Supplementary Material 15: Russian Stooges, Lex's Lovebomb, and Heterodox Insights
Added 2024-09-16 04:01:38 +0000 UTCWe rip off the plastic mask to reveal the true gurus lurking underneath and discuss:
01:20 Russian Propaganda and Influencer Scandal
13:50 Profit Incentives and the Need for Disclosure
23:50 Excessive Profiteering and Advertising
30:55 Lex Fridman interviews Trump (with love)
42:49 Trump and Conspiracy Theories
45:41 Trump and Kamala Debate Reactions and the Heterodox Take
55:11 Destiny vs. the Alternative Media
59:38 When Joe met Bret
01:11:30 Projection and Hypocrisy
01:15:51 Gabor Maté and Neuroimaging Studies
01:25:40 Matt's HUGE Correction on Twitter Funding
01:33:09 The University of Austin in Texas still exists
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I had exactly the same thought. Even thought about relistening the episode and counting every time Joe and Bret referenced that mysterious "they". Unfortunately I can't stand that insanity again just to make a point. Thanks for the observation though.
Tuomas V
2024-09-24 13:41:46 +0000 UTCcaptain Orange sounds so old, tired, and demented
Jamison Shipley
2024-09-19 20:54:35 +0000 UTCThankyou for keeping us sane … in an insane world ❤️
Jill
2024-09-19 01:10:36 +0000 UTCThe fact that the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board granted the University of Austin degree conferring status was not surprising to learn. I’d be super curious to know what the creative writing classes are like. Having just perused their website, it was odd that they had no professor whose sole disciplinary focus was history. No social sciences in the mix either except for economics and political science.
Linda Sears
2024-09-18 17:21:09 +0000 UTCYou guys are simply the best. Thank you.
Julie
2024-09-18 00:52:10 +0000 UTCWinner gets a Jordan Peterson crazy blazer
Adam Sher
2024-09-17 20:18:53 +0000 UTCYou think they'll have rowboat races?
Roland Weber
2024-09-17 18:47:45 +0000 UTCBret and JR used so much “THEY” in their clips that I felt myself starting to believe them. I mean, the thought of a mysterious, nefarious THEY is just too fun and intriguing to ignore. How boring is it to live in a world where all THEY are just normal people like us.
Idan Ca
2024-09-17 16:21:20 +0000 UTCYes, that was am impressively cringeworthy humblebrag
Andreas Singer
2024-09-17 15:46:04 +0000 UTCBy the way, Lex’s I could have been having fun making robots had I not been sacrificing myself to make a podcast that will better the world reminds me of Trump’s I could have been relaxing and enjoying my success had I not been out here fighting for you line at his campaign rallies.
Linda Sears
2024-09-17 12:31:33 +0000 UTCLex the love farmer. He doesn’t seem to get what historians do. They’re not creating immortal narratives. I’d guess historians in the future will use all the click bait stuff we’ve created to figure out how we were as a culture.
Linda Sears
2024-09-17 11:56:39 +0000 UTCYet he still sounded like a 8 year old
Níall Faughnan
2024-09-17 09:03:13 +0000 UTCGabor Mate’s son Aaron is a untapped gold mine of pro Russia disinformation, I would not be surprised if the kremlin is not funding far left media like his outlet. Aaron is on Ukraine’s shit list for his Putin apologist rhetoric. Aaron once interview Gabor, where Gabor was linking his trauma research to the Wests foreign policy causing trauma on Russia… quite egregious claims.
Mark Francis
2024-09-17 06:08:21 +0000 UTCAh, yeah that I have not seen evidence for. Sounds like an inferiority complex which probably isn’t helped by the guests he has on who actually have made notable contributions to computer science and are legendary figures in that domain
Milquetoast Ramen
2024-09-17 02:11:05 +0000 UTCGo to the membership tab on Patreon. Scroll down to "Listen on other podcast apps" And copy the link into your podcast app. I use Downcast. Works great.
Kerena
2024-09-17 01:50:03 +0000 UTCIs there a way to get this in RSS for a podcast app?
Pixel-davis
2024-09-17 01:30:08 +0000 UTCIf I interpreted this correctly, Brett says that vaccines' negative effect on people in any individual case is hard to determine, yet says the negative effect is detectable at the statistical level; to me this seems analogous to thinking meta analyses from bad studies can yield quality insights.
deanofcaffeine
2024-09-17 01:12:41 +0000 UTCRepeating banal ideas = ok. Repeating banal ideas as if they are novel insights while citing non-replicable neuroimaging studies = not good.
Christopher Kavanagh
2024-09-17 00:43:56 +0000 UTCI agree that it is an ideological education but I don't know if I would describe it as hard right, but agree that if Thiel & co. approve it's not a good thing/
Christopher Kavanagh
2024-09-17 00:42:53 +0000 UTCHaving basic programming abilities isn’t what Lex presents himself as having. Lex might be able to write some code but the notion he’s making important contributions to research? There’s no evidence for it.
Christopher Kavanagh
2024-09-17 00:31:58 +0000 UTCSome slight pushback on your response to Gabor Mate's "we are all capable of being nazis" idea. I'm sure for many people that is a novel idea, my mother still holds some prejudice against German people for WW2, as though they are uniquely bad in some way. Sometimes banal ideas need to be repeated.
