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2 important updates

This is the first Force of Will TCG release under the new management of FoW Corporate.

Apparently a lot of problems occurred. I know some distributors received 0 BOXES.

I ended up receiving only 6 boxes. I will not be able to offer these to the patrons.


There are CURRENTLY 0 AVAILABLE for sale on ebay. The market is scrambling to find product...and the product simply does not exist.

Apparently they under printed big time to hedge the risk of there first time. As with previous FoW releases, there is no reprint on the boxes. If you are able to find these boxes, the price is going to spike to $100.00+ unless something changes due to lack of supply.

Im not sure how this is going to change future set releases, i know they have plans for at another block with 4+ sets in the coming 12-24 months so the rumors of FoW dieing are inaccurate. But if it is obvious the new owners are playing it conservative, which i think is the right decision. This will also strengthen the secondary market.


OTHER NEWS -


Just to add some clarity for the Sept 1st sale. MH1 boxes are in a unique position right now. I can order a large amount of product for another 30-45 days before things start to tighten up. I already have my personal position for long term in the product.

Since i see a small opportunity to get a huge batch (1000 boxes) i am going to pass it on the patrons at a lower price as a thank you for everyone who purchased at 194.99. I know some people want to sit on the product, others see it as an opportunity to get cheap singles or flip the cards.

Either way, its a small window.

After September 30th 2019, i will no longer offer Modern horizons in any quantity.

The rumors of MH1 being overprinted, i do not believe to be accurate. I believe since the price point is high, people are not able to order the larger quantities like they would a standard booster box.

So again, the intent is to offer a reduced rate to people who paid 194.99.


In conclusion...


I know its a long shot...but my instinct is wizards is going to do a reprint of Commander 2019 sometime in the future. I have no evidence, just my opinion. It is simply to much money to leave on the table for Hasbro.

Comments

Tony, did you delete your last two community posts? I saw them disappear yesterday. I sent money to Rudy for a box Tues night and it arrived yesterday. Thanks for the quick ship Rudy! Was above ave box 4 mythics (Urza, Ranger Captain, First Sliver and Mox Tantalite), Windows Vista, 4 Horizon lands, Foil Collector Ouphe and Foil Plains. My input on Guilds and Allegiance leaving print is that Guilds will be first sometime during next 30-90 days (Oct will be 1 year) and Allegiance towards end of year. Don’t think we will see them both leaving print/supply at the same time.

TexasTed

Tick-tock.........

I wonder what time the announcement will be posted. 🤔

Lmao

Pretty sure I just saw Rudy driving north in his taco truck carrying a trailer of 1,000 cases of Modern Horizons covered in a tarp flapping in the wind.

scatt

Same here. Sent my mh1 order for my Sept 1st eligibility 👍👍👍

I just bought a box of MH1 to make Rudy go out in the hurricane to ship it. Haha. JK. Be safe man. Hopefully there isn't crazy flooding near you.

Prabal Singh

I just got the last box of FoW off of Amazon. there were three when I looked it up and then I went to sign in and went back and then there was one left. So I grabbed it

Great question as I will be gone Sep 1st and 2nd and do not want to miss out on the sale.

Ryan Butcher

Rudy, the September 1st mh1 special sale, will this be a one day sale or another "until stock lasts" sale?

Yes. Hope it is competitive. Ebay is $176.99 from a reputable seller currently. I ordered a Case Monday and it arrived Thursday. Great product and Rudys info on it is promising. The fact that Sept is the last month to get MH1 from Rudy means he believes it is out of print and this is his last batch.

You should get a shipping notification to your email within 24 hours. Or you would maybe get refunded if your email on Patreon does not match the email of your Paypal account.

