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Final statеment about ai usage (outside of patreon)

Hello, friends! I really hope that most of you here are like that, with your own heads, able to think things through and draw the right conclusions from my recent "situation", which got out of control more than expected. Some people think that if I "dare" to make an animation using ai tools, thereby crossing the line of a deadly sin. Now I'm instantly bad person. And even "super-old" fans were instantly disappointed, as if to emphasize that all my past achievements have been burned down.

I will not make excuses here as if I made a mistake - because I did not make some sudden revelation about my opinion and beliefs. I believe AI doesn't replace "human creativity," but can be a supporting tool for help/learning, or just for fun without serious intentions. I'm interested in progress and don't see it as shameful to explore for the sake of curiosity/experimentation for personal purposes. I can also publish these results on my own public pages as things I created (or, if you prefer, as things a machine created under my "supervision"). They started appearing occasionally since 2022 as static drawings, then gifs, and now I've tried to make extended animation - which have become a stumbling block for some. Boom!

If this suddenly sounds completely unexpected to you, it's because such works have never appeared (and never will) on Patreon — they're considered by me unworthy of this place. Are they bad? Not at all, otherwise I wouldn't publish them "outside". And they get good enough feedback for me to make more once in a while. But their quality is far inferior to my main production, and they were created for my own amusement/distraction from my usual work, which I've been doing for nine years.

If you were saw the "reaction" on Twitter/X, I admit that I may have been too cold-blooded in blacklisting people who expressed much negative opinion about this, which is completely opposite to mine, and I don't want to have any connection with them. No one can "forbid" me from doing anything. But am I going to take this seriously and become an ai-artist? No. I'm mostly talking about people with an extremely aggressive opinion about AI, any interaction with which makes you an enemy of traditional artists. I don't post these things daily in hundreds, but I've "touched" - and someone can't stand it. I have a neutral-positive attitude towards AI, I have never hidden this and have no intention of pandering to the crowd. But I never abused it either. Although, there is an opinion that "animation" is already too high a level of progress, when AI can create thousands of frames in seconds, which would take a regular artist months. I can understand that some people are very upset that robots will replace them, but... this is the upcoming future, and I am calm about it. The demand for "human" products will never disappear, just as artisans did not disappear after the invention of the conveyor belt.

I will not include links to the video in question here, as it was not intended to appear here. This conversation would not have happened either, but I am forced to respond, as many people may be confused and not know the whole picture.

Having published just one video of not the best quality, which was simply a replacement for a common static drawing, only now "moving drawing with sounds" - someone thought that I exchanged my 3D videos on THIS. But THIS is just fun experiment with a new tool that I found interesting to try. It does not affect 3D videos in any way and does not take up time to create them.

Some people think that by doing so, I'm "stealing" someone else's work. If you want to know the details, all I did was use public open sites (Civitai and Grok) like a regular user, and everything I could do there appeared several times a year, like 1% of the total my production. I didn't create my own AI on my computer and feed it someone else's images. I have plenty of other things to do than waste time on such nonsense. Yes, you can also go there and make any content on inflation topic with your favorite characters. It's far from ideal by quality, but it is already common thing in our current times. And I'm certainly not saying that it's better than the work of real artists. It just "exists."

I hope I've answered in enough detail for you to judge my actions. If you disapprove of Ai and can't accept the fact that I can use it for personal purposes - nothing will convince you otherwise. If you're worried about what's "next," it's all as usual: 3D videos according to the usual schedule. This is the work that I put effort and quality into and that I am proud to present to you here in gratitude for your support. Everything else is extremely secondary material, which I sometimes want to do in my free time, but I never treated it as important to post here, where I have very high standards about paid content.

So it's up to you to decide whether I'm guilty of my limited sympathies for the AI, or whether every person can use the achievements of progress by their own free will on the public sites, that provide such an opportunity. And they are free to share it with anyone else, rather than timidly lurking in the shadows.

