Episode 232: Durham Deactivated

‘For the pure’ sounds pretty ‘master race-ish’… TBD

RNG

"He's some general" reminds me of the children's book "Charlotte's Web" with "some pig" written in the spider web. "He's some general, some man, some pig"...it works

Jana Shockman

How the mighty have fallen. Taibbi serving his Musk master then being kicked aside and left broken-hearted, all over Substack lol. And Greenwald seeing how friendly he can be appearing on right-wing outlets since he doesn't get invited elsewhere. RIP David Miranda (1985 - May 9, 2023), Glenn's husband.

That clip at the very end, that was the cherry on the cake to this episode.

Elle BelAnge

Matt Taibbi and Glenn Greenwald will be unhappy to hear about this

aarinsanity

Writing into Jake despite being told not to: if your monitors flicker black for a second on two, especially when you stand up or get a static shock, then the monitor cable is not effectively shielded against EM interference.

Hercynian

I think you mean "correct the record".

Nona

It's pretty damning how most of what you cite as "Trump-Russia collusion" is Russian interference that didn't involve Trump. Trump does not look like he was an asset, no matter how much you #resistance liberals want him to be. He was (and is) a fellow traveler, which is bad, but it's a very, VERY different sort of bad, and it's one that's a lot less politically expedient for you. We Democrats didn't lose in 2016 primarily (let alone exclusively) b/c of foreign fuckery. We lost b/c we collectively tripped over our own feet while trying to pat ourselves on the back and high-five ourselves simultaneously. You may have memory-holed establishment Democrat triumphalism in fall 2016, but some of us remember the gleeful anticipation of the GOP's imminent collapse as an organized party for the next generation, which was to be accompanied by all the "reasonable Republicans" (you know, the 50% of Trump voters who "weren't deplorable") coming over to the Democratic Party and being given the DFH's seats at the table. And that's still relevant, b/c you're still trying to tell us that most if not all the bad coming from the GOP is foreign interference, which implies that if we can cut that off we'll be able to work hand-in-hand with the "good Republicans". And that's just not true; we're seeing the culmination of decades of out-in-the-open, methodical work by the GOP to take over the gov't and make the Democratic Party irrelevant. People still espousing that our main problem is foreign interference at this point are at best useful idiots for the GOP, but it's getting increasingly hard to assume THEY are not fellow travelers...

Nona

Not sure why you actually care ...but a discussion isn't getting "worked up" 🤣 I just wanted the facts out there....no biggie. Enjoy your day, burro 🤘😁

C’mon

Insane how many Russiagate libs still listen to this podcast lol

burro

So what's the outcome you're waiting for that makes it so important for you to get worked up online and defend the honor of the Mueller Report? Trump isn't going down for this. Keep waiting for Godot. It's not gonna happen.

burro

No reason to stack the Audiance either. He's such an ignoramus. Other than watching a 77 year old have a temper tantrum surrounded by his Mean Girls laughing and applauding when he farted, it had no real purpose. Just more of the same 🤢

C’mon

Did Trump and Putin get together in a garage with "collision Plan A" and sign it in blood? Probably not. Is there clear evidence of Russia using him as an asset? Absolutely. Are there cronies/ busines partners/lawyers with secrets and a reason to lie? C'mon. That's why it's played out this way. ....all the rest is a shell game.

C’mon

So. Much. Criming 😂 not only Trump, either. Maybe you aren't from the USA, so.. Russia/Trump collusion coming up: (based on Muellers well documented evidence from his investigation, there are: Expelled Russian spies (18?), Many Russian disinfo accounts found on Twitter/ FB, from 2016. Arrests at the NRA and it's initial shut down , Con Men, Maria Butina's honey trap (now back in Russia celebrated for her spying) money laundering,, Deutscha Bank, Trump Towers owned by Russian mobsters, Dark Money donations ties to Russia... man ...where DIDN'T they find evidence that Trump connects-the-dots with Russia bigly? Not only Russia, the Arab Emeritus, andTrump had offshore accounts in China. How'd you miss all this? 🙂

C’mon

The timeline is what it is. Steele's dossier was a media darling, but ultimately irrelevant. Russia interfered in 2016. Trump had sketchy Russian ties. Ya think its a good idea to rule out forigien fuckery, folks?? 😆 It's that simple. Durham's BS is the Long Con. They know most Americans have no clue whats in Mueller's report. Horowitz' (during Trump) did the SAME investigation, he concluded that the FBI acted appropriately and without bias. Trump was pissy about that so DOJ nursemaid-in-chief, Barr, hired Durham. Why the fuck not spend taxpayer money on MAGA propaganda? The bottom line is, after 2 exhaustive investigafions, Crossfire Hurricane stands up. Check out Wikipedia for details and timelines. They do a good summation. Best 😎🤘

C’mon

What was the russian interference?

Sneakaboard

are you in the discord?

Downtown Coyote

I am 110% here for savage Travis. Holy shit, that was amazing.

Professional Chud Watcher

That's a very narrow and very careful defense of how Crossfire Hurricane was conducted. From the Durham report (p12): "As noted, it was not until mid-September that the Crossfire Hurricane investigators received several of the Steele Reports. Within days of their receipt, the unvetted and unverified Steele Reports were used to support probable cause in the FBI's FISA applications targeting Page, a U.S. citizen who, for a period of time, had been an advisor to Trump. As discussed later in the report, this was done at a time when the FBI knew that the same information Steele had provided to the FBI had also been fed to the media and others in Washington, D.C." - the investigation may have been started w/o the Steele dossier, but it used it in non-trivial (indeed, decisive) ways, and having the FBI do so was something the Clinton campaign was counting on doing.

Nona

Yes. Which is why Crossfire Hurricane didn't use ANY oppo research when McCabe opened the investigation. It was opened BEFORE Steele's report and had nothing to do with Clinton.

C’mon

Context matters. A lot. Opo research is inherently biased so it does not form a good basis for law enforcement investigations. And in the context of this episode, Clinton's opo research *plan* was to direct that opo research to the FBI. The nefarious thing is *planning in advance to use federal law enforcement to win an election*. It would be one thing to find information and then send it to the FBI. Planning on doing so if and when a particular candidate wins the primary so you have the weakest possible opponent in the general is very much politicizing law enforcement to advance your campaign's interests.

Nona

Ps if one thinks Opo research is only used as a negative...think of George Santos. Had Republicans done due diligence in that regard, he'd have never gotten out of the gate.

C’mon

Um. News flash. Russia DID interfere in our election. Muellers report wasn't a guess, or up to interpretation. The evidence is THERE in the report. Why else would Trump (and Barr) bother to obstruct? Clinton simply warned Americans, so why does she gets defacto villain every time? She had nothing to do with Crossfire Hurricane. Why write? Geezuz guys, it was so inaccurate or slap dash one almost HAS to correct the record here. Smh.

C’mon

Every time San clemente is mentioned it's someone insane. I lived there for about 5 years. It's such an insane uptight area. I lived with one of the few liberals there, my great uncle. Also, Jackson hinkle is from there too. He lived down the street from me, but he was in high school for most of when I lived there so I never saw him. I probably saw his family though.

foxy

That whole CNN debacle was like a TFG informercial.

Jon Adams

There IS a context beyond "winning" and " losing" (or politics). It's Insane Lying vs Reality. Insane Lying = State sanctioned percecution (like LGBTQ+) an unfixable fucked up sewer world, planetary devastation and an early death for Gen Z. Reality = important tools for Humanoid survival. Because annihilation always SOUNDS fun...😶

C’mon