Crisis of Infinite Farleys feat. A.S. Hamrah
Added 2025-03-11 14:06:05 +0000 UTCWe start by looking at Canada’s destiny as the last holdout of Deloitte Pride Float liberalism, and then Neom’s ongoing woes as executives supported by McKinsey start frantically figuring out how to make the whole thing work economically. Then, film critic A.S. Hamrah joins Riley and November to talk about AI in the film industry, and the studio executives’ bizarre desire to algorithmically raise the dead.
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Not liking RoP and then always feeling like you're being defensive about not liking it because everyone assumes it's because of the "the woke" but really you didn't like it because it felt like 3 people from your local ren fair in front of a green screen and now I'm dreading the AI hobbit remake with women dwarves or something and also being defensive about not liking that.
jamin
2025-03-17 13:12:20 +0000 UTCdamn A.S. really has a bone to pick with animated movies
Robert de Niro in heat and I’m not apologising
2025-03-16 17:08:39 +0000 UTCThat was great. I could easily have listened to another two hours of that interview; hope you have him back on soon!
sneep
2025-03-16 10:07:04 +0000 UTCOh god I hate that so much. I love LotR and the idea of it being dissected and reanimated for profit (beyond what Amazon did to Rings of Power) is fucking disgusting
Cleo
2025-03-14 03:37:42 +0000 UTCI hope you guys drop an Antony Vives episode of NGNM
Insom
2025-03-13 23:56:38 +0000 UTCWith the mention of LOTR, it does remind me that these companies will use AI to rush out as much content as possible before their properties enter the public domain (such as The Hobbit, which will become public domain within the next 20 years)
shadowcb
2025-03-13 22:08:42 +0000 UTCWow I had no idea they were still around. Saw them play in London back in 2008, so damn good. Love the first two albums, maybe the third as well but hardly remember now it's been so long.
Pilfering Kibble
2025-03-13 21:51:22 +0000 UTCI think there's a statistic like only 9% of new buildings in London have architects now - seems like this is a stat the studios would like to recreate with directors...
Ok bro
2025-03-13 19:31:42 +0000 UTCJean Pierre Melville did not direct Breathless or say the immortal quote, Jean Luc Goddard did! Right after you ding Brady Corbet for forgetting which Hitchcock movie he was thinking about.
Andrew Buchner
2025-03-13 19:14:27 +0000 UTCIn my head, Neom is just an incredibly fucked run of Dwarf Fortress
Noblesse Oblahaj
2025-03-13 16:14:38 +0000 UTCWith Orson Welles we even have a direct example of the fallacy of just plugging a voice in to your project: the famous pea commercial recording session. Welles makes it explicit that -his- reading of the script is the correct one and the director’s instincts are crap. You can’t just plug in sound with the same characteristics as Welles’s voice and get the same results, which is basically what the pea commercial guys wanted.
Oliver Elliott
2025-03-13 14:36:10 +0000 UTCUnrelated but I just saw wolf parade live and my skin is buzzing. Hell yeah. Many thanks to the bottlemen podcast for introducing me to wolf parade as a zillenial who was 6 when their debut album dropped. This was basically my first real concert and it ruled. Mr boeckner rocked out so hard that he broke a guitar string and had to use an emergency guitar until a guy from the opening act replaced it for him. 10/10
miramask
2025-03-13 04:07:57 +0000 UTCThe AI speech thing is incredibly impractical because it’s so expensive and the results are so imperfect. It feels like producers are more trying to prove a point than anything else. In similar situations a decade ago they’d find other solutions, now they settle for mediocre slop.
Diego Corazón
2025-03-13 04:06:36 +0000 UTCThe Respeecher company is actually pretty above-board about replacing the voices of live actors, they require legal permission from the actors involved, unlike ElevenLabs, the other major competitor, who will just take voice samples and do whatever with them.
