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BC MARCH MADNESS 2025 - Day 9

The Sandman is victorious - Happy Madison moves on to the next round! To Leslie Nielsen, we can only say one thing. "Let 'er rip."

Up today, a tale of two Jackies.

It's ELMORE LEONARD ADAPTATIONS vs POLICE STORY.

With Elmore Leonard, we'd cover four films:
Get Shorty
Jackie Brown
Out of Sight
Be Cool

With Police Story, we'd cover five:
Police Story
Police Story 2
Police Story 3: Supercop
Crime Story
First Strike

Who moves on to the Sweet Sixteen?

Comments

No 52 Pickup? No the Big Bounce? No Life of Crime? No Cat Chaser? I should have read the fine print.

Zach Neal

I'm just gonna sit down for 10 years and wait for a time when people finally take their head out of their ass about Jackie Chan.

Alex Takacs

yeah, same. :I

Regis L

100% agree on your Be Cool take.

Crash Calhoun

I have read a ton of Elmore Leonard and love his movie adaptations. However, Police Story would yield some amazing reactions and Be Cool is the shittiest thing I've maybe ever seen in a theater.

colony of birchmen

Cmon it’s gotta be police story what are y’all doin

bscronin

I can only assume that The Big Bounce is excluded from the Elmore Leonard series only because it happens to be one of the worst films of all time.

Marzi Margo

This is an incredible matchup for Round 1, both so great that it could honestly be the Finals. Jackie deserves to go much further in the bracket, but backdooring into perhaps the individual best films of Soderbergh, Tarantino, and Sonnenfeld is just too powerful.

Nick

Man, all my favorites are losing this year.

Ryan Baker

Jackie Brown…you mean my wife?

Jack R

Rush Hour or Shanghai Noon/Knights series would give more to talk about with less movies.

Will McLaren

They should’ve made it rumble in the Bronx . rush hours movies . first strike . who am I. Those would’ve been way better than a police story.

Good

Elmore Leonard all the way

awoodring

Because you all know what does commentaries gonna be like. It’s a waste of three months. And I love Jackie Chan but for commentaries no thank you

Good

I love police stories but just like John Wick is it gonna be three months of “Oh wow awesome” Jackie Brown is 10 times better commentary

Good

Was looking forward to the near zero possibility of "supercop: the cop that can't be stopped"

Eoin Joy

Really bummed police story is so far behind. Have the crew ever talked Jackie Chan? I can’t remember a time.

Wyatt Smith

It’s a shame Police Story won’t win because even if ACAB, the first Police Story is hands down the greatest action movie ever.

Patrick Pottorff

Should include either Mr. Majestyk or 3:10 to Yuma imo

longhornsteve

Had to go police story, I hope we somehow get Rumble in the Bronx and Drunken Master someday as well

Andrew Wyslotsky

“These are the end times for Dewey Crowe!”

Manish Agarwal

Police Stories are great but the Leonards feel like better discussion movies for the guys

Jon Ryves

True. There is also a good argument on what is the best or your favorite. Those first 3 are all some of my favorite movies. My opinion changes a lot, but right now- it's Get Shorty. It's streaming on YouTube. It's so funny and so cool. Travolta is amazing in it.

LongJohnSivers#1Fan

I think they should add all of Justified to the list of Elmore Leonard. It's only six seasons and a reboot.

George Dunne

You watch more than Hollywood films.

Gabe

You could make the argument that Leonard adaptations represent the best work of three great filmmakers. The choice is clear.

Sean Corp

Too baaaad, baybeeeee

Marty TC (child-sized Cardassian)

Maggie Cheung is in these?!! *Googles "ballot stuffing"*

John Dog

I've been meaning to do Jackie Chan properly for years - this would be the perfect excuse. On the other, hand, no-one's ever talked about Tarantino or Soderberg on a podcast before /s

John Dog

I love Jackie Chan but I do have to squint through my fingers at how he treats Maggie Cheung in those movies

Daniel Citron

FIRST!

justn

This is “New Police Story,” “ Police Story: Lockdown,” and “Supercop 2” erasure

Jacob Moore

ohh boy elmore leonard would be amazing!!!!!

J M D

Police story is that meme of Pam from The Office, "It's the same picture"

John W

Police Story gets my vote because of lack of Mr. Majestyk in the Leonard films.

