FMAB Episode 37 Reaction Extended (YT link below)
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too soon, but will there be a fmab rewatch? ;)
Fredo_Credo
2021-02-04 22:20:05 +0000 UTCThat is insane. So the speech is in RESPONSE to that first conversation
Alex G
2021-02-03 03:32:09 +0000 UTCI'll probably have more to say about this after I finish the show and have more perspective, and I'm just speculating here, but I think the sins at least do represent potential pitfalls of humanity, with or without God, especially in excess. The view of the Homunculi (especially Envy it seems) is that humans are weak and disgusting creatures by nature, and since (I'm guessing) the homunculi have human origins, their sins reprsent the worst side of humanity. Their names would probably work with other negative traits though. Taking it a step further, what does it mean to turn away from God exactly? While I think some may take this as a strictly religious way of thinking, it's conceivable that God is something like the truth or goodness as they relate to natural order, or perhaps harmony with something along the lines of all is one, one is all. And so as those sins DO seem to be negative forces for human life, I think it's possible for that to be consistent without Christianity.
Alex G
2021-02-03 03:29:09 +0000 UTCHaha they were able to communicate a whole plan with just a look. It's satisfying to watch
Alex G
2021-02-03 03:21:20 +0000 UTCI think he sees his morality as beyond good and evil, and is more of like... a high value on raw experience and ultimate living.
Alex G
2021-02-03 03:20:55 +0000 UTCOh crap! All those double meanings. That's some good writing.
Kotryna
2021-02-02 20:13:55 +0000 UTCI think it's still useful to have them be named for the deadly sins. It seems most people are familiar with the concept even if they don't practice Christianity. Their society doesn't appear to value religion, I'd agree, but I think that's where you have to suspend your disbelief. Like, alchemy doesn't exist in the real world. The show draws inspiration from other areas to create this story. IMO, the religious details are kind of beside the point. But like you said, the sins are ways of turning away from God, so I think that's where the symbolism becomes important. [SPOILER because it's explained later] Father creates them because he tries to get rid of his sins to *become* God. So in a sense, he's turned away from God by trying to become it, and that plan flops and he's punished. Also, another good aspect for the sin's symbolism is how the sins aren't so bad, in a way? Their names still retain some of their meaning. Like Envy turns out has just been envious of humans. Greed ended up desiring friendship. So kind of like you said, the sins aren't inherently bad. And maybe that's what the show tries to portray. But also there is a form of divine law in their universe, in that there is the "Truth" which punishes people who commit the ultimate taboo. On the topic of Lust, she doesn't really have a personality that you'd associate with lust, but she does have one of bloodlust. Depends what definition of lust you use. I'm not too familiar with what the Bible says about it though.
Kotryna
2021-02-02 20:11:13 +0000 UTCi mean, lust(character) had really very little to do with the sin, she was just a very interesting and compelling villain.
Bruno Thompson
2021-02-02 13:02:27 +0000 UTCThe supposedly cute scene with "Selim" reading the essay about his "dad" was actually Pride passive-aggressively reminding Wrath about where his loyalties should truly lie; with his "family". Earlier in the same episode Wrath was talking to Pride about how he is getting used to living as the leader of Amestris and confessed how he enjoys living among humans.
Ruma Risto
2021-02-02 11:27:26 +0000 UTCI fully believe that he is genuine here about his respect for the Rockbells. Though by the timeline, I'm pretty certain he was lying about being sent to protect them. They were killed by Scar after he recovered from Kimblee's philosopher stone powered attack. But Kimblee after that returned to the leaders who gave him the stone, blew them up to conceal the fact that he still had the stone, and then was arrested for doing that.
Burk314
2021-02-02 10:38:30 +0000 UTCI love that you recognized that Kimblee was most likely not lying to Winry, if there is something Kimblee loves it's devotion to ones true nature and calling and to the Rockbell's that has always been to help
The Bird of Hermes
2021-02-02 09:45:08 +0000 UTC2003 Selim is all of Goodwin's worst fears though.
