Episode 234: Jacob Chansley, America’s Shaman
Added 2023-06-11 01:19:39 +0000 UTCWe spoke with the most visible J6er — known colloquially as the “QAnon Shaman”. He was distinct from the rest of the rioters thanks to his horned headdress, painted face, booming voice, extensive tattoos, and spear. Before he became world famous he participated in QAnon events, which made him an occasional feature of this show. On May 25th, Chansley was released after serving time in federal prison and a halfway house for the crime of obstructing an official proceeding. On today’s episode, we’re going to talk about Chansley's big comeback and what was said when he spoke in person at a church in Scottsdale, Arizona — an event which Travis attended. Then we’re going to play clips from our interview with Jacob Chansley. He discussed his childhood, how he acquired his pluralistic religious worldview, his experiences in prison, and his plans for the future.
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References
https://fronterasdesk.org/content/1848352/scottsdale-church-we-did-not-host-qanon-shaman-event
Comments
Sounds like coping with cognitive dissonance
Ross Moore
2023-06-22 22:39:02 +0000 UTCListening to Jacob, I do wonder if he is narcissistic / believes his own bombastic stories 🫤 “You probably would never believe me” is a line that he uses a lot — like Frank Abignale. The way that each of them tell rambling unbelievable stories is similar to my ear.
Tamara Harper
2023-06-21 07:13:43 +0000 UTCI enjoyed this episode a lot, but I'm wondering if you can do an episode (or at least dedicate some time) to "targeted individuals." Jacob mentions this very quickly but I feel like it would illuminate a lot of the paranoia that often runs through conspiratorial circles. Thanks!
Alan W Holt
2023-06-18 12:38:13 +0000 UTCIt's hard not to feel sympathic toward Jacob after this interview, even as his delusions are on full display. Y'all did this right, weren't too hard on him while giving him the chance to explain himself. Poor bugger.
Jay Miller
2023-06-17 16:39:32 +0000 UTCKind of a dogshit interview, tbh. It's just minutes of Chansley rambling on and on about his utterly incoherent worldview uncontested, followed by fairly shallow commentary. You don't have to verbally confront him to more seriously interrogate his beliefs. But what I really want to know is: why did you platform him, especially now that he's trying to launch a media/rebranding campaign?
Harper N/A
2023-06-17 04:57:22 +0000 UTCI did bucko
Ross Moore
2023-06-16 21:13:04 +0000 UTC“I had an unconventional childhood” goes on to describe an extremely conventional childhood (not diminishing the tragedy about his dad). Guy’s so self absorbed and pathetic. Episode made me think about, not for the first time, what our political landscape would be like if it wasn’t for the government lying to us about WMDs in Iraq. Great episode, thanks for the great content.
Samantha Miller
2023-06-16 18:50:29 +0000 UTCY’all really need to get more heavy on rfk. What is going o that you aren’t being every day posting? You do this stupid shaman interview but ignore this real shit? DeSantis and rfk should be your target.
Sarah S
2023-06-16 07:19:00 +0000 UTCBeing the product of generations of inbreeding
Ross Moore
2023-06-15 23:20:33 +0000 UTCThis guy is so goddam dull & repetitive. Couldn’t make it through this ep.
Jessica G
2023-06-15 15:56:54 +0000 UTCYes, I think we're in the same boat. It was "interesting," as the hosts said, in the perspective they've established.
'Mech Bae
2023-06-15 06:33:08 +0000 UTCDude's an ecofascist and even in this interview was edging towards the transgender=transhuman=THE DEATH OF ALL MAN thing that's so popular in right wing conspiracy circles, he definitely sounded like a clear cut asshole to me, but you do you.
Jessica
2023-06-15 06:06:23 +0000 UTCSaw a bit of the controversy ahead of watching this and pretty confused now listening. I got the impression the whole episode was just gonna be his soapbox, but I think the presence of the interview is pretty well justified alongside the character study they were doing on him post-jail already. And as for the interview, I don't know why anyone who's familiar with QAA would think their style would be combative active debunking. Interview clips from events are a regular feature of the show and that's never been part of the strategy
Jackson Hudak
2023-06-15 02:04:52 +0000 UTCWhy does he say costco is related to china? I have never heard this from conspiracy people before and couldn't find anything about this.
zach spencer
2023-06-14 19:28:36 +0000 UTCnot a super unusual backstory these days, I guess - but I found myself thinking about the similarities between his path (911 truth stuff etc) & Andrew Anglin’s. https://web.archive.org/web/20180105101019/https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/12/the-making-of-an-american-nazi/544119
Beth Wooten
2023-06-14 18:48:46 +0000 UTCI'm still hung up on the fact the navy got a patent to a ufo by saying "if we don't do it, China will"... us pat no 10,144,532, if anyone is interested. I verified the appeal brief and declaration from the navy CTO in the file history. Its now expired bc the navy failed to pay the nominal fees. Same with another pais patent 10,135,366, also expired. So I guess the ufo is free to use now?
Joshua Seitz
2023-06-14 18:35:00 +0000 UTCThanks for doing this. I know it’s not for everyone, but I like to know what “the other side” is saying, especially if they hold some influence in groups that have the potential to be a real problem. After this interview, I’m still not sure if this man has severe mental health issues, or has just completely lost himself in the persona he created. Maybe a bit of both? His claims about being a target and what he went through in solitary show a great deal of denial in the plain truth of what spaces like that do to everyone that goes into them. Not to mention the “white guy who wishes he was indigenous but prefers to profit off their fetishized identity instead of treating the culture with actual respect” issue. I could tell this was a tough one to sit through, but thanks for giving us the ability to access this information without having to go to sources that truly support his ideas of say, not being a felon. That whole bit gave me whiplash.
Elle BelAnge
2023-06-14 15:24:18 +0000 UTCThis interview was fascinating. Chansley’s religious syncretism strikes me as comparable in spirit to the esoteric “traditionalism” associated with rather obscure figures like René Guénon and Julius Evola, but with which a number of prominent right-wing intellectuals (including Steve Bannon and Aleksandr Dugin) are associated. The similarity’s in how he seeks to identify what all religions have in common, although his method’s a lot less academic than the likes of Guénon and he doesn’t seem to have come up with the same kind of results (yet). Either way, though, it tracks with Julian’s comment that Chansley seems to think that there are no coincidences, which is usually very important to a conspiracy theorist’s outlook.
