AND When Monica was trying to calm Chandler down after telling him a guy from work was "the funniest person she'd ever met". She reminds him of a joke he told her that slayed her, and Ross instantly says "Hey! I made up that joke and told you!"
Diana Woods
2025-01-06 04:28:17 +0000 UTC
Iβd love it if, when you watch all of the episodes, you start over and watch them with your girlfriend. This show is so re-watchable, and your girlfriend seems lovely in your other videos.
Kelly
2024-10-20 04:08:53 +0000 UTC
huh? Projecting what exactly onto which canvas...? yes,
for many people it is indeed their personal private choice to make a wedding about professing their love for each other in front of their loved ones, however, it is not necessary to call such an event a wedding and certainly not "marriage". Marriage lasts years, decades even, why the heck would anyone go through such a long time just to prove something to their loved ones who are not part of the union?
There is no need to profess the love of a couple to their other loved ones, but it is of course fine if a couple chooses to do so. One day. One-day-ceremony. But staying
married for decades just to prove something to those other loved ones doesn't seem a healthy choice to me.
A couple that is living together and even has kids, when one of them dies, the other has no legal right whatsoever when it comes to the will - yes, that is the merging bank accounts thing. You are no longer just a person, you are also a unit of two people. You can
inherit a lot, but you also share the burden of your partner deciding to waste it all on alcohol or gambling. Also,
marriage is no guarantee of inheriting much - in some countries, a prenup is a thing.
You can live with someone for 50 years and on paper you don't really mean anything when that person dies - yup, if two people live together 50 years and are interested in leaving property to each other, they both need to write a will in such case. For example, even two loving brothers, or two best friends do that.
Phoebe is trying to compensate for her childhood or maybe she just wants to get married and have kids and share that with someone - yes, and I think two things can be correct at the same time. It is not necessarily wrong to
make decisions and have wishes all based on your childhood - in fact, we all do it all the time, people just
generally do not realize it.
Many people know what they want but they do not know WHY they want it.
Once you analyze it, you might still continue wanting it and that's fine.
Or you might actually stop wanting it, once you see the reasons behind your want, and that's also fine.
I also don't think it's weird they didn't talk about kids - well i think it is very weird, actually, but of course, I understand there was no time in a half-an-hour-long episode. but realistically when
a guy says he never wants to get married, i would openly ask , what his position is on
having kids, then. I would not just assume.
Viera Galikova
2024-10-18 19:58:12 +0000 UTC
not to defend everything Ross says, but my family members did figure out in college in 1980s, that today's birds are direct descendants of dinosaurs before Jurassic Park made that idea mainstream and real world paleontologists confirmed it officially... π so Ross figuring it out or theorizing about cloning dinos from a DNA in amber is
perhaps possible...
Viera Galikova
2024-10-18 19:47:15 +0000 UTC
I think you're projecting a little bit. Marriage isn't just about sharing a back account. It's a way for people to profess their love for each other in front of their loved ones. But also from a legal standpoint, a couple that is living together and even has kids, when one of them dies, the other has no legal right whatsoever when it comes to the will. You can live with someone for 50 years and on paper you don't really mean anything when that person dies. And maybe Phoebe is trying to compensate for her childhood or maybe she just wants to get married and have kids and share that with someone. I also don't think it's weird they didn't talk about kids because with the marriage thing it was never gonna work, so there was no point.
Heida
2024-10-18 19:19:29 +0000 UTC
Chandler feeling old at his job is something I feel in my soul! As a woman in her late 40s working in a technology field, I definitely feel like an old lady. haha I also felt so bad that Mike and Pheobe broke up. It was nice to see her in a stable happy relationship.
Kim McSharry
2024-10-18 19:06:30 +0000 UTC
Phoebe and Mike not working out was so sad. But I agree, it's always hard when one person wants to get married/have kids and the other doesn't. That's why couples need to talk about these things before moving in together. Jeff Goldblum AND Matt LeBlanc were hilarious in E15 π And Chandler & Monica's situation in E16 is why open and clear communication is so important! (Though to be fair, it was Joey's fault).
