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BC MARCH MADNESS 2025 - Day 3

Damn, you might as well call The Equalizer Boban Marjanovic the way John Wick completely bodied him yesterday! Keanu moves on to face Philip K. Dick (and himself in A Scanner Darkly) in the next round!

Speaking of a man facing himself...it's a Wes Craven showdown today!

It's SCREAM vs ELM STREET.

With Scream, we'd cover six films:
Scream (1996)
Scream 2 (1997)
Scream 3 (2000)
Scream 4 (2011)
Scream (2022)
Scream VI (2023)

With Elm Street, we'd cover nine films:
A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984)
A Nightmare on Elm Street 2: Freddy's Revenge (1985)
A Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors (1987)
A Nightmare on Elm Street 4: The Dream Master (1988)
A Nightmare on Elm Street 5: The Dream Child (1989)
Freddy's Dead: The Final Nightmare (1991)
Wes Craven's New Nightmare
(1994)
Freddy vs. Jason
(2003)
A Nightmare on Elm Street
 (2010)

So - which Craven are you cravin'?

Comments

Started attending some conventions and people are CRAZY for the Scream movies these days. Actually met Mikey at one a few months back.

Ray H

DECADE OF DREAMS VS DECADE OF SCREAMS

Del Lorenson

It really seems like the Mikey bump post Oscars. I'm curious if there is a mini-age divide on this films coming down to weather your first horror movies were from the 80's or mid nineties and after. Personally love both series and I think that the 3rd in each series in an under rated gem.

Andrew Dorschner

jesus christ, i'm picking losers 3 days in a row

Regis L

Scream is boring after the first one. Elm Street has something for everyone and hasn’t been talked about enough. Give a vote to Freddy!

Joseph Allen

Indeed. The Screams are probably better movies overall, but Freddy won't be dull. Plus, two-thirds of New Nightmare is legitimately great, so there's that?

John Dog

Absolutely. 90% of Scream would be trying to figure out the killers family tree haha

awoodring

I think with Scream, you get 4 good films. And I agree with your Elm Street assessment. Plus, you get a crossover film!

Jonathan Bryan

Yes! Just from the perspective of the kills, Scream is 95% stabbings. Lame. On Elm Street? you don't know how you're gonna go, but it won't be pretty and it will be legendary.

Jonathan Bryan

Maybe there can be a bit for the run of the Elm Street series in which David pretends that he grew up in Robert Englund?

WookieeWaffle

Freddy series is so much more entertaining than the Scream series would be. Cmon people!

awoodring

With Scream you get six good films. With Elm Street, you get a crapload of absolute insanity that would be hilarious to dive into. I mean, Freddy's Revenge alone, a gay allegory, would be worth the price of admission.

Lars Andersen

Nightmare gives you lots of directors with interesting careers to discuss. Plus, hoping for a true Craven series one day.

John Szolscek

That's why we gotta do Elm Street!

Holden Martinson

I'm voting Scream here, but on this whole bracket the person I'm Cravin' most... is the hunter

Kenneth Chambers

If you liked “The Substance,” you will like “The Dream Master”.

Douglas “Scoop” Reinhardt

DO IT FOR FREDDIE

Atticus Swartwood

Wespod’s new nightcast

Richard Oren

Yeah but no Dream Warriors unless we do the Nightmare on Elm Street

Christopher Teuma

YOU PEOPLE ARE VOTING WRONG AGAIN!

jo wa

I mean, Last House was a blank check movie for Wes. So was NOES. So was Scream. It was kind of his thing. I love NOES and I love the series. I just think there is something to be said for going through the four Screams as Wes shepherded them over the two really good but disparate NOES movies he did and I think it would be interesting to talk about where the Radio Silence guys took them. But I wouldn't balk at a NOES series either. Lots to talk about there.

jscro

Scream flames out way sooner than elm.

Zexyshamen

How are the majority of the paying audience philistines who don’t get what’s good about the show?! Elm Street is the only reasonable choice

Alissa

Do both please

Joe P

Elm Street should win this whole thing imo. I really hope Griff pushes hard to do this one day anyway.