Liam Harte
2023-06-14 14:58:11 +0000 UTCYeah, so many parts tangled up. When he said (re AI) that we have two possible futures for humanity that one is peaceful and the other is AI and mass extinction I was like -but we're already in the foothills of the 6th mass extinction, driven by our activity -deforestation driven by animal farming interests among others. That's us.
hhhhhm
2023-06-14 05:33:09 +0000 UTCI like him. I would join his cult
foxy
2023-06-14 04:03:29 +0000 UTCWow this guy is really struggling with having a human brain isn't he
Stephanie Williams
2023-06-13 21:30:00 +0000 UTC"I'm the main character, bro."- Jacob Chansley. A real score for the QAA tripod, definitely gave him enough rope. JC is really, really into what he thinks- a true solopsist.
Kevin Christensen
2023-06-13 18:30:30 +0000 UTCHow do ppl listen to 473 episodes of a podcast and still be confused what the podcast is about. Like, if this podcast has one distinguishing aesthetic characteristic it's how they run clips of these people way longer than anyone else would run a clip just so you can get that real flavor off the bone. How is actually interviewing a person and letting them run their mouth and playing it any different goddamn lol
Bobby Volcano
2023-06-13 18:18:53 +0000 UTCFucking exactly. It’s people who send food back at a restaurant
thoughtbarf
2023-06-13 16:43:04 +0000 UTCWho the fuck cares! The fucking entitlement of some of the patrons, you behave like their freakin bosses. I thought that Chansley was a boring and not very smart lad, but that's about it, I wont get mad lol
Juan
2023-06-13 16:22:53 +0000 UTCWould’ve been nice if this had some focus and direction. This is indistinguishable from any other “interview” with him
Gabe
2023-06-13 16:13:38 +0000 UTCMy least favorite ep but only because I feel so bad for all the people who have fallen into this level of delusion. I don’t have a lot of hope that anyone this broken can ever find their way back to reality. Hopefully next ep will be a pallet cleanser
Greg C
2023-06-13 14:26:45 +0000 UTC100% I can’t imagine being so self-serious about my media diet. It’s like half the commenters initially subscribed because they needed help discerning if Q was real.
thoughtbarf
2023-06-13 14:18:16 +0000 UTClol “platforming” Can’t believe you guys didn’t push back on his claims he was receiving downloads from god and the angels. Obviously that would have been productive and preserved your journalistic integrity. Seriously, people didn’t find this insightful? The way the prison system seemed to entrench and assist his indoctrination? The fact that he’s speaking at a church and his syncretized spirituality seems to resonate (or is at least tolerated) by an evangelical crowd? The way he rationalizes his prison sentence as sort of a “over the target” affirmation? How he has some sort of charisma that seems to resonate with the attendees? The conversation is framed around an interview with a man who is unwell, and is an empathetic look at how he fell, and continues to fall, down the rabbit hole. How on earth is that “platforming”? What boomer stumbles across QAA, hears the framing of the conversation, and becomes radicalized by his ramblings. Edited: I came back to add that I gave it a second listen and I hadn’t caught his revelation about the Catholic luciferian telescope on the Arizona mountain. Shit, I’ve really got something thinking to do now. The puzzle pieces are coming together…
thoughtbarf
2023-06-13 14:11:41 +0000 UTCif you are upset by this episode then you don't understand how to consume media and are probably being pilled by listening to other episodes. now you heard from the horses mouth and you are uncomfortable because maybe he isn't that bad of a dude. well he is, he just doesn't exist and didn't come from a vacuum. he's a human, just one who believes shitty things and made shitty choices. if you are threatened by learning about others you are just as much of a problem as Qshaman. reassess your ability to learn or be doomed to become whatever the lefts Q eventually is.
piffinpurp
2023-06-13 14:09:10 +0000 UTCi think some people are mad cause Chansley doesn't sound like as much of a clear cut asshole as they'd hope. it's threatening to realize how even q-anon fuckwits can come from relatable places. Chansley is caught up in a swirl of confused brain rot, iconoclasm, disenfranchisement, childhood trauma, and woke-gone-wrong. And that's what got him where he is. Not some hatred of democrats or "the left." It would be easier if he was some oathkeeper kill the libs type. But he's not. and that's hard for people to come to terms with.
james
2023-06-13 13:57:35 +0000 UTCGood ep 👍
burro
2023-06-13 13:44:34 +0000 UTCyeah, it would have taken just one more podcast telling Q anon shaman that q anon is dumb and he would have repented.
james
2023-06-13 12:29:28 +0000 UTCso are you unsure of how to feel about the q-anon shaman then?
james
2023-06-13 12:28:23 +0000 UTCthis is too funny. marks lmao
james
2023-06-13 12:23:34 +0000 UTCperfection: I didn't listen, but my preconceived notion about the topic was reinforced by the salty comments I saw.
james
2023-06-13 12:22:24 +0000 UTCIt's like people have never listened to this podcast before.
Peter K
2023-06-13 11:56:38 +0000 UTCI was thinking the same thing, but on the other hand, why would prison have changed anything? A guy who’s already pretty detached from reality gets psychologically tortured in solitary for a bit, and then he has access to more conspiracy literature. You’re tellin me he wasn’t reformed? Shocking!
No Relation to Henry
2023-06-13 11:06:55 +0000 UTCI'll disagree with the complaints about the interview in this sense -- no one listening to this podcast is actually going to seriously entertain the Q Shaman's beliefs. That wasn't the point. I see it as more of an anthropological thing. We got a pretty good idea of what Chansley thinks, how he frames things, how he got that way (or at least how he tells his own story). I agree that for now, he seems like a pretty sincere guy, but that could change if he gets more involved in politics. Either way, this podcast has always been about diagnosing the disease and Chansley is patient zero. Every good diagnosis starts with observation. Lastly, contrary to what a lot of people in the US think, I don't think that the "confrontational interview" is at all a useful exercise. It usually devolves into both sides trying to play to an audience rather than an authentic debate. That doesn't mean you have to kiss up to the other person, but it does mean you let them talk and if what they're saying is bullshit, their words will be the best illustration of that. Case in point, I came away from this worried about Chansley's methods for interacting with reality and concerned there may be more people out there than we think who are on this "intuition is everything. downloading truth from the cosmos" sort of trip.
Last Years Man
2023-06-13 09:42:25 +0000 UTCApropos of nothing, the primary heroes of the x-files… were also federal agents. I am not fully sure where I meant to go from that starting point, but I am throwing it out there for someone smarter and less sleep deprived to develop.
