Flint Dibble Returns
Added 2024-10-20 11:25:54 +0000 UTCWe return to the world of Graham Hancock, pseudo-archaeology, and real archaeology with Cardiff University archaeologist Flint Dibble. Sadly the senior member of the Decoding team was absent for the interview but young apprentice decoder Chris struggled on as best he could.
This episode, recorded just before the release of Ancient Apocalypse Season 2 on Netflix and Graham Hancock's associated podcast PR tour, examines the appeal of myths like Atlantis, the criticisms Flint has faced from Hancock and others, and the broader challenges of communicating good science online.
The discussion covers whether debunking false narratives is effective, Flint's experiences with public engagement and social media harassment, and the cultural significance of "edutainment." We also explore the misconceptions perpetuated in popular media and the importance of academics actively participating in public discourse to counter culture-war-fueled stereotypes.
Finally, Chris also gets Flint to acknowledge that archaeology can't disprove his stunning new theory about ancient seaweed submarines powered by coral technology.
Links
Archaeology with Flint Dibble: The Aftermath of Talking to Graham Hancock on Joe Rogan: A Reply to the Haters https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUof0k1yaNI
Archaeology with Flint Dibble: The Top 6 Penis Bones in Archaeology https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3I9ny2O8XI
New Scientist article on Flint: The archaeologist fighting claims about an advanced lost civilisation https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg26435130-400-the-archaeologist-fighting-claims-about-an-advanced-lost-civilisation/
Real-Archaeology Event! https://real-archaeology.com/
Graham Hancock's Response Video to Flint: Fact-checking science communicator Flint Dibble on Joe Rogan Experience episode 2136 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEe72Nj-AW0
Bridges Podcast: Uniting YouTube Against Fake History Frauds | MILO ROSSI & FLINT DIBBLE | Bridges https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvdATaRc5bA
The Skeptic: Dr Flint Dibble wins 2024 Skeptical Activism Ockham award https://www.skeptic.org.uk/2024/10/dr-flint-dibble-wins-2024-skeptical-activism-ockham-award/
Halmhofer, S. (2024) Manufacturing History: Atlantis, Aryans, and the use of Pseudoarchaeology by the Far-Right. Conspiracy Theories and Extremism in New Times (pp.53-81) Chapter: 3. Lexington Books.
Comments
I agree with the DtG guys most of the time, but I am not impressed by Flint Dibble. Smug condescension is not the same thing as sound scientific criticism.
Waffle Truck
2024-10-25 19:56:01 +0000 UTCI got it sorted out Linda! I’d written the same thing to The Dissenter, the other Patreon show I support and he said to check my Patreon settings. I did, and must have done something but what I can’t say and now all is working as before! So weird!
Lucy
2024-10-23 22:40:04 +0000 UTCI did not get that message.
Linda Sears
2024-10-23 22:25:45 +0000 UTCAre other people getting a message saying you have to sign in to YouTube and show that you’re not a “bot” ? I can’t watch this on Patreon the way I have for years.
Lucy
2024-10-22 23:04:35 +0000 UTCThis ep was the perfect counterbalance to JRE’s toxic tomfoolery. Just watched an infuriating youtube video that showed clips from this podcast, but the comment section has your back Dibble! https://youtu.be/JIJZ1QpR3E8?si=aDJhlFha49lK3LGx
Mitch .Sullivan
2024-10-22 12:42:59 +0000 UTCI love that Editor Andy has his own hashtag
aneladgam_varelse
2024-10-22 09:33:40 +0000 UTCThere's something I've been struggling to put my finger on for a long time now, it's a tendency in a significant percentage of thick people to give the benefit of the doubt to scumbags. It seems to transcend ideology and I see people apply it to 'true crime heroes' (see - the Krays were gentlemen etc), I see it applied politically to overtly unpleasant people from Geert Wilders to Trump, and I see it applied in real life where people will 'oh he's alright really' some despicable shit. I remember an acquaintance who did this a lot and how she reacted to the behaviour of one of her friends (beating his wife, intimidating witnesses, treating his daughter like shit in public...) by essentially arguing 'yeah but he's really funny!' Apparently her definition of 'funny' in this case was just shouting 'here she is' whenever someone entered a room. Anyway, I feel like a certain type of person has a kneejerk reaction towards shitty characters and I just can't quite figure out the through line, but I sense there's one there. Someone tell me if I'm an over caffeinated idiot?