I just ask you not to start a war in the comments, regardless of whether you want to agree with me or write nasty things. I am sure that there will be no evil swarm here, since the people gathered here already have a sufficient opinion about me. Of course, I'm not writing this to convince you to stay with me at any cost "for the money". I know very well that many are envious of my success and will gloat if some people leave me. Money is no longer an issue for me, and you may already have noticed over last years that payment happening only during polls months, that is, four times a year. I think this is a fair amount for the amount of work that I do (and I work "at a minimum" since I'm kind of old creator and can't fully devote myself to this like in the beginning). But I will certainly be glad if most of you understand perfectly well what kind of person I am. I didn't instantly turn into a "villain" as some of the audience thought after I tried something new that I could never do on my own, and used new machine tools for it. And yes, I'll continue to do this, as I have for the past few years, exploring new things in this field for my own curiosity: I like robots and everything related to them, I don't see anything bad or forbidden in this. You'll could meet some of this results very rarely on my external pages, but you'll never see them here on Patreon. This place is only for exclusively MY own creativity - 3d videos which everyone is accustomed to, and which I have learned to do acceptably. As long as there are people without prejudice who like what I do, I will just keep doing it.

P.S.: This isn't my last post for the year, so I'll be back. I really hope these explanations were at least somewhat helpful.

Comments

Hello povi! I just want to say i’ve been a fan since i saw your first miku vid almost 9 years ago i think. I admire all the work you do and want you to know you bring something really special to the community. Do what you want! But just don’t forget what you’re capable of, you know?

HellstormBLAZER

You are a very talented 3D video creator. I've been following you since 2018, and I really love your work. Please keep up the good work!(This comment was translated using translation software and was not intended to attack anyone. Please forgive any misunderstandings.)

YJX Anlito

Thanks for the words of support.

imbapovi

Just do your favorite work and forget about those dummies, they just wanted to see you lose and beat you down so that they can make more rubbish. You are the only one who does breast expansion best. Love from a china fan.

Marisa

Thanks for the words of support.

imbapovi

sorry for the long ass comment, kinda rambled on a bit, but just know that u are still good in my eyes so long as u keep the ai stuff as a free thing and u keep doing ur actual videos

Foxtracker

tbh, so long as u aren't making money from it and it more personal work just for fun and u know full well that it not true art and just easy porn for fun then it fine by me. So long as u keep doing actual art like all the previous videos here on patreon and keep the ai stuff as nothing more than a fun toy for personal pleasure, then go right ahead. All i care about is seeing u continue to be a proper artist by simply doing actual work on a good product that has true heart and soul in it like u have done so in the past. Sorry about twitter being a shit fest, yeh they do have some justification but they are going too far for a lot of them rather than just being like me and saying that it a bad thing but so long as u never use it to replace ur actual art for good and continue to do what u have done so for years then it should be ok especially if u never make money off of it. The one thing I hate most about AI is that some replace true art entirely and actually make money off of it. I can agree it can be used to help improve art like an ai being able to replicate real life lighting for a art software where u can draw over to help ur original piece like having it to help shade a colored picture where u already did everything else and just need something to help know where ur lighting can be within the drawing so u can adjust and fix the drawing using that as a base. like having a procedural light in a 3d software such as blender to help create good lighting using an ai to help produce the light and adjust for things within the 3d space to produce highlights and shadows. I'll continue to be here and pray u stay safe and continue to do ur actual videos and just enjoy ai stuff as a personal pleasure toy even if u are sharing such stuff. heck even i enjoy the ai vid u released on twitter just because it was a cheap sexy vid that was not really art but still good smut. not as amazing as ur actual videos but still good smut.

Foxtracker

Thanks for the words of support.

imbapovi

Sorry i removed my first comment because i posted it before it was completed :p ( I don't know how to end a paragraph on my phone without sendind the message ^^' ). I love what you are doing and support you and your opinion of the subject. A the end of the day you are a human and do this because (as far as i know) you love this. You are not are slave, if you want to use it l, USE IT! If people don't like it that you use it for fun then they are free to unsubscribe. This was my opinion and support for you, Thank you for your hard work i extremely appreciate it :)

Zenix

Thanks for the words of support.

imbapovi

Seriously o get people hate the possibility of A.I. replacing humans but sheesh the tech is still no there yet ì mean it can come close but it’s still in the works and still obvious Whats human made and A.I. Made

SillyBrained

Thanks for the words of support. In fact, I don't even use AI to assist the 3D videos; they're completely "pure," which is why I post them on Patreon as paid content. That's why I inform supporters that their quality or quantity won't be affected in any way.

imbapovi

Thanks for the words of support.

imbapovi

Thanks for the words of support.

imbapovi

Thanks for the words of support. I'm not going to make ai-content my base, and I will never sell it - that's why I made this post-statement to give guarantees of faith.

imbapovi

Thanks for the words of support. I don't use AI in my hand-made videos - at least not the ones I post on Patreon - because I know this component unacceptable in paid content.

imbapovi

Then get lost you will not be missed

Alaxander

I couldn't care less about the AI. Just do you. Whether you use AI shouldn't really matter as you using it to ASSIST with your work. So in other words you have nothing to apologize for. If those people can't handle that they are the problem, if they think none of your past accomplishments mean anything now, it's not up to them. Keep up the good work.

