Podcasting Day: Best Game of the Best Games, with Dan Hsu 🌭
Added 2021-05-19 12:01:02 +0000 UTCFor decades, dorks and nerds have been trying to figure out the best video game ever. And it hasn't worked, until now. Brockway and I are joined by former editor-in-chief of Electronic Gaming Monthly and Going Analog creator, Dan "Shoe" Hsu, to decide the Official Greatest Game of All Time. How? Simple: I tricked them. Me, Seanbaby, the person who does this kind of thing with Donkey Kong Stickers:
Art historians, what I did with that Donkey Kong sticker was take an unclear, subjective message and make it more explicit. There's no longer some ethereal "IT" that's better with Donkey Kong-- it's that gorilla dick. Everyone sees it coming but you, Mario. And it's this philosophy that led me to create this objectively perfect video game rating system. What I did was use amateur, untested brain science along with natural canniness to hack the minds of my good friends into generating Best submissions in five categories of game. I'll explain on the podcast, but here's something important you need to know now: it only works with the help of YOU, the listener!
So before you listen to the podcast here, or wherever you do that, you need to lock in one pick right now from each of these categories:
For this one, picture video game magazines still existing. Imagine seeing a cover feature on The Top Whatever Games of All Time. Imagine caring. Now, think of every game you would see at the number one spot that would make you say, "Well, yeah." Pick your favorite of those. It's an uninteresting, safe choice, but the best uninteresting, safe choice.
Okay, you have a time amulet and your younger self has just caught you time-murdering your grade school bully. The two of you get to talking and he or she asks, "Besides slaying our enemies, do we still play video games when we're old?" And you say, "Oh, fuck yes. They are amazing. Wait until you play BLANK." Also, hurry up. You've damaged the timeline a lot already and the two yous are leaving twice as much of your DNA as a normal murderer.
This is the time for your unique tastes to shine. Boldly pick a video game no one else would be smart or cool enough to consider. Much like telling someone, "My favorite film is Grape Stomping Newscaster Lady Arfs Like a Sea Lion Pulling Out Anal Beads After She Falls," this choice is more about expressing your personality and taste than art criticism.
Think of a game you love that could be considered the greatest of all time if you were allowed to add a qualifier. It can be as vague or specific as you want. For instance, you could do Best Game to Seduce "Hacksaw" Jim Duggan or Best Game to Cheer Up "Hacksaw" Jim Duggan's Wife, but those are zany joke examples which are obviously both Shrek: Swamp Kart Speedway for the Game Boy Advance.
This one is simple, raw data analysis. You're allowed to disqualify any game for hijacking your dopamine center instead of being good, but don't make it complicated-- just name the one you've spent the most time playing. Numbers don't lie, except for Five because this is actually Category Four. I'm serious; you need to switch four and five. Brain hacked.
If you have your answers locked in, hit play on the podcast... now.
Between myself, Brockway, and Shoe, none of us picked the same game for any of the five categories. Which means if you hear us mention one from your list, it will be our rigorously collected data's only correlation. And that means, scientifically, you found the best game! That's how science and opinions work, and anyone telling you otherwise is a stupid dumbass with provably wrong opinions.
Oh, and here is the Shoe comic I mention on the show. It's from 2014, a couple days after the launch of Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor. And if you want to get a sense of what it's like being in my life, I immediately made Photoshopping this my top priority and emailed it to Shoe and at least fifty of our mutual friends:
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Comments
I think it's kind of a funny coincidence that you guys did a GOAT video games podcast, at the same time we were doing a GOAT videogame voting survey on the discord! We did it as a march-madness-style bracket from a pool of 64 video games, divided into 4 broad "conferences" based on genre. Lots of the games you guys are mentioning (I am currently listening) were included in it! :)
GeoRayzr
2021-05-24 04:44:40 +0000 UTCDragon Quest Builders 2 for PS4 was available for a very reasonable $17 I'm looking forward to trying it
Jared Brazil
2021-05-23 15:21:12 +0000 UTCThe original puzzle quest game was so great
Jared
2021-05-23 15:19:53 +0000 UTCFigures that the one anti-violence reader would grow up to be someone terrible. Scapegoats never end. Excellent article as always, Seanbaby. It must have been awful going through all those letters. And those were the ones they printed. Imagine the rejects...I shudder. So proud to be a Patreon supporter! You are a freaking awesome legend!
