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The Authors of Pain vs DIY for the NXT Tag Team Championships at Takeover San Antonio

Watch: https://streamable.com/otbsss

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It’s all in the service of the DIY story Josh.

Steamed Ham Champion Dillon Haggett

I think your criticisms of AOP are entirely valid but they've been booked really poorly since they got called up from NXT. In NXT they were billed as a couple guys who you might see as bouncers at a bar prone to fights, just big giant thugs who could beat the shit out of anyone they come across, and they were booked to carve a trail through the tag division like a hot knife through butter. On the main roster they have a similar gimmick but they're booked to lose at least as often as they win, so there's no heat behind it. I don't know if they'll ever be household names but with some decent writing I think they could get over with the main roster crowd, but they need a streak of dominant wins and they need a mouthpiece who can talk them up properly to a more casual audience. I'm not going to say that Paul Ellering wouldn't be able to do that, but he sure *hasn't* done it, and considering I've barely heard a dozen words from his mouth in the past two years I don't think he's the best guy for the job. Maybe now that Karrion Kross is getting mic time he can pull them back into relevance, but it's still a work in progress at best.

prototype27

AOP gimic are they 2 300lb raging monsters and yes they haven't been properly used on main roster either time.

Karen

Oh my. I completely forgot!

TheBlueOne

Remember when Drake Maverick was their manager?

Wilson Simons

I actually never watched this match.

Abs Ali

Couldn’t agree more!

TheBlueOne

Tally Tier matches don’t have to be voted on so we’ve got it ☺️

TheBlueOne

They failed AOP in the main roster twice and I feel like there’s no way to make them credible anymore. The thing about Paul Ellering is that he was responsible for their success in NXT, by being their mouthpiece. When AOP debuted on raw in 2018, Vince got rid of Paul and he just put Akam and Rezar in an idiotic storyline with Seth Rollins and Kevin Owens, trying to make Rollins the new leader of AOP. As you can imagine it completely failed and they were soon released. And now bringing them back and pairing them with terribly unsuccessful Kross… Just a shame. It’s a good tag team but you have to book them correctly to get a reaction

TheBlueOne

Everyone please make that the most voted!!!

WWE Jay Gaming

It’s already requested by me in the Tally Tier :)

TheBlueOne

Well i wouldn't say Ellering is the greatest manger ever he is absolutely in the conversation. He managed the Road Warriors in the 80's together they where the biggest draw in wrestling outside of Hulk Hogan. That makes them to my knowledge the only tag team in history to out draw the top guy of there respective company. For perspective that would be like DIY outdrawing Roman Reigns today

Drew Or Die

Someone request there Rematch in NXT TakeOver Chicago lol im so ready for him to react to that classic match

WWE Jay Gaming

A little hyperbolic to say greatest manager of all time, though an argument could be made. He managed the Legion of Doom who are probably the most influential tag team of all time. He also apparently managed their careers and contract negotiations off screen as well. He was entered in the hall of fame in the early 2010s.

Nate Cruz

So for me when I am judging these characters and wrestler, I think it’s key to separate their talent from their booking. Just because someone’s booking is not very good, doesn’t mean they don’t have talent and can’t be entertaining. There have been many cases in which a talent held back by Vince has gotten the chance to shine under this new era. Just my opinion though. 🤷🏾‍♂️

Dak4life

The thing that really differentiates nxt aop vs main roster aop is essentially that monter heel booking around them. In mxt they eventually got over precisely because they just randomly debuted on an nxt episode and just buldozed thru the tag division. I remember everyone thinking they were going to lose to diy too and they surprised everyone by winning. NXT aop was booked like the final bosses of the tag division, these 2 monsters that no team could keep up with. Even forcing rivals like diy and the revival to team up against them. Main Roster aop are booked like the looney toons with teams like new day and fn Alpha academy outsmarting them every week lol.

EgghedPR

One of the most underrated Takeover shows of all time 🔥🔥🔥

Phillyman!!

I wish Paul Ellering was used more he was the manager of the Road Warriors for pete’s sake. Dport you’ve probably seen those guys with the football pads with the spikes and the facepaint. I’m gonna submit one of these months Road Warriors vs Midnight Express in a Scaffold Match for you to see what the Road Warriors were like and what Paul Ellering is like.

John Coffey


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