Phil
2023-06-13 07:29:11 +0000 UTCGreat work guys, BUT… you make Arizona sound like it’s hell on earth. As we were going through the Maga movement, the mainstreaming of conspiracy theories such as QAnon, and the pandemic, Arizona elected Joe Biden, 2 Democrats to the US Senate, and a Democrat for Governor and Secretary of State. There’s definitely a lot of folks here that don’t live in reality. But their noise only energizes the majority of Arizonans to counter them at the ballot box. You can’t say the same for Florida. Those folks are crazy! 😉
Jack Hord
2023-06-13 06:38:59 +0000 UTCWhat, you don't think "F these pissants" is good commentary? 😂 ((😉 jk))
C’mon
2023-06-13 05:33:02 +0000 UTCI understand why some people have a problem with the way the interview was conducted. At the same time for me it was a legitimate approach as a interview technique to let the person speak while not giving too much push back in the style of Oral History as a scientific method. I'm doing qualitative interviews for my research right now, and the things I had to listen to. P.s.: To the other commenters, please less personal attacks in the comment section ❤️
Tom
2023-06-13 05:24:20 +0000 UTCI bypassed this episode, but was curious about the comments. I didn't want to waste my time (No offense, I'll enjoy the next episode I'm sure). Chansley isn't even as interesting a side show as a giant ball of yarn off Hwy 66. I could guess what ear-nonesense he would be and the comments confirm it.
C’mon
2023-06-13 04:52:50 +0000 UTCAre y’all punishing us?
Sarah Stinard-Kiel
2023-06-13 03:23:23 +0000 UTCI don’t think it even has to be a political thing. He broke the law. He’s boring. He’s privileged. There is nothing special about him. He is a grifter who made the hosts look like marks (not including Travis because he clearly was neutered in editing by whatever sympathetic person was blowing Chudsley). Pretty pathetic episode honestly. If you wanted to get this dope money, just PayPal it to him directly instead of giving him a platform with zero pushback.
Adam 2
2023-06-13 01:27:14 +0000 UTCThey have massive audiences regardless if you ignore them or not. And its not change their minds, its change their viewers minds, even just one of them and its worth it.
Ross Moore
2023-06-13 00:52:14 +0000 UTCTo the parasocial fans. I should not be surprised that you are quick to call others libs for disagreeing with you and the boys. Most people commenting don't seem mad about "platforming" Chansely. We think the boys did a lousy job framing the interview. Based on this interview and past episodes, I believe they have been unnecessarily sympathetic toward Chansely. If we are libs for disagreeing with you and the boys, so be it. Liberals probably hold better opinions than whatever b.s views you people have.
Rykus
2023-06-13 00:51:00 +0000 UTCThis "platform" is an audience of 99% of people who think he's a freak. You guys need to listen to more conservative media so you aren't triggered so easily
Ross Moore
2023-06-13 00:28:03 +0000 UTCRobert Evans (of Behind the Bastards and a former guest of this podcast) on Episode 4 of It Could Happen Here: “There is absolutely a wrong way to talk to the other side of the aisle. We do not need to talk to Alex Jones or Milo Yiannopoulos or Richard Spencer or Candace Owens. Ben Shapiro does not need to be debated about his racist claim that 800 million Muslims are dangerous radicals. None of these people deserved to be platformed or debated. They need to be ignored.”
Jordan
2023-06-13 00:12:52 +0000 UTCI have a 5,000 word rebuttal of why you should have never interviewed Jacob. Oh, wait, I got nuthin'. It was a great episode. Piss on these stupid pissants.
John Brandkamp
2023-06-12 23:54:33 +0000 UTCThe episode was so boring lol, awkward cuts of a monolog
Stargate SG Won
2023-06-12 23:21:22 +0000 UTCI think many commenters here should think on the words of Martin Luther King Jr. “Hate for hate only intensifies the existence of hate and evil in the universe. The strong person is the person who can cut off the chain of hate, the chain of evil and inject within the very structure of the universe that strong and powerful element of love.”
St. Leibowitz
2023-06-12 23:14:44 +0000 UTCsometimes it's easy to think "our side is smart and the other side is dumb." But then you see comment sections like this and are reminded...actually lots of people on "our side" are dumb as hell too. I mean this is hilarious. These people are legit mad that you "platformed" him, or that you didn't ask him ..."tough questions"....it's the MF QANON SHAMAN...is there some "tough question" that to you, in June 2023, is still unanswered about Qanon shaman? "People on the right" always complain about media not spoon feeding them the perfect diet of info they think they should get. But a lot of (presumably) liberals are saying the same thing here. Just hilarious. It's clear that a lot of listeners here are looking for that exact same spoonfed diet of reinforcement. And man they were cranky when they didn't get it. I really appreciated this episode. You delivered exactly what you intended to, an episode about one guy's path from introspection, trauma, and low-key mental illness to Qanon rabbithole.
james
2023-06-12 21:10:21 +0000 UTCGreat episode!!
Helga
2023-06-12 20:01:14 +0000 UTCYeeeeah, I'm gonna catch y'all on the next one.
Shaxbert
2023-06-12 18:55:50 +0000 UTCYeah, Alex Jones is at least entertaining AF.
lady8jane
2023-06-12 18:40:30 +0000 UTCWhat is q anon shamans national name recognition polling?
Stargate SG Won
2023-06-12 18:37:54 +0000 UTCThese were not the Jake stories that I signed up for. I can see why you guys interviewed him, but did he even say anything that he hasn't said in 20 other interviews? It's the exact same shit he was saying before prison, but now there's some spice to it since there were actual consequences. I'm not sure if I'm just too dumb to see the point, or if there really even was one.
KEGGY
2023-06-12 18:31:06 +0000 UTCYou can't "platform" someone who's more famous than you lmao. Nobody is going to find out about the Q shaman for the very first time from QAA
catloaf
2023-06-12 18:24:32 +0000 UTCAgreed. I've got no problem with having him on, I think it's great. But I think more interesting questions could have led to a much better episode.
Joelio
2023-06-12 18:12:09 +0000 UTCI found his comments on Alex Jones funny. insulting him for being repetitive and then being so damn boring and having so little behind his words, repeating meaningless phrases and learning absolutely nothing from his experience. Guy is a dud. I don't feel much about the interview, generally just quite boring. I do wish they had included more of Travis' voice. I don't feel there is much to learn from letting Chansley riff. We could get that from listening to any of his public appearances. The episode just felt like he guest hosted an extremely boring EP.
Joelio
2023-06-12 17:53:39 +0000 UTCNo they need to own him with epic facts and logic ben shapiro style then he will melt and QAnon will be over bro
Thomas
2023-06-12 17:01:28 +0000 UTCI kinda feel like we're seeing a political split here - the group complaining seems like they're adherents to the "deplatform all the fash and it'll go away" school of thought, and they're applying a REALLY loose and sloppy definition of "platform" here. It seems weird that they'd be supporting QAA in the first place given how much time QAA has - since day 1 - spent presenting and discussing radicalized viewpoints, to include clips of the radicals. It also feels really, REALLY paternalistic, but that tends to be par for the course with this form of slacktivist. Some of the "journalistic ethics" objections are just straight-up low-effort "gotcha" nonsense, like all the invocations of 60Min. 60Min interviewing MTG was bad b/c of who 60Min is and who their audience is, but we're not seeing any consideration of that here; it's instead one-size-fits-all "ethics in conspiracy journalism" talk.