Alaxander

Jeder möchte mal mit etwas herum experimentellen Zwecken aus testen dafür kann man niemanden verurteilen das liegt in der menschlichen Natur einfach Dinge auszuprobieren auch wenn andere diese abstoßen oder nicht gefallen bleibe man kann die ki hater verstehen etwas aber verstehe es nicht das diese dann ausfallend werden jeder hat schon mal was gemacht das andere nicht passt na und wenn es irgendwann mal die zukunft wird schaut man sich mit freuden die Entwicklung an und vorbereitet sich um besser als die ki zu werden von Qualität standards her zum Beispiel oder lernt damit umzugehen daran ist nicht falsch mach so weiter wie dir es gefällt wie sagt man so schön dein haus deine Regeln

Sasa

just do as much as you can by hand dude, as long as it doesnt interfere with regular content i dont care what you do in your free time. you wont be able to change everyones opinion, there are decent arguments for keeping ai out of artwork. im here for what your hands can create.

hiramaka

I am very well known of not being a fan of AI, and will always dislike the use due to the ethics of how it's been trained and developed. But I am also in a tech field where I have to learn how to use it for work. I think using it on the side and understanding how it works without impacting your paid pledges is the only way and best way someone can go about it. I understand the outcry but I also don't think you are necessarily in the wrong. If you were replacing paid support content with just AI I would stop supporting as well, but knowing this is a side hobby to explore what the tech can do, I can't really fault you. I may hate the technology in its current form, but I think this tech is unfortunately here to stay and necessitates at least understanding it at some level to future proof yourself.

Yes Man

Thanks for the words of support.

imbapovi

Thanks for the words of support. If there's a checkbox for AI content when uploading, I always check it. As for the animation, I wasn't trying to "disguise" it as something super serious by intentionally leaving it in an obvious state - just as demonstration that AI now know how to to animate inflation stuff. Far from ideal, but I had fun

imbapovi

Thanks for the smart criticism, and I'll clarify. AI is a tool. Let's say there's artist X, and some bad guy made an AI, giving it exclusively artist X's work to make a "exact copy." This could be considered "theft," even if the intentions were kind. By the way, someone made an AI, calling it "imbapovi-videos style," teaching it from my videos so it could create similar images. I don't mind, it's even funny. Some people are against it, and I understand that point of view. But when we're talking about hundreds and thousands, it's no longer something personalized. It's part of a natural process, which I accept as a given. The fact that the number of "artisans" is decreasing is also a given. But I'm not saying that robots will replace them completely. You probably know about natural selection. About competition. I'm not saying I'm thrilled about this. But personally, I'm ready for it. "I tried something new that I could never do on my own" is a bit overdone, but it's basically true: I wouldn't have spend time on those occasional drawings to make them from scratch, and I certainly wouldn't have drawn 2D animation. I simply wouldn't have taken it because it would have meant the end of current me and a complete cessation of activity.

imbapovi

I 100% agree with you on that. While A.I is certainly useful, nothing can replace the good old human creativity and that's what I love about videos like yours, they're so amazing, seeing how you make them so cool with your trail and error style. While I'm not a big fan of A.I videos, I'd never criticise anyone about them, since it's just pointless. Besides, just because you've experimented with A.I with this one video, doesn't mean you're switching to it. I know the kind of videos you create need to have a certain amount of A.I combined with human creativity to make it work. I'd say this experiment was useful for you to know how far A.I can go for your kind of video style, I'd say you should try and stick to what works best for you, no matter what anyone else says. I'm not criticising you at all, I'm just giving you my honest opinion as someone who really likes your videos.