Diego Corazón
2025-03-13 04:04:15 +0000 UTCI’ve worked on a couple projects now that used Respeecher and it’s always been to replace the voice of either a dead actor or a live actor that couldn’t functionally speak anymore. The defense that you need it to recreate an “authentic” Hungarian accent or whatever seems very false to me; it’s cheaper these days to just do that with dialogue editing techniques and a good dialect coach, as has been done since the 1980s.
Diego Corazón
2025-03-13 04:02:07 +0000 UTC@trashfuture PLEASE talk about Dick Friend and the recent hostility experienced by Tesla owners in Australia and New Zealand. Dick Friend's story needs to be heard. https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/vandalism-weak-sales-hit-tesla-australia-new-zealand-2025-03-12/
Pilfering Kibble
2025-03-13 00:33:52 +0000 UTCGood episode but "Accents don't matter" is an American ass take.
Patrick Clear
2025-03-12 21:55:04 +0000 UTCReally glad someone finally put it to those architecture critics The buildings looked cool and I don’t care to listen to those nerds
Ralph Best
2025-03-12 21:10:34 +0000 UTCI have to say, "accents don't matter at all in movies" is quite a take.
Edamski
2025-03-12 17:32:10 +0000 UTCMark Carneyval is going to really get all the Clowns in Parliement in a row
etienne
2025-03-12 13:15:13 +0000 UTCSame problem with Farley depreciation. smgdh
HoweyYaDoing
2025-03-12 11:57:17 +0000 UTCRandall Jarrell mentioned.
BarFly
2025-03-12 10:52:04 +0000 UTCsmdh, glampflation is out of control
mexicanhalloween .
2025-03-12 04:10:51 +0000 UTCfunny you mention Ed Wood bc the voice actor who played the Brain (of Pinky & the Brain) also voiced Orson Welles in the Ed Wood movie
MI
2025-03-12 03:46:24 +0000 UTCAs a guy who does digital painting Ai art is especially devastating I doubt i will ever make a reasonable amount if money from my art. As if making art wasn't already hard enough.
Elek Tolman
2025-03-12 03:02:05 +0000 UTCIndeed what they DO spend money on instead drives this fury home
Shivvy
2025-03-12 00:59:03 +0000 UTCNever heard Architecture Critic pronounced so much like Honky, truly enjoyable stuff
Shivvy
2025-03-12 00:56:09 +0000 UTCThe Trump Administration's defense is, apparently, going to be pointing to a law that lets the SecDef unilaterally deport any non-citizen that 'inteferes with the foreign policy of the United States.' So I wouldn't be so quick to celebrate; I have a sinking feeling that they're going to sign off on this at the end.
TheArcanist
2025-03-12 00:16:31 +0000 UTCRiley just invented cricket golf
Chad Countiss
2025-03-11 23:38:07 +0000 UTCI always naively figured that the country that brought us Big Ben on steroids could at least get some minuscule portion of NEOM completed but I had too much faith I suppose. Would love if you could do an ep or have a guest on who knows about Oman's own mega project development because it seems to be the only MENA project to acknowledge logistical limitations to any degree.
Neil Y
2025-03-11 23:19:45 +0000 UTCBack in the "bad old days" things were evil but in like ways that make a lot more sense at least. Trashfuture and associated acts make me feel so much more sane because like yeah holy shit nobody does anything anymore. Neoliberal governance is all about NOT going to the moon, NOT building the panama canal, NOT building big bridges and monolithic structures. Criticism abounds for doing all those things and rightly so, but its infuriating to live in a time where the prevailing attitude is just that there is nothing worth doing or spending effort to achieve.
Julia Martin
2025-03-11 21:07:02 +0000 UTCAll these recent movies about architecture do the field and immense disservice. That's why I just throw on the adaptation of The Fountainhead written by Ayn Rand herself.
Andrew Davis
2025-03-11 21:02:55 +0000 UTCBrian Eno once confessed that he liked to tell young people that, back in the bad-old-low-tech-flared-trousered-analogue days things were so backward that you could fly from London to New York in 3.5 hours and people regularly walked on the Moon. He might have added that you could build a modern marvel with significant moral hazards that actually did something.
