BC MARCH MADNESS 2025 - Day 3
Added 2025-03-03 19:00:07 +0000 UTCDamn, you might as well call The Equalizer Boban Marjanovic the way John Wick completely bodied him yesterday! Keanu moves on to face Philip K. Dick (and himself in A Scanner Darkly) in the next round!
Speaking of a man facing himself...it's a Wes Craven showdown today!
It's SCREAM vs ELM STREET.

With Scream, we'd cover six films:
Scream (1996)
Scream 2 (1997)
Scream 3 (2000)
Scream 4 (2011)
Scream (2022)
Scream VI (2023)
With Elm Street, we'd cover nine films:
A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984)
A Nightmare on Elm Street 2: Freddy's Revenge (1985)
A Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors (1987)
A Nightmare on Elm Street 4: The Dream Master (1988)
A Nightmare on Elm Street 5: The Dream Child (1989)
Freddy's Dead: The Final Nightmare (1991)
Wes Craven's New Nightmare (1994)
Freddy vs. Jason (2003)
A Nightmare on Elm Street (2010)
So - which Craven are you cravin'?
Comments
Started attending some conventions and people are CRAZY for the Scream movies these days. Actually met Mikey at one a few months back.
Ray H
2025-03-05 16:48:33 +0000 UTCDECADE OF DREAMS VS DECADE OF SCREAMS
Del Lorenson
2025-03-04 19:53:32 +0000 UTCIt really seems like the Mikey bump post Oscars. I'm curious if there is a mini-age divide on this films coming down to weather your first horror movies were from the 80's or mid nineties and after. Personally love both series and I think that the 3rd in each series in an under rated gem.
Andrew Dorschner
2025-03-04 19:43:15 +0000 UTCjesus christ, i'm picking losers 3 days in a row
Regis L
2025-03-04 17:32:05 +0000 UTCScream is boring after the first one. Elm Street has something for everyone and hasn’t been talked about enough. Give a vote to Freddy!
Joseph Allen
2025-03-04 17:17:52 +0000 UTCIndeed. The Screams are probably better movies overall, but Freddy won't be dull. Plus, two-thirds of New Nightmare is legitimately great, so there's that?
John Dog
2025-03-04 16:50:23 +0000 UTCAbsolutely. 90% of Scream would be trying to figure out the killers family tree haha
awoodring
2025-03-04 15:58:40 +0000 UTCI think with Scream, you get 4 good films. And I agree with your Elm Street assessment. Plus, you get a crossover film!
Jonathan Bryan
2025-03-04 15:55:14 +0000 UTCYes! Just from the perspective of the kills, Scream is 95% stabbings. Lame. On Elm Street? you don't know how you're gonna go, but it won't be pretty and it will be legendary.
Jonathan Bryan
2025-03-04 15:54:05 +0000 UTCMaybe there can be a bit for the run of the Elm Street series in which David pretends that he grew up in Robert Englund?
WookieeWaffle
2025-03-04 14:43:40 +0000 UTCFreddy series is so much more entertaining than the Scream series would be. Cmon people!
awoodring
2025-03-04 14:35:28 +0000 UTCWith Scream you get six good films. With Elm Street, you get a crapload of absolute insanity that would be hilarious to dive into. I mean, Freddy's Revenge alone, a gay allegory, would be worth the price of admission.
Lars Andersen
2025-03-04 12:14:06 +0000 UTCNightmare gives you lots of directors with interesting careers to discuss. Plus, hoping for a true Craven series one day.
John Szolscek
2025-03-04 03:18:43 +0000 UTCThat's why we gotta do Elm Street!
Holden Martinson
2025-03-04 02:37:33 +0000 UTCI'm voting Scream here, but on this whole bracket the person I'm Cravin' most... is the hunter
Kenneth Chambers
2025-03-04 02:33:41 +0000 UTCIf you liked “The Substance,” you will like “The Dream Master”.
Douglas “Scoop” Reinhardt
2025-03-04 02:13:15 +0000 UTCDO IT FOR FREDDIE
Atticus Swartwood
2025-03-04 02:03:04 +0000 UTCWespod’s new nightcast
Richard Oren
2025-03-04 01:58:03 +0000 UTCYeah but no Dream Warriors unless we do the Nightmare on Elm Street
Christopher Teuma
2025-03-04 01:48:12 +0000 UTCYOU PEOPLE ARE VOTING WRONG AGAIN!
jo wa
2025-03-04 01:21:04 +0000 UTCI mean, Last House was a blank check movie for Wes. So was NOES. So was Scream. It was kind of his thing. I love NOES and I love the series. I just think there is something to be said for going through the four Screams as Wes shepherded them over the two really good but disparate NOES movies he did and I think it would be interesting to talk about where the Radio Silence guys took them. But I wouldn't balk at a NOES series either. Lots to talk about there.
jscro
2025-03-04 01:08:23 +0000 UTCScream flames out way sooner than elm.
