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Sacred Symbols, Episode 318 | Hey Man, Wake Up and Smell the Concrete

While Sony may have purchased Bungie with specific end-goals in mind, it's clear -- some two years later -- that the deal hasn't improved PlayStation whatsoever. In fact, it's becoming increasingly nebulous why the acquisition was made at all, with Bungie hemorrhaging money, laying off hundreds, shedding high-end talent, and churning through funds that could be better spent by Sony's actually reliable stable of teams. With further layoffs, the creation of a new spin-off first party squad, and drama galore, there's plenty for us to get into on this topic alone. But there are other things to discuss, too: Firesprite is seemingly making a PlayStation 6 game, Until Dawn Remake got an ESRB rating, Activision's compelling white paper makes a great case for skill-based matchmaking, and more. Then: Listener inquiries! Do we have any nostalgia for pandemic-era gaming? Would Sony have been wise to rely more heavily on established IP for their games-as-a-service push? With studio failures aplenty, is it even worth getting into game dev at this point? How has Colin been dealing with Boar's Head's darkest days ever?

Timestamps:
0:00:00 - Intro

00:28:15 - San Diego Live show!

00:29:55 - where baby?

00:36:39 - Will CCDF work at LSM?

00:45:46 - Boar's Head listeria outbreak

00:53:52 - Stolen pet waste basket

00:59:22 - Mega Man figure jar

01:03:51 - Cleaning in the shower

01:07:50 - New PSVR2 and PS5 pricing

01:14:33 - Astro Bot Dualsense

01:16:44 - Until Dawn Remake gets rated

01:20:43 - Voice actors strike

01:23:12 - Skill Based match making works

01:32:51 - Legacy of Kain returns?

01:42:57 - Alien Hominid 1 and 2 remastered

01:46:20 - Armored Core and Silent Hill sales and downloads

01:47:37 - What are we playing?

02:08:23 - Bungie Layoffs

02:52:06 - Firesprite's future game

02:59:00 - New PS Plus games

03:03:31 - Gaming with Biden and Trump

03:06:23 - PlayStation's creativity

03:12:34 - Pandemic gaming

03:19:58 - New vs old IP for live service

03:26:43 - Why pursue a career in games?

03:38:06 - Requirement to keep games going

Sacred Symbols, Episode 318 | Hey Man, Wake Up and Smell the Concrete
Sacred Symbols, Episode 318 | Hey Man, Wake Up and Smell the Concrete Sacred Symbols, Episode 318 | Hey Man, Wake Up and Smell the Concrete Sacred Symbols, Episode 318 | Hey Man, Wake Up and Smell the Concrete

Comments

Been watching Nardwuar interviews since I was in middle school in 2006 and to hear him get mentioned in SS is such a good feeling. It’d be so interesting to have him on SS+ 😂

Alan Yungwirth

Where Germany props up countries like Spain, France and Greece? I believe that’s why Great Britain left the EU if I’m not mistaken. Mainland Europe is a welfare state propped up by a few hard working countries. You just want protections for those that don’t hold their weight

Michael Thew

Yeah, Pete Parsons got that deal to keep Bungie going.

Michael Thew

My gut says that it was ultimately Jim Ryan's fault that the due diligence wasn't done thoroughly enough before the purchase of Bungie. He probably thought that they needed to lock Bungie down before someone else did, and pushed the deal through.

Kevin Cooper

Nardwuar. A national treasure. #DootDoot

Kevin Cooper

Sacred Symbols Plus: Chris’s live reaction to two girls one cup lol

Draven E.

Call me a little bitch baby, but I miss 4+ hour episodes 😅

Bailey Callis

Oh no..

Cormac

You would have to yell at your child so much that it would count as abuse

Gooch Gobbler

Man I would LOVE a first party horror game. We need more horror games in general

Gooch Gobbler

Hey guys. Great news about Soul Reaver. No one corrected you Colin yet, so guess I'll be the 'akschually' guy. Legacy of Kain doesn't end with Soul Reaver 2 or Blood Omen 2 - the story continues in Lok Defiance, which brings Raziel and Kain both as playable characters, and it concludes their story (to a point).

MISZCZOGRZMOT

Interested in Soul Rever. My elementary school actually had a Mac with this game installed. And would play it during downtime.

Anthony Stewart

Is there any reason not to do a c-section?

Pan Ic

Can’t wait for that Rise of the erdtree spoiler cast! Thanks Colin!

AllTooEasy_

Colin’s argument about the 2 mill cars would only save around 15 jobs for a year, like, yes? Lol

Daddy T

I think the EU consumer law that was proposed didn’t force developers to keep the game live, it just protected consumers to bring games online without fear of prosecution when said game company said they were no longer supporting it.

Gray Gordon

I did indeed buy a psvr2 about 2 months ago...