Yoshi Dinosaur

thank you for your words of support. I don't set myself the goal of "learning something" in this regard. That takes time. I'd rather spend my time on something I already know well: 3D videos. But doing it constantly for 9 years turning into a routine. ai-tools are a way to distract myself, try something extra different. I have fun because there's a large element of unpredictability that I can't 100% control, a sense of surprise. However, ai-art is "second-rate" by quality, which is why I don't rely on it compared to handwork.

imbapovi

Thanks for ride but this is where I get off. It’s been fun, but I refuse to support the use of Ai in any way. See ya

Amaryllis#9

thank you for your words of support.

imbapovi

thank you for your words of support.

imbapovi

thank you for your words of support. This post is my final statement. Let everyone draw their own conclusions from here.

imbapovi

thank you for your words of support

imbapovi

I dont see a problem with using A.I just to exsperiment with it to see what it can produce and compare it to acutal art and see the process of it trying to make it real

Yuki

Personally my only issue with AI users is the ones trying to pass a 100% AI generated piece off as if they sketched the whole thing out themselves to put it on the same level as regular artists who put years of practice into getting their own style. That more than anything is a fundamentally dishonest approach. (Though a tool created by stealing 100s of works off the net without permission, but putting that aside). If all AI users came out and 100% of the time labelled their works as AI generated/assisted then it might not have as *much* of a blowback. The ones you posted on Twitter are obviously AI animated, and you have made no claim to them not being so, so I don't have a problem with them. They seemed like a fun experiment, and as you explained have no bearing on your regular content at all. So even less of a problem.

Doofwagon

I have a few thoughts on this statement. So I will get the positive first. First it is good that you provided a response to voice your thoughts on the situation. I am happy the A.I will not be replacing hand crafted works. However, I find it odd how you, as a creator, can say in one comment that you don't care about "Stolen Art" and then in a follow up comment say you disapprove of models being trained on an individual artists work. If it's bad to steal one persons artwork why is it more acceptable if its hundred of thousands? The method of theft is exactly the same. The statement that "human" products will never disappear just like how artisans won't disappear seems unbelievably out of touch. There has been such a drasticaly sharp decline in artisans and craftsmen due to the advent of modern manufacturing that many of Artisinal techniques literally died out when the old masters couldn't find new people to carry them on. Why, become an apprentice when you can just go to the factory and work on the conveyor belt. Is it not strange, ironic even, to look at what happened to artisans. Skilled and Talented people, priced out of their livelihood and craft due to the sheer volume of lower quality production, and want that to happen with human expression? But out of your entire response, this part "I tried something new that I could never do on my own" saddened me most. I don't know what it was that you posted but I don't believe for one moment the A.I spat something out that someone as talented as you could not learn to make

Trent Edwards

I hope that in the future you can laugh at this and your own actions. You say that you use AI for your own amusement/entertainment. I’m curious. Do you learn anything from using it? If so, I would love for you to share some of those lessons. And if not, I certainly hope that you learned something from the experience of sharing the AI and getting a spicy response from your own community. We all can be rather silly creatures. Cheers, and I wish you a happy new year!

Julia

The only time I have an issue with artistic generative AI is all these non-artists that are 100% AI-only content, and they're trying to sell it. I see nothing wrong with someone that's clearly talented and has been making content for nearly a decade playing around with it on the side. I personally enjoyed the little playful animation in place of a static image. People are far too bitchy and ready to just be outraged about anything and everything. I am glad you addressed it, and I'm glad that you're going to continue to do things that you enjoy, regardless of what the outrage mob jumps to being outraged about.

SeriousSam

As a former computer engineer, A.I. encompassed my entire career so i see robots and AI-generated text, images, and videos everyday using, you guessed it, IDEs and compilers. The very same compliers made by humans that are used to power architectures, art, and websites effortlessly. Now engineers are turning their attention to robotics, rewiring the machine brain, teaching an AI to walk, talk, and speak like a human. The tools for AI were already there, all it took was a little human innovation to say "hmm, how can i make this better?". If people want to make using new technology harder, go make cardboard cutouts and stop fighting what was already set in stone.