Zexyshamen
2025-03-04 00:37:20 +0000 UTCHow are the majority of the paying audience philistines who don’t get what’s good about the show?! Elm Street is the only reasonable choice
Alissa
2025-03-04 00:33:41 +0000 UTCDo both please
Joe P
2025-03-03 23:58:58 +0000 UTCElm Street should win this whole thing imo. I really hope Griff pushes hard to do this one day anyway.
Devin
2025-03-03 23:49:25 +0000 UTCIt's time for Scream
Ryan Nilsen
2025-03-03 23:36:55 +0000 UTCElm Street >>>>>>> Scream They should just do Craven on the pod. (Although, the idea that they can't do both comms and main feed episodes is a little silly.)
Holden Martinson
2025-03-03 22:54:42 +0000 UTCCome on, y'all, all the Scream movies are the same. The Elm Street movies take some wild swings throughout the series. There's way more to dig into there than Scream.
DaveSixBillion
2025-03-03 22:52:23 +0000 UTCOne, two ~ Freddy’s coming for you
Moonbeam Belle
2025-03-03 22:47:00 +0000 UTCReally want Scream to take this all the way.
Anthony Regina
2025-03-03 22:06:53 +0000 UTCFor Mikey
Ben
2025-03-03 22:06:36 +0000 UTCWho else is up SCREAMing right now
madi
2025-03-03 22:02:43 +0000 UTCSCREAM
Rebecca Shaw
2025-03-03 21:53:24 +0000 UTCHuge fan of both. Scream is the consistently better series. But the Elm films would be more fun to discuss/listen to them discussing.
Alexander Ball
2025-03-03 21:43:31 +0000 UTCWe need Elm St at some point
CT13
2025-03-03 21:25:24 +0000 UTCToo close to call but I haven’t been on the winning side of one of these yet.
Kibblesmith
2025-03-03 21:20:57 +0000 UTCThe hardest decision I've made in March Madness
Parker Thompson
2025-03-03 21:19:10 +0000 UTCWait why is Scream dominating? Come on y'all. DREAM WARRIORS!?!?!?
Joe Arvis
2025-03-03 21:14:40 +0000 UTCAbsolutely! I just want to hear more horror talk from the boys
John Millsap
2025-03-03 20:58:05 +0000 UTCWow - I thought this would be closer than it is. Damn shame.
Isaac Adams
2025-03-03 20:52:53 +0000 UTCHOW CAN YOU NOT VOTE FOR ELM STREET???????
Lucas Nascimento
2025-03-03 20:51:22 +0000 UTCI agree! I love this podcast and have no problem supporting the boys but got damn you have to practice patience if you’re a fan. It’s the only downside.
Good
2025-03-03 20:40:38 +0000 UTCWelcome to Prime Time, bitch
lil rob
2025-03-03 20:38:39 +0000 UTCSCREAM FOR THE WIN
David Rosenblatt
2025-03-03 20:34:32 +0000 UTCThis is such a good argument. Think, people! Vote strategically!
Jake Vogt
2025-03-03 20:33:36 +0000 UTCElm St for sure, there's so much more variety in that series than the Screams. Will be a lot more interesting stuff for them to talk about.
TimeGentleman
2025-03-03 20:31:24 +0000 UTCHere for Elm Street but I'd be happy with either.
Cindy
2025-03-03 20:29:39 +0000 UTCPEOPLE…. FREDDY KRUGER….
John
2025-03-03 20:19:22 +0000 UTCDownvote
John
2025-03-03 20:18:56 +0000 UTCNOES is how Wes got a blank check in the first place.
Adam Martin
2025-03-03 20:14:03 +0000 UTCHow about Leprechaun? I’d love to hear Griffin watch Leprechaun in the Hood
Adam Martin
2025-03-03 20:13:02 +0000 UTCIf you are looking for an excuse Now Playing Podcast did a scream retrospective a couple years ago that was really good
Adam Martin
2025-03-03 20:12:20 +0000 UTCRight?
