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Alien vs. Predator / Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem

For September's bonus ep is a semi-Fincher related and oft-mentioned / promised selection! The BC crew discusses 2004’s Alien vs. Predator and 2007’s Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem. Topics discussed in addition to AvP and AvP:R include the SAW franchise, the canon of “Vs” movies, and a huge joke pays off at 1:20:00.

Comments

I'm with Griffin on this one, I guess. Saw both AvPs in theaters and never got over the profound disappointment I felt after the first one. Had a better time with the second one. I still feel like, the first film has Predators in it, yet not one spine gets ripped out, not one head is cut off. Automatic fail. Didn't give me the bare minimum. Plus, I just can't with the forced pseudo-coolness of PWS Anderson. AvP:R at least has gore, even if it's hard to see. I think both stink, but it felt as if AvP:R didn’t actively try to piss me off every frame. Guess I'm more mad at the first one than the second one.

FrancescoTakesItEasy

How much DID the steak cost?!

John Blood

My memory of this movie is seeing the first one in the theater and the audible laugh from the audience when they pull back to show her with the alien skull as a shield

Patrick Mike

Odd. This, and only this, episode won't play on my rss feed, says not authorized in my podcast app (overcast). Other episodes download fine.

Kayin, the one and only

Not to get too technical but this sounds frickin cool

Rad Rodge

Idk if it’s changed since the episodes I’ve heard the boys talk of it, but Griffin hasn’t watched any of them… or just Legacy? Same with Ben

Tyler Duggan

Oh hey you're doin the Brosnan Bonds! I had already done trailer reels for the first two, decided to make ones for the other two. These approximate the ads and trailers that would've played in front of the films in US theaters on their initial release. https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/gaxxwn3gb5ue9ww6tj8g8/h?rlkey=i25c3wra4tk5g5dlp3ahamwwc&dl=0

Robert Denby

My partner and I have been watching the Bourne's (I've seen them, they haven't) and they've been floored by how good the Bourne movies are. They'd just assumed they were dumb action flicks but the first three at least are all SO GOOD.

outb0undflight

The Bourne series would be PERFECT to do shortly after the Brosnan Bonds (with the musical-comedy series between as a palate cleanser). It would really put into context why those movies felt like such a breath of fresh air.

Douglas Wykstra

Scott Pilgrim vs the World!

Danielle

I saw Alien 3 opening night with my dad at age 13. And yes, we did not like the bleak movie that hated us. If fact, I skipped this and Resurrection when you did it a few years ago, and am only now having my second viewing. I started listening before finishing the movie, so I went first hour Assembly and then switched to theatrical. Maybe that’s the secret sauce for this one?

Matthew Comegys

they should make an Alien vs Prey movie where Amber Midthunder kills one million aliens

ian

In the main feed Aliens3, around the 31 minute mark, the boys got into what it must have been like for young people to see Aliens in theater, and I'm here to say that I was 12 in 1979, and had my grandparents drop me off at the theater to see Alien by myself. The thing I remember the most vividly from that original viewing is the ominous way the title fades in one piece at a time. Afterwards I went right out and bought the 18" Kenner Alien doll.

Ivan Cockrum

I have been sweating seeing David logging Saw films of letterboxd. SO glad those are officially NEVER going to be commentaries.

Tobey

JFC no way. Really!?

Tyler Duggan

Both these movies would’ve been improved with a “h’wat DIDjueXPEACT!? SOO-puh-MAN!?”

Tyler Duggan

A note about the justified complaints re. how dark Requiem looks. They blame the cinematography in the episode, but if you look up who shot the film, it's Daniel Pearl, responsible for the original Texas Chainsaw and the remake, plus lots of other great looking films. There has been a lot of talk over the years about how the film was taken away from the filmmakers and artificially darkened in post because the studio didn't have faith in how the monsters looked, essentially ruining the movie. Watching it with the brightness and contrast cranked up is actually likely closer to how the film is supposed to look than what is available now.

Dennis Rowland

Please do a commentary on the first one with Ben at least!

Vegan Police

austin powers?

Bee

(I mean obviously not a PSH line, I just think the whole scene is a success)

Rad Rodge

Forgot how much I liked “It’s not the kind of…upbringing, I guess is the word I’m looking for?”, that’s a great moment in actually naturalistic Sorkin dialogue

Rad Rodge

Was inspired to watch it by this ep, it had been a while, it hits as good as ever

Rad Rodge

I had a good time watching Requiem. But I was incredibly drunk and love a truly awful movie.

Steve Nutt

Holy shit, I also watch that PSH scene multiple times a year, the last time was just a few days ago.

Aaron Summers

The price of the brood steak is cursed info. Those who know must take it to the grave.

Tom Lowery

100%

Joshua Ochoa

I saw AvP on mushrooms in college, my walls are breathing

Matthew O'Reilly

the steak cost $37,000

Jeremy Jones

Payoff is an obvious understatement

Josh Harvey

Related, but listened to the new Alien3 pod today, and they asked a few times what it was like to see this in theatres. It was actually a good experience! I saw it opening weekend in Southeast Detroit and it was one of only two films I’ve ever seen where the audience burst into applause at the end. Not even sure if everyone loved it necessarily, but I think because it felt like such a clear ending to a special series.

John Addis

How is this episode not called ALIEN VS PREDATOR vs ALIEN VS PREDATOR: REQUIEM?

topher mehlhoff

I think David should pay a comedy point fine for talking about an Alien movie and saying the phrase "It mostly takes place at night" and failing to follow that up with "mostly"

Matt Maher

Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever

Rob R

I can’t believe this Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever erasure.

Taylor Owens

I would vote for Chipmunks in the bracket

Austin McDougle

Same. Disappointing.

Cale Woods

I work in a kitchen and my chef is hilariously named... Dallas Howard

Bonesaw Greene

AvP is so similar to Prometheus. Genuinely shocked me the first time I watched.

FiddlersGreenDay

I want AvPvT. Alien vs Predator vs Terminator.

Lizz

Or start spreading the oooooze

Lizz

I LIKED AVPR there I said it

Lizz

No dead air. It’s a 10 episode wise

EvanEightNine !

We need a commentary that’s just Ben reacting to seeing AVP for the first time

Seymour Butz

Maybe the Predator should hunt a Kaiju

LS

Here's my pitch for the next Predator movie, it's called 'Predateer' and its set on the high seas during the golden age of.piracy. Alt. title 'Predators of the Caribbean' if you must.

graham self

how the predators don't easily win ever time really confuses me. it must be their hubris

Jordan B. Anderson

I was gonna say the same thing!

Tom

“I call it the blimp cause it was such a Goodyear” hahahah goddammit

Rad Rodge

25 min in, talking equalizer and saw. Haven’t mentioned avp, this is so much better than commentaries

EvanEightNine !

How did David not sing “start spreading the Chestbursters?”

Joshua Ochoa

Same, friend ✊

Marvin T Little

Can’t wait for the a capella intros for the Pitch Perfect series

Dustin

HSM???

Cameron Palin

I rented both AvP movies thinking these were going to be commentaries :-(

Daniel A. Barron

A musical comedy series at the end of the year? I was wondering when the Trolls trilogy would be covered.

Henry


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