Fate/Zero Ep 11 & 12
Added 2025-02-19 19:00:12 +0000 UTCMy thoughts about this experience are at 45:49 at the end of the reaction.
Sorry to all the Fate fans in here, I know both seasons went over my head and was likely not a fun experience for you here. Thanks for supporting me on Patreon though, you are greatly appreciated. My apologies.
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As i have been keep commenting, this is a prequel lol!!! Fate/Zero is the foundation of the fate series but not the representative of the fate series AT ALL. You dont get a lot because we know a lot of information you don't! The fate series is so rich (it's so bad and it's so good, there's no right answer). Fate/Zero just answers a lot of questions and wasn't meant to be watched first. I'm so sorry. I don't know what else to say. In my opinion I think you won't like the rest of the fate series. Fate/Zero is (probably) the most complicated. The rest is way more simple and again it's so rich and filled with good content. You're probably correct that it wasn't meant for you, but I don't know. edit: plot aside it's filled with great action and brutal scenes and amazing music. A lot of fate is kiddish which I know you don't like. IDK
Fuji Nami
2025-02-26 17:04:44 +0000 UTChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnVwcUhxt1k should be this video from Gigguk
Haiiro
2025-02-22 10:28:37 +0000 UTCif nothing else, i can say you are not letting us down, its just not that
Red Menace
2025-02-21 22:20:34 +0000 UTC@jetman im curious as to what video you sent to tony, what creator as well
Red Menace
2025-02-21 22:20:07 +0000 UTCI watched Fate stay night UBW before this one and I'm glad I did. Because even tho I started with a sequel and I was slightly confused, stay night is much easier to watch with a lot more visually stunning action ( which tbh it's its main selling point) and just far more enjoyable. So in return it made the this prequel (zero) easier to watch but definitely would've had the same experience you did otherwise
Carlos Mendez
2025-02-21 01:23:38 +0000 UTCI think the biggest problem with Zero is that is trying too many things at once, laying the foundation for what the holy grail war is, and who the characters will be and their motives. They did learn from the pacing of this for stay night, because it feels like fate whoever it also feels like a way more shonen type of anime, which is action, powerups, sometimes provocative scenes, and Zero being a kind of a Seinen which is more moral stuff, psychological stuff, political, etc. To be 100% real with you, I get it, that you didn’t understand or catch a lot of the stuff, shit man you picked up stuff that I didn’t back when I watched it, you’re not alone in this, but for me Fate was the flashy anime, movie quality budget I wanted to watch, and I took it as eyecandy before anything else, dont get me wrong, the story, prob second fav for me after Aot, but lets be real, most people want you to react to this, to see your jaw drop on the well animated stuff, like the movies. Just like demon slayer, viewership goes all time high when you get a fight or crazy sequence.
JD
2025-02-20 19:01:29 +0000 UTCHey Tony, no worries about it. I understood your frustration trying to understand this Fate series. It took me quite a bit of effort and rewatch to get the story. Like most people here, I just enjoy your reaction to the music and series to the best way you can.
Allan D
2025-02-20 03:34:34 +0000 UTCEven without Fate there's still 8 different titles on the schedule which don't get me wrong I'm grateful for all the content but also I personally couldn't fully enjoy 8 shows at the same time. I like the thought you had towards the end about maybe watching less individual titles but the ones you do watch you watch more frequently. This would also keep the show rotations fresher as you'd get through shows a bit more quickly, making way for new titles more often.
peeps
2025-02-20 02:59:17 +0000 UTCDon’t worry about not understanding Fate, totally understandable dude. I think if you want to watch fewer shows and more episodes per week that may be the answer. If you plan on adding another show I would recommend Orb: the Movements of the Earth cause I’m relatively confident you’ll enjoy it.
Scooter Liar
2025-02-20 02:37:08 +0000 UTCI like the “fewer shows, more episodes of those shows” angle. I think Tony will enjoy stuff more as well (at least that’s how I operate).
