PATRON TAKES - Star Trek TNG S1E6 - Where No One Has Gone Before
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I thought this was a very good TOS like Ep. The Glimpses into the Past of some of the Main Cast was cool along with finding out just how smart Wesley is. One other thing that is like a TOS Ep...this is the TNG Version of an Arrogant, Know-it-All or Nuts Starfleet Official like (Commissioner Ferris in Galileo 7, Commodore Matt Decker in Doomsday Machine & Dr. Richard Daystrom in Ultimate Computer) I'm sure you will get a kick out of the end of this one and ask again..."Where is the Bad Episode?" 😀🖖
Duane Chancey
2023-10-21 02:36:38 +0000 UTCI love this episode for how imaginative it is! It's of several first season episodes that explore what reality could be beyond just aliens/other planets. Some of my favorites!
Bret Kay
2023-10-18 14:37:44 +0000 UTCFair perspective.
Chris S.
2023-10-17 15:25:15 +0000 UTCThis is arguably the strongest of the first 10 or so episodes.
Timothy Hennon
2023-10-17 14:34:32 +0000 UTCHa, I remember this. The “fan letters” started coming in before the episode even aired 😆
Glenn Johnson Barnes
2023-10-16 18:00:18 +0000 UTCAh. Got it. Well, better safe than sorry. But since that is the case, what do you think of this episode? Most people write off the first 2 seasons, but I like them. They are more TOS in tone. So whats your take?
Chris S.
2023-10-16 17:14:54 +0000 UTCThey won't read any comments on this post until they've watched the episode so you don't have to worry about spoilers (just keep it about this episode, of course. No references to future stuff)
James Bottas
2023-10-16 16:54:21 +0000 UTCWhere No One has Gone Before is a pretty good episode considering 2 things: its a 1st season episode, and its right in line with the main premise of the mission..the unknown. And 2, I was going to ask a question for Alex and Josh, as they requested. Unfortunately, my question would probably be a spoiler, so I’ll cancel. It would be easier if we did the takes after they’ve seen it, but either way, I’m loving it!
Chris S.
2023-10-16 16:29:00 +0000 UTCSo did some of the adults. lol
KatWithAttitude
2023-10-16 15:22:40 +0000 UTCIt's a joke. People have often considered the traveler's antics with Wesley to be a bit on the... creeper side.
Steven Johnson
2023-10-16 14:58:57 +0000 UTCI mean, they don't listen to him because on their first mission he nearly killed them.
Steven Johnson
2023-10-16 14:58:08 +0000 UTCWtf?
Derek Orr
2023-10-16 14:55:26 +0000 UTCThe Character of Chief engineer Argyle played by Vic Yagher Ran his own fan letter writing campaign eliciting the idea he was a new hot character More on this story later…
Thicketdweller
2023-10-16 09:43:59 +0000 UTCStar Trek V will be easy since it falls between seasons 2 and 3 Star Trek VI will be more challenging in that it falls between two season 5 episodes.
Thicketdweller
2023-10-16 09:35:59 +0000 UTCAnd when did I learn that fact? About one minute ago🩷
Rich Cirivilleri
2023-10-16 03:57:58 +0000 UTCCongrats! You've reached the first OK episode. A few more weeks to the first good one and a few months to the first classic one. Enjoying the ride.
John M.
2023-10-16 01:19:45 +0000 UTCIn the great tradition of Trek putting spikey costumes on real animals... we have the targ. A brilliant episode early on in the supposedly unwatchable first season. More really good stuff coming this season. Can't wait.
James Bottas
2023-10-15 19:43:31 +0000 UTCNo blah blah blah
James Bottas
2023-10-15 19:14:23 +0000 UTCFunny Diane Duane story. A few years back I was stilling next to a couple young women at a convention. We started chatting and I thought things were going well with one of them. Diane Duane was announced as a special guest. To my surprise, my new friend smiled at me and walked up to the stage. The guy sitting behind me just laughed.
Mark Chrisco
2023-10-15 18:24:23 +0000 UTCI believe he ended up basing the effect on water reflections on the walls of his basement!
Anthony Bernacchi
2023-10-15 13:03:17 +0000 UTCAnd none of us can explain the retcon, because it would be a major spoiler.
Anthony Bernacchi
2023-10-15 13:01:26 +0000 UTCBy the 24th century, no one would care about humans going somewhere for the first time where Vulcans or Andorians had been before -- that would be considered speciesist.
