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WARNING - Modern Horizons Pricing

Just a heads up, Modern horizon prices are now pushing $200.00+ a box and i expect them to level between 200-220 a box as we approach release.


Since a LOT of stores pre-sold boxes early and the market expected a weak set, market reaction was very strong today with the announcement of a VERY impressive land cycle.

The creation of these new RARE not MYTHIC lands just created a similar $10-$30 dollar land cycle per card and is going to add a huge support level to box prices moving foward.


A lot of stores have contacted distributors this morning attempting to raise the number of boxes they can get. (which is not possible, all stores have quantities locked in 2 months ago)


This will NOT change my pricing and have no intentions of raising my prices to over $200+ a box.


I maxed out all BOXES from EVERY distributor in the country 2 months ago. I expect to be able to get between 1,000-2,500 boxes


being sold at 3 or 6 box orders, these will still sell out.



Comments

I bought mine first chance at 185, so bought a case. If you sites this long to buy it’s a damn good price

Justin Ball

I was thinking about ordering some MH boxes to sit on for a bit. I figured I may as well buy em from Rudy's emporium.

Seems like the best thing is if you want the set then buy the set. Dont be weak or wait for opportunities. Just get it if you want it. A good rule is to not let yourself be disappointed. Youll be more disappointed if you don't get the things you want when you want it. The trend I've seen is the booster box will gain value it might take more time, but it will.

Im going to be watching this like a hawk so I can at least order some.

Hahahaha...all good. No taxes, includes shipping. Email looks correct. Can verify here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/26516644

When we do place our order and send our money VIA Paypal, to Rudy's Paypal Email, do we include taxes in the the sent Money, or is that already included in the payment itself? Also just wanted to confirm that this is the right Paypal Email: AlphainvestmentsLLC@gmail.com. lol sorry I'm a worrier and a neat freak when it comes to transactions.

Joshua S O'Dell

We don't know yet...soon tho. Around 10 days prior to release. Rudy will create a new post for it. Chances are he will also create a 24 hour notice post due to MH1's current demand.

Welcome aboard! That info can be found here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/26516644

When exactly will ordering for MH begin? I really Need to make sure I get on this as soon as possible

CREAM

New to Patron. Can someone explain how I place orders for boxes available? Thanks

My LGS just said it was one buy a box promo and the other card was for pre release weekend

Vlper

Watch very closely...I don't believe they are killing the current power lvl of existing cards (sure maybe the uncommons/commons ;)...only adding more. 8) So far the only recognized power creep to a specific card I have seen is the Sliver Queen..but she will still hold her own in the Legendary slot card type due to sliver synergy I feel. I could be wrong.

Just wondering for LGS's Rudy: I heard that there would be two buy a box promos for this set. Does this mean you have a 50/50 chance of getting flusterstorm? Or does this mean you get both in the promo pack. I didn't know if you had any information on this.

Magic is being changed. First Kaledesh Energy over powered, Uncommon to Mythic Planeswalkers WAR, And a Set with a ton of weird Overpowered cards. they are going to kill the current power level. and its awesome. lol

Michael L

nope....any lower and i would rather keep the boxes sir

Rudy The Magic Guy

no shipping/handling/taxes or any extra fees/costs ever :-)

Rudy The Magic Guy

If it's being sold at 185-195 from you now but is print to demand, is it possible to be resold again some time within a year at a lower price? Or will you resell it at the same price later?

will tax be included?

last word was $189.99/box plus or minus $5, sold in groups of 3 or 6 ONLY, preorder begins 10 days before release date

No promo card, those are for WPN stores only.

New patreon here, love the videos . My local store is selling them for $300 and another has not event listed a price yet. How much are you going to be selling them for Rudy?

You get the flusterstorm promo from prerelease kits as well, right?

This is a simple formula as is for all "print to demand" runs. (1) The frenzy for "new and powerful" cards leads to the increase of the initial price. As we are seeing right now. (2) The market eventually becomes saturated and we begin to separate the wheat from the chaff (the top dozen cards increase in value while everything stabilizes then starts plummeting in value. (3) More and more product is printed. Repeat step 2. The base price for the booster boxes continues to drop (4) New product is released (the new kid on the block) and interest in Modern Horizon begins to wane further. (5) Eventually the end of the print run is announced. (6) Booster box prices slowly increase over the course of the follow two years.. That being said. Don't panic. Don't overpay.

Here https://www.patreon.com/posts/26516644

Where can I find Rudy’s PayPal gmail?

Everything through PayPal. He has his PayPal email posted. You send the amount of money with a message of what you want. Wait until he tells you it's good to go or he will return payment.

Jeff Simmers

But how Do we order once avaliable? Once he tells us of course?

Brandon White

I’ll sell you one when I buy mine 😜

Ben Magiera

He will send out a message letting everyone know when we can order

I'm confused as to how to order from you when modern horizons is released.

Oxcord

Wrapped tightly in paper, with old ad cards at the front and back, in a padded envelope. They were all in perfect condition.

Can someone answer a q for me? If anyone reading this has had Rudy open their boxes on youtube, how were the cards sent? Mythics in top leaders? Etc? Thanks

what is rudy's Email??

Thanks for the solid advisement as always.

Smithereens

yeah it looks super solid. Also getting a REAL Urza card makes my heart happy.

Need to see how my numbers look but I'll likely do 6, has Rudy put out a solid price yet?