Daniel McDonald

Stricter order processing started last month. If your patreon email / name does NOT MATCH your patreon account, you will get canceled/refunded. Add a note referencing your patreon information if you are using a different e-mail or name. SOLD OUT - MTG - Commander 2019 Deck Set (Pre-Orders in Mid August) 194.99 - MTG - Modern Horizons (LIMIT 6) YOU MAY ONLY PLACE 1 ORDER PER MONTH FOR STANDARD BOXES 79.99 - MTG - Core 2020 79.99 - MTG - War of the Spark 79.99 - MTG - Ravnica Allegiance 79.99 - MTG - Guilds of Ravnica You MAY mix and match You MUST add a NOTE to your payment stating which boxes you want. HOW DO I BUY BOXES??? Login to your Paypal account and go to "SEND MONEY" MAKE SURE YOUR PAYPAL SHIPPING ADDRESS IS ACCURATE, MUST BE SENT TO REGISTERED PAYPAL My paypal address is AlphainvestmentsLLC@gmail.com Enter the dollar amount equal to how many boxes you want. 10.00 and 15.00 Patrons+ Up to 6 Standard boxes 20.00+ Patrons Up to 12 Standard boxes SEPARATE PAYMENTS for each case please :-) 100.00+ Patrons just ask….

Where do you see current prices on boxes he is selling... Would like to grab a MH box before Sept 1st

New to the page. I was looking couldn’t find it. Ordered some MH couple days ago, when does he usually ship after paying?

If you mean from the special Rudy sold ($1k)...yes.

Link please...or at least a director.

What if we bought an MH1 box at 184.99? Will we still be able to get in on this one?

Dogcheese

$160???????

Well that's good, wasn't honestly thrilled to see MH1 drop to $181 per booster box when we paid $195 per box so definitely appreciate the ability to buy them at a cheaper price point from Rudy. Hoping he is competitive with the current TCG rates... $179.99 per box shipped would be great.

Order FoW from amazon through forwarder, Rudy would be cheaper lol

So what's the date? 😁

I used my abacus to compute the probability of C19 reprint, P. Let S be the preorders and W be the week one reorders. P = W > .3S please use this in your models this is pretty much as guaranteed as a Doctor Who Tardis Repack ABU Dual Snapcaster Repack only $4.20 shipping and handling.

still pullin' for more c19, I missed the sale the first time. here's hopin'!

I was looking forward to order FoW, kinda sucks actualy. It weird ho Rudy went from 60 to 45 then to 6. I guess I will buy singles later

Well hopefully this shortage doesn’t turn out to be as bad as Vingolf 3 was

I wonder if many care? 😜 (I dunno, I just wonder)

Lmao

Wow! Brilliant. I was hoping to get a few more MH1 boxes. Getting them a bit cheaper would be fantastic! Thanks Rudy <3

BennyMcSeoul

Yes...and Theeeeen...MaRo states on Dec 1st: "We know yall have been asking for it, so wanted to give everyone a Christmas present, we will be doing a second print run of C19. You should see them at your LGS within the next week. Your welcome." 😂

FOW set 4: None in Australian/NZ suppliers.

Poo, I guess I must aquire FoW boxes somewhere else for now atleast.

I’m in. 3 cases hidden. My itchy finger wants to open a half case for fun and my collection and trade value. Although, I don’t ever seem to make any trades........

Coldest1

One hundred and.... don't flop that taco yet we'll be right back.

scatt

Tempted to buy and just flip singles for the fun...hard to lose money on MH1

Selesnyan Envoy

Not sure how low Rudy will come in at but there are some good deals on ebay. $175 shipped and if you have a 10% off code or bonus bucks that brings it down below $160... which is a pretty good price if you miss out on this sale

"This sale is ONLY open to patrons who have purchased ANY quantity of Modern horizons before September 1st." Is it before September 1st today?

scatt

Again, they are probably short running commander 19 to spike the price on 20. Could be the long play for increased profits on next years profits.

Mr. Batsquatch

Lol, if I haven't placed my monthly order yet, can I place it at the 195 price to have access to the lower price?

Scott Willis

you want to know how to keep a person in suspense

Rudy, can we get an idea of how discounted the MH1 price will be?

Since I personally bought mine for around 180 shipped, I can't even feel bad about this. I think this is a brilliant loyalty incentive. Kudos.

Ein

With 1,000 more boxes can we get MH1 box opening videos?

What the price Ruby? Inquiring minds want to know.

Jack

Thanks Rudy, as always, sir. :)

I was an idiot and sunk good money into FoW. Game is dead. And I'm screwed with this garbage nobody plays.

Thanks for the update Ruby!! 🌮🌮👍

I'm here for it. All Wrenns, no Gaacks, lets go!

And the new “reduced” price of modern horizons will be? (right back after these messages)....


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