MRKFC93

People love to try cause controversy to make themselves feel better and like they’re the centre of attention. The problem with those people is that engaging in with them pretty much any capacity makes them feel like they’re justified in whatever they do. I personally hold a neutral opinion of AI, ultimately it is a tool and tools have no inherent alignment. A knife could be used to cut vegetables but it also could be used as a weapon. The thing that determines a tool is its wielder. But this is just another example of humans wanting to feel elevated by tearing down someone else and unfortunately social media allows those people who would be told to just be quiet in real life think they can say whatever they want without ramifications. My personal opinion is to simply ignore those people (easier to say when it hasn’t happened to you, I know) but engaging with them won’t really solve anything other than just drawing more attention to the situation and therefore more rumourmongers who are looking for another controversy to start. If the people do continue to spam and prove a problem then reporting or blocking them would be valid options. I wish you good luck with this and agree with your opinion about keeping the human made content free.

Herro

My opinion, AI is just a tool, the results it produces depend on the one who use the tool. If people can explore the possibilities of AI in a positive and optimistic way, they can also learn new things

Reivun R

thank you for your words of support

imbapovi

glad to see everyone go nuts again over this stuff......not........so long as you keep to your talents of animation stuff chap your all good, everyone's using ai for their own kinks anyway ..........they complain but will still use it themselves

Zagam

thank you for your words of support

imbapovi

I've never really used Twitter, but I don't see why the use of AI would be an issue as long as you aren't using it to do the grand majority of the work for you. That's the reason people don't like it when artists use it. It's lazy and takes no effort beyond writing a prompt, but that's not what you're doing. Ultimately, social media is full of people who ignorantly spew nonsense they know nothing about. You may not have been right to be rash with them, but I definitely understand why you were. Fuck those people. They're likely braindead anyway. Cheers to your future works.

Earth Machine Enthusiast

Thank you, exactly. My entire legacy is instantly "reset" if I do something "wrong" for someone. Although, it seems many people don't even know about me; they just came because someone big and important pointed a finger at me. Therefore, there is no point in me trying to convince them - I will express my position here, for those people who have the right to evaluate me.

imbapovi

I am grateful to you that you evaluate me based on real actions. I've made 600 videos, which is probably a lot. I don't know how many more I'll make (1000 would be epic). They can definitely become more and more similar... standard, simply because I can't repeat the same thing in a completely new way over and over and over and over again. But in this regard, I still strive to do everything I can at this moment - to show this to the people with whose help this continues.

imbapovi

Don't use Twitter and hence completely unaware of this. I pay for your work, and it's always been pretty solid stuff. Perfectly reasonably explanation of your point of view. Don't let the bastards grind you down for playing with some tools for your amusement. Like FFS, it's not like you have a years long library of content showing you've always made your own stuff.

John

Thank you for taking the time to explain your position so clearly. I really respect how open and consistent you’ve been about your views, and it’s obvious your core work and standards haven’t changed. Experimentation and curiosity don’t erase years of skill, effort, or identity as an artist. Anyone who’s followed your work for a while can see the difference between side experiments and the craft you put real time and pride into. I’m here for the 3D work you’re passionate about, and I appreciate the transparency and honesty you’ve always had with your audience. Looking forward to what’s next.

UnhingedRage

No, I must express my opinion in a more detailed and calm tone, instead of pretending like absolutely nothing happened. For some reason, many people suddenly assumed I'd traded/planned to trade my regular videos for low-quality ai things. Regular videos are created "here," and I'm telling to people, who indirectly creates these videos with my hands - that the situation with them remains unchanged. You're getting personal, as if you don't want to support me just because of my "behavior," even though the post is about products. Okay, remind me of other cases of this: "...your temper. This has been a recurring issue".

imbapovi

I honestly feel the exact same way about A.I., but you need to work on your temper. This has been a recurring issue. Throwing tantrums like this makes us all look like we’re just as bad for encouraging it. I get being frustrated about people being ignorant with the whole technology thing, I really do, but this is just blatantly childish behavior, regardless of the topic. Talking down to people like this and rubbing your Patrons’ naïveté in everyone’s faces, even on here when you get paid by all of us, is shameful behavior that I thought was beneath you. This is only going to get worse if this post gets out. I can’t justify donating if I know it’s going to be spent by someone irresponsible enough to lash out senselessly like this, and I know I’m not the only one. Not everyone is going to patronize you here and act like this was an acceptable response. You need to have some level of basic professionalism if you want to make money from what you create. Just delete this post and move on - it’s better for you, and all of us.

