Upcoming Plans/Venting
Added 2023-08-08 00:38:01 +0000 UTCHey guys, time to touch base. I’m starting the outline for WWYK4 today. Should take me 2-4 days depending on mood and stuff. I planned on starting sooner but yesterday I did a bunch of errands and saw Barbie which was phenomenally funny, and the day before that I was kinda in a post release trance. In general my mood has been pretty swingy these last couple of days and I wasn’t even sure I would start today, before I actually got myself to about an hour ago. Already 500 words into the outline so it’s going smooth so far.
This next bit is gonna be a very long rambling rant I‘ve needed to do for a while now, so just a heads up.
The launch for 3 hasn’t been too hot, and it did kind of affect my mood. My plan is still to pump out a lot of WWYK because even if it’s not doing gangbusters, it will still be a solid recurring revenue thing if each one brings in a little bit of money every day. And it is doing that, so it’s hard for me to be too upset when it’s mission accomplished… but I’m under a lot of stress lately. This last few months in general, really.
Me and my girlfriend just had expense after expense crop up at a rate we’ve never seen in our 7 year relationship. Car stuff, dog health stuff, house stuff, just non stop and I’m not making anywhere near enough money to help with it all. It’s making me question what I’m doing and how I’m doing it, I guess. I‘m at a mental crossroads where I don’t really know what I want to do with myself.
Part of me wants to partially go back to the old Webnovel way of doing things and make a really marketable story in a popular niche and then to avoid what happened with RotGM I’d plan most of it out in advance and stick to that. I’d do chapters like how I am with WWYK, one take and then a quick editing pass. I would then publish them publicly in small chapters like 1.5-2k words each but plan on rewriting them for volume releases to still make them eligible for Kindle Unlimited. Even if it just means doubling the word count for each chapter and restructuring each sentence so that Amazon doesn’t pick it up with their sensors. But I can’t really stop doing Kindle stuff in the meantime.
Maybe this would be feasible if I could bring myself to work on WWYK and another thing in tandem. For a while it looked like it was possible to do that when I was trying to do Breeding Madness and Witches Going Live, but both of those fell through because of money issues. I tried to play at being a big author who can afford paid writing partners and it exploded in my face when all those expenses and life events started cropping up.
There’s also a more negative part of me that feels like everything I try to do is always biting off more than I can chew. I’ve never seen a story through completion for one reason of another and I only seem to be most excited when working on really big scale things like Coye and RotGM at the start of that one. I want to be some kind of epic long running writer and I don’t know if I ever can be, because no one project has ever made me enough to keep it running. Coye made me the most money and was generally the most fulfilling and I would love to keep doing it, but I was looking at my lifetime earnings yesterday and each book only made so much. Like, the first two made over $2000 over the year they’d been out, and each one after that dwindled until as of the time of this writing, vol 6 has only made $1400. The dwindling is natural, that’s not what I’m upset about. Reader retention is something that wanes with every book series in existence, but it’s how low everything is in general.
I feel disappointed that I’m turning 30 in December and I’m still not ‘successful’ and that whenever an emergency comes up I have to rely on the kindness of other. I’m not a petty person, but when I look through threads on harem Reddit for people recommending books to see if I can recommend my own, it stings a bit that I don’t ever see anyone bringing up my name. Part of this is my fault. Coye was me writing a lot of my fetishes that are not palatable/marketable to the average haremlit consumer. I was happy with the work, but I can’t convince people to get into it if they can’t get past the femdom, the size difference, and the feminine protagonist. WWYK is doing okay like I said but a lot of people aren’t interested in any work that isn’t fantasy somehow, even if I’m enjoying myself and plan on continuing to pump it out for the foreseeable future.
I don’t want to sound egotistical, but a big part of my discontent is that I’m really proud of Coye and WWYK. Not as much RotGM since that was my training wheels, but it obviously still is an important part of my history. On top of the money, I would like more recognition as well. I think a lot of what I accomplished in Coye is really great and it pains me that I put that in a story with such little market appeal. I wonder if it would’ve had that problem had it been a webnovel first.
