Update 12/06 - Hunter: The Parenting is Changing!
Added 2024-12-06 20:00:09 +0000 UTC
We're driving through Patreon this week to get your order, so far it's 15 triple cheeseburgers, and 32 deep fried chicken skins.
Any of you want anything else?
That's unfortunate because now it's update day.
It is me Earndil again with Patreon Update of the biweekly variety, or as close to it as we can reckon with how busy we've been.
But rather than just wax poetic about how busy we've been, I can simply point to many things we've gotten done in the past few weeks and months and just... vaguely gesture to them to make my point.
And then also talk about things we're working on.
We've released a whole new Audiolog, a Chapter of Norfolk Wizard Game, as well as a Short that we were working on for 5 months!
(Not really, it was just forgotten for 5 months until it came to light that it was almost complete).
On top of all that we're working on releasing ANOTHER Audiolog TOMORROW, and the audio work for another Audiolog has been completed, with a release slated for just after Chapter 5.
As Alfa has dictated to me, this is all thanks to the B-Team, comprised of Me, Thunder, and some of our other freelancers like Dr. White.
But as you can tell we've been nose-to-the-grindstone to get this all done, and we have no intention of slowing down!
Work is still being put in on Chapter 5, and it should (as you've grown weary of hearing no doubt) be some of our finest work to date.
Alfa please put a panel below.

Yeah terrific stuff.
We have also come to a consensus going forward, and you may have already seen it by the time this update goes out, but some Chapters and aAudiologs have been re-labelled (title and thumbnail-wise).
For Chapter 6 and onward, we have made structural changes to our scriptwork process to facilitate shorter and sweeter Chapters, far more like HTP Chapter 3.
In addition we have recognised that, observing median viewership, our Audiologs are watched on par (or in some cases even more) than the animated Chapters.
In the past, we have used our Audiologs as supplementary material that expands the setting and gives our characters an opportunity for smaller moments, allowing for more natural, introspective development.
Given the general viewership of the Audiologs, and our wish to not have our animated Chapters be overbloated going into the future, we plan to no longer treat Audiologs as merely supplementary.
Instead, Audiologs will be rebranded as Sub-Chapters that will be treated with equal import and substance as the mainline Chapters.
As we write Chapters, we will assume that people who watch them have also watched or listened to the Audiolog Sub-Chapters, and if they haven’t, they’ll have to either FIX THAT or survive on the crumbs of context clues and “Last Time On” summations.
We will take efforts to not make the lack of context overwhelming, so that people do not have to watch 6+ hours of content just to catch up (even though many have indicated the exact opposite, and in fact want far more).
We still plan to have many Sub-Chapters be focused on creative liberty, smaller character moments, expanding the setting and story vertically and allowing for big lore dumps and exposition what we enjoy.
But, this series will now be a Multi-Media Experience~.
Kind of like a uuuuh game where you got in-game dialogue interspersed with animated cutscenes my life is like a video game -- This last part was wholly written by Alfa please help him he loves Falling in Reverse too much.
That's quite a lot to go over, but it's ALL FOR GOOD PURPOSE.
We've got tons of work to do, and not a lot of time to do it!
We'll see you then.
Until next time, have a poppeng rest of your day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-Earndil
Until next time, have a good one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your bones are the bones of truth. Pull them from your body so we may commune easier clearer more truthly.
Soaring Spoon
2025-02-15 06:04:16 +0000 UTC
9 months wait for an hour of badassery and hunterdry will be well worth it^^
Hal Embers
2025-01-09 07:35:22 +0000 UTC
Can a new episode of the Norfolk wizard game be expected anytime soon? I miss my unhinged wizard Fr(iend)eaks :(
Lennart Winne
2025-01-05 15:39:16 +0000 UTC
I also hope you’re bones aren’t lying. After all it’s very important to be able to trust your skeleton
Jlad
2025-01-04 03:11:20 +0000 UTC
I feel in my bones that chapter 5 will be released very soon, I hope my bones aren't lying to me again.