Sam
2025-02-20 01:31:05 +0000 UTCI was gonna do shirous theme
cosmicnexus
2025-02-20 00:20:57 +0000 UTCYou are probably spot on with saying that 1 episode per week, for animes like this is was not the right choice. The Fate series is definetly one of those very complex stories, that demand your full attention and that you remember many plot details that are only mentioned once. Although i would say that this is more the case for Fate/Zero than the other Fate series, who are on the "simpler" side and focus way more on the action. If someone like you watches the series only once per week and also many other series simultaneously, you just kinda forget stuff, which is very normal and not your fault at all. I honestly think you would have enjoyed Fate/Zero way more with maybe someone would have explained you things that you didn't understand fully or forgot. Still i enjoyed your reaction and your honest opinion on the show.
Elite968
2025-02-19 23:26:55 +0000 UTCBrave Shine?
Sphygmus
2025-02-19 23:11:24 +0000 UTCIs there any way I can request a song for u to react to from fate unlimted blade works ?
cosmicnexus
2025-02-19 23:05:53 +0000 UTCHonestly I was expecting this outcome. Fate, unfortunately, is a really complicated show. With you I had my 4th rewatch and even I had things that I realized after all the times I rewatched the show. Due to you having so many series to watch it gets confusing to keep track of everything in this show, and there are A LOT OF things. First time I watched it I had a Fate veteran friend with me and I had a bajillion questions after every episode myself. I hope ONE DAY you can give the other Fate series a shot. They're easier to understand once you've seen F/Z and got the concept. Remember, this is a prequel to the main story, which has THREE SEPERATE PATHS, so it tries to lay down everything for 3 different stories in 2 seasons. Ufotable made it in a way that if you watch F/Z, you can move to F/UBW and then watch the Heaven's Feel trilogy without requiring additional context. Other than that, I'd love to see more episodes of one and fewer amount of overall shows. If you did so with Fate, I think you would enjoy the show a little more (though still find the ending confusing - it's a given). I appreciate the transparency man, and again, hope you give the rest of the series one more shot someday. Cheers!
Sphygmus
2025-02-19 23:05:15 +0000 UTC@BlakStatik23 I understand now. I was thinking you meant something like generating full on notebook page summaries for each episode. But thinking about that now, I realize there are also websites out there that give summaries of episodes already. So being able to glance over what someone has already put together might be of some benefit.
Jet Man
2025-02-19 22:34:20 +0000 UTCI knew what you meant. Could be good to do.
DrumRollTony
2025-02-19 22:23:34 +0000 UTCWe could be thinking of different interpretations as well, when I say notes I’m thinking 3-4 words kind of thing like if this was OPM then Saitama saved *blank*. I don’t personally consider it as extra work but that comes down to personal preference so I wouldn’t knock anyone else either. It just helps with the heavy schedule, not necessarily anything I’m saying that has to happen either. Sorry if there’s any confusion.
BlakStatik23
2025-02-19 22:22:33 +0000 UTCI think your explanation at the end makes a lot of sense honestly. I personally really got into the franchise through this anime, but this was also something I binged all at once and tried to heavily engage with while I was watching. Definitely a different scenario compared to watching as a job, doing a episode a week with a bunch of other shows you gotta keep track of too. Completely understand how it's a vastly different experience
Alejandro Pupo
2025-02-19 22:13:16 +0000 UTCThat sounds like extra work for someone that is already doing a lot of work as it is, so unless you are offering to do that, I doubt it will happen.
Jet Man
2025-02-19 22:12:25 +0000 UTCTheres people who say to start on fate/zero but ive never fully agreed on that. Theres too much information that fate zero assumes you know for someone to get the full enjoyment out of it. Sure paying closer attention might help understand whats happening within the series but theres so much background lore and terminology that youd still miss no matter how much attention you give. I can promise you that even casual fate fans of the anime cant properly explain what happens in them so its no fault of yours, its just a hard series to properly adapt into anime
Nusutto
2025-02-19 22:12:19 +0000 UTCI will say on the channels that do tend to have 10-14 or whatever higher number of shows going on per week, they also have notes cause it is confusing and way too challenging to keep that many shows in your mind. So maybe a notebook, or a few tabs on google docs/microsoft word if you weren’t already.
