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I’m Dave Toaster feat. Jason Koebler

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Must we live in a world where everyone decides we want AI-generated friends to make AI-generated stories (which are fake), or AI-enabled kitchen appliances? When you actually dig into this stuff, it turns out everyone knows it sucks and we hate it. Today’s guest is friend of the show Jason Koebler of 404 Media, who has done the legwork to examine just how stupid it is. Plus, we talk about Elon Musk’s new fixation on the UK, and that strangely sexual, AI-generated video of anthropomorphic animal cops that [Neil Kinnock voice] the Labour Party published?

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Nah, Neuro has been getting more intelligent at a rapid pace. Just yesterday, her creator tried to hit her with the whole "ignore all previous instructions" trick and she both recognized the attempt electrocuted him for it.

t.

Unless you mean the nootropic mints company in New Jersey. They are pretty clever

Jan

Data inconclusive

Jan

“Anti-social network” Hussein back with the heaters.

Uriah Wilson

This may surprise you, but Starmer is actually not quite as intelligent as Neuro.

t.

Crazies in the comments calling the song a pedogang anthem because google translates one line as "young girl" Credulous people asking for any evidence beyond that Enter me posting Beatles song lyrics about explicitly underage girls

Jan

They mention Kier Starmer pretty early on

Jan

Omg, in like a Men in Black way, not an organized crime way. Sorry!

EMC

Petition for someone to wipe the word “libidinal” from Riley’s vocabulary.

EMC

I can’t know how to hear about ‘libidinal’ anymore. Who added this to Riley’s lexicon?

Jimi Smith

Come to Adelaide you pommy dog

Jessie Tazoman

JK Boiling did not get nearly enough love

Shawn Ritchie

well said. added to that the reactionary desire for this servant to always give out middle-of-the-road average solutions to problems — never anything that might rock the boat, but to serve to soothe n feed the biases alrdy present in our cognition w/out the need to ever examine them. the mfn lissenin device bein called amazon echo is so on the nose as the ppl seekin out these "AI" solutions r in all practical terms just narcissus seekin out the perfect pool to wank by.

Paju Salmiluoto

There are better Australian wines than Grange Riley ! Come to Adelaide you dogs I'll have you at my wine bar

Hadyn H. Gay Abbeysme

its the desire for the labor of a human domestic servant able to make adaptive decisions but without having to treat them as a human being owed pay and decency innit. in the ideal world of the ppl who make these things every person is an ultra self sufficient solipsist surrounded by servile objects but without any of the ick of explicit slavery (those need to stay far away at the other end of the production chain pls whetre they cant spoil the fantasy by being poor and miserable)

f

black mirror actually does have an episode about an ai that lives in someone’s toaster lmao (White Christmas segment 1)

Eva

Big congrats and well wishes for Hussein! Hope he can get some rest as able

Rachel K

JK Rowling-boil

Man2quilla

"Anti-social network" goes hard

Man2quilla

It's cool how capitalism destroyed the third space, and will now destroy cyberspace. You'll get to the point where even finding other people you are sure are other people will be hard. Just a Kessler syndrome for human contact

Noblesse Oblahaj

All of their AIs; Out accomplishing nothing, But making it worse

vercingix

This latest in the UK has alerted me to the existence of the Paedophile Information Exchange, who surely must have met down the PIE & Nonce

Josh L

Only the labour party could create such unfuckable looking furries. The Orangina people are shaking their heads.

Noblesse Oblahaj

Deep cut to FONV Old World Blues, my mind went there immediately when the appliances discussion started

Wouter Vermeyen

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/video/2025/jan/07/labour-party-deletes-tiktok-video-after-using-graphic-song-video warning: may cause permanent mental trauma

marilyn

What the fuck is this about canine vaginas?

Kvvvy

I don't think it's as machiavellian as this, but it's a good insight into the power of these sites to influence opinion. The truth of the matter is that these legions of bots have existed for the better part of a decade, set up by third parties with money, and have been largely successful with their influence campaigns. Meta is just deciding that if you can't fight them you should join them, I guess; esp if there's money to be made in targeted advertising when your new friend of 4 months Liv says she loves her new AI dishwasher.

Insom

Try supercook

Austin

Tonight a fight to remember The combined userbase of decentraland and horizon lands vs 1 VR CHAT diaper fur lobby.

Elek Tolman

The Sylvia Plath chatbot in my oven is making me really uncomfortable.

Fluffythecruel

Tommy Robinson AKA Stephen Yaxley-Lennon

Horse Badorties

W/ apologies for ranting to the already on-board but +1 to the de-skilling and esp Hussein’s point about cooking and care and humanity: MY OVEN has a WINDOW AND A LIGHT and that’s how I can TELL WHEN SHIT IS DONE. ALSO BY COOKING FOR YEARS AND LEARNING. FURTHERMORE, as someone who grew up with mechanical consumer goods and worked in Computers OBVIOUSLY THIS IS IS GOING TO SHORTEN THE ITEMS’ LIFESPANS also hmm. where is that cost going?? /end rant

Shivvy

Is the Spanish bathroom cabinet…single? Asking for a friend

Shivvy

"Howdy doodley-doo! How's it going? I'm Talkie! Talkie Toaster, your chirpy breakfast companion! Talkie's the name, toasting's the game! Anyone like any toast?!"

