the presses!!

Jack Jones