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Avatar Bad | Episode 4

Hope you enjoy! Here's the Vimeo link, in case the embed doesn't work: https://vimeo.com/940895676/7b12bd68e2?share=copy

Also I'll be streaming tomorrow at 5pm Eastern time!! Hope to see you there!

Avatar Bad | Episode 4

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They really skipped the thing where Bumi's challenges led Aang to recognize him?!?!?!

Marissa Collins

I don't necessarily disagree, nor am I some kind of diehard Aang/Katara fan, but the show is definitely suffering from a lack of any believable bond between them- romantic or otherwise

mysticaldesign

I feel like so many moments in this show manage to just be watered down retellings and its just so bleh. Like this is somehow supposed to be the mature one for adults but they just say the same things all the time and characters seem one dimensional. Also those scenes with Iroh talking about just being a soldier give me maybe the worst vibes so far and I have no idea how that was able to make it to the final cut

Justin Chaillet

I mean I’m willing to defend them on this for season 1. Setting up a romance between these child actors this early would feel a little weird. I wouldn’t panic unless there’s nothing in season 2. In which case… RIP Tenzin I guess.

Violet

I have yet to watch the netflix series but a part of your video confused me so i wanted to leave some thoughts. Regarding the conversation Iroh had with the soldier, you said that iroh is in some way responsible for what his soldiers were doing in ba sing se, but he actually is directly responsible for the siege and by extention the death of Lu Ten. Unless they changed it in this one, Iroh was the general leading the assault on ba sing se, and it was him who ordered the troops to retreat once he learned of his son's death. This also makes me wonder if them connecting the memories of Lu Ten's death to the soldier saying "You know nothing about lost" to not be because both their deaths were equal and iroh actually is super cool and knows about loss or wathever, but because he was directly responsible for both these deaths and they were either trying to connect the soldier's pain to iroh's pain, or maybe the line was just kind of insinuating Iroh has not yet accepted his mistakes.

Miguel Marques

im really high rn and the glitching is scary. ur scaring me and it is flashing in my eyeballs. anyway great video

Lucky 21717

LITERALLY BUMI IS THE ONE IMPEDING THE SAVING OF THE WORLD BY GOOFING OFF WHAT IS HE TALKING ABOUT

Ellie Wilson

I feel like it's passable when he has all his clothes on but when he goes shirtless it honestly triggers an uncanny valley response in me lmfao

mysticaldesign

"There's not a moment where Aang has a good time on this show" same

El Mémé

I haven't seen the new show to know how much they might get into this, but I feel like a big part of the Lu Ten thing was how Iroh was personally responsible for his death. Like, he wasn't just a casualty of war, but of his father's imperialistic mission, and that's where Iroh's guilt over it comes from. I think that makes the "I was a soldier" line even worse because he's not only deflecting from killing that guy's brother, but Lu Ten as well.

Cate C

them reversing the cave solution so that the original is dumb and stupid is like Sherlock reversing the Rachel/Rache thing and thinking it's very clever

Novelyst

the makeup on bumis face is sooooooooooo bad he looks like a sausage

lyrium

The comment about how they went all in on Iroh with his son's song reminded me of the previous episode. Where we have the actual voice actor who did the Cabbage Merchant play him. That's a fun easter egg, that's cool. But because they knew fans liked that joke, they went all in and zoomed in and made it this dramatic moment of him screaming about his cabbages. They're throwing too much in at once and then everything feels messy and bloated.

Lynx Yolurkrovich

Can't wait for them next one already, take your time though Fast Joel

William Hately

The way they retooled the tunnel storyline to be about Sokka and Katara is feeding into my conspiracy theory that the writers are making Zutara canon in this version of the show (and also that this is one of the disagreements they had with the original creators). I have no strong feelings on Zutara, to be clear, it just seems like where they're heading with pretty much completely scrubbing Katara and Aang's romance from the show thus far.

mysticaldesign

So in this version Bumi is despondent and complacent because Aang abandoned him, and he's still bitter about that. I think that's workable as a plot, but to also remove Sokka and Katara from that plot is wild. Like Bumi's issue is Aang's apathy towards his friends. In the OG Aang could probably escape but he stays to save his friends, and his willingness to fight for them shows how much friendship means to him. But here they just... Show up? And that proves Aang doesn't abandon his friends because...? Like Bumi's issue isn't that Aang is bad at making friends, it's that he isn't committed to them. Did the writers understand their own story? It's like plot telephone. Like someone rewrote the Omashu episode so Bumi is bitter and someone else rewrote the cave of lovers to be about Sokka and Katara and then they had a comedy bit where the pages of the scripts got jumbled.

triggthediscovery

i keep seeing "In Partnership with Nickelodeon" in the thumbnail and being like "wait Big Joel is partnering with Nickelodeon to make these??" and then being like "oh wait no"

Johnny Robinson

With the way Netflix scrubbed Sokka's flaws (e.g., sexism, general weird lil guy vibes) and washed away the collateral damage of Jet's vendetta, I assume their entire goal is just to factory produce sexy Tumblr heartthrobs? But clearly they have not spent enough time on Tumblr or AO3, because Netflix Sokka and Jet are simply not problematic enough to get traction. You need redemption arcs! You need war crimes! You need gremlin behavior! The damn Onceler has more edge than these nerds.

Sylvie

If I hadn't already seen the original Avatar I don't think I could tell what the hell is going on here. Like, Bumi is mad at Aang because Aang doesn't care about saving the world even though he does and Bumi is the one who doesn't. Jet wants to assassinate Bumi for this and Katara acts like he's trying to kill a village of innocent people (which he was in the original). They seem to have thought they could pick and choose parts of the cartoon and mix them semi-arbitrarily together and somehow it would still make sense.

MJR Schneider

Thanks for committing to this series; I'm genuinely interested in this show from an analytical perspective, but I don't have the tolerance for engaging with mediocre media like you do. I sincerely love this project.

Stephen B Devine

#JetWasRight

Kim Heartfilia

I had to pause when Bumi and Aang just announced they knew each other and had no soft charming moment. Just straight time to kick this tweens butt

Lauren Smith

Still worse than the 2010 movie

James O'Neill

Big Joel, I've been waiting for this. Thank you so much

Tomo Reynolds

I'm so glad you love making this series because I certainly love watching it. (Also I appreciate that you include enough information for people who are not watching the show to follow everything you're talking about.)

Carolyn Barnes


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