Andrew Davis
2025-03-11 21:01:29 +0000 UTChelp the bombardier
MI
2025-03-11 20:20:47 +0000 UTCThat interview while about film really sums up the entirety of trashfuture. An aging unchanging elite who refuses to recycle or create new ideas, a lack of new imagery to make sense of the changing times, the contempt of humans generally in the fever dream of neoliberalism and fascism, and information systems that are driving us mad as they become increasingly disconnected from anything real.
jamin
2025-03-11 20:13:35 +0000 UTCGolf actually literally needs a shot clock pro golf is way too slow
Jack Nixon
2025-03-11 20:09:56 +0000 UTCThank you! I was going crazy there for a second, like wait the F-16 is famously THE single seat fighter jet right?
jamin
2025-03-11 19:43:12 +0000 UTCMiguel Arruda ending up with a bunch of bone sawed McKinsey guys.
Ryan
2025-03-11 18:58:15 +0000 UTCCursed thought: The chandelier becomes The Line's only dogging spot as a way to dissuade people with cartoonish levels of danger. It obviously fails, and becomes the most popular spot in the line. Those 19 Americans are Neom passport bros who just dogged too hard. Dogged so hard they catch a terrorism charge.
Tzippi of Tide and Tempest
2025-03-11 18:51:16 +0000 UTCThe concept of a world where machines create art and humans do drudgery is so diseased only Silicon Valley could come up with it.
vercingix
2025-03-11 18:49:28 +0000 UTCEd Wood's artistic vision is what makes "Plan 9 from Outer Space" worth watching. So bad it's good movies are entertaining because of the gap between what the creator was trying to achieve and what they were capable of achieving.
vercingix
2025-03-11 18:47:36 +0000 UTCSoon Hollywood will create a version of "Plan 9 from outer space" without even the limited artistic vision of Ed Wood.
Jprime
2025-03-11 18:38:17 +0000 UTCYeah, you're correct. The F-16b came a few years after the a variant and added a second seat for training.
AU Dark Brandon's Evil Twin [Good person]
2025-03-11 17:18:02 +0000 UTCOr that there is a second seat in an F-16 as opposed to the F-14 which Milo was probably thinking of (there's probably an F-16 variant or trainer with two seats I didn't check.)
BluetoothThePirate
2025-03-11 17:13:19 +0000 UTCmohammed bin sulkin - amazing
Obvious Fakename
2025-03-11 16:34:34 +0000 UTCWonder why people were hiding the truth of a failing project from a guy that responds to slights with judicious bone saw use? It's a mystery that may never be solved.
James Rule
2025-03-11 16:21:51 +0000 UTCAlways love an interview with AS Hamrah!
Nina
2025-03-11 15:51:31 +0000 UTCSurprised November didn't correct Milo calling the 2nd seat in an F16 a "gunner"
AU Dark Brandon's Evil Twin [Good person]
2025-03-11 15:32:16 +0000 UTCRecently I have been reading and consequently obsessing over, The Path Between the Seas, a book about the construction of the panama canal. Its great, super interesting stuff, and NEOM forms the PERFECT other side to the tragedy/farce dichotomy. To think that the mega project of our day is like... a bunch of shitty hotels nobody will use. Say what you want about the panama canal and its construction (theres a lot to say) at least it DOES something, something legitimately cool and important.
Julia Martin
2025-03-11 15:10:33 +0000 UTCThe very last line of defense, for now!
Karl's Declassified
2025-03-11 14:36:25 +0000 UTCThe courts, thankfully, did something about it. His deportation was temporarily blocked. A chilling portent.
Madwoman Madrigal
2025-03-11 14:17:59 +0000 UTCEpic new TF!! so glad I subbed I've been loving going through the backlog of bonus ones hehe
AmeliaaaaAAA
2025-03-11 14:13:08 +0000 UTCI was so bored at work thank you 🙏
Adam Marstons
2025-03-11 14:11:01 +0000 UTC
