What If...? 1x6 - Poll!
Added 2021-09-16 01:51:51 +0000 UTC
Which MCU Villain's motivation and reasoning do you think you understand or sympathize with the most?
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The answer is Dormammu poor guy was just super hungry and wanted to eat We've all been there
Dip602
2021-09-22 12:09:46 +0000 UTCUh…..they made an entire series out of it. The answer is Loki!
2021-09-21 03:35:48 +0000 UTCExcept they haven’t seen that yet.
Jordan Malloy
2021-09-18 22:35:49 +0000 UTCDefinitely Ghost or Zemo for me. Both are just desperately trying to ease the pain they're in. Ghost is a chronic pain sufferer willing to hurt others to get her next quantum fix. The relief in jer performance at the end is palpable. Zemo thinks vengeance against the Avengers will ease his grief. But in the end of Civil War, despite succeeding, he's still suicidal. Revenge doesn't ease his pain.
Shak Vids
2021-09-17 22:24:56 +0000 UTCI still think Zemo in Civil War was one of if not the best MCU villain I didn’t think he was right but I could sympathize with what happened with his family and why he was upset with the Avengers and in the end he did end up succeeding when he tore apart the avengers.
2021-09-17 21:40:52 +0000 UTCI definitely understand Killmonger as an Indigenous-mixed person that grew up with a white-passing family. As (at 38) I started to connect to the indigenous community and how Treaties are being routinely broken and how many reservations don’t have clean drinking water. Or how on the oldest woman of one woman’s family is her aunt at 50 because the water they have to bathe in and cook with is so polluted they have all died of cancer.
Bunny Norris
2021-09-17 21:16:28 +0000 UTCLoki. He only wanted to be treated equally by Odin. He didn't know where he belonged until he finally accepted Thor, Frigga and Odin as his family when Asgard got destroyed and Thanos killed half of the Asgardians and threatened to also kill Thor.
Stephanie
2021-09-17 12:28:24 +0000 UTCI cant choose between Zemo, Ghost, or Shang-Chi’s father
Steven Sandoval
2021-09-17 12:23:32 +0000 UTCWhen your defined options are a radical black supremacist or a genocidal maniac, literally every other villain has a more sympathetic motivation by comparison.
Scott Hadden Jnr
2021-09-17 08:55:51 +0000 UTCBut probably either Vulture or Ultron
2021-09-17 07:50:41 +0000 UTCPlease tell Calvin I think his Jeff Bridges impression is amazing😂
2021-09-17 07:48:18 +0000 UTCThe definition of sympathize is 'agree with a sentiment or opinion'. I understand Thanos the most. I sympathize with Killmonger the most.
k9commander
2021-09-17 03:51:28 +0000 UTCZemo. He was driven by vengeance for his murdered family due to the Avengers actions, and also the terrifying power that people like Rogers wield.
Crystal Squirrel
2021-09-17 03:22:08 +0000 UTCyellowjacket because I also like money
Nathan Mortenson
2021-09-17 01:00:08 +0000 UTCVulture. He was just trying to unionize 😔
Cultured Degenerate
2021-09-16 22:09:36 +0000 UTCKilgrave, I don't agree with his methods of course, but I can sympathise with how much of a crappy upbringing he had which twisted him into what he is in Jessica Jones. He's menacing and sadistic, but that brief moment where Jessica coerces him into saving those hostages gives him and us a glimmer of what he could have been had his parents not made him a lab-rat.
Ollie Grosvenor
2021-09-16 21:27:05 +0000 UTCWenvu and Ghost
2021-09-16 21:04:37 +0000 UTCLoki when in his show
Teun
2021-09-16 20:18:37 +0000 UTCThis poll is too easy: Howard the Duck.
MarkIsDaBoss
2021-09-16 18:42:08 +0000 UTCBlood for Blood just leads down a very sticky path.
Barry
2021-09-16 16:56:20 +0000 UTCMalekith, he just wanted some peace and quiet.