Scary Meunster

It sounds like I should be preemptively releasing a huge tweet of repentance, explanation, and assurance. "I'm about to drop an ai animation I made for fun today—sorry, excuse this devilish temptation." And the criticism, ha? Yes, there was some legitimate criticism, which I responded to, but the bad language, stupid memes, and other children behavior with clearly derogatory intent — all that is misguided filth i am not gonna tolerate. This is what I saw the most. "And judging from the quality of your work you haven’t been for a long time" - said someone who was on the second tier until recently. Thanks for this, but nevertheless: if the quality of my content has been low in your opinion for a long time, what did you expect by paying extra — that I would improve? But your tone sounds like you've been unhappy about something for a long time. Yes, I am not very pleased to hear such a comment from a long-time supporter. But it's okay that nothing lasts forever.

imbapovi

Yes, I may have been partly mistaken in not writing a long disclaimer beforehand... I'm probably too gullible in thinking that people won't take this funny, low-quality thing as something super serious.

imbapovi

You're exaggerating a bit about it being "great," but thank you! In fact, I strive to do "great" things with 3D video for people, while the occasional ai arts is strictly a side project for myself. But if it brings pleasure, then I did everything right.

imbapovi

Thank you! Luckily, I'm no longer at my "peak", but slowly, slowly, slowly moving into sunset. But until I am left completely alone, I will stay here a little longer! And I have the utmost respect when you're also by my side:)

imbapovi

Yes, I said it was an experiment. Yes, it went too far. But as you rightly noted, if someone is instantly ready to break loose and "get into the action," it's somehow difficult to consider them a "former fan." I guess they were always jealous/looking for flaws. And now they found a reason! I respect people who could say "imba, you did the wrong thing" and calmly leave. This is a choice based on different beliefs. But screamers are a different matter. Losing them is not a problem. It will even be funny if they continue consume my videos after all this.

imbapovi

That's pretty much what I said, but they were offended... And they were even more offended when I started blocking them: after all, it turns out that I'm their "servant", the producer of the content that they consume, and they can stop doing it - so I have to listen to criticism, the main point of which is that using AI is, in fact, evil. But I don't think so. (Of course, with this allegory I meant the most vicious part of the crowd, while I accepted and responded to logical criticism of animation itself, rather than the means of its creation)

imbapovi

I couldn't understand why people were saying such harsh things just because you used AI only once. I personally think that piece is a really great work "created by imbapovi." I'll continue to support and cheer for you from now on.

インフレーションボーイ

Yeah, I figured that out a long time ago - ai is part of life, and going up every year in hundreds of elements. You don't have to use it, but no one have right to stop you from using it.

imbapovi

Thank you so much for understanding my situation, especially as someone I've collaborated with in the past (as opposed to "some other" artist). Yes, it's like a wildfire, when the crowd smells blood... I was prepared for this; it's time to put everything in its place. Yes, if I publicly announced "from now on I'm an ai-artist because it's easier to do" / or for me to publish this for the first time ever - all the accusations would be true. Now I don’t consider them as such, since I didn’t do anything sudden and unexpected, just animation instead of static drawing.

imbapovi

Well even tho I might have said my peace somewhere else. I should probably say something here. I personally saw you not using Ai to profit which you stated isn’t even the point anymore. It just happens to be a byproduct of your hardworking before Ai. I been here since the first Miku expansion search that brought me to your first imiku video with her and the classroom. So I think I can safely say I been here through it all. (Side note I still pulling for that to get remade as well as first “slime Miku” video XD). Anyway I will continue to support not for Ai but because I want to see how the journey ends and be there to metaphorically shake your hand and see you off into sunset. Like all big careers you find bumps. This probably going to be the biggest one you get. However I believe in you to pull through. Lastly don’t be afraid of hate it comes for us all. Just have to take it in strides and prove you’re better than it.