ArmdVctr
2021-02-02 09:42:20 +0000 UTCi've had this thought for awhile, espeically since Alex said at the end maybe the shadow of glory is the sin of pride, and hopefully others can add more persepctive for me, but i don't feel like the sins are as strong without religion. the idea of the seven deadly sins is exclusive to christianity (as far as what i could find) and while we're introduced to a religion in fma/fmab, the sins aren't portrayed concepts in that religion. the only reason why the sins are considered "deadly" within the church is bc any of those traits in excess, turn people away from God. for example, you could argue that greed is another word for ambition or something along those lines; there's nothing inherently bad about being ambitious and wanting more for yourself, but the church believes there comes a point where wanting too much becomes selfish, goes against the church teachings, and takes away from worshipping God - same with all the other sins. i think they're even refered to as the "sins of man" in fmab, but in a society that values sience and alchemy and doesn't have a strong, central religion, why do sins exist? sins are violations against divine law but there is no widespread belief in a divine being in their universe so why would the sins as concepts even exist to be manifested into hommunculi? imo, the hommunculi as sins work fine as villains but they could've been switched out for any other seven villains with different names and it wouldn't change the story that much. i hope any of this makes sense and doesn't sound too pretentious i'd really love to hear other people's thoughts bc none of my friends are really into fmab and all of them are tired of me talking about it😅
Linh Nguyen
2021-02-02 08:45:03 +0000 UTCKimblee respects those who stay true their convictions. Not only those who talk the talk but walk the walk.
Jason Serrano
2021-02-02 08:08:54 +0000 UTCFrom personal experience with a younger brother (our age gap also being the same as the Elrics) who's been my best friend since before my earliest memories, I can confirm that often you can communicate with each other with a simple look. It only gets better as you get older. They were on the same page as soon as Edward said "I know, Al" lol The sibling energy in this show is very real and it's why my brother and I loved it from a young age. Such great characters.
Aaron Ong
2021-02-02 05:20:20 +0000 UTCHaha I just realized I posted this out of order for the Cabbage Corp tier. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. Episode 34 will be out tomorrow
Alex G
2021-02-02 04:55:58 +0000 UTCI'm glad :) It's a great scene and it's way more interesting and to me way more plausible that he's not trying to trick her or anything. He basically has her right where he wants here already anyway.
Alex G
2021-02-02 04:54:42 +0000 UTCYour face when Selim sneaks up on Hawkeye literally had me in tears. 😂😂😂
thevoidbender
2021-02-02 04:54:13 +0000 UTCOh no
Alex G
2021-02-02 04:52:54 +0000 UTCmost people (not kimbly) see themselves as good even when there is somehow still so much suffering brought upon others by their actions.. I think kimbly's perspective could come partly from rebelling against caring about who is good or pretending, and he justifies taking out people through a flipped perspective seeing people as mostly bad.. There are a lot of different paths that could have brought him to where he is now.. I'm not sure about any of this though lol. Haven't slept, writing this on impulse. Kimbly may also see himself as smarter or above others like monculi leading him to underestimate everyone. I also like how Pride has always been prideful when we've seen him.. ether about the country, his father, etc.
Kamolak
2021-02-02 04:52:36 +0000 UTCWhat happened to episode 34??
Hidden Ruu
2021-02-02 04:46:52 +0000 UTCyour reaction to the kimblee/winry car ride scene was, in a way, quite satisfying & refreshing because most reactors don't really understand how truly complex of a character kimblee is. folks usually just assume he's totally making things up just to get on winry's good side & don't really try to look any deeper than that. really appreciate your take on the conversation, it's pretty much spot on with what me & many other longtime fmab fans believe!
miri
2021-02-02 04:40:38 +0000 UTCFuher's wife: He's the pride of my life
Kamolak
2021-02-02 04:38:39 +0000 UTCLOL finally I can enjoy your reaction to Selim. It is hilarious you got fully played by the show, a lot of reactors already know/have it spoiled or just figure it out/predict it before you did, and you are always 10 steps ahead of most of these shows in analysis so it was great to see a true surprise.
benj
2021-02-02 04:35:43 +0000 UTCVery interessting you mentioned his connection to the moon. I never noticed it but it is definetly something to look out for in regards to later episodes. I am so pumped haha :D
Alice 1510
2021-02-02 04:34:03 +0000 UTCThat's what's so great about his character, is that in some ways his beliefs feel more consistent and fully thought out than most people. He's exceptional in his way, but also terrible, which is confusing and not common for characters.