Devin

It's time for Scream

Ryan Nilsen

Elm Street >>>>>>> Scream They should just do Craven on the pod. (Although, the idea that they can't do both comms and main feed episodes is a little silly.)

Holden Martinson

Come on, y'all, all the Scream movies are the same. The Elm Street movies take some wild swings throughout the series. There's way more to dig into there than Scream.

DaveSixBillion

One, two ~ Freddy’s coming for you

Moonbeam Belle

Really want Scream to take this all the way.

Anthony Regina

For Mikey

Ben

Who else is up SCREAMing right now

madi

SCREAM

Rebecca Shaw

Huge fan of both. Scream is the consistently better series. But the Elm films would be more fun to discuss/listen to them discussing.

Alexander Ball

We need Elm St at some point

CT13

Too close to call but I haven’t been on the winning side of one of these yet.

Kibblesmith

The hardest decision I've made in March Madness

Parker Thompson

Wait why is Scream dominating? Come on y'all. DREAM WARRIORS!?!?!?

Joe Arvis

Absolutely! I just want to hear more horror talk from the boys

John Millsap

Wow - I thought this would be closer than it is. Damn shame.

Isaac Adams

HOW CAN YOU NOT VOTE FOR ELM STREET???????

Lucas Nascimento

I agree! I love this podcast and have no problem supporting the boys but got damn you have to practice patience if you’re a fan. It’s the only downside.

Good

Welcome to Prime Time, bitch

lil rob

SCREAM FOR THE WIN

David Rosenblatt

This is such a good argument. Think, people! Vote strategically!

Jake Vogt

Elm St for sure, there's so much more variety in that series than the Screams. Will be a lot more interesting stuff for them to talk about.

TimeGentleman

Here for Elm Street but I'd be happy with either.

Cindy

PEOPLE…. FREDDY KRUGER….

John

Downvote

John

NOES is how Wes got a blank check in the first place.

Adam Martin

How about Leprechaun? I’d love to hear Griffin watch Leprechaun in the Hood

Adam Martin

If you are looking for an excuse Now Playing Podcast did a scream retrospective a couple years ago that was really good

Adam Martin

Right?

Adam Martin

Sorry, fam, but 9 films for a Patreon miniseries is a bit too rich for my blood. 4.5 months is a dang ass long time.

Jake Yosafat

Shoutout to Boban

Rad Rodge

Every Scream movie is at least interesting if not good (I think they're all good) and Elm Street has some real bangers (2 and New Nightmare would be very fun episodes). I think it's Scream for me because they don't fall toouch into formula and have the 'whodunnit' element that will make for a fun first watch for Griffin.

George Dunne

Another win-win. But the fact that Griffin has never seen the first one scream is insane. I’m voting for Scream for that reason only. I think he’s going to love them. But damn, I do love me some Freddy.

Good

Let us have ONE

Malcolm

Will the Scream 2 include a discussion of the Less Than Jake cover of The Partidge Family's "I Think I Love You" that plays over the end credits? This Is going to sway my vote

Spence

wonder what the correlation is between people who want elm and street and people who complain in the comments

Casey

Elm St. is my #1 in the entire bracket! Think of the Freddy bits!

Malcolm

Just curious why is scream so popular. Figure elm street would be the vibe

Ali Hassan

C’mon Elm Street would be so fun!

Marcus O'Dell

You people are insane how is Scream winning

David Cliche

A vote for Scream is a vote against a Wes Craven series! Vote Krueger!

Clay Ammentorp

Whoever wins this matchup needs to win the whole thing. More horror on Blank Check!

Matt Schmitz

Imagine the Freddy Bits!!!

Jordan Gibson

Guys… GUYS! We need an Elm Street Patreon Series

Tashmon Dimps

nine blankchecks > six blankchecks

Curtis Bellemer

Last year was my first one on patreon and it was EXHILARATING!! SO FUN

sheabobay

Freddy, guys. Come on, obviously Freddy.