RandomDudeGamer

You have the most accurate opinion. If you're a patreon user and you're specifically interested in 3D videos - they are the only kind of stuff that will be released here.

imbapovi

Well, technically, I don't make "masterpieces" with AI, but I wouldn't call it a "slop" either. These are average, rare experiments that I do for myself. Why do I publish them then? Because... I can. I am creator, and there is no law that controls this stuff. These are my pages. Of course, except for Patreon, since I already explained in the post.

imbapovi

Hey Imbapovi. I don't know if you still read these comments as it's been a few hours now and I didn't read your whole post but skimmed through it... but I have definitely seen the drama on Twitter... I really really hope you continue to make videos, it's been awful to see the reposts on Twitter and even the comments on this post!! The people on Twitter accusing you of "Monthly garbage videos and ai slop" and "not even being happy and proud of your work". There was an animator that I follow, that reposted your video and MADE A POST SHOWING OFF THEIR WORK, TRYING TO PROFIT OFF YOUR "MISTAKE" and LOTS of people were agreeing!! Not to mention all the people getting mad at you for blocking some accounts for HARRASING you. They could have said nothing and move on but they had to make a post and try to profit off this huge situation. I too would also block people that wrongfully attacked me. I 100% do not see a problem with you playing around with ai to make YOUR OWN DRAWINGS just move and animate. Ai is a tool, for free to use by anyone, even me. I've used ai before... just for fun and I was playing around with it, I find it interesting. People think ai is this illegal substance that should never be touched and all who use ai will burn to death... you simply made a girl's boobs go big... that was it. You made 0$ profit from it, it was harmless. It would be a completely different story if you made ai and asked people to pay for ai made videos. But you didn't, you just made a video. There were SO MANY people accusing you of dropping 3D animation and going completely ai and said "You fell off" or "irrelevant" and it makes me sick... Unfortunately this is the problem with being the #1 most popular inflation fetish animator... the bigger you are(pun intended) the more people will hate you. I'm sorry for of this unnecessary backlash.

Sasuke Uchiha

"Forbidden fruit"? Exactly people like you who dare to claim that something is "good" and something is "bad." Like, as a rule. For you, AI is bad, for me, it's not. And it's not anymore about the quantity and quality of use. The fact is: [you touched AI, you're an enemy/traitor]. Well, apparently I finally exceeded the "acceptable limit" of its use, which I was allowed for four years by "many artists". That's exactly what I'm explaining: if I've become undesirable in your eyes as a person, no matter what I did the rest of the time, no matter of my opinion - this situation becomes unsolvable

imbapovi

Unfortunately, you've described the future I aspire to. I'm all for AI to improve, to catch up with humans, and even surpass them (let's leave the conquest for science fiction films). I'm not talking about "drawings, music, text" in particular; I'm talking in a global sense. Of course, each component will also be improved. But since this will become widespread and accessible, which is a GOOD thing for me—things created by humans will be even more valuable. But you're talking about things that are too broad, although here I'm discussing my creative plans for at least the next year only — where the place for AI is the same as before. At a minimum. But if my ideology is so alien to yours—then you understand, I won't change my mind in a second.

imbapovi

Thank you!

imbapovi

AI is a good slave and a poor master. It's a tool, and meant to be used as a tool. People who freak out about AI are stupid.

Dragonchampion

Detailed comments are valuable, as they allow to express more thoughts. Thank you!

imbapovi

you too)

imbapovi

If they are angry at you for using Ai as a helping tool, all i can say is point at them and laugh right in their faces, they are not worth your energy and neither worth keeping.

Stalkirion

I don't care about you using AI. The people that get irrationally angry around AI or even more annoying than anything else on the internet right now. Ai is not going anywhere so they may as well get over it.

Illusory man

I had to ban someone from my server last night over this exact thing. They had a total crashout moment after I explained that you were just using the Ai for fun and casually shared it on twitter. They got really offended that I pointed it out to them and they acted irresponsibly in response, claiming that you were somehow still in the wrong and that by giving them further information was somehow attacking them. Honestly, these people can't be helped, I dont see how they can react this way or believe any of this when you've been making animations for so many years now without the help of Ai.

MikuMikuMadness

The way I see it, AI is gods gift to screw over insufferable twitter/bluesky artists, VA's, and localizers. Personally I don't care if you do or don't use AI.

Percent.92

I think most of the people were just mad because they thought it was going to affect the 3d animations.

PuffyLover1

This is a shocking take, especially from an artist. I would agree if Ai didn’t come from straight up plagiarism and stealing. I would have thought you as an artist would have been anti Ai, like so many others. I will continue to enjoy your non-Ai content, I will stay subscribed, and I am going to forget that this ever happened.