Anthony Bernacchi
2023-10-15 13:00:33 +0000 UTCI agree with the fan consensus that this is the best episode since "Farpoint" and a highlight of Season 1. The hallucinatory imagery is outstanding. Question: Do you think the series is building up the Wesley character in a way that alienates the audience from him? I predict your mouths will drop wide open when Picard nearly steps out of the turbolift into empty space! Fun fact: This episode was loosely based on a superb TOS novel by Diane Duane, the episode's co-writer, called "The Wounded Sky." The main guest character in the book, a physicist and engineer named K't'lk, is one of the Hamalki, an arachnoid species who resemble large glass spiders. Duane and Michael Reaves intended to *mention* the Hamalki in this episode (TNG could never have afforded to depict them on screen), but the reference was removed in staff rewrites of the script.
Anthony Bernacchi
2023-10-15 12:48:35 +0000 UTCWesley's a difficult character for the writers to get right - especially early on - but I think they did a decent job here. They are still trying to get the blend right of "child prodigy" vs "inexperienced and cocky".
Ryan Baillie
2023-10-15 12:46:06 +0000 UTCThis episode, in my opinion, was the first decent episode of TNG. And there are story elements in it that will be revisited over the course of the series.
Collin Freeman
2023-10-15 05:03:15 +0000 UTCI tend to agree
Collin Freeman
2023-10-15 05:01:32 +0000 UTCFun Fact: the visual effects supervisor read the script for this one, and when they reached "the end of the universe," the script simply said something like "it looks like something beyond imagining!" And he went "how am I supposed to come up with THAT?"
tyranusfan
2023-10-15 04:49:26 +0000 UTCYeah, me too. I've been checking a few more discs and it appears to mainly be the first disc of a season. At least that's better than all of them.
KatWithAttitude
2023-10-15 04:27:06 +0000 UTCWatching "The Naked Now" with this channel was, somehow, the first time I caught the allusion to Wesley's advanced mental capacity far beyond that of just a nerdy kid when he asked Chief Engineer MacDougal, when they're trying to move the Enterprise to safety, why she couldn't just see the procedure in her head like him; which took him very little time to work out (while also being "drunk" at the time). ...according to MacDougal (and Memory Alpha), it would've taken weeks to lay out new circuits for his idea to work. That was the Chief Engineer of the Flagship of the Federation saying that! It was great to see that moment being followed through in "Where No One Has Gone Before".
Miguel A. Moreta
2023-10-15 03:19:55 +0000 UTCGod I hate when disk sets do that...
Andreas Schmitt
2023-10-15 02:27:09 +0000 UTCThis is a good one, it’s one I’ve picked for a rewatch before, and is important to the show as it explains how Wesley gets a spot on the bridge. Chief Engineer Argyll - a wannabe Scotty or what?
Paul Rymer
2023-10-15 01:58:35 +0000 UTCThis is the first "true" science fiction episode of the series and one of the better episodes of the first season. Kind of "Star Trek" meets "The Twilight Zone" with a touch of "Space: 1999." It's also the first episode that really starts to humanize Wesley and gives more background on Tasha, Worf and Picard.
Dan Krantz
2023-10-15 01:53:18 +0000 UTCThis is the heart of any Star Trek. It’s encapsulated in the scene where Picard meets his dead mother. She says, “Is this the end of the universe or do you see it as the beginning of it?”
Geoffrey Linehan
2023-10-15 01:49:54 +0000 UTCI don't believe these are spoilers, but I have a heads up for you concerning spoilers. I just watched a Season 4 episode on the same Blu-ray set you have, and the first thing I saw when the disc loaded was a HUGE, and I mean HUGE spoiler. If you can avoid anything on the discs before you get to the menus, do it. Also, there may be spoilers in some episode titles so try not to look ahead no matter how tempting it is. Another minor thing. Seasons 1 and 2 do not have a real season ending cliffhanger. Seasons 3-6 do. This is in case you want to do anything special at the end of a season like you did with TOS.