Adam Martin
2025-03-03 20:11:19 +0000 UTCSorry, fam, but 9 films for a Patreon miniseries is a bit too rich for my blood. 4.5 months is a dang ass long time.
Jake Yosafat
2025-03-03 20:09:37 +0000 UTCShoutout to Boban
Rad Rodge
2025-03-03 20:04:31 +0000 UTCEvery Scream movie is at least interesting if not good (I think they're all good) and Elm Street has some real bangers (2 and New Nightmare would be very fun episodes). I think it's Scream for me because they don't fall toouch into formula and have the 'whodunnit' element that will make for a fun first watch for Griffin.
George Dunne
2025-03-03 19:58:32 +0000 UTCAnother win-win. But the fact that Griffin has never seen the first one scream is insane. I’m voting for Scream for that reason only. I think he’s going to love them. But damn, I do love me some Freddy.
Good
2025-03-03 19:56:50 +0000 UTCLet us have ONE
Malcolm
2025-03-03 19:50:19 +0000 UTCWill the Scream 2 include a discussion of the Less Than Jake cover of The Partidge Family's "I Think I Love You" that plays over the end credits? This Is going to sway my vote
Spence
2025-03-03 19:50:12 +0000 UTCwonder what the correlation is between people who want elm and street and people who complain in the comments
Casey
2025-03-03 19:48:28 +0000 UTCElm St. is my #1 in the entire bracket! Think of the Freddy bits!
Malcolm
2025-03-03 19:48:27 +0000 UTCJust curious why is scream so popular. Figure elm street would be the vibe
Ali Hassan
2025-03-03 19:44:12 +0000 UTCC’mon Elm Street would be so fun!
Marcus O'Dell
2025-03-03 19:41:18 +0000 UTCYou people are insane how is Scream winning
David Cliche
2025-03-03 19:41:15 +0000 UTCA vote for Scream is a vote against a Wes Craven series! Vote Krueger!
Clay Ammentorp
2025-03-03 19:40:46 +0000 UTCWhoever wins this matchup needs to win the whole thing. More horror on Blank Check!
Matt Schmitz
2025-03-03 19:39:58 +0000 UTCImagine the Freddy Bits!!!
Jordan Gibson
2025-03-03 19:38:51 +0000 UTCGuys… GUYS! We need an Elm Street Patreon Series
Tashmon Dimps
2025-03-03 19:37:58 +0000 UTCnine blankchecks > six blankchecks
Curtis Bellemer
2025-03-03 19:32:31 +0000 UTCLast year was my first one on patreon and it was EXHILARATING!! SO FUN
sheabobay
2025-03-03 19:30:30 +0000 UTCFreddy, guys. Come on, obviously Freddy.
Adrian Symcox
2025-03-03 19:27:07 +0000 UTCDamn, I’m not on any winning side in this bracket lmao
Harrison Cordle
2025-03-03 19:26:13 +0000 UTCpeople voting against elm street are going to get killed in some comically ironic way
Alex Han
2025-03-03 19:22:40 +0000 UTCGOATed matchup
Brian Case
2025-03-03 19:22:32 +0000 UTCWhy did it not occur to me that I could be voting via the Patreon? I love having a voice!
Glenn Peters
2025-03-03 19:21:45 +0000 UTCAll I want in life is the Scream series. Please remember Griff auditioned for 4 (unless I dreamed that) we can get those stories… vote for SCREAM
Nick Maddox
2025-03-03 19:21:38 +0000 UTCWtf is Scream ahead
Michael Pierce
2025-03-03 19:19:31 +0000 UTCI know the Scream movies are definitely more popular and are probably BETTER by and large, but just think about the moments that the #twofriends would get to react to in the Nightmare franchise. Freddy skateboarding! Putting a boys soul in an NES! Eating a Pizza pie with people as the toppings! The Wizard of Oz homage in Freddy’s Dead is worth a vote alone lol.
Connor Fitzgerald
2025-03-03 19:18:53 +0000 UTCUgh. Horror. Hard pass.
John W
2025-03-03 19:18:29 +0000 UTCI am so disappointed to see Scream beating Elm St.
Jeremiah Drueke
2025-03-03 19:17:46 +0000 UTCThe Scream movies are less interesting visually and harder to talk over
GrrNoise
2025-03-03 19:17:40 +0000 UTCWhats everyone scream rankings?? Scream 5 makede scream 4 look ljke scream 2!!
sheabobay
2025-03-03 19:17:40 +0000 UTCI almost love screm TOO MUCH to vote for it lololol
sheabobay
2025-03-03 19:15:54 +0000 UTCWish this matchup was later in the bracket. I'd love either of these franchises.
