BC March Madness 2025 - Day 15
Added 2025-03-15 18:00:09 +0000 UTCI bet you Alan Moore himself would be shocked by these results - LXG et al move on to the next round!
Up today, a couple of grumps.
It's Old Men Matthau/Lemmon vs Christmas Coal.
With Old Men Matthau/Lemmon, we'd cover four films that the dynamic duo made towards the end of their career:
Grumpy Old Men (1993)
Grumpier Old Men (1995)
Out to Sea (1997)
The Odd Couple II (1998)
With Christmas Coal, we'd cover four holiday films that rank among the worst of all time:
Santa Claus Conquers the Martians
Santa Claus: The Movie
Fred Claus
Red One
Which sourpuss takes it?
Comments
One is glorious and the other is filled with the worst holiday shit possible. Le sigh.
Josh Mclane
2025-03-17 16:15:05 +0000 UTCHence the name!
DDrive
2025-03-17 16:12:18 +0000 UTCOh. this is madness
z
2025-03-16 18:34:01 +0000 UTCThe winners of the whole bracket(s) are the only ones guaranteed to be covered this year. They may cover a lot of the directors and franchises in here *eventually*, but that could be 1 year, 5 years, 10 years, even longer away, these all take months to do and add up.
Ross Kroeber
2025-03-16 18:30:33 +0000 UTCI’m new this year and have been confused all month. What does it matter who wins March madness (Patreon or main)? Aren’t they going to cover all the poll winners?
z
2025-03-16 18:11:24 +0000 UTCNo Vaughn thanks. He maga.
Danielle
2025-03-16 17:49:21 +0000 UTCOld Men Matthau and Lemon really should include JFK
Alex Berg
2025-03-16 17:12:00 +0000 UTCChristmas Coal needs to include Santa Claus vs The Devil
Jose S. De Leon
2025-03-16 17:04:54 +0000 UTCThis feels like the 2024 US election. Remember who was on what side when the history books are written.
ryan mcgrath
2025-03-16 15:42:30 +0000 UTCBlazing Saddles is the other thing a lot of people see that has David Huddleston in it. He's one of the townspeople.
Anthony Strand
2025-03-16 13:25:27 +0000 UTCGriffin seemed really excited about the idea of Christmas Coal in a recent episode. I don't remember which one.
Anthony Strand
2025-03-16 13:20:28 +0000 UTCI caught Santa Claus Vs. The Martians on public access in Austin, TX, one night after ACL like 15 years ago - it's truly dire without the MST3K treatment. Was trying to use it as background noise to go to bed and I'm not sure it's even worth that. Anyway, this particular stand-off is fine (I ended up voting Christmas Coal), but I can't imagine Griffin or David are champing at the bit for either of these categories. Still hoping for a PK Dick victory at the end; to my mind, those have the right ratio of highs to lows that make for a fun Patreon series.
Sam Wickersham
2025-03-16 02:28:23 +0000 UTCGet Doughboys on a Red One ep
Jack R
2025-03-16 02:11:34 +0000 UTCOh come on, late Matthau/Lemmon would be amazing. Not only is it older people being funny and cute but the movies are horny!
Jessica
2025-03-16 01:48:23 +0000 UTCVote for the Claus It’s for a good cause
Josh Harvey
2025-03-16 01:43:01 +0000 UTCI watched Santa Claus the Movie all the time, had it on VHS, and nobody would ever know what I was talking about. Give it that blank check bump!
Ryan Caldwell
2025-03-16 01:33:54 +0000 UTCRed One commentary is this year's DND commentary, could go all the way on the heat of 1 pick.
overthebw
2025-03-16 00:48:59 +0000 UTCHonestly? I know it might not, but I hope Santa wins the whole thing. The Santa Clause commentaries were hilarious. Plus, since the movies suck, you don't have to worry about watching them beforehand without commentary if you've never seen them. #santasquad #christmasinmarch
glenn clothes
2025-03-16 00:46:24 +0000 UTCIt is CRIMINAL that Matthau/Lemon isn’t winning
Nick Maddox
2025-03-16 00:38:35 +0000 UTCThis is ‘Santa with Muscles’ erasure
Alexander Annand
2025-03-16 00:26:02 +0000 UTCOld Man Matthau/Lemmon raised me
Maricela Gonzalez
2025-03-16 00:10:21 +0000 UTCDO IT FOR BEN
Stan
2025-03-15 21:58:59 +0000 UTCLets get grumpy!!!
Tom
2025-03-15 21:56:34 +0000 UTCHonestly, the gang doing commentary on a couple of the original unedited movies featured on MST3K would be a kinda fun mini
Brian Schellenberg
2025-03-15 21:49:45 +0000 UTCI have misjudged the winner on almost every one of these first round patreon matchups
Kenneth Chambers
2025-03-15 21:36:17 +0000 UTCI remember as a child being very excited at “getting” that the commercialization of Christmas was the real villain (spoilers?) all along and have been very lukewarm in Christmas ever since
David Ranallo
2025-03-15 21:29:58 +0000 UTCI mean Fred claus is a canonical griffin is always bursting to talk about movie and I’d kill to hear all his red one takes
Jay Kay
2025-03-15 20:47:27 +0000 UTCI had Santa Claus: the Movie: The Storybook as a kid and have never watched the movie. If it wins, maybe I finally will.