Nona
2023-06-12 16:50:44 +0000 UTCI’m sorry but regardless of the perceived seriousness of the subject matter of the podcast, the podcast is ultimately just entertainment, them “platforming” this guy isn’t gonna make a lick of difference in the world
Thomas
2023-06-12 16:37:16 +0000 UTCProbably because he's a delusional lunatic who is habitually using drugs that alter his perception of reality and acting dangerous to others.
Pickleball Super Fan
2023-06-12 16:28:11 +0000 UTCAnyone who thinks this matters at all has TERMINAL INTERNET BRAIN
Thomas
2023-06-12 16:26:41 +0000 UTCPart of being a good journalist is sometimes talking to people you don't like and letting them show their own ass. I don't understand how ya'll don't get this. Like- this was a good episode.
JN
2023-06-12 16:25:25 +0000 UTCHappy for u or sorry that happened
Thomas
2023-06-12 16:09:55 +0000 UTCguys, this episode made me sad.
SM21
2023-06-12 14:59:11 +0000 UTCIm curious to know what your definition of “editorially independent” is, because I cant really see how its in question here. Whether or not you like what they publish, they’re still fully in charge of what content they decide to put out.
Steve
2023-06-12 14:45:33 +0000 UTCAnother sincere question - what’s the deal with the people complaining about journalistic integrity? What does that even … mean in this context? Did the hosts not .. do their ethical part in this case? Really trying to understand the backlash here
Cordelia Reagan
2023-06-12 13:48:27 +0000 UTCHomeboy is pilled to the gills. Even after 18 months in jail he’s still steadfast with this Q shit. Pobrecito.
DJ Grouch
2023-06-12 11:56:59 +0000 UTCI'm editing this to reduce the vitriol. But this was still a bad choice, and I will be unsubscribing from Patreon and the podcast until it's corrected.
Brian
2023-06-12 11:00:25 +0000 UTCHe’s definitely autistic. I say that as an autist myself. There are a lot of diagnosed and undiagnosed neurodivergent people who end up in conspiratorial/cult-like dynamics and I don’t think it gets discussed enough when addressing conspiracies/Conspirituality. It plays a huge role in needing to find meaning/community. It also plays a huge role in feeling like an alien/ascended spiritual person. Additionally, a lot of us on the spectrum regularly have transcendental/spiritual experiences on the regular.
Kate Faust
2023-06-12 10:55:44 +0000 UTCThis wasn’t it, I’m sorry.
Rachel
2023-06-12 10:25:48 +0000 UTCChansley seems to have a core of decency and has an approachable communication style, but I am always leery of anybody who can talk that much and that long. And that is before you get to the storming and the Qing. I can't really blame him for monetizing the Shaman though; that's capitalism and the attention economy.
coach mac
2023-06-12 07:44:56 +0000 UTCThe spirit of old QAA would’ve been to be impartial and journalistic. Travis was not shown pushing back during the interview. That is because whoever edits the show decided to make the interview favorable to this privileged chud idiot. That is not how the show used to be. Real pathetic move. In simple parlance carny talk, QAA used to eviscerate conmen grifters — like this idiot — but the way the episode was edited made the hosts look like gullible marks who got worked by a worker.
Adam 2
2023-06-12 06:28:35 +0000 UTCCare to give an example of what you're talking about? Because I've listened to the pod's entire run and can't think of anything like what you're wishing Travis had done as ever having happened in the past.
Nona
2023-06-12 05:22:24 +0000 UTCI don't know, but she'd say it in a very posh yet endearing accent.
Okie From Muskogee
2023-06-12 04:07:21 +0000 UTCIf this was 2 years ago, Travis would’ve eviscerated him in the interview.
Adam 2
2023-06-12 04:02:32 +0000 UTCI love how the comments here are all libs vs cultstuds. What would our national baby say?
Keith Crosley
2023-06-12 03:57:51 +0000 UTCDidn't sound anything like a puff piece to me, but you're entitled to your opinion.
Peter K
2023-06-12 03:48:00 +0000 UTCI’m happy they’re making money though! The problem is that they’ve been making almost 6 figures a month for at least 2 years now and never once in that time did they sell out and do a pathetic puff piece on some shitbird before.
Adam 2
2023-06-12 03:43:20 +0000 UTCTravis is truly the heart of the show. It doesn’t work without him, and the less he’s featured, the less the show feels like it used to.
Adam 2
2023-06-12 02:52:41 +0000 UTCIf they interviewed Jake while he was blowing up a toilet for 30 minutes after a night of bad food choices, it would not only be 500% more entertaining and interesting, but there’d be a lot less bullshit than what the soft little bitch Chansley was given a platform to spew.
Adam 2
2023-06-12 02:42:02 +0000 UTCIf you're so mad that they are making money, end your subscription.
Peter K
2023-06-12 02:39:03 +0000 UTCIf having a “niche podcast” means I make almost 6 figures a month, I’d like one niche podcast ASAP.
Adam 2
2023-06-12 02:36:03 +0000 UTCDidn’t get much from this one. Expected a grand slam. No real commentary or vibes given. Just a long rant by a very lost person.
Travis Kline
2023-06-12 02:02:22 +0000 UTCI don’t blame Travis at all and honestly I think his voice has been sorely lacking lately. And that’s all I’m going to say about that.
Miss Behavior
2023-06-12 01:58:42 +0000 UTCDidn’t get any insight from this guy massaging his own ego. Maybe you edited out more confrontational portions or wanted to make sure he didn’t storm off, but people like this need some hard talk sent their way. Not annoying fact checking but questioning of their worldview as a whole. I used to have a slight bit of sympathy for him as just misguided but now he can just fuck all the way off.
Timothy Shippey
2023-06-12 01:42:18 +0000 UTCDayum. This episode was most excellent.
John Brandkamp
2023-06-12 01:30:44 +0000 UTCLOL at comparing MTG's platforming on fucking 60 Minutes to this niche podcast.
Peter K
2023-06-12 01:30:16 +0000 UTCI know ... it's just like ... the whole casual racism and cultural appropriation thing is so tiring.
lady8jane
2023-06-12 01:27:44 +0000 UTCA guy who believes in pedophile cabals doesn't know the nuances of shamanism? I am shocked
Ross Moore
2023-06-12 01:26:10 +0000 UTCYeah, why on earth would the people who make a podcast be interested in the opinions of the people who pay for the podcast?
