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A small update...

  

Ah… so today I had a huge argument with my parents regarding my future plans…

Recently I found out that since my university course is a master degree, it actually go on all the way to August. (Don’t worry, early June I will still make some new works as promised!)

This affect my sort of plan in summer a lot, originally I thought my course finish in June, and so I will stay in UK a bit and work part time, then go back Hong Kong for good.

Now because it goes all the way to August, my parents start pressuring me to stay in UK, and find a full time job in UK. 

I explain I want a part time job because I want to do my own drawings online, but my parents doesn’t support me and think my anime drawings are a waste of time… Then I explain I actually got some commissions, rewards and other promise I owe to my fans, and which is why I thought of a solution on getting a part time job so I still get job experience as well as some money. My mum replied I shouldn’t have accepted commission or anything from the start when I know I am going to finish university soon. It annoys me so much how they don’t support me, to let me try this possibility. My patreon is slowly working out, and I am gaining more followers on pixiv etc, but my parents just don’t care and want me to get a normal job…

Some of you (as some on deviantArt already did) might suggest that I should work a year or 2 first, then try go back into drawing after when I saved up some money. The trouble is that I am not sure if I will carry on drawing if I stopped. Honestly I have emotion issue back in highschool, and nowadays I always think very negative, make me like and hate drawing at the same time. The longer I don’t draw the higher level of hate it gets, and eventually I will just stop drawing for good. (in a way, at the moment it is sort of happening… not as bad though…)

These days I don’t know what to do with life anymore… I actually really want to carry on drawing, which is why I made patreon and also try do more things to make people happy and interest in my works… but as my parents not really supporting me, and say I know what I really am inside, makes me sometime think if I should really continue drawing, maybe I am just not the right material… 

Anyway, sorry for the annoying long update…

A small update...

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It is because the choices are hard to like, that makes it difficult to choose. And haha, yes I understand what you mean on the save files, but gave up is also the correct phrase to use here, as it means you sacrifice your data for the sake of others. I didn’t gave up my save though, in return I am/ will be trying to spread more love of this game via drawings XD but maybe one day, one day I will do it… XD

I don't consider those choices are difficult, as I stated "I didn't like the choices" ... however, when I choose to delete all my saves in order to rescue a random player - that made me "feel good". So no, I didn't "give-up" my save files ... after all, I willingly "exchanged" them for someone else's life.

Frank Leo

Forcing you to make difficult choices is such a typical Yoko Taro’s thing to do LOL Ooo so you gave up your save???

The game forced me to make choices that I didn't like, not even when I select another choice in replays ... all choices just make me feel terrible and sad. However, at the end of the True Ending - E ... the choice of delete all my save files in order to save someone else actually made me feel "good".

Frank Leo

I hope you liking it so far~ For me this game is truly one of the best gaming experience I ever had... (≧∇≦)

I am still playing NieR Automata ...

Frank Leo

The part on 2 years I totally agree with you, not to mention by going away from what you love for so long might result you not liking it anymore as well. Although I did hear from a friend’s friend that went into industry learning a lot faster and more than usual, which is a good thing, but my concern is more about if I even have time/energy to draw my own stuff anymore. For the idea on part time job, it cannot sustain my living expense such as place to live etc, and which is why my parents really against it as it still I will still need their support. But this idea provides easy experience and also time for me to draw my own stuff! My idea is doing this for 2-3 years, and if patreon still not getting anywhere I will eventually have to just find a job, but at least by then (hopefully) I would have finish drawing some of my main story ideas. LOL, I wish my parents are billionaires XD My family is just normal middle class in HK, which is why they want me to study hard and be the upper class… hence the pressure throughout my life… Although that being said, my parents are actually not as pushy as I made them to be, and which is why sometimes I feel sad as I cannot meet their expectation, as I always say, I really don’t deserve them… sigh..

Damn where do people live that a part-time job can pay the bills and sustain a comfortable life? I doubt many places in the UK, and certainly nowhere in Hong Kong. The fact that ppshex's parents live in Hong Kong suggests money, but I don't know if that's a stereotype. Or maybe I know less of the world than I think, but in pretty much every major US city a part time job is unlikely to sustain you.

Mana Ray

My guardian is a hypnotherapist and she offers me help if I need it, I will see maybe to ask her help in summer or sth… Anyway thank you for advice.

