Gumroad's policy issues (again).
Added 2024-07-06 18:06:27 +0000 UTCEarlier this year, Gumroad made changes to its user guidelines (which they have still never formally provided notice of to anyone who uses the platform) basically saying "no porn".
I've finally had to bow to these guidelines, so a vast swathe of Apsara content is currently unavailable.
I will gradually be moving all of that content over to Itch.io and Drive Thru Comics, neither of which seem to have as puritanical a stance as Gumroad.
I still plan to USE Gumroad, of course, as it's stable and trustworthy, but only for material that won't give them a nosebleed.
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And it also gives people who are not patreon supporters a way to buy your work at any time in an organized catalog which Patreon isn’t very good at.
ZenoCoyote
2024-07-07 16:38:32 +0000 UTCOn that subject of paying for something and keeping it (or access to it): is there a way to make it so that if someone bought an item on gumroad you can check and give them access on itch? I'm currently going through my collection and can't seem to find Guard Turtle. it might be in the downloads folder on an older machine and I'd be willing to pay for it again specifically, but I can imagine being in a scenario where I might have had to replace a lot more.
Woynich Fermat
2024-07-07 13:32:50 +0000 UTCThere's an old Abrahamic belief, long out of favor to most, that interest loans (usury) were sins that carried severe punishment. I'm not particularly religious, but I could go for a mob flogging some credit execs.
The14th
2024-07-07 07:28:26 +0000 UTCSo damn tired of platforms turning their back on sexual content once they get established. We can have gore porn galore and creepo misogynist power fantasies, but everyone freaks out the second bits touch. Hell, just a glimpse of something resembling a vagina gets you struck off Google's regular search results.
The14th
2024-07-07 07:20:03 +0000 UTCOh, I'm pissed off with them, too, but their service can still be useful to me.
Jolly Jack
2024-07-07 07:14:09 +0000 UTCalright, fair. i'm still bitter that they took the side of credit card companies
Damien Jacobs
2024-07-07 07:12:46 +0000 UTCAH. I've never had any complaints from a customer who bought products via Gumroad, they've always been very quick to reply to questions I've sent and have always been helpful. THEY don't have a problem with the content I sell; it's the payment processor Stripe that does, who Gumroad have to use in order to move money around. Gumroad are guilty of not keeping people like me informed, but they've always made sure people get what they buy and that the sellers get their cut.
Jolly Jack
2024-07-07 07:04:20 +0000 UTCI was wondering when Gumroad would finally bring down the hammer. They announced those changes with next to no notice but seemed to do little to enforce them. Sorry you have to go through the non-sense of dealing with all these platforms and their ever changing rules. :(
ScarySerum
2024-07-07 06:33:47 +0000 UTCIt's a shame, JJ, and of course is happening to every artist/writer that makes any sort of adult content, glad that you have options to use but I will say that the correct way of action with Gumroad is to boycott it, not use it or buy anything from them anymore (they're purging everything we'd like to buy anyways) if they want to throw their business down the gutter they must face the consequences.
Rayo Verde Productions LTD
2024-07-07 04:28:38 +0000 UTCI have yet to not get a nosebleed from your work. In fact it seems that over exposure to your work may require blood transfusions.
ZenoCoyote
2024-07-07 01:45:37 +0000 UTCthose two are fine. i was talking about gumroad
Damien Jacobs
2024-07-07 01:04:48 +0000 UTCYou have my sympathy JJ. I know your pain. I hope things resolve in a peaceful manner for you.
SuperCDR
2024-07-07 00:36:58 +0000 UTCThat's just the same as Patreon, isn't it? A subscription platform? I don't want to make people subscribe to something else. I want to offer products that they only have to pay for ONCE via a digital storefront.
Jolly Jack
2024-07-06 23:30:31 +0000 UTCHey Jack why don’t you just change to subscribe star
FrostBlade
2024-07-06 23:27:59 +0000 UTCEach has been around for a while. Itch is the source of many Indie projects and Drive Thru sells lots of big name comics.
Jolly Jack
2024-07-06 23:11:11 +0000 UTCOh good I have been hoping corporations would begin trying to save my soul.
Jellox
2024-07-06 20:55:09 +0000 UTCIt's like they don't like money or something :/ Either way hope the move goes smoothly ;)
Rotwu
2024-07-06 20:26:36 +0000 UTCActually this policy has been enforced by payment processors like Mastercard and Stripe who are being compelled by an evangelical conservative anti-pornography lobby to stop doing business with any platform that allows the sale of pornography. I don't think you can blame this one on the new generation. In fact the reason for these policies is to enforce chaste morals upon the more sex-positive new generation.
Vices
2024-07-06 20:12:58 +0000 UTCcripes. I'm so sorry for the shit you're having to go through :(
Tyler Schuster
2024-07-06 19:45:38 +0000 UTC...how trustworthy and stable could they be if they do stuff like that?
Damien Jacobs
2024-07-06 19:14:53 +0000 UTCYeah.
Shawn K. Younkin
2024-07-06 19:11:09 +0000 UTCIt's been my understanding that it goes back to Credit card companies. Visa and Mastercard especially don't want people to use them to buy porn so they enforce SFW Only polices on many online stores on threat of withholding their services. So Gumroad was probably faced with a choice of "lose a lot of money or ALL of your money."
TetsuKnife
2024-07-06 19:07:40 +0000 UTCThose lousy fornicators of toads! Mastercard and Visa are continuing their holy war against being able to buy NSFW content online. It's a good thing I already own damn near all of those pieces on Gumroad and already have them downloaded. Just link us to the new site that won't get the vapors over wuffy porn etc.
David Rudisill
2024-07-06 18:44:47 +0000 UTCGotta love the moral minority enforcing their bullshit on others.
Shawn K. Younkin
2024-07-06 18:39:50 +0000 UTCHonestly the "never formally provided notice" part is what gets me. No porn? That's just a business decision from their side, whether you think it's a good one or not. (And it's one that can be pushed via payment processors so it's not even necessarily their sole decision; they may have been in a position of 'we can either allow porn or we can accept payments through Visa but not both'.) But not telling the people you're working with about changes to the contract? THAT can be actionable. Enforcing new rules without ensuring that the rules are actually known first is the sort of thing companies HAVE been sued over. That's just stupid, especially as they obviously need to have contact information for all the people selling stuff through their site anyway.
Jenora Feuer
2024-07-06 18:39:23 +0000 UTCYes, but Gumroad never TOLD its users about the policy change. I only found out through word-of-mouth.
Jolly Jack
2024-07-06 18:31:22 +0000 UTCThey were forced into this decision by Stripe and PayPal. https://techcrunch.com/2024/03/15/gumroad-no-longer-allows-most-nsfw-art-leaving-its-adult-creators-panicked/
John
2024-07-06 18:24:58 +0000 UTCGumroad clearly didn't learn from Tumblr's mistake
Piradeux
2024-07-06 18:17:47 +0000 UTCThat tends to happen when the new generation get into power and is stupid about how the world works.
Nicolae
2024-07-06 18:16:28 +0000 UTCGumroad just lost themselves SO many customers.
Death of Ink
2024-07-06 18:12:51 +0000 UTCHoo... non-fucking... ray... D:
Leak
2024-07-06 18:08:04 +0000 UTC