Douglas Hahner

Eh I think Police Story is too visual for people who don't watchalong

Adam Grzegorczyk

SAME

Rachel Milligan

100 percent. I think the boys should just do the Police Story films themselves because it will never have the support during MM.

Jordan Grimes

Jackie Chan!

John Toerner

It feels like Elmore Leonard is winning only because not enough people have seen the POLICE STORY films.

Drew McWeeny

Some of the greatest action movies ever with Michelle Yeah. Or some good movies. Those Leonard movies would make for some good main feed under their directors. Not interested in them as watch alongs.

Brian Redford

Also he's a govt puppet now, but I still love every movie he made from 1978 to 1998 or so. Handover ruined Chinese cinema.

John Holder

He already lost.

Ryan Howard

No! Bad Blankies! Come on, Jackie Chan, A-whoa-oh-oh-oh-oh

John Holder

Same.

JFox

I think there’s a lot more to talk about with Police Story than just the action. While the action is incredible and the stunts are the main draw the plots are good and the humor is fantastic

Adam Martin

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/stephaniesoteriou/jackie-chan-flung-son-2-across-room-michelle-yeoh

Andrew Rogers

Jon Ryves

Short answer, not a great dad. Definitely not an ally.

Andrew Rogers

I remember 52 Pick-Up making it on the Screen Drafts Leonard list, good argument for that one

Jon Ryves

Was really hoping for Touch to make the cut. It's such a an oddball, but I kind of love it.

Dylan Weaver

I just watched the first three Police Story movies, and I would happily watch them again.

M

I'd not heard; what's the sitch?

Despairing Radical

Man I am on the wrong side of all of these what does that say

Flappy McGillicuddy-Jones III

I love Dennis Farina, and out of sight soooo much! “Hey Ray, do you ever wear one that says undercover?” 😆 But I want a Soderbergh series

Chris Lynch

I used to love Jackie, but he's a little problematic these days... Far less than many, for sure...

Andrew Rogers

Police stories would be a funnier time. But this is still a win whoever gets to move up.

Tom

There are more Leonard films than that though. There are the two “3:10 to Yuma” films, there’s “Hombre,” there’s “52 Pick Up,” there’s “Stick,” which was one of a handful of the films Burt Reynolds directed, there’s Paul Schrader’s “Touch…”

Liam Palmer

I'd vote for Elmore Leonard if they covered 52 Pick Up and Stick.

Christopher Teuma

fuck

CJ Foss

Police story getting done dirty here

Bryan Lazzaro

I mean I feel like that was the assumption with Kubrick too. “No one needs another podcast talking about Kubrick”

Adam Martin

Not fair.

Joel Barber

Idk. My assumption is QT is so far from getting covered on the basis that no one needs another movie podcast with two white dudes in their 30s taking about QT.

Matt

Fuming at this split. The Police Story films are some of the greatest action movies of all time and y’all are letting it slip through our fingers!! Come on!!

Phillipe Bosher

I want crazy action every time!

Harrison Cordle

An interesting contrast, with the proposed Police Story series being overly comprehensive (does Crime Story have any connection to the other films?) and the Leonard series being hilariously selective.

Douglas Wykstra

Would be fun to add the Justified pilot (I know this will never happen but I love that show so damn much)

Garrett Swaney

As much as I would love to hear them talk about Get Shorty I feel like they will get around to QT for Jackie Brown I wanna hear some Chan Chat

Adam Martin

People don't know about Police Story

Clark Zeis

Leonard movies will cut into the inevitable Tarantino series and feel less like a unified developing franchise.

Anthony Oleszkiewicz

Couple of the Leonards I'd rather see covered on the main feed eventually. Police Story it is

bobbitt15

Jackie Brown ❤️

Carolyn

Cmon Elmore Leonard needs to end with 3:10 to Yuma instead of Be Cool.

Jordan Grimes

(Also: first)

Njord

I think the Leonard movies give you more to discuss, whereas with Jackie’s movies you can find yourself waiting for the next action scene to start.

Njord

Will you also cover all 6 seasons of Justified as well as limited series event Justified: City Primeval

Ryan O'Leary

Gotta throw the big bounce on that Elmore leanord breakdown

Tyler

Fund the Police Story

Connor Crehan


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