2021-09-16 16:53:10 +0000 UTCHe wanted to make the universe dark again, like how it was when he was born.
2021-09-16 16:51:57 +0000 UTCHe thought he shot Shocker with a gravity gun, but yeah when he died he didnt seem to care.
Joel S
2021-09-16 16:45:18 +0000 UTCI'm gonna have to go with Malekith the fucking Dark Elf. After the last year we've had, who doesn't want to send Earth into darkness or whatever weird shit he was doing
Danny King
2021-09-16 16:09:26 +0000 UTCI really like Vulture from Homecoming a lot. The government fucked him over so now he stealthily steals from it. And actually not that bad of a guy. (He did kill shocker and didn't even hesitate tho)
Master Pink
2021-09-16 16:03:37 +0000 UTCWenwu. I understood Killmonger at the start, but he went too far out of revenge. Wenwu was motivated by love.
Keri Parmeter
2021-09-16 15:32:20 +0000 UTCWenwu
Jack Kelly
2021-09-16 14:39:30 +0000 UTCMCU movie villain Ghost 👻 MCU villain daisy’s father both very sad and relatable.
2021-09-16 14:29:37 +0000 UTCI can understand why Killmonger wanted to share wakanda's resources with the outside world.... he just did a lot of horrible shit in the process
2021-09-16 14:03:06 +0000 UTCBaron Zemo. We don't need no stinkin' supers.
2021-09-16 13:52:08 +0000 UTCXu Wenwu. I won't spoil for people that haven't seen Shang Chi yet but what he wanted was completely understandable and relatable.
DanFDTR
2021-09-16 12:51:18 +0000 UTCThanos, fuck half the universe
2021-09-16 12:28:19 +0000 UTCboohoo, maybe one day people like you will realize it takes effort to LEARN how to enjoy something. What a sad world you must live in
GrayStark
2021-09-16 12:02:13 +0000 UTCHonestly all these what if episode are shit I don't like any of them
Darryl John Dodo Tait
2021-09-16 10:29:44 +0000 UTCI personally feel my one is a spoiler so I won’t say it but I’m just glad no one said Red Skull
Prince of Za Waurdo Over Salmon
2021-09-16 10:16:48 +0000 UTCKillian- Every nerds dream. Make a serum that makes you handsome and buff, Steal the girl of the guy who humiliated you, and also beat up said guy for humiliating you. Everything else he does makes me dislike the character but I understand his actions above.
Malakai
2021-09-16 09:25:58 +0000 UTCBaron Zemo. He had the conviction -and guts- with no super powers, to break up the Avengers from the inside, by knowing their secrects and having clear knowledge of the danger that gods, super soldiers, enhanced/skilled people could do to normal citizens without supervision of governments and laws. He tried to put them under the law and upper control for them to be responsible for their actions, even though they were saving the world. Also he has personal revenge for his family decimation due to Avengers' acts.
2021-09-16 08:35:41 +0000 UTCGhost from Ant-Man and the Wasp for me. She was in constant horrible pain since she was a little girl because of the actions of others, she just wanted to have a normal life, and she was convinced to find another way to survive at the end of the film, without killing Janet. Also i'm pretty sure she didnt kill any innocents, only the people that Shield/Hydra asked her to kill when she was recruited, but I can't remember for sure. If that's the case, she probably has less blood on her hands than some Avengers.
Erwin Rogier
2021-09-16 07:29:53 +0000 UTCWenwu
Shubham Bhardwaj
2021-09-16 06:56:26 +0000 UTCKillmonger pulled a palpatine on the MCU
Timothy McNerney
2021-09-16 06:04:55 +0000 UTCI don't want to spoil anything but it's definitely Wenwu no question
Michael
2021-09-16 06:01:21 +0000 UTCAs funny as "Ultron because he spent 5 mins on the internet & decided to wipe out humanity" is, it's Ghost or Zemo. Neither wanted to kill everyone or control everything. They never sought power beyond what they needed to end the pain/end the Avengers after they suffered incredible loss. They didn't seek to inflict their will on the rest of the population, who were just sometimes in the way to them.
