There was a game called Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon, where you try and find the closest connection another actor has to Kevin Bacon
Dusty Hill
2025-08-08 00:55:49 +0000 UTC
Been watching the show for decades - that end scene still gets me every time. They nailed it. Lovely reaction :)
godlesswonder
2025-08-02 14:45:07 +0000 UTC
I always got the feeling that Andrew being on the show in Season 7 was some backroom Hollywood deal they made, because his presence really does not fit. Maybe that's why they wrote him in, and give him idiotic throw-away lines, that are really not funny, not even when they were current. He comes off as traumatized to the point of being inside out, not knowing what he is doing or saying.
The fact that the First was desperate not to have him in the house with Buffy, tho, means that the writers may have a bigger plan, but I sure can't see it now. That scene with Dawn in this episode, I guess was designed to show he has something on the ball, but it kind of was just sad. He seems like a delusional loser character, only capable of dumb ideas.
I get that in season 6 he was there to show how Warren could dominate people and get away with it, but only with other loser boys, not with women or even demons. Andrew seems like a victim of bullying that has come to be comfortable being bullied, and so invites it. It is weird to see Dawn bully him, I mean she should be over doing that by now, and it kind of tarnishes her character the way the writers have her keep doing it.
Perhaps Andrew's role in the show is to demonstrate how everyone (except Giles) has lost their moral compass, and is capable of lashing out and treating people badly.
spikeysnack
2025-08-02 07:50:10 +0000 UTC
"neandervamps"
spikeysnack
2025-08-02 07:28:38 +0000 UTC
Burdens. Things you have to bear. The first started going on about the weight of the world, (a recurring theme, sometimes subtext, sometimes they like to just bring it out front). The slayers are starting to feel it, and its heavy. Buffy realizes they need to know what the burden is, and how to take it up when the time comes.
They aren't ready.
When Spike felt the weight of his soul, he wondered if he could bear it, but one thing the First has shown him is he can, he can bear anything for Buffy, to be her man, faithful at last, and forever.
Willow understands that it is her fear, (of herself) that she must face, because running away from yourself leaves you lost, and in the worst way, but still there you are, staring out the same old eyeballs.
BelJoxa spitting bare facts at Anya and Giles was funny because it shows that without the context the facts are almost useless, and can lead you to misinterpreting them.
Another theme of Buffy is that Sunnydale is where you go if you are evil to "shoot your shot" or "make your bones" as a Big Bad. All the Big Bads so far came to Sunnydale as some kind of Big Opportunity for Evil Glory and I guess fame in the eyes of the Powers or their peers.
It could just be that the hellmouth amplifies the evil mojo and that they think it will improve their karmic resonance (of evil) so that they can make the big score. There seems to be a scoreboard of legendary evil triumphs, and those that did the most damage I guess get to be Princes of Hell or whatever. It also seems to make you "cooler" to everyone and raises your status. The Demon world and the way Hell works still seems very Old Royal class-based society, very medieval and of course power based. I am sure there is slavery, and we have seen fascistic cults. The First may want to raise its profile as it is apparently not too famous anymore, being older than everything.
If so it seems very petty playing games with a vampire slayer, scaring young girls, leading a bunch of eyeless hood rats around.
This whole 7th season feels different -- it is structured different, shot different. The end fight was really one of the better fight scenes with people flying around and illustrating the brutal reality of the kill. both this and the last episode together.
spikeysnack
2025-08-02 07:23:24 +0000 UTC
God...Rona is the absolute worst! Whine, whine, whine. Bitch and moan.
aeronitz
2025-08-01 03:47:04 +0000 UTC
My only real complaint about this episode was that I got the idea that Buffy had discovered or figured out something special about how to defeat the Turok-han that would be revealed in the climactic fight. But all she seemed to need was a better space to fight in and an audience. Hm.
This episode is where I think I began to lose some patience with the potential slayers. Too much whining and complaining. But then that was the point of Buffy showing them what she could do, to give them some faith in her.