EnTropic
2025-01-03 22:30:20 +0000 UTC
The content you put out the best I've seen from the TTRPG and tabletop games community, it just has a certain energy to it that makes my day better and actually encourages me to finish some of my own projects. I appreciate you being upfront and giving us a way to support.
Random question. So, are the patreon and youtube memberships the same? I originally subscribed here but youtube is easier for me to manage so I switched there. I am not sure if it matters at all.
Harley2123
2025-01-02 03:32:29 +0000 UTC
Personally I think making the chapters shorter is a good/better idea. You can deliver them in a timely manner that's a little faster, without sacrificing quality. You guys do need rest and relaxation, plus rushing things is never a good idea for one's health and video quality. Can't wait for Ch5
Red Blueberg
2024-12-30 14:29:05 +0000 UTC
Everyone isn't concerned primarily with maximum profit, private for - profit corporations are.
Direct your anger at the company that created this situation, Games Workshop. Most everyone else just wants a reliable source of food, shelter, warmth, transportation to the things they want/need to do, and free time to entertain themselves.
Or grieve. Both are appropriate reactions to the situation Games Workshop created.
Kyle E Johnson
2024-12-27 14:48:27 +0000 UTC
If only I asked sooner. Why is everyone only concerned with getting as much money as they can and nothing else. I only want my ideas to be helping the entire community, as much as possible and to as many people as possible. One way or another yet all it seems like all everyone cares about is reaping in unimaginably big bucks. I really hate the old fashioned mind set of "Only the strong survive, the weak die" And all of that is determined by only money. And if there's no money on you, then you should just die. It makes me sick to my stomach to think that people only think of that as the only truth
rowan williams
2024-12-27 09:08:14 +0000 UTC
Ogre poppenang do this as a full time job. They would be making money from it. YouTube also puts advertisements on videos regardless of whether they're monetized, so a 3rd party lawyer who sees these wouldn't know if they're making money from it, because it's on YouTube, until after the legal process starts and the old videos get removed.
You're asking 9 people to give up their dreams (and, again, current jobs) of being animators so they can get different jobs, so they can make your favorite fan project for free. And you are asking them to risk getting the videos taken down for everyone, so you can't ever re-watch them. And people have told you the legal risks and you've heard them, said you accepted them, then come back and asked again, citing the same counter-argument that was already addressed. You've probably genuinely forgotten that people addressed this argument before.
This is the "bargaining" and "denial" stages of grief. You're not "tempted to start" begging, you've been doing it. Nobody goes through the stages of grief linearly. You bounce between them all, repeatedly, for a while until you ultimately accept what happened.
Please look at the resources I linked. It'll help you move on. You're stuck in a loop and causing yourself pain.
Kyle E Johnson
2024-12-27 07:14:58 +0000 UTC
I'm sorry. But if that's the real problem then a simple solution is, to not make money from it. I l know I was making a rash decision, but it was more on the temptation of begging so~ much I'd be seen as a whinging spammer. But from what I heard from a few different people online, the basic copyright law principle now is. as long as something like that in general isn't making any money at all than anything fan made is all right
rowan williams
2024-12-27 03:57:57 +0000 UTC
That's dangerous. You might draw the attention of the GW legal team to TTS and make them realize they forgot to issue an official cease and desist, so the videos will get taken down and nobody will be able to re-watch them.
It's painful to not get closure on something you care deeply about. I know. Sometimes it's literally, physically, painful. I'm very familiar with this feeling (it's why I'm awake at 4 AM re-reading old comment threads, funnily enough). And, sometimes, you get situations in life where you cannot get closure. So, you need to grieve. It might seem strange to do this for a fan series but love is love, hope is hope, and loss is loss. The path through is the same, no matter what you lost.