Coeus
2021-09-16 05:21:43 +0000 UTCKillmonger by far. What he went through on a human level is easier to sympathize with, and I think out of all villains his origin hinges on a What If scenario, such as what if T'Chaza took him to Wakanda instead of leaving him to find his dead dad.
Darius The Great
2021-09-16 05:21:43 +0000 UTCClearly, the most sympathetic villain is non other than THE Trevor Slattery. I mean, it was the role of a lifetime! How could he say no?
2021-09-16 05:10:36 +0000 UTCKillmonger, close second is Wenwu.
Conner Simpkins
2021-09-16 05:08:53 +0000 UTCVulture, he mainly wanted to keep his family happy, so out of anger, he decides to take any technology from the aftermath of superhero battles to create weapons to sell.
Goracyi
2021-09-16 04:58:42 +0000 UTCI might pick Baron Zimo, but again his methods for retribution/vengeance aren't very cool.
Conner Sims
2021-09-16 04:40:50 +0000 UTCI actually think Wenwu from Shang-Chi is the most sympathetic for, but Killmonger is a close second
TheToxic35
2021-09-16 04:26:01 +0000 UTCMysterio's just trying to be a hero without doing the work, I get that.
World's Greatest Detective
2021-09-16 04:23:24 +0000 UTCShang Chi's villain might be one of, it not the best villain to date in my opinion. Trying not to be prisoner of the moment, but I can't think of anyone else more fleshed out in 2 hours in the MCU.
Erich Bomke
2021-09-16 04:19:42 +0000 UTCKillmonger is the only one I most sympathize with. It actually kind of distresses me how many people in the real world seemed to sympathize with Thanos when Infinity War came out. I'm worried just because overpopulation has been used to justify genocide in the past
2021-09-16 04:17:45 +0000 UTCHe Who Remains definitely has the most reasonable motivation. He just wanted to protect the timeline from the evil versions of himself.
Fallen
2021-09-16 04:15:32 +0000 UTCI wouldn’t really call Tony a villain in civil war though just an opposing viewpoint. An antagonist to captain America but not a villain or evil. Because that would mean captain America would be a villain if you side with Tony. But there really just opposing viewpoints.
Harrison Allen
2021-09-16 04:09:20 +0000 UTCTony when he was the villain of Civil War
Kevin Bartelen
2021-09-16 04:04:17 +0000 UTCCalm down, Comic-Thanos😅
2021-09-16 03:48:06 +0000 UTCKillmonger... I'm black tho soo I might be a bit biased
aaron harris
2021-09-16 03:44:51 +0000 UTCZemo and Loki
Harrison Allen
2021-09-16 03:37:51 +0000 UTCDefinitely Ghost from Ant-Man and the Wasp, the only ‘villain’ so wonderfully un-‘villainous’ that they flipped it before the end of their first movie. Otherwise, Nebula ✨
Jack O'Connor
2021-09-16 03:34:43 +0000 UTCMalekith the Accursed because I know no one else will pick him or mention him
Matthew’s First Name
2021-09-16 03:14:25 +0000 UTCUltron.
ResoluteRiot
2021-09-16 03:04:06 +0000 UTCWenwu (can't wait for y'all's reaction to Shang-Chi)
ColtonG
2021-09-16 03:00:36 +0000 UTChonestly zemo or vulture they are the most reasonable without having serious issues killmonger who wants revenge or thanos who kills half of all life. Vulture and zemo is doing something bad with good intentions
spencer
2021-09-16 02:55:28 +0000 UTCKillmonger had one of the most grounded background and motivations I’ve seen in a superhero movie and even in Black Panther he’s right about almost everything that motivates him to the extent that it forces T’Challa to change his mind and open Wakanda to the rest of the world
Christian Bolda
2021-09-16 02:54:24 +0000 UTCYellowjacket, clearly the superior villain out of all of them
Slim Shady
2021-09-16 02:53:45 +0000 UTCAdrian Toomes / The Vulture was just trying to provide for his family and employees (atleast at first)!