BlakStatik23
2025-02-19 21:51:53 +0000 UTCFor sure. It's just a lot of investment if you want to really get into it. I still don't get a lot of stuff because I never got into the games or visual novels or anything. I just really loved all the character arcs throughout this series. The insanity of caster and his servant, the cruel demise of lancer and his masters, the bond of rider/waiver and, particular, waiver's growth as a mage and person throughout the series. It's a fun ride.
Zach Harding
2025-02-19 21:29:09 +0000 UTCIt does make me feel less unintelligent. I'm glad to hear it's not just me. Ty for the comment
DrumRollTony
2025-02-19 21:26:02 +0000 UTCthx for keeping it real. I hate fake reactions and you don't have to like everything you watch. I also support droping shows if they aren't for you since i would do the same.
Niklas Neumann
2025-02-19 21:21:11 +0000 UTCTony, Big fan of Fate:Zero here. Honestly, the writing and storytelling are a convoluted mess and I didn't understand a lot of it until I either watched more, rewatched what I had already seen, or had stuff straight up explained to me. This universe is loaded with convoluted world building and the fact you felt lost is not on you at all. Your confusion and disappointment are completely understandable, but I still enjoyed watching you experience this show. Don't feel like you've let us down just because you didn't enjoy something. You stuck it out when I thought you were going to drop it more than once and I'm just happy you presented your unadulterated, honest opinion throughout. Bummed you won't do any more fate but hey, that's okay because there's a ton more content out there you're covering that I also love so I'm not personally sweating it. I don't speak for everyone, but hopefully this perspective helps you feel a bit better about not enjoying it.
Zach Harding
2025-02-19 21:11:03 +0000 UTCFor sure do the less shows more episodes dealio. Makes shows go through quicker and it will be easier for you to also follow along. There have been a few times where you've been confused on where we are at, who this and that char is. And doing less shows at a time will 100% help with that issue. As for Fate zero. Its a prequel to a Anime/VN that doesn't really have great anime only starting point, and it was made for those who consumed the F/SN VN. Personally I would have chosen UBW as the anime starting point for you. The story there is much more focused and easier to follow along and understand, while there still are a lot of chars its mostly all from the perspective of the kid he saved all grown up. F/Zero from an anime only view also have a bunch of "wasted" characters with the 2 kids who for some reason gets alot of screen time, but end up not being that important in F/zero (they end up being important in F/SN). As for some of the questions. How big was the damage of the grail mud? About the size of a small City. Who is the kid he saved? The MC of F/SN What was kiritsugu's wish and why did the grail show him those scenes? His wish was to save the world, the grail in this form could only grant his wish the only way kiritsugu knows how, and that by killing the minority while saving the majority, and if the grail had actually granted that wish the only person left alive would be kiritsugu. Did the grail get destroyed? Yes and no Bit of a side note, I think you still would have liked this anime a bit more if you followed the new idea for the patreon. Fate can be very confusing. Especially when you are watching many other shows at a time. Sorry for the long comment lmao. If you have more questions ill answer as best as I can
Haiiro
2025-02-19 21:10:19 +0000 UTCAppreciate you sticking it out. I don't think you have to feel bad about not getting it or letting people down. Your reactions actually kind of opened my eyes. This really isn't an enjoyable watch for anyone who isn't already invested in these characters or watched or read Stay Night. I do hope you'll give Unlimited Blade Works a try one day though, I think it's a lot more watchable and focused. I think more episodes of the current running shows would be better too. Gives you and the audience a better flow and let's you cycle through more stuff.