Sammi

I had to explain this comment to someone, making my life quantifiably worse. Thank you.

James Rule

"The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas," except it's Elon in the hole in the basement.

Jack Fennell

Welcome back, Big Daddy Hussein!

Shivvy

Milo going off about stupid technology already, and it's not even a week into 2025. *chefskiss*

Suggestive Cacti

with our new character line of appliances you too can pretend to have a bunch of house slaves, that'll be eleventy thousand human dollars please

kaninchen ZERO

If you haven’t read SUPERGOD it’s time to do it before Elon turns himself into Jerry Craven

MCL

Dead Internet Theory? No. How about Dead Internet Business Model? Now there's the money. .

James Rule

Not the steppe horseman, the horseman that stepped up

Josh L

The smart AI-infused washer dryer combo in my apartment has an app. I’m not sure what purpose the app serves because I still have to manually load an unload the machine so remotely running a wash from my phone from the other room doesn’t really help me. Also the only function of the AI is the “AI Wash” and “AI Wash + Dry” settings where the machine does the same exact thing as the “Wash” and “Wash + Dry” settings except now you don’t get to tell it the water temperature or spin speed anymore

Mark Patsy

It burns the toast, passive-aggressively

Fatticus Inch

imo there's a blind spot in this discussion of "who wants genAI bot users on social media" which has nothing to do with any company's profit margin. The more that a human userbase can be diluted with convincing-ish bots, the greater the degree of control over users' perception of social consensus. You can't have a real one-on-one conversation with these things but in large numbers they're more than capable of shifting the balance of what goes viral or who gets dogpiled. This "hall of mirrors" is highly desirable to anyone with an interest in manufacturing consent or sidelining dissent. Musk's biggest customer isn't advertisers, it's the US defense department. We passed the point where profitability was the main concern of any of these tech giants decades ago, and we need to reckon with what we're really facing now: a chimera of corporate and state power which supersedes the market economy for the broader purpose of imperial population management.

Karl Childers

I hear "Have a more personal, human relationship with your dryer" and my brain instantly goes "Step dryer, I'm stuck in the sister machine and I can't get out!"

Sammi

I have a parasocial relationship with this comment section.

Josep C.

Thanks to AI, your kitchen table polycule can include the kitchen table too

Insom

The toaster with an AI personality is very Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy

Kieran Shook-Parker

Yeah, realizing it's been close to 20 years since I watched it. All I remember was 'ouch, this hits close to home'. Hopefully less personal now.

Peter 'power__mac' MacDonald

Hussein! Yay!

Alistair SM J

oh damn i actually remember that. not saying it was bad at all but FUCK that series was depressing

Karl Childers

I'm turning into that guy who begged DougDoug to colab with Neuro for like 9 months in a row...

t.

The socially ackward loner that haluncinates his household appliances are his friends, and forms a suicide pact with his maybe imaginary friend was already a pretty good anime. 2006s "welcome to the nhk. " I think it's streaming on funimation.

Peter 'power__mac' MacDonald

Once again a discussion of AI chatbots with no mention of Britain's premier LLM...

t.

Oh no steppe horseman I’m stuck in the ox cart

pelicans123

Welcome back Hussein, and also sorry that we still live in hell

pelicans123

children's author: I wrote my children's classic The Brave Little Toaster as a cautionary tale tech company: Finally we have created the (I presume?) rebellious toaster from classic children's story The Brave Little Toaster

marilyn

It annoys me so much that it's still online in archive mode, unable to accept uploads

Donovan Burns

I HAVE GLUE IN MY FREEZER SO IT LASTS LONGER! I WILL NOT PUT IT ON PIZZA, THANK YOU TRASHFUTURE!!!

stonebum

WE HAD A TECHNOLOGY FOR WHAT IF I ALL I HAVE I A BUNCH OF RANDOM FOOD! It was called the internet. And before every single recipe blog on the first 2 pages was SEO spam you could search said internet by putting in the food you had and find new ideas to cook. Yes it was weird and dumb or posh or whatever sometimes but at least it was people trying shit.

jamin

JK Boiling is amazing. Also the only use case for this kind of AI seems to be funny memes on Instagram occasionally

Poseylock Jimmismits

The TF crew are just slightly too young for that terrifying children’s classic The Brave Little Toaster. I was afraid to upset an appliance in case it decided to turn against me. I guess I’m still afraid my appliances are working against me…

TradescantiaHaven

Where are you, Tom? 🥲

Poseylock Jimmismits

We need to bring MySpace back

Poseylock Jimmismits

when will keir starmer be held accountable for his culpability in allowing furry Portuguese grooming gangs to roam the streets and punch British pussies #protectourgirls #DeportLusitanians

marilyn

dudes never stop rocking

MI

someone sure found an off-label use for meta smart glasses, so zuckerborg did in fact imagine something that another person would want. and of course there's the ai-generated kiddie p0rn bots

MI

Carley They/Themsen

The Labour Party has finally found its true core demographic, the furry community

marilyn

Yesssss I saw that story about the Labour TikTok earlier and was immediately certain that TF would have fun with it

marilyn


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