DRC
2025-03-15 20:45:01 +0000 UTCI'm voting XMas mainly for those dang Martians (Any interest in adding the 1959 Mexican Santa Claus movie to the lineup?)
Jeffrey Malone
2025-03-15 20:44:04 +0000 UTCGross
Good
2025-03-15 20:40:15 +0000 UTCWhy is Santa winning? No way y’all like those dog shit movies
Good
2025-03-15 20:40:06 +0000 UTC90s movies of course! The grumpy old men deserve a rewatch. I loved those movies growing up.
Good
2025-03-15 20:39:30 +0000 UTCI don’t think either are making it to the final, and that’s ok!
Reuben
2025-03-15 20:34:45 +0000 UTCNot wild about either, but I do love the idea of finally making David watch Red One.
Les Chappell
2025-03-15 20:31:49 +0000 UTCI wanna hear the boys talk about old spice cologne for 6 hours!
Taylor Creery
2025-03-15 20:31:24 +0000 UTCSanta Claus Conquers the Martians makes Christmas Coal the obvious choice here. That movie is insane in the best possible way.
Brandon Melling
2025-03-15 20:23:32 +0000 UTCMy wife loves Santa Claus: The Movie (a childhood favourite). I think it's just okay, a little boring. John Lithgow is unsurprisingly great as the villain. Might be the only other movie I've seen The Big Lebowski in (as Santa).
Justin Burgess
2025-03-15 20:10:01 +0000 UTCA Christmas Coal series would really help out my annual holiday BC re-listens…I love hearing the boys lose their minds over Polar Express and Christmas Carol, and more holiday themed eps would really round out the ol’ Xmas binge
Joanna Patterson
2025-03-15 19:53:23 +0000 UTCFred Clause and Red One seal it
Jay Kay
2025-03-15 19:50:19 +0000 UTCI know they aren’t (that) old in it but the fact they wouldn’t do odd couple one is kind of bummer.
Jed Vrazo
2025-03-15 19:37:54 +0000 UTCThis sucks lol
Cordlessphone12
2025-03-15 19:33:42 +0000 UTCAbstain
Regis L
2025-03-15 19:29:46 +0000 UTCThose Christmas movies are kinda enjoyable.
David McCallum
2025-03-15 19:24:00 +0000 UTCThis is the Hindenburg of choices! Oh the humanity!
John W
2025-03-15 19:21:10 +0000 UTCwow lemmon/matthau was my reddit request a few months back. VOTE OLD!
D
2025-03-15 19:18:27 +0000 UTCIf you want a commentary on Santa Claus Conquers the Martians, go watch Mystery Science Theater 3000. Speaking of products of Minnesota, the Grumpy Old Men movies are a lot of fun.
Brian Schellenberg
2025-03-15 19:17:13 +0000 UTCI want to hear about red one because I’m not going to put the effort myself into figuring out how bad it is.
Matt
2025-03-15 19:14:23 +0000 UTCI feel Santa With Muscles should be included here…
Jason Feffer
2025-03-15 19:12:55 +0000 UTCWhoever wins, we lose.
JFox
2025-03-15 19:12:53 +0000 UTCCoal all the way!
John-Paul
2025-03-15 19:11:48 +0000 UTCMERRY XMAS BITCHES
sheabobay
2025-03-15 19:09:37 +0000 UTCThe original Two Friends
Charlotte Langdon
2025-03-15 19:01:31 +0000 UTCThose of you who voted for bad movies in previous rounds just to make David suffer, do you regret it now?
Bairbre
2025-03-15 18:58:26 +0000 UTCThe Grumpy Old Men movies are what my heart wants, but there's more variety in the Santa movies.
Charlie Wetherington
2025-03-15 18:51:34 +0000 UTCWhoever wins, we lose
Ruairi Carroll
2025-03-15 18:47:55 +0000 UTCI need to hear them pay off the Red One runner so badly. Vote for Christmas Coal!!
Tashmon Dimps
2025-03-15 18:45:15 +0000 UTCWow cannot believe that got berenstain bearsed in my mind, would have sworn it was Lemmon & Matthau.
big red robot
2025-03-15 18:43:21 +0000 UTCFred Claus is *so* incredibly bad, I have to vote for it!
Steve Runyon
2025-03-15 18:42:54 +0000 UTCBonus episode... The friends go ice fishing!
Terry Ballard
2025-03-15 18:38:56 +0000 UTCDon’t worry, there’s plenty of casual Red One dumping in at least a dozen mainfeed episodes so far and it’ll probably be mentioned in another 20 to come.
Jon-Erik Means
2025-03-15 18:38:55 +0000 UTCTbh I don't want any of this.