Kate
2023-06-12 01:20:03 +0000 UTCBye, Felicia.
Keith Crosley
2023-06-12 01:07:01 +0000 UTCAs someone who has a background in archaeology and anthropology, can I just say that it's so annoying to me how he talks about Shamanism? (The same goes for a lot of Americans tbh). Shamanism is a practice of Siberian/Tungusic peoples and he mixes it with Heyoka (from the Lakota and Dakota peoples) and who knows what else. It just so infuriating and disrespectful.
lady8jane
2023-06-12 01:06:11 +0000 UTCI don't understand having a meltdown is going to change anyone's mind
Ross Moore
2023-06-12 01:05:50 +0000 UTCThat I would’ve doubled my subscription for. The other two are funny and have some fascinating thoughts, but they aren’t journalists.
Adam 2
2023-06-12 01:03:05 +0000 UTCUnlike Chansley, QAA actually criticized McConaughey.
Adam 2
2023-06-12 01:02:00 +0000 UTC$$$ > Journalistic Integrity
Adam 2
2023-06-12 01:00:22 +0000 UTCSo we can hear their ideas and try to change their minds with debate. Or we can go straight to violence, idc either way
Ross Moore
2023-06-12 01:00:00 +0000 UTCI too would have loved to see them beat him with baseball bats.
Ross Moore
2023-06-12 00:58:48 +0000 UTCAt this point why people have become radicalized is about as new and interesting an idea as a superhero movie in Hollywood. Giving a platform to some egotistical boring ass baby bitch who broke the law isn’t interesting. He’s just gonna use it to make money. The two parties clearly had a mutual exchange of money for services. I just don’t think it’s worthy of an entire podcast episode dedicated to it. Unless the guys are angling for a job at the NYT or CNN. Then I get it.
Adam 2
2023-06-12 00:57:23 +0000 UTCIn order to change minds you have to listen to what the right says then you have to debate them why their opinions are so dog shit.
Ross Moore
2023-06-12 00:54:30 +0000 UTCThat's fair, but they definitely did not give him a half-hour to use as he pleased. His speech was subject to their editorial review, and they framed and critiqued it. I must assume there was a lot more than the half-hour that we heard, and not all of it was back-and-forth with Travis. And I'm really confused by complaining about him saying Costco is affiliated with pedophilia or that there's a transhumanist agenda. These are well-known beats in conspiracy circles. We've heard them before on this podcast, and in more understandable, coherent forms. Is it just the idea that we should never, ever publish anything untrue unless someone we deem morally pure is the one saying it? That's... a bit confusing. Again, he didn't have free reign to frame his ideas; the hosts retained editorial control and inserted editorial commentary.
Nona
2023-06-12 00:53:56 +0000 UTCGuys, I’m a baby and I need you to spoon feed to me what I should think about this. Thanks.
Beej
2023-06-12 00:53:22 +0000 UTCThis podcast is already too big to fail. But I am personally cancelling my subscription to QAA Premium. I am happy the guys have made it, but I’m choosing to no longer contribute if this is the new direction of the show. The hosts used to be real and savage and have journalistic integrity. But this episode was the exact opposite. But I guess it’s time to sell out when you’re making close to 6 figures a month on Patreon contributions alone. Also, I don’t blame Travis. It’s possible he ripped this Chansley bitch a new one and it was edited out. Also, it’s a bad sign when Alex Jones gave more pushback to Kanye West than QAA gave to Hagar the Horrible.
Adam 2
2023-06-12 00:52:52 +0000 UTCI get that and it's hard to fight the gish-gallop, but THEY decided to air the parts where he says Costco is affiliated with pedophilia, that elites are pushing transhumanism on us etc. The fact that the guy isn't a good and principled debater or good faith actor seems like more reason to not give him half an hour to use as he pleased on their platform.
Justin S.
2023-06-12 00:38:13 +0000 UTCMy assumption WRT cutting the back-and-forth parts is that they probably weren't good podcasting. Chansely isn't someone who's been argued into his positions, and is not going to be argued out of them. Additionally, he's charismatic and confident; cutting out back-and-forth may have been preferable to trying to spend twice or thrice as long going point-by-point debunking the cleverly-phrased nonsense he may have argue with convincing confidence. Finally, just because you CAN argue with someone like this doesn't mean you should; often arguing with debate-bros gives them more credibility than letting them ramble b/c they have well-rehearsed responses to attacks on their position even if they don't have convincing foundational arguments.
Nona
2023-06-12 00:33:45 +0000 UTCWith all due respect, hearing someone describe how they arrived at their current radicalized state isn't simply "how these people stitch together their justification for their fascist worldview". It gives insight into how radicalization occurs, which can give insight into how to prevent it, or means by which those who are radicalized can be de-radicalized - which many can. Your choice of language suggests that you don't think that's possible, and you'd rather write off anyone and everyone who has succumbed to conspiratorial thinking or political indoctrination. That's... troubling, because we're talking about A LOT of people. Mind you, YOU are not responsible for doing this or caring about this, but it would be helpful if you didn't undercut those of us who are out of a sense of, yes, *moralistic* outrage. Chansely's speech was controlled and framed. He did not have unfettered access to a new audience, and I'm frankly a bit appalled that you think so little of your fellow listeners that you assume that we're so gullible and malleable that a controlled interview is going to sway us.
Nona
2023-06-12 00:26:02 +0000 UTCProbably the fact that they didn't find some clips online, THEY interviewed him and gave little to no pushback on his unhinged ramblings about pedophiles, or if they did they cut it out for some reason...
Justin S.
2023-06-12 00:25:09 +0000 UTCI’m having a really hard time understanding why they would trust Chansley to offer an honest account of his own beliefs and radicalization. He’s clearly looking to gain attention and relevance, and he expresses no contrition or even introspection about his role in a violent mob trying to overturn an election (quite the opposite, actually). If they’re not going to challenge his account of his own beliefs, and they’re not going to do any outside corroborating, then this interview is pointless to everyone but Chansley, who will get the satisfaction of getting to ramble about himself. There’s also the hypocrisy on display of how the hosts have reacted to other interviews of Q figures that allow these people to whitewash their beliefs. Obviously someone like MTG is a sitting member of Congress, so the stakes are a lot higher, but they were furious that people are allowing her to retcon her Q history. So it makes me mad that they did something so similar with Chansley.
Kate
2023-06-12 00:24:53 +0000 UTCBad news...
Justin S.
