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BC MARCH MADNESS 2025 - Day 6

Pack your bags, because we're going to Raccoon City - Resident Evil moves on to the next round!

Up today, two classic tales in the public domain that were adapted in the late 1930s, and then reimagined over and over again.

It's WORLD OF OZ vs ROBINS HOOD.

With WORLD OF OZ, we'd cover five films:
The Wizard of Oz (1939)
The Wiz (1978)
Return
 to Oz (1985)
Wicked (2024)
Wicked: For Good (2025)

We would NOT cover Oz the Great and Powerful because we already did and it was boring.

With ROBINS HOOD, we'd cover five films:
The Adventures of Robin Hood (Errol Flynn, 1938)
Disney's Robin Hood (Hot Fox, 1973)
Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves (Kevin Costner, 1991)
Robin Hood (Russell Crowe, 2010)
Robin Hood (Taron Egerton, 2018)

So - who takes this one?

Comments

So you're not gonna include the episode of Alf the animated series where Alf is in Oz for some reason and plays basketball against the witch and melts her with Gatorade?

Darryl Bowen

WHAT HAPPENS IN THE EVENT OF A TIE?

Jason Baxter

Still 50/50?! Wow

Josh Mclane

As a theatre nerd I feel obligated to note that it’s Brian Bedford/Hot Fox!

Carol

That would skew me toward the Hood talk as I find that movie unwatchable.

Blaine Fiedler

Honestly so torn between these two. I would love a Hot Fox discussion on top of everything else, but without Men in Tights I think I’ll have to go with Oz and hope someone talks about how Judy Garland was such an incredible ally that “friend of Dorothy” became an enduring euphemism for a gay man

Ballytotalfit

Click your heels

Christopher Teuma

50/50 with an hour left! Ack! I really want Robins Hood, just for hot fox talk and hot Costner talk.

Zef Wagner

What about the other 1991 Robin Hood? John Irvin directing Patrick Bergin, Uma Thurman, and Jürgen Prochnow. This film to Prince of Thieves is like Wyatt Earp compared to Tombstone in a reversal of Costner.

FirstPet BirthStreet

Insane to me its this close. That final 3 run of Robin Hoods sounds so boring!

Anthony Pierre Coco

The last two Robin Hood’s are such weird departures kinda worth it for that and it also completes the Kostner cycle

Jay Kay

Total honesty: I just don't like hanging out in Oz, even when the film is great/interesting.

C S

The silent Robin Hood from 1922 is fucking fantastic. It has to be included in this.

Conor Bresnan

The Robins Hood is incomplete, as it does not include the Star Trek: TNG episode Qpid, in whichQ forces the Enterprise crew to reinact Robin Hood

WookieeWaffle

Poor Marie. Another post she can’t write in advance.

Michael Curley

Good News! Mel is on the main feed bracket.

Lobo

I’ve seen some of it. It’s not insulting to Lynch, but a little heavy handed. No one needs it, except Oz/Lynch completists. I do recall Griffin bringing it up in a dismissive manner, but I thought it brings two series together in interesting way. I doubt it happens as you say.

Joseph Allen

No men in tights??? No vote!!!

Josh B

People might be sleeping on how great Return to Oz is

Chloe Jade Skye

This exists?

heather

the extended prince of thieves version helps significantly (imo) Costner is literally the only bad thing about that movie and most of the extra stuff is Rickman scenes with him chewing scenery. Its a win-win

JC9000

pleeeeeeeeeeeease Oz!!!

Rebecca Alter

I don’t think either of these will go all the way, but I’m down for Robin Hood. I love the Errol Flynn and Disney versions. Prince of thieves is at least interesting. But steep drop off after that.

Paul Treidum

A dead heat, this is intense

ExciteMike64

Cutthroat

Ashley Lange

A lose lose. Where’s American pie?

Good

It really is bananas to consider that Denholm Elliott has played the same character as Christian Slater

Rad Rodge

Need Return to Oz

Travis Dunsmuir

I know everyone is up in arms over a Men in Tights exclusion, but what about Robin and Marian? Denholm Elliott as Will Scarlett!!!

