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Die Hard 2: Die Harder

In our first of two McTiernan-related bonus eps Griffin, David and Ben discuss Die Hard but at an airport this time with Die Hard 2 (or as some people like to call it Die Harder). Topics include: Is it Die Harder?, missing McTiernan, and a very special Dauphin-Addendum.

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I love the outro music is trying to end the episode because Griffin’s mom doesn’t text him back

Will Pottorff

Ultimate version of this as background/hangout movie: me giving birth with it on the hospital tv in the background! 😆

Janine

What is it going to take to get the boys to split a joint and watch The Adventures of Ford Fairlane together?

Patrick Mexal

RE: Live Free of Die Hard. I hold to the idea that movie is like a drunk John McClane re-telling one of his crazy adventures to a buncha cop friends while they close out a bar at 4am. Hence action is over exaggerated and he comes off as way “cooler” than he is in reality. Not an excuse for the movie, it’s just become my head canon

Rich Wojcicki

Punch up on Scum Friends title... Scum BUDS? Nod to scumbum?

John Blood

Youre not a snob.

John Blood

I have always felt like a crazy person for liking this movie. I have never agreed with most of the criticisms. Obviously, nowhere near as good as the original but I have fun with this movie.

Mark

I am very late to this ep, but I would like to offer up Australian kids classic ‘The Ferals’ for inspiration for Ben’s tv show: https://youtu.be/NSC4pZBYcsg?si=Pfiy-XDiFavfZ6Hu

Caitlin Bull

Hey guys Art Evans serves a pivotal role in the plot but judging his acting I was not impressed. None of his lines landed for me.

Jake Wolfsuck

The ending with your mom is so good. That needs to be a recurring bit.

Marty McFly Route

Thank you x

Timothy M Walker

Check out Cutthroat Island, it’s a fistful of tasty ham

caitlin taylor

Perfect

Jon Ryves

Dulles is not only not a hot airport, it’s the most despised airport of the DC area. It’s deep into Virginia (by DMV standards), a hellish maze, one of the worst places on earth. They should have picked literally anywhere else.

Matt L.

Sigh I’ve been in love with Griffin since the first episode I heard (honestly the only reason I listened to the podcast for a while) and I always think he can’t get more perfect and then y’all post a nice conversation with this adorable little Jew and his mother. It is cruel to present this man as so desirable 😒

Savannah

Annoyed dad David is my very favorite version of David. “Enough 😑” 🤣🤣🤣

Savannah

Scum Friend$

Tom Lowery

Griffin calling his mom needs to be a regular segment. What a delight.

Roxanne Harvey

crazy how much griffin's mom sounds like romily.

Sean Elliott

Griffin’s mom sounds just like Romily

Jenny Potter

Probably wont get read, but griff, your mother was revelation. Absolutely delightful conversation, insightful, pleasant and unexpected. She was absolutely lovely and I can't wait for her to have a full episode. 10/10.

Joseph Johnson

Die Hard 2 makes Die Hard 3 look like Die Hard 1

Joseph Dakin

Holy Shit Scum Friends fuck yes

Erik Opland

Prison is absolutely worth seeing. It's bonkers and has a young Vigo!

Garod Wayman

A perfect conversation: “Do you remember who the villain is in die hard one?” “Who?” “Allen Rickman” “Oh, good.”

ryan mcgrath

Bruce IS briefly on a plane in the first Die Hard, so Griffin’s mom technically isn’t wrong there

Charlie Kessler

Ah someone, do the whole Die Hard series…although the criticism that the films become more and more like the films McTernan didn’t want to make is fair.

Jonathan cronin

While I don’t think Cutthroat Island is a secret masterpiece, it’s a kind of bizarre messy movie that has some cool big set pieces and some fun sequences (and some less fun ones). Gina Davis’ presences massively increases it’s watchability and she has a monkey side kick which is delightful. A fascinating obscenely expensive object that is probably fun watch with pals and pizza

Cairo Dye

Get mom on main feed now. Every time you throw a Kevin Smith episode at me I demand a Griffin’s mom chaser

Susan Hill

Spoilers but I think I would listen to a whole ASMR podcast of Griffin’s mom talking about literally anything, while Griffin types on his keyboard

Ray Goldberg

The idea that that hasn't actually been discussed in the zillions of minutes of TC discussion on this show is kinda shocking but I think it never has

Rad Rodge

The most enduring thing lodged in my mind from HDTGM is definitely from their Deep Blue Sea episode, it's the voice of Paul F. Tompkins brightly saying "Stellar Skateboard"

Rad Rodge

But did he burst through the wall like kool aid man?

Bee

Griffy baby what’s your mums Letterboxd?

Michael Aslin

Griffin's mom eating on mic #heredity

Calculon IV

Griffin calling his mom at the end is an absolute delight

Stephen David Miller

I think David was *thisclose* to explaining that there was an actual racing guy named “Dick Trickle”…we missed out on some choice reactions. 😂

Joanna Patterson

Yippie Kai Yay, Mr. Falcon for all my fellow Blankies who watched the edited for tv version back in the day.