Adrian Symcox

Damn, I’m not on any winning side in this bracket lmao

Harrison Cordle

people voting against elm street are going to get killed in some comically ironic way

Alex Han

GOATed matchup

Brian Case

Why did it not occur to me that I could be voting via the Patreon? I love having a voice!

Glenn Peters

All I want in life is the Scream series. Please remember Griff auditioned for 4 (unless I dreamed that) we can get those stories… vote for SCREAM

Nick Maddox

Wtf is Scream ahead

Michael Pierce

I know the Scream movies are definitely more popular and are probably BETTER by and large, but just think about the moments that the #twofriends would get to react to in the Nightmare franchise. Freddy skateboarding! Putting a boys soul in an NES! Eating a Pizza pie with people as the toppings! The Wizard of Oz homage in Freddy’s Dead is worth a vote alone lol.

Connor Fitzgerald

Ugh. Horror. Hard pass.

John W

I am so disappointed to see Scream beating Elm St.

Jeremiah Drueke

The Scream movies are less interesting visually and harder to talk over

GrrNoise

Whats everyone scream rankings?? Scream 5 makede scream 4 look ljke scream 2!!

sheabobay

I almost love screm TOO MUCH to vote for it lololol

sheabobay

Wish this matchup was later in the bracket. I'd love either of these franchises.

Brynndiana Jones

Scream has less interesting variation as a film series than Nightmare. The outlier and weirdness of some of the Nightmare movies would be so much more interesting.

Ben Brown

Cut deep to choose Scream over Elm St. Freddy had some misses along the way

jahr

I am shocked Scream is winning so handily. Elm St is so fun and each installment does something different. I like Scream but it gets very samey.

Daniel Hedger

That’s exactly why I’m voting for Elm Street lol

Nicky Sanks

Yes! That's where I recognized her from, holy shit that's been bugging me!

Chris Radicone

Totally baffled why Scream would ever have a leg up on Elm Street

bearisonford

Anora bump incoming

Matt Vaughan

Elm street gets so ridiculous

Aoife

Both would be fun, but I'd love an excuse to finally watch all the SCREAM movies.

Wyatt Gray

Scream’s a great franchise but plenty discussed. Would rather have an excuse to catch up on Elm Street

ders

I'm in the bag for Freddy, vote for Freddy!!!!!!!

Josh Burcham

Truly don't care which wins so long as a horror makes it all the way

John Millsap

This one goes to triple overtime , that’s how close it is for me

The Real Stevie Lew

Scream franchise = overrated

Colin

One of these franchises as an Oscar winner as the killer so I'll vote for that

Ryan Spearman

Scream, because now can talk Mikey Madison in some capacity!

Ryan Foulk

Drop dead, Fred

Del Lorenson

I think the Scream movies will be more fun to talk about and are more in-line with the overall theme of the show given Wes guiding four of them and Radio Silence doing the last two.

jscro

Freddy vs Jason really was the Kramer vs Kramer of its time.

Andrew Dorschner

I’m happy either way but I think “Scream” is the more fun series no question, just too repetitive on Elm St

Tony Wagner

I just did a full Scream rewatch back in October and I'd do it again, they are incredibly consistent but I'd love a New Nigtmare commentary.

Chris Radicone

I remember getting a ticket for lords of dogtown( i believe) and then sneaking into Freddy vs Jason...

James Crouse

We can’t lose here. Either a run of goofy fun or a run of meta fun.

Abe Something

To “Bitch!” or not to “Bitch!”

Manton

Elm Street EASILY

Jeramy Wainwright

9 nightmare movies is just Too Many

Craig Shaner

Decade of Screams, let’s go

Alexander Hoskins

Damn, this is a hard choice.

Karl

It’s a dead heat at 2 pm!!

Scott Carberry

Tough choice!

Owen Phillips

More! Horror! Commentaries!

Jake Nolan

This year is our year Scream Team

Rory Dunn


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