Sakeef Salman
2025-02-19 20:33:25 +0000 UTCOh that's evil
DrumRollTony
2025-02-19 20:22:57 +0000 UTCThx man. I appreciate you
DrumRollTony
2025-02-19 20:22:32 +0000 UTCI think that’s a good idea. Less shows but probably double episodes? Especially when you watch something that’s more on the complex side. For now, there seems to be a consensus among viewers on what could replace some of the stuff on the schedule. No need for an instant replacement for FZ.
Sarai
2025-02-19 20:16:03 +0000 UTCAlways stay real bro. Your fan base obviously is drawn to you to avoid the fake b.s. You are spot on. Fate Zero is awesome, but not meant for this platform. I agree with your quality over quantity hypothesis. Too many at one time is like putting too much ice in a good drink. We understand you are learning as well. You actually could probably write and sell a short book or master class on this for professionals. Anyway, stay cool. I will save my wise cracks for another video. You remain genuine and awesome.
Walt D
2025-02-19 20:12:45 +0000 UTCTrust me bro, you being confused is like the overall opinion of the Fate series. There's SO MANY different continuities and versions played out and the author literally said that despite some of them even contradicting each other, they are ALL canon. Fate is one of those series where if youre not a die hard fan and read EVERY main source and pay careful attention to EVERY detail, you will get lost
jonaru
2025-02-19 19:49:20 +0000 UTCI think focusing a smaller set of shows with the same or more amount of episodes per week is a good idea. Reactions are better when the investment isn't divided among different titles, and also, you already have a busy schedule. Of course, the exception to this is if you decide to start Orb following this show.
James
2025-02-19 19:48:35 +0000 UTCGave her back the knife he killed her father with💀
HaukurE
2025-02-19 19:46:23 +0000 UTCI think this one got scheduled before applying that 3 ep rule. I still think people just gets to request stuff they like against stuff you might like. Probably adding some queues on next poll Something like "I'd like a show with certain thematic" may help.
Dario Lizardisilva
2025-02-19 19:28:12 +0000 UTCAlso agree on the schedule change. I don't have numbers to back it up, but it feels like there's a mino hype cycle whenever a new show is started, that does down as it goes on. Having shows move faster keeps people from getting bored of a show being on the feed for too long, even if there's less shows running at once I think it'll keep the hype cycle moving faster, if that makes sense. And it's probably less burnout prone too
JoeyGuy7
2025-02-19 19:27:21 +0000 UTCYea I always feel like this gets lost I the fate conversations. Watching the star wars prequels before the originals is technically doable, but you're missing a lot and it'll all seem kind of stupid without the inherent context (well, more stupid than it already is lol). People who've seen something already really underestimate the new viewer experience
JoeyGuy7
2025-02-19 19:24:04 +0000 UTCDon't think you need to feel bad. I know it's an unavoidable feeling, but people like your content because you're actually honest about your thoughts. Also, fate falls into a genre of stories that are kind of complex for complexities sake thats common in anime and something I bounce off of too. Re:zero kind of falls in that camp too. Some people really like worldbuilding and interconnected plotlines as the main focus of a story, I don't so I totally feel you there.
JoeyGuy7
2025-02-19 19:22:45 +0000 UTCThat's the thing with the Fate series, it's one of those adaptations where it just works bettter for fans of the original source (aka the original Fate Visual Novel which UBW and Heaven's Feel are based on) Fate Zero was based on a light novel that's supposed to be a prequel to UBW and Heaven's Feel. It CAN work for new fans that go blind but you really have to like the concept. What do I mean is that the Visual Novel goes really into detail of everything because it's basically a book, so if you go into the anime shows after all the information that the Visual Novel throws at you, then you're obviously good for the shows. Because the Visual Novel is long ,if Fate zero is boring to you, it's nothing compared the Visual Novel if you really don't dig it. So yeah, I think this decision is good because I think the next shows you were supposed to be watching are more for the Visual Novel fans, for the people that want to see the same story in anime format, that's the main target imo.
Lixien
2025-02-19 19:17:01 +0000 UTC