Mac Johnson

It’s the only Robin Hood I think of first

John

I just watched a bunch of the same Dracula story after Nosferatu. It gets boring. Oz at least it gets weird

John

When has that ever stopped them?

Eric Gentry-Weeks

We need men in tights if it’s Robinhood

Eric Gentry-Weeks

About as much as all the Batman movies are the same story over and over: somewhat, but not really.

Fiona

🦊🦊🦊

sheabobay

This is like picking between a punch in the face and a kick in the balls

Nicholas

Where were you when u first heard Kevin Costners accent in prince of thieves.

Drum

Why no Legend of Oz: Dorothy's Return? A film with a wide theatrical release, starring Martin Short?

Ennui On Me

It’s because Men in Tights is in the Mel Brooks filmography in the main feed bracket!

Molly McNeeley

100%

Rad Rodge

I don’t think ya gotta do the parody of something automatically, it’s not like it was a clerical error or something to do Austin Powers separately from Bond. Galaxy Quest is unusual anyway for being so close to just a sincere variation on what it’s parodying

Rad Rodge

MEN IN TIGHTS!

Ben Bailey

MEN IN TIGHTS FUCKING SUCKS SHIT

Zwoozy

Why would Robin Hood not also include Men in Tights? It was a definitive edition of the story for me for a long time.

william hittle

I'm voting for Robin Hood because the wizard of Oz seems boring, but how can you do Robin Hood and not do Men in Tights?

Dennis Murphy

this is fact , i assume they were waiting to see if we'd say it? we did, lets get that on the list!

Soup

I'll gladly listen to 1 ep explaining a fever dream, 1 ep being a funkier version of that, and 3 eps somehow being world-building sequels TO A FEVER DREAM over the same story told over and over with diminishing returns... after "fuckable fox." (I was SO high when I saw Crowe's RH in theaters that the rhythmic thumping of the bass put me to sleep within 10 minutes.)

Sean Sakimae

Who the hell is this guy

Jean-Paul

Ok but if they do Oz then we unlock a new mashup where you watch Wizard of Oz AND listen to Pink Floyd AND listen to the Two Friends all at the same time?! DARK POD OF THE RAINCAST?!? Who says no

Jack

Am I crazy for thinking that Ariana was basically just playing a mean version of Kat from Victorious in Wicked?? She was the most enjoyable part, but I'm struggling to understand how the performance was Oscar-nominated

youngthugisthegreatestlivingrapper

Robin Hood for sure. Wizard of Oz and the two Wicked movies have been talked about more than enough

bobbitt15

vote for Mel for March Madness!

Lobo

Also you can't include Robin Hood without Men in Tights.

Ryan Spearman

Hot Fox AND Rickman? Somebody cancel Christmas

Ryan Spearman

I didn’t even think of that. Great point.

Russell Barnes

I haven't seen most of these Robin Hoods. Are they NOT just the same story over and over?

James Asmus

They expressed a bit of indifference to that doc in one of the Lynch eps. Along the lines of the premise of it being “wow, Lynch really liked that movie and alluded to it in his own art” and not much else. I haven’t seen it so I have no opinion, but I clocked that and it makes me think they’d be reluctant.

Michael Haydon

Gotta bury some green tights now to be prepared

Terry Ballard

Much as I’d love to hear Oz-thoughts I just hate Wicked too much 🤷‍♀️

David Ranallo

I'm always angling for some more swashbuckling in my feed so my vote goes to Robins Hood, but excluding Men in Tights feels like it might need some reconsideration.

Tyler Jennings

Hot fox! Hot fox! Jesus Christ, Hot Fox!

Regis L

There's no reason to do Oz if they don't have to suffer through the Raimi one again, the void of that movie would facilitate quality tangents

David Figueiredo

THE DECADE OF DREAMS CONTINUES

Don’t Sleep

The Wiz inclusion is nice too.

Joseph Allen

A David Lynch/Oz bonus episode could be inserted as crossover material.

Joseph Allen

That’s why we need Mel to win MM! Then we could have it all! Sexy cartoon fox AND a Robin Hood who can speak with a proper english accent

Lobo

Fair enough😅

Marty TC (child-sized Cardassian)

I voted for Oz too but what’s stopping you from watching the film at any point before the commentary comes out? Or holding off on listening until you’ve seen it?