All of this just makes me want to make something a bit safer in a more established genre like I was saying a second ago, and to hook people by making a cruder version of it for free. I have some vague ideas for what kind of story this would be but I don’t want to make comments on it right now. If I do end up going down this road, I‘d need months of research and development time to study more of the genre I’m interested in exploring. I also don’t want to imply just because it would be ‘safer’ and in a ‘more established genre’ doesn’t mean I would dumb my stuff down intentionally or rely solely on tropes. I would still do it my way. I’m quirky. I like weird things. This comes across in all my stories and I doubt it would change much.
This isn’t one of those times where I’m asking for thoughts but am intending on doing what I want regardless of feedback, I’m genuinely at a point where idk what I’m going to do next besides more WWYK because it’s fast and easy money, even if it’s not much.
The big thing holding me back is I don’t want to start up a big project, because I’ve failed in every one I’ve ever done. I had reasons for stopping MHFAP, I had reasons for stopping RotGM, and I had reasons for stopping Coye(which I remain adamant on wanting to return to), but it’s like I’ve got this aura of consistency hanging over my head. I don’t want to start something big only to maybe fail again. The only way I can see myself overcoming this is to plan out several books worth of material all at once with an ending in sight but room to continue past that ending as this specific genre is well known for. That way I can at least say it has an ending. I don’t know. It’s a very tall order and not something I can just drop everything to work on figuring out.
As you can imagine, I have a lot of thinking to do and would appreciate your thoughts below if you made it this far.
Comments
I meant 3.4
AzureXIII
2023-08-08 05:57:22 +0000 UTCYou got the numbers mixed up a little. 3 just came out, not 4 lol. Thank you for the kind words though. Sorry to say but sci-fi isn’t in the cards, I already have a specific genre I have in mind. I like sci-fi but I don’t ever expect to want to write it, honestly. The most I could ever see myself with is cyberpunk which again no plans for lol.
PunishedKom
2023-08-08 04:53:45 +0000 UTCTo sum it all up though, I’m not giving up, I’m just at a weird crossroads that I don’t fully know how to quantify and am trying to sort out emotionally as I research and plan for what comes next. I appreciate your support a lot, and it means the world to be your favorite author.
PunishedKom
2023-08-08 04:51:10 +0000 UTCThe problem with focusing on one story is that I kinda have to for money’s sake. I need something that performs well and I’ve yet to have it, and while I remain very interested in wanting to continue Coye, I just can’t afford to. I don’t multitask terribly well but I’ll potentially be trying to in the near future.
PunishedKom
2023-08-08 04:49:03 +0000 UTCWhile I understand your point about a-b testing, I believe that’s the analytical accountant brain talking lol. I wouldn’t be very invested in that plain and simple from a creative standpoint and I don’t think the end product would be better as a result. I still want to write things that I’m interested in, not soullessly tailor it to the market. At most I’m just talking about doing a new harem thing in an already popular genre with a low barrier to entry/rampant readership.
PunishedKom
2023-08-08 04:46:16 +0000 UTCRegarding RotGM, if you liked it all the way through, that’s cool. The problem was on the author’s side of things and that I was constantly making shit up as I went along and I didn’t like lots of decisions I made that became increasingly harder and harder to ignore as they kept mounting, and changing one thing meant rewriting dozens of things like a butterfly effect. I painted myself into a ton of corners and set up tons of things I didn’t want end up wanting to commit to once I thought about it a little more. It wasn’t me listening to a few commenters, it was all on my end. It’s not as if I dislike it entirely, though. I love my characters and lots of the individual moments, but I didn’t gel with the direction I was heading which is why Coye is a lot lower stakes. Putting it on kindle would cost a lot for covers, but more than that, I don’t really want to sell a story I don’t have interest in completing. There are ways to download it off scribblehub and make an ebook if you look around.