Thomas m Gallipoli
2021-05-21 15:53:32 +0000 UTCI like Monster Train too, but I just haven't logged the same number of hours. Not even close.
Vooster
2021-05-20 18:26:03 +0000 UTCCall me boring but my answer to basically all of them is Minecraft -- I had to think about 'most played' because I played a lot of games like SMB3, SF2 Turbo, and FFIII back in the day, plus a lot of WoW... but Minecraft has been basically *the* game I play for over ten years now. It's also best in the category of Games To Tell a Bunch of Old EEs Who Don't Care About Videogames About Building a Computer Inside to Make Them Go "That's Pretty Cool", and young me who loved "construction set"-type games would have been mind-blown. Game nobody else brought is either Crypt of the Necrodancer for that sweet rhythm-based rogue-like dungeon-crawler action, or Legacy of the Wizard for being, once you figured out which character was supposed to do which section and find critical items none of which was hinted at all in classic NES fashion, a pretty good action-puzzler.
Christopher Burke
2021-05-20 17:33:02 +0000 UTCI played the first one for an hour and never looked back. Usually if there’s a popular game that I don’t like I can usually recognize the good elements. Maybe it has a good story, or it’s part of a franchise that I don’t have time with and I’m not the target audience. But for some reason ME just never hit with me.
DeltaFoxtrot
2021-05-20 12:06:56 +0000 UTCI want to come up with proper answers that have the weight of my years of gaming experience/knowledge but right now I cant stop the Mass Effect. It consumes. I'm fairly sure a bowling ball to the head would result in me reporting into work as 'Commander Lyra Shepherd'
LyraV
2021-05-20 07:23:35 +0000 UTCI think my wildcard category would be best game that was followed by increasingly bad or broken sequels. And I’d pick SOCOM on ps2. That game was fun. Just some navy seal missions. But the sequels were just bad or in the case of the multiplayer release just broken. My roommate at the time was so excited for the multiplayer got it and we put it in and it was bad. Same day patch and somehow it got worse. He took the game from the console and broke it in half.
DeltaFoxtrot
2021-05-20 04:20:55 +0000 UTCIf you love Slay, have you played Monster Train? I've logged the same hours on Slay and I like Monster better somehow.
Jason Mcclure
2021-05-20 04:05:55 +0000 UTCVanquish was fun. The general being the same voice actor as Oghren in Dragon Age broke the immersion a bit though. And getting through the challenges wore out the A button on my controller. :)
Melissa Albarella
2021-05-19 21:55:33 +0000 UTC1. Ocarina of Time 2. Horizon Zero Dawn 3. Act Raiser 4. Game with best ragdoll physics that always make me laugh: Just Cause 3 5. Dragon Age: Origins
Melissa Albarella
2021-05-19 21:51:16 +0000 UTC1. Persona 5 (All best ofs require a giant dick monster. No exceptions) 2. Breathe of the Wild (Let myself know that I'll never have that sense of wonder again and to hold on it as long as I can) 3. Stardew Valley (I know it's popular, I just don't think anybody would put it on their best list) 4. Best game to fuck to: Wii Tennis 5. Stardew Valley
Bulge Nelson
2021-05-19 18:42:07 +0000 UTCBack when I was in middle school, every month my brother bought Mexican EGM, and the first thing I did was to go straight to the back to read Seanbaby's column, it was translated as "They don't deserve your money ." Even in Spanish it was hilarious. Thank you mister Hsu for making it possible. My list is: 1. Ocarina of Time 2. Fire Emblem Awakening 3. Don't know, maybe Killer 7? 4. Best game to feel like you're playing with your friends even though you haven't talked to them in months: XCOM: Enemy Unknown 5. Probably Jet Set Radio Future. I finished that game like AT LEAST 5 times.
Yeyo
2021-05-19 18:31:10 +0000 UTC1. Breath of the Wild 2. I would have also picked Breath of the Wild, because my younger self would absolutely not comprehend an open world game of this magnitude. But because I don't want to double dip, I will go with Kingdom Hearts: action RPG mixing Final Fantasy and Disney? My younger self would be pretty sure future me is fucking with him 3. Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem. This was survival horror done well and I am still pissed we never got the implied sequel. 4. In the category of "Being Fun But Also Somehow Allowed In School" I will nominate Oregon Trail. 5. Toss up between the original Final Fantasy (I think have have beat it with every possible combination of characters, including 4 Black Belts and 4 White Mages) and Free Cell.