This might help you understand the "how do I actually do that" part.
https://wiki.healthygamer.gg/en/Emotions
(There's a section 'emotional processing' a little further down. This wiki and YouTube channel is full of incredibly good information for many struggles)
https://www.hubermanlab.com/episode/the-science-and-process-of-healing-from-grief
(This one is more technical. And, again, grieving a lost sister is the same basic process as grieving a hope for the future, like more episodes of your favorite fan series)
I hope this helps in some small way
Kyle E Johnson
2024-12-27 02:50:01 +0000 UTC
I must ask this be done please. "Blocked until further notice" because I feel like I'm tempted to pester all on here by directly nagging until something is done about the TTS40K story. This is my request to prevent being a pest. But I can provide this if it helps to solve the problem. contact@blacklibrary.com . this is the best email address contact I can think of if anyone on here needs to prove to me anything direct contact. But I'm asking if I can be given this, or some preventative measure placed on me, so I don't get seen as a pest and get the boot
rowan williams
2024-12-26 21:41:51 +0000 UTC
This really was our hunter : the parenting chapter 4.1 big d's guide to vampiric powers after all if you really think about it
singletag
2024-12-26 04:45:22 +0000 UTC
Got here after watching ur state of the ogre, i hope we can keep watching what ur creativity explores.
I love The Parenting, and i hope even if little one more supp will be the decesive factor to keep it alive.
Happy Xmas! u earned it c:
Humberto H
2024-12-24 04:15:55 +0000 UTC
They mentioned in the video: hire more hands. $23,000 was the "keep things stable with a cash buffer for when unexpected things happen & tax mistakes and stuff" number, if I understood correctly.
Kyle E Johnson
2024-12-22 14:30:49 +0000 UTC
With donations now exceeding the goal by nearly 3.5k at time of writing, and assuming that this level of revenue remains constant, what kind of expansions could ogre poppenang be able undertake?
Jlad
2024-12-22 13:55:32 +0000 UTC
I have taken much from you. Now, I will give.
Thank you.
Saint
2024-12-22 11:49:05 +0000 UTC
Had a windfall this year so I upped my tier! Keep at it!
Norman Whitetail
2024-12-22 05:06:34 +0000 UTC
Can't wait for more audio logs and more stuff from you guys in general. Ogre gang rise up!
CheeseySword
2024-12-21 16:11:13 +0000 UTC
Patreon Fans like to go fast.
Arklaw
2024-12-21 11:01:55 +0000 UTC
Thank you very much! I will save this coupon to use for the holidays.
JaceyMastersDungeons
2024-12-21 08:03:16 +0000 UTC
You have a good and responsible adult -person mindset and deserve a big ogre hug!
(Unless you live in Nordrhein Westfalia I am unable to provide this. Please bring this comment coupon to your nearest hug provider)
Kyle E Johnson
2024-12-21 07:57:06 +0000 UTC
I was also asleep at the time so I literally have no clue but WOW has it been a relief.
And RIGHT back at you, Kyle!
I hope you have a jolly one!!
Alfabusa
2024-12-21 07:48:13 +0000 UTC
The legal situation didn't change. They can't. You will be told when it's allowed again.
Kyle E Johnson
2024-12-21 07:46:30 +0000 UTC
How long was the YouTube update video out before you hit the $23,000/month goal? I'm just curious. When I woke up and watched it it was 7 hours after you posted and you'd already hit $24,000
Merry Christmas! Enjoy your gift of peace of mind! I will increase my Patreon back above $1/month when my income is high enough to afford things besides literally rent and food and the occasional repair service for my bike. It might be a while, but I've got a reminder in my calendar!
Kyle E Johnson
2024-12-21 07:42:56 +0000 UTC
Ditto!
Peter
2024-12-21 07:22:23 +0000 UTC
I finally have stable employment so it’s time to start paying back all the awesome shit I got for free when I was growing up
JaceyMastersDungeons
2024-12-21 05:59:15 +0000 UTC
Hi. Sorry for going too high before, but I have an idea. How does an animated idea on a "What if WH40K was using Virtual interface games, to settle all problems?" basis sound, for a story?
rowan williams
2024-12-19 06:37:50 +0000 UTC
I'm in the same boat so I went down to $1/month so I still contribute something and remember to eventually come back and give more when I have money. I'm living on literally €670/month haha. But I figure I could afford going to the grocery store and choosing not to buy a snack bar one time per month.
