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How the viewfinder shots happened (and needed fixing)

Hello again!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33yvx6Uui-c

Back with a quick thing on Connextras about getting the through-the-viewfinder shots. Ironically... it involved After Effects

How the viewfinder shots happened (and needed fixing)

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It's a shame the camera video didn't do so well with Youtube's algorithm. Speaking for myself it's one of my favourite videos so far. I've watched it 4 or 5 times now.

Richard Stephens

Plus, I can show you Mocha, the slightly better motion tracking tool supplied with Creative Cloud

Asaf Sagi

Hey, I'm a video editor and I'd be happy to give you a short session on how to begin dealing with After Effects, from the perspective of a Premiere user. Message me if you're interested :)

Asaf Sagi

You mentioned you don't need a very fancy phone, and even though like you, I'm fascinated by technology, I feel the exact same way. Five to ten years ago, I'd buy the very best of the best - back when you could do that without taking out a mortgage - but I simply don't see the point anymore. About two years ago I bought a Pixel 2XL, and it's still like new today. I can still get through two days on one charge easily, it still doesn't slow down, it still takes awesome photos, even compared to the best of the best of today, and yes, it can still place calls. I think the Pixel range of phones is just what pretty much everyone needs in a phone. Not too much, just decent. Pretty much every aspect is good enough, without being awesome-yay-wow-great. Also, about the "this is connextras, you don't get a polished video", I think that's why people are here, just hanging out, talking about tech. Plenty of polished content out there, but just down to earth hanging out is rare.

Tim Derks

Thanks for this video, really interesting, and the original light meter one too! I know the deed was done already so you had to get on and fix it, which must have been a real 'oh crap' moment' so this doesn't really help! But I think you said you weren't sure if the stabilisation was something that could be disabled? Not sure about in the OnePlus camera app, but you can switch it off in the Pixel/Google one... I guess the scenarios you may want to disable it in are limited to the one you already had though!

Paul Sharp

I love these behind the scenes & mishaps videos, more please! Learn just as much from them as from the official ones :)

Jonas

Love your honesty, thanks. Our "mistakes" often take us into new directions. "Losing the plot" was a rather apt choice of words. By the way, I suddenly remembered measuring to that film plane datum mark on the camera body for some scientific work long ago. Also some lenses used to have an infra-red focus point engraved on them.

Peter Bryenton

This is really all I have done in After Effects, I didn't notice the processing so it worked well. What size screen are you using here? the UI scaling looks incredibly tiny on my 40" screen.

Matt Tester

The phone was using its gyroscope to sense how it was moving in physical space. In most cases this helps tremendously because it shoots with a cropped frame that it can move around to an extent. If it applies the opposite movement that the gyroscope senses, the image becomes much smoother. And you can see how items *within* the frame look quite smooth. Trouble is, I don't want that because it's the frame itself that is the subject.

Technology Connections

So just so I understand what was happening here -- the phone was trying to motion stabilize the stable viewfinder image? I don't understand why it was trying to do that? Can someone explain this for dummies? :) Thanks.

Hank Lloyd Right

Such a shame this video isn't performing well. I found it extremely informative, and now I want that model F-1

orange slice

Re File sizes, you could also just import the after effects composition into premiere as is, and let Premiere handle the export. Super convenient.

orange slice

I’m the complete opposite, I've been learning After Effects since 2011 but then I saw many used Premiere so I wanted to switch but I just didn't like the workflow, it’s completely different and most of all I find it extremely limiting. There are some things it does better (like color work and voiceovers), but you can barely animate anything in it, so I doubt I’ll ever stop using AE. The tracker is so much faster when you use a desktop computer with GPU CUDA acceleration, AE on a laptop and CPU in general is painful. But even on a powerful desktop with a GPU there’s a lot of performance things you have to think about because the way it renders things is completely different. Transcode your footage first and it will work much better (variable frame rate footage from smartphones is AE’s worst nightmare, they only recently fixed major bugs with it). There’s also a different stabilize tool for footage where the whole frame moves not just a subject in the frame, that one’s faster and can give better results but learning to use the point tracker will be super useful in future. As for the file sizes you’re likely exporting the project through After Effect’s built-in render which will just do image sequences giving you insane file sizes but near perfect quality, instead export through Adobe Media Encoder and select the correct .mp4 codec and bitrate (there’s YouTube presets) you will get vastly more reasonable file sizes (it took me a long time to figure that one out).

WizardTim

Watching film photo youtubers, it seems people tend to search for things specific to their model over broader concepts, so they often say the model-special ones do better. Given your video is specific to that camera, maybe put Canon F1 in the title? While I found it interesting, because my cameras are different brands and have different features, I probably would not have seen your video if I was not already a follower.

Eris Alar

Ahhh yes, the cheap, grey concrete pavers from Menards. I'm a big fan, probably installed hundreds of them over the years.

Mark Hesse

It's so frustrating when you can tell within 60 minutes that a video you've worked on so much isn't going to go well.

Big Car

/u/stabbot does this on reddit, and seemingly very quickly. here's a local script I found quickly to do the same thing: https://github.com/drcouzelis/stabmyvid

adcurtin

For those of us that get the early releases, when we watch the early release video do you get the same "credit" as when people watch it as a normal release?

Robert McCullough

Hah... we all do the dumb sometimes. I enjoyed the light meter video, no idea why it wouldn't do well. I got into photography when auto focus, metering, exposure were everywhere and it's cool to see things like the light meter. Technologies that I may never need to rely on but the elegance of their implementation fascinates. Also, you made me think about pulling open some of my cameras to gawk at the prisms, though they're all of the "blobby topped" generation.

Alan B.


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