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The Dawning of the Sealord feat. Shanti Singh

This week, Riley, Milo, Hussein, and Alice join special guest Shanti Singh for her second-ever appearance on TF, to discuss recent recall campaigns and dark money activism funded through San Francisco's intensely authoritarian libertarian VC guys. However, before we can talk about that, we have to talk about a startup that wants to build sea pods, presumably so that you can pay rent to a sealord.

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Update on the sea pods https://www.reddit.com/r/ThatLookedExpensive/comments/xwxlk8/15_million_floating_home_prototype_sinks_into_the/ The prototype sunk.

Cameron Nursall

The startup reminds me of the Thunder Horse PDQ, which almost sank in the Gulf of Mexico during hurricane Dennis. The automatic ballast system failed and when they returned to the platform it was listing at a severe angle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunder_Horse_PDQ . So I'm not that confident that a startup is going to make it work.

Pim de Groot

I love the reference to raft. Don't know if it's still the case in the game, but I would like to imagine buying this 1.5 mil house, visiting a random island, forgetting to tie or anchor, then your 1.5 mil house floats away so far that the island you are on despawns.

DukeNukem64x

Now I’m homesick for SF and it’s deranged politics.

James Cézanne-Taipale

I am astonished that this sea home concept has come up with the thing that they did rather than using the same principle as the FLiP research platform. That works too good?

Eric Brennan

I'll start taking these nerds seriously when they manage to recruit a First-Sword till then I question their viability.

Andrew Strzelinski

early UNIX guys knew that they were oppressed by evil corporations so they built a libertarian decentralized net to free themselves and then barely 20 years later 4 *different* corporations took that over and resumed oppressing them. it's really fascinating. failing at ideology speedrun

etienne

vague memories of one of those google barges showing up in Portland, Maine overnight, which is the only thing that has ever happened in Maine, and the news coverage being just “the fuck is this ugly piece of shit in the harbor?” Good marketing from google there.

ellie

okay but wait a sec here. It just came out that the head of the organization in charge for building *public housing* in SF was blocking projects on like vacant lots by ordering completely bs studies on racial discrimination impacts and never getting them done and leaving the project die. there *is* an entranched anti-building power in SF, it's just not the DSA, and people who fight against it aren't just billionaires, it's litteral public housing advocates

etienne

okay to be fair to the seastading weirdoes, I know from first hand experience that a lot of boomers like to buy a plot of so-far un-developable land, go there by car, stopping at the grocery and the gas station on the way, buy firewood at the store along with a couple newspaper, camp there for one weekend, and think, ah! I am meaningfully isolated from society! and then get into protracted fights with the county administration over snow removal contracts in order to secure the permit for a country house

etienne

This startup sounds like the so-called CEO of this company played Subnautica one time and was like, "What if we made this IRL?".

Oliver Cant

Either I'm going crazy or this has been on the show before, because I already had Ocean Builders in my browser history

Nemo

It's never a good sign when Jacksonville gets brought up.

Things Shall Get Loud Now

we're all just krill waiting to be eaten by shrimp or some kind of whale

etienne

We're in Waterworld now. Live in the pod, eat the sea bug, and use crypto.

Josep C.

Is anyone else having trouble accessing the episode on the podcast RSS feed?

Paul Graham

When the pooman fuck your Wife

Mackenzie Toscan

Hmm.... wonder when the turn from Neoliberal-but-Progressive to "There is a Woke Cabal keeping us down" amongst the techies was relative to the broader realization that algorithmic oppression is a thing. That's a serious question btw. It was a year between the publication of Cathy O'Neil's Weapons of Math Destruction (2016) and the James Dalmore memo (2017). How good those are as bench-marks ¯\_ツ_/¯, but those were both early, strong impulses for me to turn to Luddism. The tech bro version of my life might have had me turning into an Anti-Woke psycho instead.

Ijon Tichy

It's really hard to articulate how irrelevant yet domineering San Francisco is in California, like if Canterbury was actually where all the politics was in the UK instead of London.

Andrew Davis

Hey my cousin is working on this one. Kinda figured it was bullshit when he moved to Panama and started spamming everyone with emails asking them to "invest"

DeltaEvanescent

it is so disorienting right now listening to anything recorded in britain before the 8th because it's all like...quaint place-setting now. This episode is like Remember Me, the camera pans out at the very end to reveal they've been recording inside the Queen the whole time

G Goldhar

Poundbury is the British equivalent of pound Town

Connor Lohenry


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