Ben Dudden

I literally just want to hear Ben's brain melt as he watches Return to Oz

Heather Robinson

They would probably line it up so that For Good would come out concurrent to the theatrical release, and would be a regular discussion instead of a commentary

Ben Dudden

Ro-Ben Hos: Pod of Casts

Joshua Bauer

Men in tights is like a direct beat for beat parody of Prince of thieves, nearly all it’s laughs come after back to back watches. Without a MIT inclusion here, one surely can only vote against RH and nominate Oz.

Joseph Allen

This being close is insane. They aren't even doing Men In Tights.

Reese Wallace

My Oz tattoo compels me

Hey It's Mwem

Robin Hoods would be a great mix of different sorts of movies. Great conversation fodder

Will McLaren

oh please i need robins hood to win. i have so many opinions on robin hood (2019) and disney’s robin hood and i really want to see you guys be baffled by them

Front-Back Brute

Wizpod of ozcasts

Richard Oren

Oz is worth it just for how unhinged Return to Oz is. One of my all time favorites

Drew Munhausen

What, no men in tights?

Lefty Uno

OZ OZ OZ OZ OZ

Kevin Gesme

I want more Costner talk

Aoife

Yes!

Gabriel Gauvin

drat--i need to go back and find the "oz the great and powerful" episode!

elsie kate

Oh I forgot they already did the Sam Raimi Great and Powerful on the main feed. I think the Disney animated Robin Hood has a long shadow because it seems like it's where furries come from.

PG

The youth vote demands it!

Will Redmond

this was so 50/50 for me that when i saw Wizard of Oz was winning I switched to Robins Hood. (i second men in tights maybe being added if it wins...)

Damian Brown

Have no strong opinions here so I guess we go with the Hot Fox

Dan Warnken

How is this a close vote?

Curt Weiler

Boo Wicked.

Snoogens

Would've voted for Robin Hoods if it included Men In Tights, the funniest movie I had ever seen (when I was ten)

elkweed

Gotta vote for Hot Fox

Begemott

Not sure how an Oz commentary series would come out this year with Wicked: For Good given that's not coming out in theaters until November

Tomas Marinara

Disappointed the hbo series Oz is not included

Adam

Team hot fox but am totally fine with Oz winning if and only if they bring Connor on for Return to Oz (in character as George Lucas optional)

Bryan Lazzaro

I am disappointed but not surprised that the Syfy mini series Tin Man from 2007 is not being considered for the Wizard of Oz series.

Eddie

I heard that if you sync the wizard of oz and the blank check commentary it often doesn’t really work

mikey GOLDSMITH

Team Hot Fox

Omeed

yes the people demand men in tights!!!!

Sarah Wides

Robin and Marian absolutely should be included, but the Errol Flynn movie is a classic!

MoCoSwede

The Robins Hood series really should include Robin and Marian (from 1976)- Sean Connery, Audrey Hepburn, and Robert Shaw (among others)!

MoCoSwede

A Mel Brooks series would be SICK!

Kyle Stephens

Decade of it wasn't a Dream! Blank Check was a place, and you... and you... and you...and you were there!... But you couldn't have been, could you?

Del Lorenson

As an Irishman, can I just say I'm 100% behind Patrick Bergin erasure. Second the inclusion of Robin and Marian tho!

John Dog

Forever scar the gang with Return to Oz or forever scar the gang with Foxy Hood?

RosieOGravy

get Hot Fox over 49% 🙏

dyadron

Only if griff sings every song in the wiz

Joe Leija

No men in tights?

John-Paul

Even if they’re doing Brooks on the main feed soon. YOU CAN NOT DO ROBIN HOOD WITHOUT THE TIGHTS! Some movies just get double feed treatment cause it feels so nice.

James manning

I voted for Oz just because I haven't seen the Errol Flynn RH (shame!) and I want my first watch to be, ya know, me watching the film itself

Marty TC (child-sized Cardassian)

Do not take Robin Hood (2018) away from me again

Ben Weiner

I need to hear the gang react to the Iraq war inspired sequence from Robin Hood (2018)

Stephen Kendall

Your resident Oz historian Blankie (me) needs Oz to win so bad 😭

Emily Audrain

The only interesting Robin Hood movie is Sean Connery's Robin and Marian - which wasn't even included in the lineup. So Oz is a no-brainer here.