Harry Russ

Some of John Moore’s choices in “A Good Day to Die Hard” are worth discussing .

“Scoop”

Griffin patiently, calmly explaining the plot of the first Die Hard. Great

DJV

Gotta say LL is pretty damn good in In Too Deep

Chauncey Telese

Air Kill is a pretty good title tbf

“chris”

I won't stand for this Brain Smasher: a Love story erasure. There were 2 Dice Clay vehicles damnit.

Fred Mercado

Unrelated: does anyone else want to hear Griffin sing the “Goodbye So Soon” from The Great Mouse Detective? But, like, played back in old timey radio 📻?

Tyler Duggan

Crushing on Griffin's mom now.

Kurt Farschman

Antonia Dauphin https://images.app.goo.gl/WtecQQsxrqRnHCMU9

Kurt Farschman

Cutthroat island is genuinely boring and bad.

Ralph

Great ep but the ending is fantastic, great to have Griffin's mom on the show finally. I voted for Celine Sciamma to damnit.

Johannes Wiberg

My son loves the Cars movies because they're movies...about cars

Scott G Sowers

The bit at the end with griffin talking to his mom over the phone reminds me of listening to CBC’s Wiretap very lovely voice

Joon Kim

I was a little let down that you refused to talk about the movie... but oh man the end paid out. What a great lady.

Devon Wenger

I hate to correct Producer Ben, but LL Cool James actually compares his HAT to a sharks fin, not his head. It makes all the sense in the world.

Teddy K

The conversation with Griffin's mother is superb.

Charles Muller

Listening to Griffin talk to his mom is a) delightful and b) explains a lot about his personality

Begemott

His dad was on a whole episode! Swimming to Cambodia for the Demme miniseries, it's on this very feed.

Begemott

Everyone call your mom

Pat Vamos

How do we get Griffin’s mom before his dad on this show? Truly, though this is my favorite ending to an episode ever

Thomas Rude

I continue to prefer Live Free or Die Hard to Die Harder. Of course, they’re both a deep drop from the two McTiernans. (And they’re both well above the pathetic lump of nothing that is A Good Day to Die Hard.)

Donald W Pratt

Ford Fairlane is quite sexist, and a whole bunch of other -ist, but I like to get high and laugh at it. I think it's funny, but I wouldn't defend it. Cliffhanger is easily the best of the bunch. My favorite Stallone actioner. Looks amazing, has great set pieces, a fantastic score. Cutthroat Island is not as a bad as its rep suggests. The narrative is flat, the pacing is off, there's no chemistry between the leads. But again, it looks great (looks like a fucking movie), and the action delivers. Seriously, the end-of-act-one chase is incredible. I saw this movie for the first time two years ago, and I was floored. The Long Kiss Goodnight is one of my favorites. Not perfect, but incredibly solid. Davis is incredible in it, the movie stands and falls with her. And Deep Blue Sea, hell yeah, that's big-budget creature trash, of which the 90s were full of. Remember The Relic, Anaconda, Mimic, or Deep Rising? This is my shit!

FrancescoTakesItEasy

Good ep.

Ross

In the hospital, this episode is keeping me sane. Thanks!

Drew!

I LOVED Bump in the Night and it has one of the best theme songs for a 90s children’s show

Laura Bee

Is there a picture of Griff’s mom?

Dick Sneak

Long Kiss Goodnight is a personal guilty fav and I've always wanted an excuse to see Cutthroat Island. If no Renny Harlin series, maybe a pirate movie mini series for next year's march madness?

Daniel Jacobs

My parents love Cutthroat Island and think it’s a lot better then Pirates of The Caribbean.

David Kirk

I mean it’s between that and Vengeance, no doubt. I’m more for the latter, but I don’t blame you for preferring 2. I also don’t hate Live Free or Die Hard (😬), but A Good Day to Die Hard is a trash can fire of a movie (not in a good way).

Pete

They’ll never make a sixth in the series now but I would have liked to have seen As I Lay Dying Hard.

BestowalDonkey8

Hayao “Disney Has Contempt for the Audience” Miyazaki

Jon Holt

Griffins phone call with his mom where she lucidly explains that she was indeed somehow a fan of Die Hard 2 while also quietly confirming he saw Jungle Book as a 1 year old was like the end of Big Fish where you realize the crazy bastard was telling the truth the whole time.

Deren Ney

Torille.

Sami Pöyry

Son of The Mask was the 'Days of Thunder' for the talking baby genre

Henry Jai

The Bruce Willis impressions 😂😂😂

Steven Ray Morris

embarrassed that it took me this long to realise that 'Clod' was meant to be a play on 'Claude'

Henry Jai

Saying ephemeral like that forever now

Danny K

These are nice gentleman doing the Lord's work.

Brian Boylan

This is actually the second best Die Hard film. (fight me, but nicely lol)

Chuck Emmett

DAMN!!! I was hoping for a commentary. Lol no worries let me go watch die hard 2 now 😒😂

Ancient alien

DON’T YOU PUT THAT EVIL ON ME LIGHTNING MCQUEEN!

Fred Skull

The prelude to the Renny Harlin series

Garod Wayman


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