Food for thought. No shame if that's still not viable.
Kyle E Johnson
2024-12-19 03:16:32 +0000 UTC
am broke, so i might have to cancel all my patreons. im still trying to fix the issue but idk if i can do so in time.
Richard Hempel
2024-12-16 22:34:35 +0000 UTC
Happy to! I asked literally the same question like 2 months ago because I noticed as well haha
Kyle E Johnson
2024-12-16 16:06:36 +0000 UTC
Ahhh that makes sense when you put it like that. Not an ideal situation but I under where they’re coming from, to YouTube it is then!
Thanks for the explanation.
DooDah
2024-12-15 10:48:31 +0000 UTC
They mentioned before that putting the audiologs on spotify or other podcast apps reeeeeally cuts into their views on Youtube and has even worse retention over multiple episodes, so they're basically competing with themselves and screwing over their youtube revenue by putting it on multiple platforms.
It's kinda like having 10,000 people in 1 sports stadium vs 3. Technically the same number of people watching a particular team play, but the crowd looks a lot smaller so advertisers go "eww" and pay less for the advertising rights.
So they plan to have it all on youtube going forward, which is a bit unfortunate because it's not ideal for audio-experiences, but I understand the reason and support their decision.
Kyle E Johnson
2024-12-10 19:12:53 +0000 UTC
Yeah. Being free from the shackles of existing lore they can just make the multifaceted human characters they want, instead of trying to fit it into the skin of the emperor or a custodian
Kyle E Johnson
2024-12-09 22:50:27 +0000 UTC
Will you guys be adding more audio content to Spotify too? Much easier for me to listen along on there at work.
DooDah
2024-12-09 14:03:12 +0000 UTC
I love it as a contrast from TTS too. I enjoy the more human/familial tone between them.
Bitter
2024-12-08 15:53:40 +0000 UTC
" (Not really, it was just forgotten for 5 months until it came to light that it was almost complete). " ~ I would cast shame upon this If it wasn't so annoyingly relatable... Keep the good work working
The 9th Traveler
2024-12-07 23:00:11 +0000 UTC
Can I just say I adored the characterization in the last audiolog? It really illustrated the love shared between the Hunter family. I’m so pumped for more, and I am loving the Norfolk wizard game!
Ariana Lahore
2024-12-07 16:25:41 +0000 UTC
Very exciting!
Louis
2024-12-07 12:04:25 +0000 UTC
Good. >:) More is good. I'm sure More could be overdone and become Too Much, but y'all seem to have good heads on yer shoulders. :Dd I'm sure you can manage!!!!
Gray
2024-12-07 11:13:54 +0000 UTC
Guide to avoiding arrest might be my favorite
Kyle E Johnson
2024-12-07 04:24:26 +0000 UTC
Bruva lives! *stomp stomp*
Joseph Elenbaas
2024-12-07 01:51:05 +0000 UTC
Me love everything. I will wait and the content on offer has been delicious. Keep it going, everyone. <3
Bitter
2024-12-07 01:37:42 +0000 UTC
I think audiologs have more watches because (at least in my case) when I'm doing work, I can listen to the audiolog and not worry about missing much, whereas the videos proper i need to dedicate time to.
Raymond 'Goblin Kirby' Weiler
2024-12-07 01:12:47 +0000 UTC
Would you guys ever be interested in making a HTP game kinda like night roads but with you own saucy spin sorta thing ? Also great to hear all the good news as you well know by now never enough HTP/NWG
Retro Doofus
2024-12-06 22:47:40 +0000 UTC
Ah yes HTP my favourite addiction
Retro Doofus
2024-12-06 22:42:56 +0000 UTC
Fourthed
S014rw1nd
2024-12-06 22:41:30 +0000 UTC
I really enyojed your recent work and was overjoyed at the amount of stuff to consume
Lederer Marcel
2024-12-06 22:12:01 +0000 UTC
For me personally I follow the Nier practice of everything is lore so this update post included.