Patrick McEvoy

Oz! Oz! OZ! OZ! OZZZZZZ!

Devin DiMattia

I want Oz to take the whole thing because I NEED a Return to Oz commentary. NEED!

Lauren Damon

I am a Merry Man and I'll voting for HOOD.

Wyatt Gray

Griff as Tik Tok for the poster

jahr

Oh my lord I would (almost) KILL to hear these guys cover Return to Oz.

The Wet Bandits Podcast

I'm continuously on the loosing side here! Grew up loving allll the robin hoods! Especially disney, prince of thieves and men in tights!

Nick Benson

I’m not really a fan of any Oz movie but the original but a bunch of identical Robin Hood movies will get tiring real quick, for the boys and us.

Erik Wacker

you all better get on down the road and vote oz…

chelsd

return to oz is such a beautiful and singular movie. the best robin hood movie is FINE

Brendan Crowley

I believe that’s saved for Brooks

Jason Feffer

Return to Oz a very core memory for me.

Lauren K.

I don’t know about anybody else but I love the Wizard Of Oz. I find it to be quite…good.

Jim Bo

But surely you would also do Robinhood: Men in Tights?

Miketok471

They kept it out last year too. They said they consider Mel Brooks as his own holistic filmography which makes me REALLY HOPE they’ll do him soon

Jake Yosafat

Yeah, no way they don't do Brooks at some point, and Robin Hood and Dracula share so many characteristics, since they both occur on the heels of a major new adaptation of that story, are primarily drawing on the iconic 1930s version, and aren't top-tier Brooks, that I'm not sure there's quite enough meat on that bone. I'll give it up for that Abbott and Costello gag, though.

Penrod

Why vote Oz > Hood series? [sharply inhales, jazz hands] ‘Because-because-because-becauuuuuse…’

Scotty B

First true toss up in my heart

Jake Yosafat

The same could be said about The Wizard of Oz, but I hear ya.

Miles Lemaire

Together, we're unlimited Together, we'll be the two-est friends there's ever been Griffin, dreams the way we planned 'em If we work in tandem There's no fight we cannot win Just you and I, pod-fying cast-ity 🧹💚🩷🫧

Violet Viveiros

I can't believe it's not on the list!

Jamey Bouwmeester

But the first Robin Hood movie would be in contention for best thing ever covered on the show

John O'Neill

2018 Robin Hood, lol good one guys, think I'd remember that.

Paul Chandler

No men in tights???

Kyle Stephens

My kid has seen 2 movies in his (young) life Disney’s Robin Hood and Hot Frosty. I’ve tried to introduce more but he feels complete.

BB

Short episode just on the Peter Falk number.

Penrod

Vote Brooks on the Main Feed!

Brandon

RETURN TO OZ FUCK PLEASE

Brett

I cannot cope with weeks of people saying "ROB inood" like it's all one name.

heather

if RH loses, Ridley better win. I NEED Robin Hood (2010) Director's Cut discourse in my veins

Teddy boi

Kinda surprised on that too. That said, I tried watching post-Wicked, and honestly didn't get as far as the Tarantino sequence. Had to stop for time reasons, but also haven't bothered to go back to it.

Penrod

I'm 0/5 for my picks so far, but I know the Robin Hoods got this!

Steve Runyon

Surely they're just saving up for the inevitable Mel Brooks series on main feed... but same

Ted Bogart

Muppets Wizard of Oz bonus episode?

Devin

No men in tights is tragic

Jesse Abramson

The lack of double-dipping on Great and Powerful makes this automatic vote for Robin Hood.

Obrez

I voted Robin Hood, so that means it will lose this one. I haven't picked one winner yet.

Devin

The omission of Men in Tights sways my vote to Oz.

Dannah

Omitting the terrible Franks Sinatra flick huh?