David Noble
2024-09-17 00:27:22 +0000 UTCRogan is too much. ‘Saving democracy’ —he asserts ‘they’ place the importance of this above everything. In his list he says ‘letting the people decide’. Holy fu, dude. The ignorance is … beyond. And has he not heard trump’s rhetoric? ‘They’re destroying our country. In fact, We won’t have a country if…’ It’s just so stooopid It’s no longer Rogan falling for trolls. It’s Rogan trolling himself.
Kgar
2024-09-16 22:17:59 +0000 UTCDon't forget PragerU where it looks like James Lindsay evolved to his final form: https://youtu.be/9hCr6XNHoIw?si=MYdrA8Gehmo3HoHv
Adam Sher
2024-09-16 20:49:05 +0000 UTCLove it!
Christopher Kavanagh
2024-09-16 19:56:22 +0000 UTCYou guys out here sounding like Chomsky during the first segment calling out the influence of money/capitalism within the media/information landscape 😁
Devin Poore
2024-09-16 18:57:34 +0000 UTCLooking forward to when future historians can finally settle the question of what Donald Trump thought of Joe Rogan, and why he disrespected him that one time.
brianshmrian
2024-09-16 18:13:27 +0000 UTCLOL. I am happy to see what hopefully becomes competition in higher ed. The certificate programs seem to be unhelpful, code academies are narrowly focused, and MOOCs have atrocious completion rates (but I root for those the most)
Adam Sher
2024-09-16 17:05:47 +0000 UTCWhat about Peterson Academy?
Linda Sears
2024-09-16 17:01:40 +0000 UTCIf you want to shout your heterdox views and be uncancellable, become an accountant. There's such a huge shortage of them, particularly in audit, that you'll practically be allowed to show up to client meetings in your best IDW speedo
Adam Sher
2024-09-16 15:20:50 +0000 UTCRe accreditation, you have to offer a degree first. Drexel Law school went through the same thing 12-14 years ago. So those early classes took a leap of faith that their degree would be worth something by the time they finished school so they could sit for the bar exam
Adam Sher
2024-09-16 15:16:54 +0000 UTCI'm rooting for U Austin.
Adam Sher
2024-09-16 15:13:07 +0000 UTCI’m less sure about Lex’s history with MIT, credentials, and skills as a programmer than you both are. His background with MIT is more suspect other than that one video of him lecturing an intro course, but I can believe what he’s claimed about his skills with robotics and programming. For example he posted this which he claimed to have programmed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy_oYCNhiUI Not to say he couldn’t lie about it or that it isn’t shitty code, but seems easier to believe he actually programmed it given the fact that he can clearly follow along and engage with computer scientists and programmers in his interviews.
Milquetoast Ramen
2024-09-16 14:01:00 +0000 UTCWow two huge spreaders of misinformation talking about others spreading misinformation. They both need a kick.
Tim Tripp
2024-09-16 13:57:28 +0000 UTCJust in time!
Linda Sears
2024-09-16 11:51:51 +0000 UTCBoy I pity the fools who enrol for that IDW University in Austin. Just like Chris, I’m shocked that they even made it this far but yeah it’s scary. Think it’s just going to serve as a propaganda organisation stuffing the selected few impressionable and gullible students with a hard-right ideological agenda. Of course, those students are not going to get grad jobs after graduation; but hell they will serve really well as the brainwashed new generation of youngsters who rich billionaires and tech bros (Peter Thiel, Sacks, Musk, Andreesen etc) can handpick straight for their organisations. They can do a good job as lobbyists, influencers, right wing thought leaders etc. Basically it’s a lifetime indoctrination of sorts that these deplorables always accuse the mainstream education and liberals off; while quietly pushing their own nefarious agendas.
SHOUNAK SARKAR
2024-09-16 11:16:22 +0000 UTCDoes Lex read stories for the Calm App? I think I recognize him from that midnight train sleep story. Also guys, numbers no one has ever heard of! Like infinite ♾️ numbers of listeners!
Liz Tily
2024-09-16 10:20:37 +0000 UTCTalking about his media strategy is the most coherent I’ve ever heard Trump.
Ryan Booker
2024-09-16 08:33:22 +0000 UTCYeah, if you are actually an imposter "imposter syndrome" is just being self aware lol
Will
2024-09-16 07:56:29 +0000 UTCI’m looking forward to hearing Chris reading out an ad for «Moooink» or that weird mushroom coffee Eric Weinstein read ads for.😄
Marfolini
2024-09-16 07:29:29 +0000 UTCI absolutely lost it at Lex Fridman saying he has "impostor syndrome". It's not impostor syndrome if you actually are a moron who doesn't deserve to be successful!
Phoebe
2024-09-16 07:04:44 +0000 UTCTim Pool couldn’t get a better mic with all that Russian dosh?
Jenson
2024-09-16 06:51:26 +0000 UTCYay!
Violet
2024-09-16 05:22:13 +0000 UTC👍🏻 Morning commute sorted👍🏻😃
Ceri
2024-09-16 05:12:45 +0000 UTC😎😎😎
Jake Lawrence
2024-09-16 04:06:16 +0000 UTC