Tripl3M
2024-12-06 22:05:51 +0000 UTC
I'm confused that any of this was even a question to begin with. TTS audiologs may have been side stories, but even then they were clearly going to be part of the main story. Russ casually feeding drukhari to slaanesh couldn't have been a one-off gag.
It's good that you guys are monitoring your internal processes and reorganizing when necessary, but I don't see this have any actual effect on the community or on the content.
Sumelar
2024-12-06 22:03:43 +0000 UTC
Thirded.
MorningCock
2024-12-06 22:00:46 +0000 UTC
Space is fake, hell is real. Thank you for update, Earndil.
MorningCock
2024-12-06 21:59:30 +0000 UTC
Everything is is Hermetic Propoganda if you say it in an Elitist enough tone!
Bunny Waffles
2024-12-06 21:52:01 +0000 UTC
Is this considered Hermetic Propaganda? Hmmm
Archon of Commoragh
2024-12-06 21:48:51 +0000 UTC
Solid update, glad folks & fine & chugging along.
Also, B-Team Best is Team!
TheSlowPainter
2024-12-06 21:39:04 +0000 UTC
Erandil is my favorite my favorite wizard
Electro_Static
2024-12-06 21:29:04 +0000 UTC
I simply cannot express enough how much joy your cinematography and storytelling is giving me with each and every entry. Thank you all for the work you've put into this incredible story so far, and I eagerly clutch the threads of the future magnificence in my greedy, grasping claws.
The audiologs for me have always been a brilliant way to build characters without having to dump too much exposition in the episodes themselves, allowing the episodes to be action packed and well paced, with the Audiologs filling in the gaps and creating a sumptuous bowl of narrative broth.
In the words of the angry policemen, 'KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, LADS!'
CrimsonQuill086
2024-12-06 21:03:47 +0000 UTC
We will SEE…
Alfabusa
2024-12-06 20:53:11 +0000 UTC
As someone who really appreciated your sound only stuff in the past… I still do now! I’m sure you will provide a treat for the eyes/ears/both, whichever comes in whatever order (though Markus and Brok doing a Die Hard impression never hurts!) never stop being you, team
JeanWorm
2024-12-06 20:48:37 +0000 UTC
Seconded! Loving the output but please take all the time yall need for yourselves. Especially Yule season!
Mister Joshua
2024-12-06 20:48:30 +0000 UTC
Oh definitely, I keep checking for drops of the Ghoul Episode on audible. Norfolk Wizard Game has also been overplayed in my household.
Decius
2024-12-06 20:39:30 +0000 UTC
It is 100% this for me. I'll often put on something like the Primer on the Supernatural in the background while I am cooking or doing stuff at home or on the road since I while the graphics are absolutely luverly, I don't have to watch to enjoy the sound of Speaker D screaming in the background like a psychotic white noise machine expounding on the supernatural dangers of the world.
Bunny Waffles
2024-12-06 20:37:14 +0000 UTC
Like oh my god the interrogation of Kevin and the guide to not being arrested were magnificent
Sean Laurie
2024-12-06 20:35:20 +0000 UTC
I’m really happy about this. My D&D group play by discord, we have a section where players can role play out of session by text, and it’s honestly been brilliant for conversations between 2-4 people for character development
Sean Laurie
2024-12-06 20:31:31 +0000 UTC
Ah chicken skins, with a side of chicken shins.
I'd imagine the audiologs' popularity might have to do with easier access in conjunction with everyday tasks (then again I've 'listened' to the episodes from time to time).
Decius
2024-12-06 20:29:09 +0000 UTC
careful to not enter burnout! take do-nothing breaks as needed and have fun!