Alex G
2021-02-02 04:20:01 +0000 UTCI really wanna go back and watch all the Selim scenes now
Alex G
2021-02-02 04:18:36 +0000 UTCAhhh you didn't let me down with the Pride reaction! And yes, that was a pun, though by the writers, not Hawkeye. :)
jdthebud
2021-02-02 04:02:40 +0000 UTCI personally view Kimblee as an utterly amoral Existentialist. He doesn't put much worth in any traditional, societal or even ethical values, but he holds great respect for an individual's own beliefs and the willingness to stick to it, regardless of whether he agrees to it or not. He also values strength, because to him that is the only way to prove an individual's beliefs against the world. Unlike most other characters with this kind of philosophy though, Kimblee is also completely willing to face the consequences of his actions should they catch up to him (because that would be a choice made by the "world" itself). That's what makes him fascinating, really; if you take out his amorality and murderphilic tendencies out of the equation, Solf J. Kimblee is almost admirable in his steadfastness.
Say
2021-02-02 03:41:51 +0000 UTC"My father is a good man, he always listens when I talk to him." "You never know Selim, maybe you WILL help me someday." "Was that a threat? ... Selim will never serve as a weakness in my life." "He's the Pride of my life..." Looking back at all these instances, and we still didn't see it coming! Also, I am willing to believe what Kimblee said to Winry in the car was genuine. It make him more interesting. Kimblee whole-heartedly believes and stands by what he does. Which means he also holds admiration and respect for those people who would die for what they believe in. It's just what Kimblee believes is super messed up...
Joey Joseph Jojoson
2021-02-02 03:37:09 +0000 UTCAh Father as in THAT Father
Alex G
2021-02-02 03:04:27 +0000 UTCYep, Winry’s parents were unfortunately going to be killed (for saving Ishvalans) whether it was Scar or not as well. It’s kind of messed up because Scar did the dirty work for the military without knowing
Nick
2021-02-02 02:58:30 +0000 UTCInteresting. Yeah I feel like he would respect exceptionalism since he's sort of rare in a similar way.
Alex G
2021-02-02 02:58:23 +0000 UTCNeat detail, when Selim was talking to Bradley so many episodes ago, he said he wanted to learn alchemy so he could help Father. Practically everything he has said has been hinting at it God I love the foreshadowing
Nick
2021-02-02 02:57:58 +0000 UTCThanks! Just looked up Baccano and it looks really familiar. Looks interesting
Alex G
2021-02-02 02:57:07 +0000 UTCYeah feels genuine to me too. He doesn't really need to butter Winry up like that I don't think
Alex G
2021-02-02 02:56:12 +0000 UTCA detail that is left out of the anime that's in the manga its implied that Kimblee was sent to assassinate the Rockbells. So in his story, he's telling the truth and I do believe his admiration for them is genuine. He seems to respect people with unshakable devotion to their beliefs
malik
2021-02-02 02:47:55 +0000 UTCSeing this specific episode reaction makes me want so bad for your to watch Baccano! ^^' There's a character in it that I would love to have your opinion on. Other than that, amazing reaction, as always!
Simon Varvaressos
2021-02-02 02:41:09 +0000 UTCI definitely always thought the talk in the car ride with Kimble was mostly genuine, he seems to take pride in his work whatever it is so it makes sense he would respect doctors who refused to quit helping people in need
Kollie123
2021-02-02 02:26:29 +0000 UTCLoved your reaction. I've been waiting for this episode since you showed your interest in Selim's wellbeing.
Mauricio Nascimento
2021-02-02 02:25:51 +0000 UTCLOL yeah never saw it coming. But I'm also relieved that my sweet Selim isn't going to have some undeserved tragedy befall him
Alex G
2021-02-02 02:11:12 +0000 UTCHaven't watched the video yet but it's been so funny seeing you scared for selim and wanting to protect him knowing this episode was coming
malikparah
2021-02-02 02:08:52 +0000 UTCThat moment you realize you shouldn't be scared FOR Selim, you should be scare OF Selim.
T-mo
2021-02-02 02:05:10 +0000 UTC