Brynndiana Jones
2025-03-03 19:15:20 +0000 UTCScream has less interesting variation as a film series than Nightmare. The outlier and weirdness of some of the Nightmare movies would be so much more interesting.
Ben Brown
2025-03-03 19:15:19 +0000 UTCCut deep to choose Scream over Elm St. Freddy had some misses along the way
jahr
2025-03-03 19:15:07 +0000 UTCI am shocked Scream is winning so handily. Elm St is so fun and each installment does something different. I like Scream but it gets very samey.
Daniel Hedger
2025-03-03 19:13:30 +0000 UTCThat’s exactly why I’m voting for Elm Street lol
Nicky Sanks
2025-03-03 19:13:13 +0000 UTCYes! That's where I recognized her from, holy shit that's been bugging me!
Chris Radicone
2025-03-03 19:13:12 +0000 UTCTotally baffled why Scream would ever have a leg up on Elm Street
bearisonford
2025-03-03 19:12:39 +0000 UTCAnora bump incoming
Matt Vaughan
2025-03-03 19:12:01 +0000 UTCElm street gets so ridiculous
Aoife
2025-03-03 19:11:51 +0000 UTCBoth would be fun, but I'd love an excuse to finally watch all the SCREAM movies.
Wyatt Gray
2025-03-03 19:11:20 +0000 UTCScream’s a great franchise but plenty discussed. Would rather have an excuse to catch up on Elm Street
ders
2025-03-03 19:11:15 +0000 UTCI'm in the bag for Freddy, vote for Freddy!!!!!!!
Josh Burcham
2025-03-03 19:10:56 +0000 UTCTruly don't care which wins so long as a horror makes it all the way
John Millsap
2025-03-03 19:07:23 +0000 UTCThis one goes to triple overtime , that’s how close it is for me
The Real Stevie Lew
2025-03-03 19:07:15 +0000 UTCScream franchise = overrated
Colin
2025-03-03 19:07:09 +0000 UTCOne of these franchises as an Oscar winner as the killer so I'll vote for that
Ryan Spearman
2025-03-03 19:07:02 +0000 UTCScream, because now can talk Mikey Madison in some capacity!
Ryan Foulk
2025-03-03 19:07:01 +0000 UTCDrop dead, Fred
Del Lorenson
2025-03-03 19:06:16 +0000 UTCI think the Scream movies will be more fun to talk about and are more in-line with the overall theme of the show given Wes guiding four of them and Radio Silence doing the last two.
jscro
2025-03-03 19:06:02 +0000 UTCFreddy vs Jason really was the Kramer vs Kramer of its time.
Andrew Dorschner
2025-03-03 19:05:13 +0000 UTCI’m happy either way but I think “Scream” is the more fun series no question, just too repetitive on Elm St
Tony Wagner
2025-03-03 19:05:09 +0000 UTCI just did a full Scream rewatch back in October and I'd do it again, they are incredibly consistent but I'd love a New Nigtmare commentary.
Chris Radicone
2025-03-03 19:04:58 +0000 UTCI remember getting a ticket for lords of dogtown( i believe) and then sneaking into Freddy vs Jason...
James Crouse
2025-03-03 19:04:40 +0000 UTCWe can’t lose here. Either a run of goofy fun or a run of meta fun.
Abe Something
2025-03-03 19:04:32 +0000 UTCTo “Bitch!” or not to “Bitch!”
Manton
2025-03-03 19:04:26 +0000 UTCElm Street EASILY
Jeramy Wainwright
2025-03-03 19:04:00 +0000 UTC9 nightmare movies is just Too Many
Craig Shaner
2025-03-03 19:03:47 +0000 UTCDecade of Screams, let’s go
Alexander Hoskins
2025-03-03 19:03:36 +0000 UTCDamn, this is a hard choice.
Karl
2025-03-03 19:03:23 +0000 UTCIt’s a dead heat at 2 pm!!
Scott Carberry
2025-03-03 19:02:55 +0000 UTCTough choice!
Owen Phillips
2025-03-03 19:02:39 +0000 UTCMore! Horror! Commentaries!
Jake Nolan
2025-03-03 19:02:36 +0000 UTCThis year is our year Scream Team
Rory Dunn
2025-03-03 19:02:17 +0000 UTC