2021-09-16 02:53:23 +0000 UTCZemo
Chaos T
2021-09-16 02:51:19 +0000 UTCHis plan also dooms all the endangered species and probably kills off most of the threatened species. I thought it was a horrible decision for Feige to clarify post Infinity Wars release that it was all life; not sentient life. It changed how I viewed Thanos and his plan.
Chaos T
2021-09-16 02:50:02 +0000 UTCUltron. Because he’s the fucking Lizard Kong.
Billy THE KID Lawrence
2021-09-16 02:38:06 +0000 UTCme too :(
Guilino
2021-09-16 02:36:32 +0000 UTCZemo, Killmonger, than probably Vulture. Zemo dose it because he thinks it's best for humanity, Killmonger does it to stop oppression (in a very extreme way) and Vulture does it for his family, all reasons that make sense. But Thanos... it is genocide and NOT very efficient
Mr. Spice
2021-09-16 02:24:04 +0000 UTCWenwu
2021-09-16 02:20:39 +0000 UTCThanos’s plan makes no sense. He kills off half of all life, which means he’s also halving much of the world’s needed resources. Not only that but the reality is we have plenty of resources on the planet, but we don’t distribute it evenly. So I’ve never found him really compelling, and his ‘love’ for Gamora doesn’t make him a well rounded character either. His plan has no logic, he tortures Nebula, and kills countless people in the name of his nonsense plan. Definitely not sympathetic motivations.
cosmotron
2021-09-16 02:13:27 +0000 UTCBucky/Winter Soldier. He was forced to be the villain for decades, after almost dying while trying to do the right thing, and now he's going to spend the rest of his life atoning for things he had no control over. There are certainly many tragic characters in the MCU, but I can't think of a more tragic figure that's currently in the MCU.
Quwykxz
2021-09-16 02:11:48 +0000 UTCWenwu
Ryan Everett
2021-09-16 02:07:47 +0000 UTCHela because I just want death
Charlie James Verey
2021-09-16 02:04:22 +0000 UTCZemo all the way, at least he is genuinely doing it out of care for humanity. Kill monger at the end of the day is just another person that disguises his power hungry desire with "noble" intentions.
Yil
2021-09-16 02:02:23 +0000 UTCIf you consider the fact that Wanda is technically the villain in WandaVision, then I personally think Scarlet Witch is the most sympathetic villain in the MCU
Shiki22
2021-09-16 01:59:20 +0000 UTCAn answer to just be different: Karli Morgenthau. She just didn’t want survivors of The Blip to be disadvantaged & thrown to the curb simply because they happened to not get randomly snapped.
Jordan Malloy
2021-09-16 01:59:02 +0000 UTCAfter seeing shang chi, Wenwu without a doubt
malikparah
2021-09-16 01:58:44 +0000 UTCZemo being so cultured, being anti supremacy and staying true to his convictions is why he is the most likable villian in the MCU even tho he did so many terrible things.
2021-09-16 01:58:43 +0000 UTCKingpin! Wait is it still MCU anymore? Then Wenwu, wait you guys haven't watched Shang-Chi. Zemo, that's it.
Joel
2021-09-16 01:57:58 +0000 UTCThe full length is locked for me but I’m a raw rider patron.
Foggy
2021-09-16 01:57:48 +0000 UTCZemo… Nuff Said.
2021-09-16 01:54:26 +0000 UTCKillmongers plan is grounded so I can get behind it
2021-09-16 01:54:03 +0000 UTCWenwu, super easy question.
Cam K
2021-09-16 01:53:45 +0000 UTC