Beljoxa's Eye was another fun demon with attitude ("What am I, talkin' to myself, here? There's no way!"), but it didn't really have anything useful to add.
Huh, looks like I actually have a lot of complaints. 😊
DanielOrme
2025-07-31 03:25:55 +0000 UTC
Oh, and Andrew's reference to the Justice League was specifically referencing the three-part pilot episode of the TV series "Justice League" that started in 2001. That would have been just a year old when they made this episode, so it was very recent for him.
JBK405
2025-07-31 00:17:32 +0000 UTC
Personally, I think Timothy Dalton is actually the best Bond. He was given great material in his two films, and he did great things with what he was given. It's definitely a minority opinion, but to me he's #1.
JBK405
2025-07-31 00:07:10 +0000 UTC
The Master also said this in Season 1
carly powell
2025-07-30 23:36:31 +0000 UTC
We in the buffyverse fandom call them "Uber-Vamps". Easier to remember than ... ... whatever they're called.
Brandon Scott
2025-07-30 20:22:58 +0000 UTC
"I'm actually enjoying this actor this season"
Absolutely this! Even if you don't really care about Andrew's presence, the actor (Tom Lenk) is probably my favourite of S7.
Antonio
2025-07-30 20:10:26 +0000 UTC
This episode lowkey reminded me of how far Willow has come, as a character. She's gone from the mousey shy girl to a self-confident young woman to an arrogant young woman, and now she's working on regaining a healthier sense of confidence and getting back to herself. Love to see it, and in this episode her reticence to use magic reminded me of nervous, early season Willow who didn't have much faith in her abilities.
Glad you're starting to enjoy Andrew, and shamefully, I did get all of his references instantly. But Thunderdome is a ref to a Mad Max movie, where two people are thrown in the Thunderdome to duke it out to the death while people chant "Two men enter, one man leaves". And that Ubervamp ain't going nowhere.
Someone's maybe already said this but whatever, the Ubervamp is played by the late Camden Toy, a frequent "face" in the Buffyverse. He played one of the Gentlemen in Hush, and the Gnarl from earlier in the season. I love his theatrical, thought-out way of moving for these creatures and how he shaded them with character only through gesture and expression; as good as the make-up was, a good performance through that make-up is what makes a memorable monster and he has some of the most memorable ones in Buffy, which isn't lacking for them.
Jorgalorg
2025-07-30 19:58:54 +0000 UTC
"Here endeth the lesson."
No doubt a callback to when Spike said the same phrase in Fool for Love, right after he finished telling Buffy how he killed two slayers. And then in the final scene for this episode we see Buffy rescuing Spike. This episode is a very fitting ending for the five-episode arc we've just had.
It's also not until this episode that we realize the true consequences of bringing Buffy back from the dead in season 6. Everything that's happening this season is the true price for her resurrection. Obviously I'm glad they brought her back, as this wouldn't be much of a show without the titular character, but oftentimes supernatural shows bring back dead characters way too easily with little, if any, real consequence for doing so. I like that now we're seeing the consequences.
Also I like that you're trying to keep track of whether or not Giles has touched anything or anyone. I remember doing the same thing when I rewatched this season
Steve Quast
2025-07-30 19:27:37 +0000 UTC
Thunderdome (as a place where a fight will take place) is a reference to the Mad Max film
I think that Timothy Dalton is a good James Bond. His tenure was cut short because the end of the Cold War meant that, what a James Bond movie would be about was unclear.
James Smith
2025-07-30 18:59:37 +0000 UTC
Also yes that's the girl from Lizzy McGuire
Jason Harrelson
2025-07-30 18:54:53 +0000 UTC
Not you manifesting Eve being the First just seconds before they found her body 😂
anna
2025-07-30 18:54:30 +0000 UTC
You've called the potentials slayers many times and it makes me wonder if you know they don't actually have any power or strength as it relates to the slayer lineage.