Tom
2024-10-22 09:13:13 +0000 UTCChris, did you at any point feel tempted to say, "I know you had your run-ins with Hancock and his pseudoarcheological buddies, but aren't you just digging up ancient history now?"
Robert Andrews
2024-10-22 05:29:29 +0000 UTCWow! This is serious business with significant real-world impacts. Rogan and Hancock, raking in the spoils of their grifting, boosting low lifes who mobilize their troll armies to try and get Flint fired, while Flint navigates precarious access to health care to make sure his family doesn't suffer financial ruin if he gets sick again. The whole culture wars mess feels more gross than usual today. Thanks Matt and Chris for continuing to hold the gurisphere up to a higher standard. And thanks to Flint for patiently continuing to educate regular folk.
Lori Kiel
2024-10-21 22:59:57 +0000 UTCLol I could sense that Chris foresaw an evil vision of a future “Decoding the Dibble” , yoda-anakin style, a few times
Jake Kortum
2024-10-21 19:45:22 +0000 UTCAnd, of course, the “mavericks” 😆
Monica B.
2024-10-21 14:31:22 +0000 UTCOnly about t3/4 of the way through, but Flint is such a delight. I really hope he can serve as a model of sorts for other science minded academics to counter the charlatans and grifters!
Monica B.
2024-10-21 14:10:46 +0000 UTCBy the way! I can confirm there are at least two Decoding the Guru’s fans in Cardiff
Joshua Davies
2024-10-21 08:24:23 +0000 UTCThis might be a naive question but... what kind of loser chooses some random Atlantis believing, grandpa-esque, petty whackjob as their hero to the point they feel compelled to orchestrate an online attack against an archeologist who publicly questions said whackjob... I mean... how empty and meaningless and shitty and pathetic does one's life have to be to engage in this... I am bamboozled... There's gotta be a better way to spend your time even for them.
Chomagerider
2024-10-21 05:41:35 +0000 UTCThanks for asking him my questions, the point about the historical racism in archeology was interesting
Jack
2024-10-21 02:43:53 +0000 UTCGraham Hancock is the Steven Segal of archeology, it looks like he's doing archeology, but he's mostly flopping about making archeology-sounding noises. I really feel for Flint, he's studied for many years to earn his title and spent even longer in the field doing real science only to have people like Rogan /a self proclaimed dummy/ worth a few hundred million dollars tell him he's an ignorant power hungry liar. I'm really looking forward to Flint's book and he also didn't shill his patreon, so: https://www.patreon.com/FlintDibble
Jack
2024-10-21 02:42:23 +0000 UTCI think the canoe section was repeated in the audio version? (Or my player skipped back for some reason)
Ryan Booker
2024-10-20 21:47:17 +0000 UTCAnd thanks for asking my meandering question.
Linda Sears
2024-10-20 20:17:04 +0000 UTCI loved what he said about using a consensus based positive to disprove a negative. Flint rocks. 🪨
Linda Sears
2024-10-20 19:56:02 +0000 UTCAndy, Andy…
Christopher Kavanagh
2024-10-20 19:05:06 +0000 UTCThat was a treat, you both have great best friend energy 😀 its fab to see Flint looking well and in great form. Glad he’s getting the attention he deserves on the socials. If he wants us to promote anything on the platforms I’m sure a bunch of us would help out. Totally bummed about the Netflix special staring Neo from the MATTrix 😩😊 Nice job Chris, for a change… kidding.
Rob Leslie Jr
2024-10-20 17:00:09 +0000 UTCEnjoying so far, but didn't even realize you guys had a previous convo… also @23:30 there's a lil surname typo that I'm sure is par for the course for you by now, oh mighty guru Chris 🙏
Empty_Cognizance
2024-10-20 14:39:22 +0000 UTCThank you! I hope you conveyed to him how much we appreciate what he’s been doing.
Linda Sears
2024-10-20 12:39:58 +0000 UTCA welcome sight in these troubled times!
Reinert
2024-10-20 11:36:09 +0000 UTC