Wesali

There's a link on patreon

Killwin

On the topic of subscriptions, I appreciated recently that an app for the iPad I wanted, Goodnotes 6 gave me an option of a monthly subscription or one of payment that lasts forever. Wish more apps did this

Ryan Taylor

For realz?

Misko 1023

How do I join the last stand discord??

Misko 1023

Colin, as a respectable graffiti writer, I love hearing that you wanna put some stickers up on the back of stop signs. I have already put some of your stickers up in public in the Twin Cities MN. Let’s get last stand All Country baby! 😉

Misko 1023

Play all the 3D Mario games back to back. Dare you to put odyssey as your least favourite after 😉

Jack Johnson

Jesus's name was actually Joshua in modern times. Yeshua while he was alive. I actually learned that from a great Christopher Moore book, Lamb: The Gospel According to Biff, Christ's Childhood Pal

Ryan Zimm

Side note: Bungie gave good advise to ND about LOU online, they had not accepted that they would have to support it for a long time and not have the bandwidth to do other projects.

Hozi

It's obvious now that Bungie sold to Sony to stem the bleeding of their over expansion. They were roughly 800 when they left Activision, expanded to 1400 over Covid, now they're back to 800. Clear mismanagement and they'd be in liquidation if not for the Sony deal.

Yalingo

Chris says he never played Until Dawn, but it was in his Top 25 PS4 games...

Joseph Gedgaudas

Boars head will be fine, Publix is an institution in the south and the subs are a way of life

Caleb Peacock

I was also thinking this!!!

Peter Jansen

I'm happy for Chris and the Soul Reaver remaster but I'm worried that being it's a remaster and not a remake it is going to review/sell poorly and hurt the games legacy and chances at a new entry. While the VO and story are peak, let's be real, the gameplay holds up like crap. The box puzzles are horrendous. They would have been better off remastering the OG Blood Omen because for one it's a better game and all it really needs is some QOL updates like faster loading times and maybe a quick weapon switch function. Hopefully I'm wrong because I really want a new LoK game. I'm still buying day 1 for sure

E_DOUBLE

Craig Christ is from "Craig" a song by comedian Stephen Lynch

James Pies

Surprised to see Dustin still here!

Tristan Kimball

dont destroy my childhood like that

Nergal131

Wait...2 girls one cup was fake?

Zack

Didn't we hear a while back about Firesprite doing a new game, and it was described as a "Triple A Horror" title? I get what Dustin is saying about the type of game described in the story here - and maybe it has changed direction since earlier leaks - but an actual horror game would certainly be something a bit fresher from first party, if that's what it turns out to be of course.

Deemac

Small interesting tidbit: Jesus's actual name is Yeshua - Jesus is just an English form of the name, but what many people don't know is that so is the name Joshua. So while many English speakers don't name their child Jesus, many do use the name Joshua, which is basically just another form of the name. This is why Moses's successor Joshua, and Joshua the high priest are often seen as precursors of Jesus.

Jeffrey Rommel

A $3 Bill Y'all reference? I know a Colin title when I see it

Greg McDonald

Hey Dustin, I'm gonna predict that as long as your son is healthy which I'm sure he will be is that after 6 weeks you will be ready to get back to work. We will miss you.

drew

(38:33) For video editing, definitely check out Davinci Resolve. I was so impressed I left Premiere behind, and that was about 2 years ago. The free version is surprisingly rich in features, and the paid version is a lifetime license that works on 2 computers (pc or Mac). (Edit) I kept listening and heard what Colin said. Lol. Davinci Resolve does help with choosing a layout to mimic other programs like Premiere to make the transition easier.

Bloated Backlog

Chris I swear man, every week you say “I dunno why, but i’ve been thinking about [insert relevant topic on the show] lately” and it’s now at the point where I’m convinced you’re doing it just to see if anyone notices.

Cormac

On YouTube it’s called “RDR2 if it was actually good”

Jordan Clarmont

The American mind cannot comprehend mighty EU consumer protection, hopefully the initiative passes but we'll have to wait and see, I think it would be a great thing for the industry in the long term.

David D

I think your Bungie numbers are wrong. They are going from 1300 to 850 total. That includes the layoffs, the re assigned people and the spin off studio.

Phil Walker

What is the rdr2 video they keep talking about?

latenitecali

Dustin's baby just doesn't want to come out in this crazy world. Honestly who can blame little Herman Furman?

The Late Nate

Skipped ahead to see if the Boar's Head merch I sent showed up lol it sure did. I don't know why they make those aprons so damn large

Austin DuBose

I feel like Dustin's first co-op game with that baby boy will have to be "Overcooked," no?

Adam Morris

Lol

drew

Shout out to my fellow Leo’s 🙌

Michael Mashpotato

Bugie layoffs

I'm glad John Lennon was murdered

Before the dark times, before the Boar’s Head…before the Empire

Cyprus Davis

ChrisColinDustin is gonna be well cooked that's for sure

Deemac

First

Jason


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