2023-06-12 00:23:03 +0000 UTCFor a second I thought I was listening to an Infowars caller on Knowledge Fight, except Dan and Jordan push back on the stuff that is said... This was the unhinged ramblings of a deeply troubled man. I am as anti-carceral state as they come and am frustrated by this guy basically being the face of J6 rather than folks like Stewart Rhodes, but this dude was part of the initial mob that broke into the Senate chambers. This dude is no different whatsoever from the Ashli Babbitts or anyone else storming into the building, so it is disappointing that this was basically an unadulterated boosting of this guy's screed. It might be *slightly* different if this was locked behind the pay wall, but this was not a good look. I also don't get the part from Julian about cutting out back and forths between him and Travis and what seemed like hand-waiving away of some of the problematic things being said. For fucks sake, this dude regurgitated the "spirals = pedophilia" shtick in this episode... I don't get the choices made here.
Justin S.
2023-06-12 00:22:33 +0000 UTCWho cares about the ethics of platforming him. The main problem is he is boring!
Ba'alWhale34
2023-06-12 00:15:08 +0000 UTCRespectfully, isn’t that what this show has always been about? Like, they’ve gone to rallies, done interviews under the guise of being on the side of Q supporters, etc. And that’s all in an effort to, for lack of a better metaphor, peek behind the mental/sociological curtain. Otherwise, what else is this is show? As someone else wrote, there has to be more than just pointing and laughing. And since so many of these asshats walk similar paths to get to this point, is there no value in studying the signs again and again so maybe, the next time, we can spot them earlier?
DM_DogDad
2023-06-12 00:12:04 +0000 UTCYep. If you have a problem with hearing from Chansley in his own words, Julian and the rest of the Guuskult are laughing at you. He clearly describes what happened to a whole swath of our Boomers — proto-YouTube-indoctrination (minus the proto, this is what happened to your pilled family members). Hooray!
Keith Crosley
2023-06-12 00:10:29 +0000 UTCcan't speak for other folks but i don't care how these people stitch together their justification for their fascist worldview. not only is always incoherent, they don't even stick to it or stick up for it. they will always act in bad faith because trolling is built into to their entire outlook. their words mean nothing and if you pretend to take them seriously they will literally laugh at you because they think it's "triggering" it is platforming someone to give them a interview. it is literally giving them access to an audience they otherwise would not have had. and all they'll do is flood the zone with shit. It isn't moralistic to say you don't want to hear from some dipshit who's part of a fascist movement doing actual harm to people because of imaginary conspiracies cooked up to justify their sense of grievance there is literally nothing to be learned from their own words except maybe the next place they're going to show up so you can counter protest.
Robert Daniel Pickard
2023-06-12 00:07:28 +0000 UTCI'd tend to agree that what we may be seeing here is a divide b/tw the people who are here as part of their efforts to keep abreast with/learn about radicalism, and those who are hear to laugh at radicals. I'm all for laughing at them, but that's not the main reason why I'm listening to this particular podcast. I'd also agree that "platforming" seems like a rather ambitious stretch. They maintained control of his voice throughout and framed it with their own commentary.
Nona
2023-06-11 23:57:31 +0000 UTCwhat damage?
cmbalaclava
2023-06-11 23:51:38 +0000 UTCit's lib central over here
cmbalaclava
2023-06-11 23:50:58 +0000 UTCjesus christ these comments.... There's absolutely no point of pushing back or asking hard questions when it comes to guys like this. The best thing to do is to let them cook. You guys are acting like they interviewed Hitler or something, this dude isn't hurting anyone but himself
cmbalaclava
2023-06-11 23:49:50 +0000 UTCIt seems to me that a lot of people on here are getting a little high on their own moralistic supply. This is a very small community of listeners who, I thought, were interested in diving into the nuance of why people get hooked on these insane conspiracies. This interview was a very very close look at that. I found it fascinating (and sad) that time in prison only deepened this dudes commitment to quackery. That, like many folks in this space, his attachment to spirituality (however hair-brained) is likely connected to some lostness that reaches back to a fucked up upbringing. To say that this person is being "platformed" is a Phelpsian reach. We all know what the deal is here. We're not on the brink of taking the red pill (I hope). This was a chance to hear from the source how a bizarre, dangerous worldview gets quilted together.
DM_DogDad
2023-06-11 23:44:00 +0000 UTCHey guys why are you platforming the fash tho
Rinsuu
2023-06-11 22:53:17 +0000 UTCI rarely stop listening to QAA episodes halfway through, but I gotta say I agree with everyone who is criticizing the "interview" which both bored me to tears with his word salad, and offered an unnecessary platform for a seditious whack-job. In this context I don't really care that he was among the less violent group on Jan 6.
steaknap
2023-06-11 22:29:39 +0000 UTCi would have loved to hear the questions! but it was edited into something a little odd. that said, i do appreciate their stance that people like Ali Alexander and John Eastman and even TFG are more deserving of scorn
Adam Swinson
2023-06-11 22:14:32 +0000 UTCExtremely weak episode, and not because I mind hearing the (sometimes sympathetic) backstories of these folks. But letting him ramble with almost zero pushback? Nope.
Douglas
2023-06-11 21:48:55 +0000 UTCI admire the guys for taking a risk with this interview, but there weren’t any tough questions being asked here. If you’re gonna platform these guys, you better have a good reason for doing so and unfortunately I do not think this episode was very informative.
Jenna
2023-06-11 21:39:17 +0000 UTCSincerely trying to understand the ire in the comments, I’m listening and I’m not hearing sympathy for Chansley? The dude is reprehensible of course and I’m hearing nuanced criticism from the hosts about him and I think it’s well done. I feel like this interview is really similar to the way the normal programming works - clips of deeply unwell conspiracists and then thoughtful and funny disparaging of them. If anything I’m hearing pity rather than sympathy. Am I missing something?
Cordelia Reagan
2023-06-11 21:32:24 +0000 UTCI find myself wondering whether I listened to the same interview as most of the commenters here. I didn't find this to be particularly flattering to him or his positions, and it appeared to achieve its goals WRT hearing his path to self-radicalization. The point wasn't to denounce him to his face - that's not an interview and it's certainly not informative. It's only even "interesting" insofar as it can give a heady rush of righteousness, but it wouldn't change any minds nor give anyone listening any information at all. It'd be purely performative "journalism".
Nona
2023-06-11 21:14:28 +0000 UTCHis identity as a “shaman” is worse than simply a cynical trope used to give his hateful views some religious/moral/innate legitimacy; in his appropriating aspects of native culture (and in doing so in really galling, offensive ways) he’s demanding that the very groups he claims are “cabal” recognize him for spiritual bonafides. There’s nothing spiritual about anything he is doing or believes, it’s all cruelty and subversion; a very white cis man who can’t tolerate any narrative that doesn’t feature his insecure and nihilistic lack of self awareness as playing a central role. It’s an infuriating appropriation.