Harrison Cordle

I would have voted for Robins hands down if Men in Tights was on the list

Scott S

a little disappointed no men in tights

Matt Miller

Sims walked out of the last Robin Hood so that’s what this matchup has going for it for me

Hogan

No 1991 Robin Hood?! That movie looks boring but also that episode sounds fun

Felix Durand

Oz Baby Oz, but they should cover the SNL skit where Seinfeld goes to the Oswald State Correctional Facility too.

Bern Roche Farrelly

Whoever wins is probably getting fed to a woodchipper so I'm good either way

Rory Dunn

I AGREE SO HARD

Eric Albarico

Probably saving men in tights for a possible Mel Brooks series one day

Joel Orr

Hot Fox!!!!

Karina

Robin and Marian should be added, maybe also '25 Wizard of Oz?

Kalle Färm

Griff didn't want to sneak in Muppets Wizard of Oz?

Scott Jackson

If Linklater wins, It's Impossible To Learn To Plow will be the one thing I will not rewatch in preparation for the pod

youngthugisthegreatestlivingrapper

The only thing I can think of is they are saving it for a main feed Mel Brooks series at some point, which would rule.

Patrick Engel

Gotta be Oz, because the last two Robin Hood movies suck.

Miles Lemaire

I voted for "Hot Fox" on instinct... Then remembered The Wiz is Griffins favorite movie and now feeling like I messed up.

Carolyn

They should also do Douglas Fairbanks in Robin Hood. Apparently, it was the first silent film to ever have a Hollywood premiere!

Njord

No Men in Tights because it's part of the Mel Brooks oeuvre.

Matt Demello

The Egerton Robin Hood is so much stranger than people realize.

Will Redmond

I need a Return to Oz commentary very badly.

Zachary Bach

The only movie among all the Ozes and Robins I care about is Foxy Robin so I will vote with the near certainty that neither one will make it to the finals anyway.

Mireille C

Not even a little bit

Lucas Roetter

Hot take: if it wins you gotta cover Great and Powerful Oz again. There's more meat on that bone

Anthony Oleszkiewicz

Please, no one forget that Prof. Griff wrote a IN-DEPTH, DEFINITIVE term paper on The Wiz. We need to hear the dissertation.

Zwoozy

HOT FOX 🦊

sheabobay

JUSTICE FOR MEN IN TIGHTS

Jamie

Men In Tights will have its day on the cast, there’s no doubt about that.

Kawaiidebu

Come on gang, I want to hear about how fuckable the cartoon fox is

Gabriel Martino

The Robin Hood films are better than the Oz ones outside of the original Wizard of Oz. Robin Hoods.

Matt Demello

No men in tights, no vote. Thems the rules

Stephen Mochan

Ring-a-ding-ding!

Njord

FIRST

justn

Gotta go Oz just because the egregious omission of Men in Tights

Claire Carpenter

Voting mainly for "Return to Oz" because I swear that was a fever dream from when I was 4 years old

JS

Oz movies suck besides the Raimi one which won't be included. Michael Curtiz Hood all the way

statue of liberty

I’m going to watch it in protest

Shoopdawoopa

I honestly think you should add Richard Lester’s Robin and Marion to the list. Think there’s plenty to talk about since it stars Sean Connery post Bond and the first film that Audrey Hepburn did in a decade.

Aaron Lohan

Make it make sense

James Serafino

Men in Tights is a war crime

Jeff Brax

As much as some Ridley discussion would rule, there are just too many boring Robin Hoods

Owen Phillips

No Men in Tights?!

Joseph Maggio

Hot Fox Stans will be coming out in droves for this one

Brett Tucker

Just want to shout out that you guys should really throw in Robin and Marian! Watched it this year and kind of loved it, would add a different energy to that miniseries, plus lovely performances from Hepburn and Connery. Okay anyways Go Robins Hood!

Zak Goldberger

So easily Oz. So much more variety in that series, voting for a bunch of Robin Hoods sounds boooring

Anthony Pierre Coco

You couldn’t add Robin and the Seven Hoods. I thought you guys loved the “Rat Pack”

Bradley Churton

Oz Baby! I just think we desperately need commentary on Return to Oz from the two friends.

Lucas Roetter

Leaving out ‘Men in Tights’ is a war crime.

Russell Barnes


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