Well I did purpose I get a part time job so I can draw my own stuff on the side, but my parents want me to get a full time job. Trouble with that is, if I get an art related job, there is super low chance I will have energy or motivation to work on “contents” online, if it is just a normal job, very likely I won’t even have energy to draw when I back, as I seen too many of my friends stop doing what they like as job is too tiring. Not to mention each drawing I put tons of hours into it, so it is quite hard to work along with a full time job, not to mention the emotional reason I mention above.

I tried talk to them about how I feel and what I really want to do, but ultimately they just end up talking about normal jobs, I guess it is just Asian parents being Asian… It is hard to suddenly change how I think as I have been thinking negatively about live since highsch. Anyway thank you very much for the comment and support.

But if result is bad, then I betrayed the time and effort they put on me, which is why this is an annoying topic >A< And lol I didn’t expect a random NieR reference here.

As I wrote in my earlier post, it's really difficult to tell you what's right and wrong without knowing your situation better. I think it's normal for a parent who always had a "normal" job, to tell their children to get normal jobs too. That doesn't mean it's right, they just made the experience that this is a safe way to pay the bills. However, abandoning the thing you love for the sake of your parents is a bad idea. One of my friends followed his parent's wishes down to the smallest detail, and he is essentially a robot now. I can't talk to him anymore, because he doesn't have any of his original interests left. Only paying his bills and pleasing his parents. I don't like the advice of earning money for two years and getting back to drawing afterwards. Your skill will get rusty, or if it's a job where you draw, your art style will change to whatever your art director wants, and it will be difficult to quit. I learned all this 3D stuff, but decided against getting a job in the VFX or game industry, because I want to keep having fun doing the thing I like. Sometimes I wish I had a better paying job, but although my current one is full-time, it's pretty relaxed and doesn't burn me out, so I have energy left to work on my 3D stuff. From the ideas you posted, I think the part-time job would work best. Ideally it should cover your basic living expenses, so that you don't need to be stressed about producing enough art. But whatever kind of job you do, especially if it's artwork or games related, pay attention to your work contract, so that you keep the rights to your own artwork and characters. The contract should also allow you to have and extra income from patreon and commissions. Especially in the games industry there are many horror stories of companies taking advantage of young people who just finished uni, but don't have job experience yet. Remember, the contract terms are not set in stone. Don't be afraid to negotiate. A halfway decent company shouldn't care about your patreon and commissions, as long as you're well-rested on the job. As I said, it's difficult to give definite advise, because I might be missing important details. (For example your parents might be billionaires and could disinherit you if you don't do exactly what they want.) While it's important to pay your bills and social security payments, it's also important that you don't become a soul-less corporate slave.

Takuya Sawatari

You should make choices for your life also ... not following "everything" your parents say. Be the end result good or bad, at least it is your own choice - just like in NieR Automata

Frank Leo

I can see what your parents concerned, and I can feel your upset too. It's difficult to make everything right in life, but fortunately, you always have chances to make it better. Why not think more carefully about your future plan, think about why your parents don't support you, make a better plan, and explain your feeling to your parents. It won't be easy for people to understand each other, but if you really want to keep drawing, it's important for yourself to enjoy drawing, as important as making your fans happy with you works. Try to calm down and think positive, let your fans feel your happiness through your drawing, your fans do want to see more of your drawing, but I believe they will also be happy to see you live a happy life, no matter what you choose at the end.

Patreon is cool because it's an anonymous social network so we can be more honest with each other. My parents, my friends don't even know what I do here. Obviously any advice I give you will be colored by the fact that I enjoy your artwork and I want to see you make more of it. Could you find a job and draw on the side? I work a job and write on the side and other artists do this too. I think part of being an artist is facing your parents' disappointment that you aren't a lawyer or doctor or financier or something more 'prestigious' though.

Mana Ray

Honestly, I think it would be best if you speak with some doctor about it. If you can't find someone that supports you in your family, maybe you should try asking someone else. I know what it must feel like to have an odd love-hate relationship with something, and I think there are ways to sort it out. At this point all I can say is just do what you believe in, but don't be afraid to ask help too. You have friends and supporters, and we all think you'll do great. In times of stress, you can always have friends to help deal with it. You can listen to your parents if you want to, but you can also trust your friends. As I've said earlier, I believe that maybe looking to a doctor may help, if it's possible, I know I need a doctor when I feel extremely moody, and I think it's the best helpful advice I can provide. I hope this has been uplifting and make you feel better in the long run.

Hans Lim


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