Kal
2023-06-11 21:01:31 +0000 UTCSo good!
Kal
2023-06-11 20:33:53 +0000 UTCThis is a big ooooof. And not in a strangely entertaining way.
Lisa McColgan
2023-06-11 19:30:10 +0000 UTCEchoing everyone here who is saying that you guys should take a hard look in the mirror for this one. It's very obvious that this was edited and presented in such a way to make him look at sympathetic as possible. I tried very hard to find something of value here and couldn't. I genuinely cannot believe how much airtime you gave him, unchallenged, and I know you guys would be furious if anyone else did this. Chansley is a grifter, VERY clearly, and you guys were marks for him because you like him and he'll talk to you. Love the show normally and hope you'll do better in the future but if there's ever anything like this again, I'm out.
Jeffrey Curran
2023-06-11 19:21:23 +0000 UTCI love the pod but you guys have consistently been way too sympathetic to this fucking clown. This ain’t it.
Miss Behavior
2023-06-11 18:27:52 +0000 UTCHey much love from a dedicated fan - you are spot on so much of the time - but as a critical friend this is a good lesson in humility - you can’t dis 60 minutes for MTG and CNN for Ron Watkins interviews and then do the same gd thing. Not so easy being a journalist, is it? Should try working a day for an NGO on the ground next….
Tivans
2023-06-11 18:15:15 +0000 UTCJesus. This guy is 300% going to get elected to an office. He's got that McConaughey pontificate ability to talk about nothing but use big words that he just throws away that add up to nothing but seem profound if you zoom out wide enough. We're all fucked.
Cody
2023-06-11 17:49:21 +0000 UTCInteresting episode. This guy might become a solid politician- the weird confusion and contradictions of his position, combined with the relative polish and thought that goes into his presentation, shows deeply Q has poisoned our political discourse (and how little legitimacy our political system has.) This guy is more dangerous than most. Also, why would he be required to do drug rehab? The BOP is so stupid…
Isaac Suárez
2023-06-11 17:33:56 +0000 UTCThis guy was part of a murderous mob that tried to disenfranchise me and millions of others. He was motivated by an ideology that calls for people like me to, at minimum, be oppressed by the state, and potentially to be put to death. All of which is to say, I hope I don’t listen to this and hear a softball interview about the silly man in the funny fucking hat.
Kate
2023-06-11 17:29:34 +0000 UTCI don't this this guy went on a spiritual journey so much as he followed the flow of whatever came up on his suggested YouTube videos and Joe Rogan podcasts. His timeline tracks with what was trending and similar to other "hippie" alt-left types under 50. You should have sent out a conspiracy bingo card with this episode.
Kate
2023-06-11 16:40:57 +0000 UTCNope.
Billiam
2023-06-11 15:07:15 +0000 UTCAlso, how insulting that he's appropriating Native American culture after going to prison for a man who reinstated the DAPL and would revoke sovereignty and dissolve every tribal government in the country if he could.
Okie From Muskogee
2023-06-11 15:00:16 +0000 UTCTravis should have done this interview one on one.
Jack Moase
2023-06-11 14:32:19 +0000 UTCI hope the boys read these comments. Julian criticized the Channel 5 guy for his weak style of interviews, but this interview was just as bad. They should have just let Travis interview this idiot. It is disturbing how Julian and Jack talk about and downplay the damage this "shaman" has caused.
Rykus
2023-06-11 14:26:59 +0000 UTCAntifa is fighting the Taliban, yeah that makes sense…
Kal
2023-06-11 14:17:13 +0000 UTCAll these Qanon influencers just cannot wait to talk about themselves and how special and unique they are. I guarantee the only thing he actually did in prison was rehearse this speech.
Okie From Muskogee
2023-06-11 14:10:55 +0000 UTCIs it not loading for anyone else?
Jack Einstein
2023-06-11 13:54:17 +0000 UTCIt’s funny hearing this imbecile quote Einstein. Listening to him for 8 minutes felt like an hour, so i guess he has a grasp of relativity.
Michael Vader
2023-06-11 12:12:11 +0000 UTCI don't think this is it, guys. Not trying to be moralistic or anything and I generally agree with your assessment that the Shaman is not the mastermind the media makes him out to be. It still seems like a serious lapse in judgement from you to do such a softball interview with him when he's undeniably a racist, antisemitic shitbag.
Lindymizer
2023-06-11 11:39:08 +0000 UTCYou did what.
Interested Third Party
2023-06-11 11:22:42 +0000 UTCNo judgement on you guys doing the interview but I have no interest in listening to him speak.
Jacob King
2023-06-11 11:20:50 +0000 UTCReally loved this episode! It’s really interesting to hear directly from this people specially if you interviewe in a non confrontational way. 👌
Luca Di Salvo
2023-06-11 10:30:49 +0000 UTCEw no thanks
Tom Vaughan
2023-06-11 09:18:19 +0000 UTCI don’t think there’s any moral issue with interviewing Jacob but this felt a bit like a waste of half an episode of my fav podcast
leem
2023-06-11 09:07:53 +0000 UTCYou guys don’t need my Patreon anymore. I appreciate Manclan and so much of what you’ve done but this one makes it easier for me to say yeah, here’s a place for me to trim my budget.
Daniel Reed Miller
2023-06-11 08:29:09 +0000 UTCI used to feel that QAA would always be both entertainingly hilarious and also cut through the bullshit. After this episode I at least still think the show is funny, but “editorially independent” sure is open to interpretation. Lost some respect for the show after this one. Feels like QAA is getting soft AF after how badly they massaged this guy’s taint.
Adam 2
2023-06-11 07:43:40 +0000 UTCHonestly he's just really silly and terminally repetitive.
Geraldine Kawabe
2023-06-11 05:41:37 +0000 UTCI also had a tumultuous childhood and am also a white millennial. But since I didn’t break the law or dress like a dipshit buffoon, I guess QAA won’t interview me. But at least I’m actually funny and entertaining, so I’d love for them to similarly kiss my ass in an interview.
Adam 2
2023-06-11 05:25:46 +0000 UTCIndigenous actor/artist Michael Horse (Twin Peaks) made an excellent piece targeting this QAnonsense. https://gatheringtribes.com/products/thats-for-the-stupid-buffalo-hat-t-shirt
Amy King
2023-06-11 05:24:12 +0000 UTCA little surprised he had a similar childhood to my own. Although maybe not very surprised:D
Albert Koyra
2023-06-11 05:19:15 +0000 UTCCompletely agree. I skipped through most of the interview. To me, it just added nothing. I left the episode feeling the exact same way about this guy as I did going in. He's just another guy desperately trying to be a special boy. We knew this already.