PunishedKom
2023-08-08 04:40:58 +0000 UTCThis is long so I’m going to reply in bits and pieces. First off, your post was nowhere near as rambly as mine so you’re good lol.
PunishedKom
2023-08-08 04:30:02 +0000 UTCThe reason I'm here on Patreon is that your books are a kind of haven for me. I love your stories and re-read them regularly. Something I've really wanted is the Kindle books of RotGM. Maybe it wasn't finished or wasn't going in the direction you wanted but I really liked that story line (maybe 85% as much as Coye). I don't know what those legalities or logistics look like for an author but I would definitely pay more for RotGM on Kindle. That could be a way to earn a bit from current fans. As far as drumming up new fans; it seems like there are two sides to making this successful: writing and marketing. When you are passionate about what you are writing I believe you put at amazing work. As far as marketing goes, I suggest doing A-B testing. The idea is simple do two related things simultaneously (release the same set of chapters via two methods) and then compare the A method with the B method to see which drums up more new fans, generated more money, or whatever metrics you are interested in achieving. At the end of the day everyone on here appreciates your writing and we hope the other side starts working out. Also, I'm not sure what holes there were in RotGM (even having read all of it) but I know Disney simply writes a new story to fill the holes in their stories (and they do so after the fact). So I wonder if you were listening to aa few commentors and hyper focusing on the "bad". The biggest reason to stop was losing the drive or fire to write a storyline. Also, tons of books and anime that are based on web novels to through drastic changes during adaptation in order to clean up their potholes and writing. Also, I don't see the problem with alternating which project you are working on. It doesn't need to be Coye Coye Coye or RotGM RotGM RotGM. I like the fact that you are taking a break from those big projects and doing some other things. It actually makes me look forward to whenever you might get back to Coye because you'll come in with drive and passion. I also think it takes a LOT more effort to work on a project when you aren't feeling the passion for it. Those most recent chapters of Coye took a LOT of effort even though they were the same quality and story as previous. So picking up the next arc for whichever story you are interested in writing is a favorable pursuit in my opinion because you won't have to worry about burnout from focusing on a single story. It won't prevent you from doing shorter works in between/simultaneously and it lets you worry less (I hope) about what you are writing next. I like to think this would help maintain a high quality while increasing production (ideally without feeling like your forcing deadlines down your throat). And with more production you would thereby create greater income. I know that makes me sound like a relaxed hippie but I'm actually a by the numbers accountant. Aka there are times and places to track data, deadlines, and dollars but when it comes to creative production those things (for me) are counter-productive. Were I in your shoes I would have to set aside specific times to work on the marketing and then let myself work on writing the rest of my week. Also, I'm ADD and dyslexic so I'm sorry this whole thing is rather rambling. Regardless, what I'm really trying to say is Please don't give up. Trying new (or old things in new ways) isn't bad. I'm just always looking forward to your next release! You are hands down my favorite author!
Clinton Walsh
2023-08-08 04:06:39 +0000 UTCAs others have already said before I'm sorry that WWYK v3 has not been as hot as you hoped. I am really enjoying it personal, I haven't got to read part 4 yet due to terrible working hours but I am half way thru it. I also agree that your shouldn't beat yourself up over what you believe are your failed projects as each one of them has gained you what I think is one of the nicest communities here on patreon (we can be quiet but nice) and I personally have enjoyed each one of your projects and own everyone one that your have sold so far. The only thing I can think of that I would want to see if you were to pick up the web novel format would maybe be your kinda storytelling done with a haremlit sci-fi story. It seems like a hard niche to do though as everyone I have ever read has either been lead by very generic and Op protaginist which bore me or they have been given up on. I just want to wish you luck in whatever you do and I hope things are getting better. I hope you know that your are truly appreciated.
AzureXIII
2023-08-08 04:04:53 +0000 UTC