Carbon Green
2024-12-06 20:29:02 +0000 UTC
Me and my friends have listened to the regular animated episodes AND the audio logs on a regular basis between new content. We've probably listened to the entire series as a whole a good 3-4 times by now, and every time something new releases there's always a watch party to celebrate. With how good the voice acting is, the series honestly makes for a fantastic podcast experience to listen to while you're doing whatever the fuck else. Great work guys!
Sergeant Stutters
2024-12-06 20:18:54 +0000 UTC
My favorite creative team making my day even brighter. I will be watching the live stream of the new audiolog chapter while wading DEEP in the fetid underbelly of Path of Exile 2. I have never been disappointed with a release from you all. I wish I was in a position to up my pledge.
Zephyr444
2024-12-06 20:16:44 +0000 UTC
Don't skip through the codec calls, Snake!
BanditRaptor
2024-12-06 20:14:58 +0000 UTC
I think the success of the audiologs just go to show how good your writing is! People are so captivated by your writing that they don't need the flashy animations to be interested. (also people can just listen to them at work or doing chores)
That being said, when the flashy animations are combined with the superb writing, you guys create some of the best content on the internet right now.
imacookie12
2024-12-06 20:14:09 +0000 UTC
The audiologs, to me, have never been supplemental. They're just as important as everything else
Flynn1138
2024-12-06 20:11:07 +0000 UTC
Seconded
Kyle E Johnson
2024-12-06 20:10:30 +0000 UTC
I was not expecting D to fulfill his promise this soon.
D stays true to his words!
S014rw1nd
2024-12-06 20:10:15 +0000 UTC
That is very exciting, thank you.
Ethan Cobb
2024-12-06 20:09:43 +0000 UTC
Speaking for myself, I've gone back and watched/listened to the audiologs many, many times. I like having them on in the background (wonderful radio plays), and I like pouring over them for new little details. Definitely comfort media for me, at this point.
Yall pack so much dialogue in, it's a meal that takes more than one bite to finish and I love that. I hope you still lean into long form content like that, but I understand wanting to make the whole experience less intimidating for newer folks.
Mister Joshua
2024-12-06 20:09:25 +0000 UTC
Perfect! I mean the Audiologs are barely that anymore anyway. Last one had full animation of the characters inside the golden goose and I don’t allways need action packed craziness, sometimes I’m content with lore and storytelling packed craziness and I am loving EVERYTHING ogres put out there.
Thank you, truly. It is a joy to be your Patron!
Lennart Winne
2024-12-06 20:09:00 +0000 UTC
It's probably a safe bet that your core audience at this point is going to watch everything. And integration of the audio log stuff into the main story has already made them somewhat essential watching anyway, so this makes sense.
I'm glad to hear you're switching to shorter chapters. It honestly just sounds unpleasant for you guys to make such long animations, as much as I love a 40 minute slow burn murder mystery. Smaller chunks is good. It's not like a good anime fight is made worse for being split over 3 episodes instead of 1.
Kyle E Johnson
2024-12-06 20:08:13 +0000 UTC
Audiologs WOOOOOOO!!! Love me some long-form content, weird idea, but have you all considered audiolog-ifying 8 hours of hermetic propaganda? I could listen to that exposition dump forever ngl.
Tim Jones
2024-12-06 20:06:19 +0000 UTC
You had me at more audiologs
Oliver McKowen
2024-12-06 20:06:12 +0000 UTC
My gallbladder shudders with barely contained excitement
Tim Speller
2024-12-06 20:04:45 +0000 UTC
I haven't minded the audiologs being supplemental parts of the story. I enjoy how they give more meat on the bones on characters and how they interact between the BIG STUFF of the fabulous actual episodes. Still, y'all do great work and I look forward to more delicious stuff to gnaw on while waiting for the BEEG MEAL that is still cooking.
Bunny Waffles
2024-12-06 20:04:35 +0000 UTC
Shall we finally see D acquiesce???
Elias
2024-12-06 20:04:13 +0000 UTC