Keef
2025-03-15 18:36:22 +0000 UTCGrumpy old men! I just want them to watch the bloopers 😆 “Looks like Chuck’s taking the skin boat to tuna town”
Chris Lynch
2025-03-15 18:34:46 +0000 UTCI've changed my vote 3 times, and just need to get on with my life!
Robert Carroll
2025-03-15 18:26:37 +0000 UTCI know what the right and virtuous answer is, and I also want to hear them dump on Red One for 90 minutes.
John Halski
2025-03-15 18:23:48 +0000 UTCI can’t defend why but it fully counts
Kibblesmith
2025-03-15 18:16:58 +0000 UTCI feel like the 2 Friends haven't learned their lesson about how watching multiple bad movies doesn't make for the best "commentary" track (talking Claus here)
GrrNoise
2025-03-15 18:16:57 +0000 UTCMy usual profile pic is Chochem from Santa Claus Conquers the Martians, I can't not pick Christmas Coal.
Tereglith
2025-03-15 18:16:13 +0000 UTCGrumpy Old Men was the funniest shit ever when I was 11. I need to see how they hold up.
Ryan Hennessy
2025-03-15 18:16:13 +0000 UTCWhy would I want four bad Santa Claus movies where they're like, "This is bad. How much time is left?" for a non-insignificant portion. I get that it's more of a hook than Lemmon/Matthau (just do Billy Wilder, which would be breezy and everyone would/should be grateful for), but also... no thank you.
Holden Martinson
2025-03-15 18:15:57 +0000 UTCI feel like there's a crowd that just votes for the worst movies, and I don't get it. We can get good bits and good conversation with a decent movie in the background, honest.
Seth Johnson
2025-03-15 18:15:54 +0000 UTCI was surprised that My Fellow Americans wasn't included too, but it turns out that was James Garner, not Walter Matthau.
Liz Norris
2025-03-15 18:15:17 +0000 UTCOLD PEOPLE!
Spencer Asmann
2025-03-15 18:15:10 +0000 UTCChristmas Coal honestly sounds like one of the most fun ideas in the whole bracket
Jake Vogt
2025-03-15 18:15:00 +0000 UTCI am indeed pondering it
Rad Rodge
2025-03-15 18:13:05 +0000 UTCI'm currently working my way through the Dungeons and Dragons commentary, and they are pretty locked in. My only minor complaint is that I wish they'd watch the movies ahead of time so they at least know the plot
youngthugisthegreatestlivingrapper
2025-03-15 18:11:43 +0000 UTCI mean if you like the episodes where they check out on the movie and talk about anything else for two hours
Douglas “Scoop” Reinhardt
2025-03-15 18:07:50 +0000 UTCOut to sea is quite funny
Jack o Diamonds
2025-03-15 18:07:31 +0000 UTCChristmas coal, and it’s not even close
Njord
2025-03-15 18:07:03 +0000 UTCI really think that if Ben hasn't seen it, he would get a genuine kick out of Out to Sea. Voting Grumpy Old Men for that alone but also because these are some fine movies.
Janine Liberty
2025-03-15 18:06:45 +0000 UTCWhat does it say about this entire enterprise and us people willingly trapped in it that the votes are always this close
Kibblesmith
2025-03-15 18:06:42 +0000 UTCIf Christmas Coal wins I will riot.
herb
2025-03-15 18:06:41 +0000 UTCDisappointed there's no My Fellow Americans. I'm sure my memories of that film at like age ten would hold up.
big red robot
2025-03-15 18:06:15 +0000 UTCWhoever wins, we lose. What terrible choices, haha.
Michael Curley
2025-03-15 18:05:48 +0000 UTC🎄
Austin McDougle
2025-03-15 18:05:28 +0000 UTCDECADE OF GRUMPY OLD DREAMS
Don’t Sleep
2025-03-15 18:05:22 +0000 UTCMatthau Lemmon has to win, just for the outtakes in the grumpy old mens
Andrew Wyslotsky
2025-03-15 18:04:51 +0000 UTCChristmas Coal sounds miserable.
Brian T Arnold
2025-03-15 18:04:27 +0000 UTCI watch along, and I tend to have a better time when the guys are actually enjoying the movie. No way do I want to actually watch Red One!
Tobey
2025-03-15 18:04:26 +0000 UTCChristmas Coal NEEDS to win the tournament, it's such an amazing run of terrible movies that would make for insane commentaries
youngthugisthegreatestlivingrapper
2025-03-15 18:04:11 +0000 UTCI implore you to watch a clip or trailer from Santa Claus Conquers the Martians before voting!
James O'Brien
2025-03-15 18:03:13 +0000 UTCRED ONE RED ONE RED ONE
Thomas Blake
2025-03-15 18:02:55 +0000 UTCObviously Santa Claus oh my god
Khar
2025-03-15 18:02:27 +0000 UTCGet Red One outta here, heard enough from Griffin about The Rock (usually whenever Vin Diesel comes up) to last a lifetime. Sometimes we can just leave yesterday’s soulless boring blockbuster as is, without puffing it up to some spectacular proof of industry deterioration for two hours
Ross Kroeber
2025-03-15 18:01:21 +0000 UTC