And "Got milk" was created in 1993, so 10 years prior to this. Also, going back to the Dr. Monkey joke in 6x12, even though it has never been confirmed whether it was Ross or Chandler who created it, Ross has clearly tried to claim certain ideas as his own several times throughout the series, like Jurassic Park in 6x02 and "Got milk?" in E15.
Heida
2024-10-18 18:39:49 +0000 UTC
Poor Phoebe cannot shake the illusion that "normalcy" is something that exists and escapes her, even though the childhoods of her friends should clearly show her, no life is "normal".
Phoebe automatically ascribes stuff like a Volvo and being a soccer mom to marriage. These 'traditional' American things could
easily be achieved without marriage.
The bigger question here is - does Mike want to have kids?
It's weird that they don't discuss that part, even though it's clearly important to Phoebe to be a mother.
In Phoebe's case, she's connecting motherhood and marriage in her mind in order to make up for her messed-up childhood. She would like both marriage and parenthood because from her perspective, she wasn't allowed to have parents that would give her that "normalcy" and she wants to fix her childhood trauma by having kids who get a good childhood with married parents.
Meanwhile, Mike has experienced marriage without kids and is hurt by having experienced how it feels when even that doesn't work out as a partnership.
Could these two people unite their lives while working out their clear personal issues , their past traumas?
Many people often get married while not understanding what marriage really is, or each of the partners has very different ideas of what it is - each of the two thinking they're all clear about it.
The thing is, marriage means merging your bank account with another person's bank account.
Their possible future gambling problem will be your problem.
It means you share property.
Different laws apply to you as a unit than the ones that used to back when you were single.
Marriage used to be a messed up transition from a father owning his daughter to 'selling' her as a property to a different man. a "dowry" was expected.
An amount of property or money brought by a bride to her husband on their marriage - that is a dowry.
Yeah, "normalcy" is something that Phoebe and Ross seem to think marriage is. Ross's marriage to Carol probably seemed "normal" to him. Meanwhile, Phoebe's lifestyle is supposed to be "alternative".
But ... "traditional" is something often very different for every generation.
A traditional marriage by some standards should be for example one man with multiple wives.
In Phoebe's day and age, marriage in the US in the early 2000s is of course more about two equal humans merging their properties. But what is it that she wants? Does she really need to merge her bank account with another person's just to be able to have kids and drive them to soccer games?
The discussion of what you want from your own life as well as from your relationship is indeed such an important one.
Do you honestly want to make your life all about raising a new human?
Do you understand how draining that is?
The risks of regretting it and not being able to go back to a person without kids, free to pursue other goals or enjoy more of a stress-free life?
Moreover,
Phoebe misses that her 5 friends, while not coming from homes as broken as hers, all had rather non-normal childhoods anyway.
Monica
was mistreated by her mother, felt less loved than her brother by both parents and unpopular at school, struggling with obesity.
Chandler
took hard the divorce of his parents and ended up with skewed views of LGBT+ people because of not being led to more understanding of his loving but unhappy father.
Rachel
was verbally abused and yelled at by a rich father who constantly bought her affection with expensive gifts and pressured her to only care about her looks and marry a rich guy, while not working and not being independent at all (and the same happened to her two sisters).
Joey
grew up with an unusually high amount of siblings, all sisters, an overly controlling grandmother, and, as mentioned here, not much protection against physical wounds and accidents.
Ross
was told by his dad he's not a real man for playing with dinosaurs, as he admits to Sandy and he was sexually abused by a 50year old woman, and then gossipped about while the woman faced no consequences.
Which of these childhoods were "normal"?
Poor Phoebe cannot shake the illusion that "normalcy" is something that exists and escapes her, even though the childhoods of her friends should clearly show her, that no life is "normal".
Sidenote .... Ross was divorced 3x, but what about Phoebe's divorce from the gay dancer in season 2 and then her mysterious wedding she implies she had in Vegas...? She's almost at his level...
(I get that they tease Ross for comedic value for the viewers, but it feels weird when people in real life try to mimic this type of "teasing". In real life, you would lose a friend like Ross - either he'd give up on you, or he would respond by teasing you back about the biggest trauma in your life and that could make you give up on him.)