KatWithAttitude
2023-10-15 01:06:15 +0000 UTCThis was one of the better TNG episodes and is still one of the best examples of true star trek
Derek Orr
2023-10-15 00:30:13 +0000 UTCKid episodes on Star Trek, does not get any better than that. bonk bonk on the head
Prof Moff
2023-10-15 00:02:48 +0000 UTCA lot of young people identified with him. That was the whole point of having him aboard :) Just like Chekov in TOS :)
Andreas Schmitt
2023-10-14 23:20:38 +0000 UTClol
Andreas Schmitt
2023-10-14 23:19:49 +0000 UTCYes it's definitely one of the most classic "SciFi" scripts
Andreas Schmitt
2023-10-14 23:19:38 +0000 UTC(Call me just JD, btw) I find it interesting that of all the fantasies they can conjure up, the Enterprise crew only has really classy interests like playing the violin or ballet or dying in a fire.
JD Nevesytrof
2023-10-14 22:24:01 +0000 UTCIn my opinion this is the first actually good ST:TNG episode. Turning Wesley into “boy genius” was kind of a tired trope, but Will Wheaton is actually good here, and the rest of the cast rises to the occasion also.
Glenn Johnson Barnes
2023-10-14 22:04:45 +0000 UTCI agree
Glenn Johnson Barnes
2023-10-14 22:02:58 +0000 UTCThis was the first episode of the series that truly wowed me when it first aired...It felt epic and imaginative and I liked the concept of Wesley being "gifted". I think I always kind of identified with Wesley... I was a bit of a geeky nerd growing up who felt like an outsider... so I never found him as obnoxious as some do.
David Wayne Fox
2023-10-14 21:47:20 +0000 UTCOh yeah. The Traveller. A Wesley episode. Nothing more to say.
Nerd's Gold
2023-10-14 21:29:30 +0000 UTCMaybe Wesley wouldn't be as annoying to everyone if the adults would listen to him more often. Then again, maybe not.
KatWithAttitude
2023-10-14 21:26:31 +0000 UTCIt came down to him and Brent Spiner.
Mark Chrisco
2023-10-14 21:23:12 +0000 UTCThis, in my opinion, is the first really strong script, both well acted and written. This is good science fiction. I loved the traveler character and I thought Wesley crusher did extremely well.
Rich Cirivilleri
2023-10-14 21:22:11 +0000 UTCI think it's also TNG that updated "where no man has gone before" to "no one has gone before" right? Although I must admit I preferred the first version. "man" in that context was just a different word for "human". The "no one" kind of implies no other species has ever done it either, while Star Trek was always specifically about the human adventure. But oh well :)
Andreas Schmitt
2023-10-14 21:04:24 +0000 UTCEugene Wesley „Gene“ Roddenberry :)
Andreas Schmitt
2023-10-14 21:00:11 +0000 UTCGene's middle name is Wesley.
Mike Rogers
2023-10-14 20:58:18 +0000 UTCThis one I remember more clearly. Space in Trek has so far never looked so vibrant. This episode continues to build Wesley's character, which is either good or bad, depending on one's opinion of him. This episode also has something that was the subject of one of the absolute stupidest retcons in the entire franchise, all to justify a terrible plot much, much later on. How do you feel so far about how the show is trying to build up Wesley as this uber-genious child? Are you fearing another "Charlie X" or "And the Children Shall Lead?" I bet you'll either not be bother by the Traveller at all, or will be weirded out by him. I guess the Fun Fact was (one of) the dumbest retcon in the world.
Nolan
2023-10-14 20:57:09 +0000 UTCNote that both this and TOS have episodes using that similar phrase from the opening narration.
Joe Concepts
2023-10-14 20:48:06 +0000 UTCThe writer of this episode is Diane Duane. A fan whose love of Star Trek led her to study astrophysics. She also got into writing, writing many Star Trek books expanding on the Vulcans and the Romulans and at the time of this episode was the most successful Star Trek novelist.
Jonathan
2023-10-14 20:46:44 +0000 UTCErik Menyuk, the actor who played The Traveler, retired from acting and is now an attorney.
Adam Reid
2023-10-14 20:39:54 +0000 UTCHow far does the Enterprise really go? To quote another franchise “far far away”
Gregory
2023-10-14 20:39:16 +0000 UTCWesley Crusher was Gene Roddenberry's self-insert in this world. So he wanted him to play a bigger role. He told Will Weaton that Wesley is exactly who he wanted to be. A young man again aboard one of these starships, going on an adventure.
Andreas Schmitt
2023-10-14 20:36:30 +0000 UTCGet that child away from that pervert!
Steven Johnson
2023-10-14 20:28:51 +0000 UTCFun fact: The guy who plays The Traveller was in the running for the part of Data.
Jef Etters
2023-10-14 20:26:34 +0000 UTC
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