Hahaha...right...hope Rudy has 6 avail to purchase.

Problem is...with wizards these days..no one really knows...this is intentionally done to drive sales at this timeframe. They MAY continue this marketing strategy...they may not. They MAY print the crap out of them or they MAY unexpectedly end printing. Place your bets. 8)

Nice..wish I would have purchased more then 5 boxes myself...now. 8)

No way I'm not buying at least a case of this awesomeness. Rudy thanks for putting so much transparency in the mtg market.

I would not mind buying one, but not 3.

This is going to be a frenzy. Organized play for Q3 2019: 50% or more GP's are modern for the main event

With the “print to demand” will you have the same type of 3 box sales throughout the life cycle of modern horizons much like battlebond or will it be more of a ultimate maszters when they’re gone they’re gone? Or is this too far away to tell? They got this Timmy riding the hype train. Tying to use reason and rational in my purchases.

Does this mean we can place orders now? I always miss the deals :( I really like the 24 notice though that's awesome for people like me with crazy schedules <3

Mr Cya

Pain lands that replace themselves for cheap. That's the key. I don't think a whole cycle of Horizon Canopies will have nearly the same impact as the enemy Fetchlands did for MM17, but definitely better than the filter lands from M25.

Joseph Fernandes

I just watched the Command Zone and they spoiled an Urza legendary creature card that a cEDH card without trying too hard to build.

Keith Miller

Rudy is da man!

Jim Volin

I'm not sure why these are that great they remind me of pain lands

All hail Rudy!

rudy will post a message when its available. this is just to give us some information

Ivan Fuchs

This is crazy, albeit obnoxious. This is “print to demand” but not the same way Conspiracy 2 was? What if this doesn’t sell? Does the valve shut off and the boxes just retain their value? I’m not entirely against the pricing: I say buy it if one can afford it and if one thinks the price is fine. But it’s difficult for me to wrap my head around this price point on a product that is (in theory) widely available for the next 8-12 months. Anyway, looking forward to any videos that will evaluate this rollercoaster. Especially anything that articulates when one should purchase the product (particularly as a playable set; not necessarily an investable collectible). You the man, Rudy. Thanks for everything, per usual :-)

Stephen Konefal

yes

Ivan Fuchs

When can we order these? I haven't buy any boxes in a while! :)

Is Flusterstorm the only buy-a-box promo?

Pass I'll wait for the madness to die down.

And we can’t claim these from Rudy until 10 days before release right?

Your going to be a very disappointed person i dont have a single distributor in the United states who will sell me anywhere near $160, you may want to buy from that source

Rudy The Magic Guy

Giggity.

Jeffrey Ho

just letting you guys know distributors around the country sell boxes between 160-175$ so im hoping rudy will sell them around 180-184.99$ a box.

Ivan Fuchs

Now i just need allocation to end on War of the Spark. I need a few packs to open up for myself

Well we know when we can pre-order them? I want three:)

That’s right. Don’t worry, Rudy will notify us when we can buy him the set. Stay tuned.

William Arce

I bought 2 cases at 179 a box.

Sorry, new to the Patreon. I'm assuming there will be an upcoming announcement when you'll be ready to take orders of the boxes?

Bryce O'Connor

Any idea when we will be able to purchase?

glad i picked up a hefty order of these around $180 a box. I had a feeling these would be good, Wizards has a tendency to overdue the first set then continue to get worse over time.

I'm glad I got my 6 boxes at 179.99. Time to sit back and watch it grow :). The price I mean.

i 100% agree...BUT remember a lot of people like to flip the singles/bxoes at the begining for a profit, thats what creates the frenzy at times

Rudy The Magic Guy

well played John

Rudy The Magic Guy

I already picked 2 up for 181 each. Glad I did

Brewski785

Lol. This is so funny. Everyone will get a box eventually, this isn't a limited set they might keep supply low enough to maintain 200+ a box but they will be available for the rest of the year lol

Michael L

Awesome when will we be able to buy them from you. I am thinking 2

Brewski785

I promis you i will let you down...lol

Rudy The Magic Guy

well played Austin

Rudy The Magic Guy

most likely yes...which means i could have to limit to 3 boxes per person to share the love

Rudy The Magic Guy

then your going to be very dissappointed

Rudy The Magic Guy

lol well played

Rudy The Magic Guy

price for opening videos and shipped sealed will be the same mike :-)

Rudy The Magic Guy

Looking forward to picking up some cases from you ! Great post.

He is looking at $189/box plus or minus $5 shipped in groups of 3 or 6 only no single boxes.

Rudy I passed up the boxes at $181.99 shipped to buy from you don’t let me down bro (I want 3).

And everyone was acting like I was an idiot for getting them so early for 180.

Austin Melton

I am guessing that with the new rise in patreon members, myself included, there will be a feeding frenzy even here with allocation numbers.

You’re the bomb. Do you have a price set yet? Working on securing some funds. Are these not print to demand anymore if you’re saying. You’re going to run out?

I’m really hoping the price isn’t over $180/box. I’ve held off from buying from the “distributor under a fake name” on eBay.

Glad I got a bunch at sub-$180 from Sports'n'Distributor :)

Are those (tentative) prices for openings on YouTube or sealed and shipped?

When are these scheduled to land at the local stores? My guy said he'd put a couple back for me.

Thanks Rudy. This set will be killer to hold on to.

Thanks Rudy


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