Tito
2023-06-11 04:54:10 +0000 UTCThat’s another thing that’s galling. He just isn’t interesting or talented. Not particularly funny. Just some ham and egger who cosplayed as Hagar the Horrible. Separate the shitty things he did and what is he? I wouldn’t watch a show about him. Now if they interviewed someone also problematic and talented and fascinating like Kanye West, that’s another story.
Adam 2
2023-06-11 04:39:47 +0000 UTCShe's plur
ploob
2023-06-11 04:33:45 +0000 UTCGuy is boring as fuck. Tedious. He hasn't learned a thing. I get why people are upset about the interview, but my takeaway is that it was surprisingly uninsightful. He's just an annoying asshole. I'm not sure there's some deep revelation in the details.
MJ Hicks
2023-06-11 04:26:32 +0000 UTCBut at least the fellatio the two parties performed on each other was consensual.
Adam 2
2023-06-11 04:10:47 +0000 UTCOkay. I've listened. Frankly, I think you guys have gotten too close to your subject matter, as this interview approach suggests to me you've totally desensitized yourselves and have lost some objectivity.
Jessica
2023-06-11 04:08:30 +0000 UTCI so don’t want to get into a back and forth, but as to the important aspects of this topic: can you elaborate? I think it’s a fair thing to question the merits of the interview; I think it’s fair to be skeptical of someone who had been part of a movement that was antagonistic of your existence and tried to take over your government with force and violence. But what do I know?
Kal
2023-06-11 03:53:47 +0000 UTCYep
Kal
2023-06-11 03:48:53 +0000 UTCI’m not acting as a moral compass at all. Nor am I passing judgment. If I had a successful podcast that made lots of money monthly, I cannot say I wouldn’t do the same thing. But since I pay 5 bucks a month, the least I can do is bitch about something I don’t like. If people like this episode, more power to them.
Adam 2
2023-06-11 03:45:08 +0000 UTCIt’s Liz now. Elizabeth was just a role played by Liz.
Kal
2023-06-11 03:45:07 +0000 UTCi think you have a very poor grasp on several things important to this topic
TrueFactsStated
2023-06-11 03:40:02 +0000 UTCIt’s a win/win for QAA. They cannot lose here. If people love it, they’re heroes for bringing attention to poor old Jacob who was forced to participate against his will on J6. And if people get triggered by it, they’re just trying to be subversive and get people talking.
Adam 2
2023-06-11 03:33:49 +0000 UTCall of these people losing it are absolutely in the wrong place. also i believe you should have given him 2 years worth of patreon profits.
TrueFactsStated
2023-06-11 03:29:57 +0000 UTCThe ramblings of a raging narcissist who says in 14 different ways “I am a really special boy who gets so many things you will never understand because even though my dad never loved me, I am better and smarter than everyone else.” Hope you three passed on the number of a good therapist to this delusional guy.
Stephanie
2023-06-11 03:27:39 +0000 UTCHow is this guy different from the virulent QAnon Queen of Canada? Both are clearly mentally ill and/or in it to bilk foolish marks out of lots of money. Both fomented people to commit violence. Both participated at least somewhat in acts that broke the law. Yet the podcast only chose to shit on one of them (in two separate episodes actually) and kiss the ass of the other. Think the boys got replaced by shapeshifting doppelgängers because it’s too late to be an April Fool’s Day joke.
Adam 2
2023-06-11 03:27:37 +0000 UTCThis guy sucks. End of story. Just because he wears a stupid costume and has charisma, it doesn’t make him any different from other people who broke the law that day. I feel for people with mental health issues, but this is no different than the fawning, journalistically bankrupt, pathetic, ass-kissing piece the NYT did a few weeks ago on Elizabeth Holmes. Love this podcast and the hosts, but this episode is a hard pass for me. To quote Robert De Niro’s rotund character in the Stallone flick Cop Land - “YOU BLEW ITTTT!”
Adam 2
2023-06-11 03:08:38 +0000 UTCNo thanks
Robert Daniel Pickard
2023-06-11 03:02:19 +0000 UTCYeah I’m sure he’s just a swell guy and would’ve definitely stopped the other rioters when they went too far. Have enough dignity to be angry at the people who want you six feet under. It doesn’t matter how comical it is how they get to it, when they get to the physically trying to put forth into action a plan that involves mass murder it’s not a fun ironic online bit.
Johnny Tubesocks
2023-06-11 02:57:31 +0000 UTCIs he an oathkeeper? Did he serve his time? Should he be punished more because there were oathkeepers there? Do you think that they are gonna come out of this interview thinking what a hero and absolute Chad? Chill we are all adults here and most of us can still figure our how to navigate reality without the admonishments.
J.P. Quigley
2023-06-11 02:52:07 +0000 UTCJesus Christ. I know j6 is a remote thing to most people but I live like half a mile down the road from the hotel where the oath keepers had their staging grounds and arsenal stored. For fucks sake you have to try to remember what they would have done to innocent people if they had succeeded even if they are dumbasses like chansley
Johnny Tubesocks
2023-06-11 02:39:47 +0000 UTCYeah, but, this is one of the cool ones.
Aaron
2023-06-11 02:36:39 +0000 UTCDid you guys just air a puff piece soft ball interview with a fucking J6er who wanted to murder people and overthrow the government?
Johnny Tubesocks
2023-06-11 02:33:18 +0000 UTCIs he talking about the film zeitgeist? That’s what pilled me back then Sending love y’all
🔻
2023-06-11 02:30:55 +0000 UTCNo fucking way
Jon
2023-06-11 02:12:59 +0000 UTCWhat a get!!!
Cordelia Reagan
2023-06-11 01:49:11 +0000 UTCThe time is upon us. The prophecy. The prodigal son. Returns. You cannot run from the scriptures. Sorry boy.
Overzealous Euthanasiast
2023-06-11 01:49:05 +0000 UTCThis worries me, but I'll withhold judgment till I hear it. Oblique from the summary.
Jessica
2023-06-11 01:41:45 +0000 UTCOh shit we made it
Stargate SG Won
2023-06-11 01:39:29 +0000 UTCWould never have guessed you'd be able to land this - excited to listen!
Scliff Bartoni
2023-06-11 01:36:27 +0000 UTCNice! Ty for content gentlemen
MJ SKA BOI
2023-06-11 01:30:09 +0000 UTCWill hold off on the ethics of this until I actually hear the episode
orc
2023-06-11 01:28:50 +0000 UTC