Jeff Orasky
2021-05-19 18:10:04 +0000 UTCThat Seanbaby piece where he analyzed the newscaster lady falling out of that grape stomping tub made me laugh so hard I actually couldn’t breathe for a short period of time. It really needs a revisit/remaster, because the old Cracked version is full of broken links.
Josh
2021-05-19 18:01:12 +0000 UTC1. Super Mario Bros 2. Fear Effect 2: Retro-Helix 3. Vanquish 4. Best game to play during a mid-life and/or covid-fatigue-induced existential crisis: Soma 5. Minesweeper
Michael Doucet
2021-05-19 16:13:35 +0000 UTCMy list with a disclaimer: I am a basic bitch, and I am also bad at videogames. 1. Best Game: Skyrim. It's a big game with a lot to do in it. It also came out in college, when I was transitioning from "child who had some Nintendo games" to "adult PC gamer". Skyrim was my Awakening. 2. Childhood game: New Pokemon Snap. I know it JUST came out, but the original Pokemon Snap came bundled with my N64 and was the first game I owned, and I played it for years. Then my parents obliviously sold it at a garage sale while I was in college. I want to tell college Victoria to just wait 10 more years for the damn sequel. And also there's this thing called a "Switch" and it's pretty great. 3. Thing nobody has listed: Darkest Dungeon. I tend to like turn-based games as I have poor reflexes and am bad at videogames. I good smart at strategy though. Darkest Dungeon is a fun strategy game that is also spooky and macabre. 4. Best Match 3 Game: Puzzle Quest. I got this on the game boy DS and later for the switch. You match 3 gems and fight monsters. It's like every mobile game ever, but you only pay for it once, there's no ads, and the storyline and lore are far deeper than a match 3 game deserves to have (it's not a GOOD storyline, but it is deep). 5. Most time played: Slay the Spire. I've spent 750 hours in Skyrim over 10 years. I've spent 800+ hours in Slay the Spire in the last 2 years. It's a rouge-like deckbuilding game that I play while watching TV or listening to podcasts. However, if I could combine all the time I've spent playing various different Pokemon games over the years, it would be in the thousands (I also play Pokemon while watching TV. Or Puzzle Quest. "Games to play mindlessly while paying attention to something else" is my favorite genre).
Vooster
2021-05-19 15:52:22 +0000 UTCIn category 4, the undeniable winner in the category of Greatest Game for Convincing a Tween in 1986 That They Can Totally Command A Nuclear Attack Submarine And Like, Totally Defeat The Entire Soviet Navy With It would have to go to Red Storm Rising for Commodore 64.
Matthew Bielanski
2021-05-19 15:35:57 +0000 UTCI was born in the 70s (Fun Fact: I'm two years older than Seanbaby but only 60% as cool). Basically I identify as 90% cat lover, 50% cat gamer, and 30% RHCP tattoos.
Bonnybedlam
2021-05-19 15:26:44 +0000 UTCFact: if you were born in the '90s, you are 200% of a person.
Vooster
2021-05-19 15:20:26 +0000 UTCBut this isn't the 90s. 2021 is Negative Extreme, which totally negates every advancement made in that decade. We're lucky we even add up to 100% Person anymore. Assuming we all do.
Bonnybedlam
2021-05-19 14:40:20 +0000 UTCThose numbers don't add up. 50% of the '80s is 64.5% of modern self, because the '90s took everything to the X-TREME and inflated our lives to 155% of their former selves.
Brendan McGinley
2021-05-19 14:36:05 +0000 UTCAccording to my list I'm 50% stuck in the '80s + 50% stuck to my phone making micro-transactions and 100% not surprised. (The list of 5 splits evenly because Most Excited to Explain and Most Time Played are the same.)
Bonnybedlam
2021-05-19 13:59:05 +0000 UTCFor the Hot Dog record, as someone who doesn't play a ton of video games: 1. Bastion 2. Rocket League (never played, but it looks so god damn rad, and is right up my childhood self's ally...and my adult self's, for that matter) 3. The Fancy Pants Adventures series! If I had to pick one, probably World 3, although Super Fancy Pants Adventures is also awesome. 5. Best Board Game Video Game - Mario Party 3. Although the Galaxy Trucker app's story mode is a super close second. 4. Mario Golf (N64) (I think. There are a dozen or so games I've played "a ton", so this could be any of them)
Austin Noto-Moniz
2021-05-19 12:38:06 +0000 UTC