When Cordy and Groo got knocked out Holtz went through the portal opening.
Morgan Williams
2025-04-18 16:41:54 +0000 UTC
It's still loose, still people go with people with a big age gap inbetween.
Morgan Williams
2025-04-18 16:11:34 +0000 UTC
I think Conner is supposed to be 16 here.
Morgan Williams
2025-04-18 16:10:00 +0000 UTC
It was a susie q from hostess.
Morgan Williams
2025-04-18 16:08:05 +0000 UTC
Your confusion over the spoon was so pure, omg.
Test User
2025-04-18 00:18:58 +0000 UTC
He's also four and a half years OLDER than the actress who played Sunny, who was 18 when this was filmed and aired.
El
2025-04-17 23:20:42 +0000 UTC
of course Wesley's a betrayer... especially from the rest of the group's perspective...
madfem
2025-04-17 22:19:49 +0000 UTC
The two major food groups, meat and chocolate, sounds great!
The thing you were thinking of with serial killers is actually two separate things; the trophies (the things they take from their crimes) and calling cards (the things they leave at the scene of the crime to let people know it was them).
James Smith
2025-04-17 21:30:38 +0000 UTC
Vincent Kartheiser does look young, but was 23 here. I don't know if they mention Connors age but I'm assuming it's 18ish
Jason Harrelson
2025-04-17 17:13:47 +0000 UTC
Cass you look SO AWAKE in this video!
They made a point of saying that something could have come through the dimensional tear while Groo and Cordy were unconscious, so we can assume Holtz returned there.
I love the "grounded" threat in this episode with Tyke: He's just a drug dealer with NO connection to anything supernatural. We've seen plenty of human criminals in this series, but they're almost always connected to the supernatural in some way. Sometimes they have demons hired as muscle, or they hire Wolfram & Hart as their lawyers, or they just make remarks about how they're 'aware' of what's going on in LA. This guy is just a creep with a gun pushing heroin, and it doesn't need to be anything more than that for him to have a body count and ruin lives.
Likewise the tragedy with Sunny. We've seen plenty of traumatized young women connected to the supernatural, but she was apparently traumatized by normal life and was just caught up in poverty and addiction. She didn't need a curse or visions or A Destiny to push her to this point, just...life. As you noted, it's very dark.
Yes, Lilah was calling Wesley a sinner and betrayer for his actions. One conversation certainly won't be enough to get Wesley to Turn Evil, but if it's the first of many conversations and starts laying the groundwork...