Balloon Toy

I see it just like you. Ai is a tool to be used. Good people make good stuff with it and bad people "slop". I use ai daily because it helps me and i learn so much since i started using it efficiently. I can understand that artist will have a hard time, but so will most jobs in the future. I didnt subscribed to you because you didnt use ai. Its fine if you do and keep exploring if you want to. For me its a "keep up the good work, and i am curios in what ways you explore and improve apon your work and self!".

Nico Ihle

you use ai ? Who gives a fuck let them cry

Schmandboi

Thank you for taking the time to write such a comprehensive comment. You've said many wise words, and people like you are exactly the kind of people I work so hard for.

imbapovi

You are an example of someone whose critical opinion is completely opposite to mine. I don't think I can influence you in any way.

imbapovi

I made the right choice to focus on 3D instead of 2D. I'd rather be good at one than average at two. "Stolen artwork" doesn't bother me. Everything that's posted online is publicly available, both for people and robots. Anyone can learn from this legacy. I'm fine if my works serves as the basis for future AI's. But when I do it manually, I can control every element. This is the difference

imbapovi

Yes, I also feel confused about people who are okay with posting ai pics with six fingers, three elbows, etc. Bad raw stuff. Well, it must have been a long time ago, since the models are much better now. I don't really follow this topic very closely; I just have fun playing with generation sometimes.

imbapovi

Idk man, it just seems like you're ignorant. You know AI is this forbidden fruit that many artists despise, but still you took a bite of that fruit. Now are arguing with everyone about it and trying to justify its use in your works. Its just small things you claim its used for but know each time it's used you lose more credibility.

Sexybear911

I'm okay with people not liking AI. But I don't force-feed my viewers with it every day, and never posted on patreon. Yes, my reaction was also excessive, as some people immediately concluded that I am bad and that I disappointed them in a single moment. So they provoked me to be extremely disdainful of their words (balcklist)

imbapovi

I'm of the opinion that paying for ai stuff isn't fair. I'm not against it, but rather, why would people pay someone for ai when they can create something themselves? That's why my main work is done entirely by hand.

imbapovi

Yes, it all depends on how people use it. I use it sometimes, I don't hide it. But I don't base my content on it.

imbapovi

thank you

imbapovi

Time passes, everything changes. When I started using AI, we had a conversation with Mabo where we came to completely opposite opinions, both of which were correct. I accept his point of view, but I believe I'm also right. That's where our kind of "friendship" ended. I thought it was a serious end. But when he just now wrote a lie about me, claiming I'd deliberately used his drawings exclusively for "my AI," it was so disgusting that, yes, I blocked him and hope to never hear anything about again. It's too late to explain anything, since I know very well that this person is on the very opposite side of the issue regarding AI. "I'm going full Ai" - is nonsense invented by outright ill-wishers, judging by one work. If I had posted a few drawing as usual, nothing would have happened. But animation - is it a disturbing omen? Yes, I deleted the tweet with "experiment explanation" because it served its purpose and was relevant at the time of publication. Why let it hang around forever? I won't delete the video. An overreaction - yes, but at least I was sincere. Those who overly judge or even hate me for sympathizing AI - make me feel the same way to them.

imbapovi

There are AI tools that assist in creation. For example tweening. I don't think anyone looks at that with any malice. Or "enhancing" something to 4K/60 fps, even if it DOES look like garbage 99.999% of the time. It's inherently harmless. BUT, if you're using AI to "curate" something from the ground up, then that is crossing a line. It's not creating something from nothing. It's stealing designs from people that have already put in the work and then in turn training that AI to create better and better things. You saying that AI will not replace human made art is just not grounded in reality. The majority of the population will look at AI slop in 2-3 years and will not be able to tell the difference between real and fake (Hell, even I struggle sometimes even now). In 2-3 years it's most likely going to be indistinguishable and then all the giant corporations are going to gut their creative sectors all to replace them with 2-3 AI slop producers. All the animators, artists, actors, music designers, sound engineers, etc. All of them will not have a job just because billionaires want to save some more money. Not to mention the MASSIVE environmental impact, future deforestation, and removal of farm lands... It's just not ok to use AI to produce slop """art""". There is no middle ground like "I'm just doing it for the sillies. I'm not making anyone pay for this" unfortunately it's not a victimless act for reasons I explained above. I don't have Twitter anymore so I don't know what you're referencing. But, if you are producing AI slop """art""" then you should stop. Not to appease the crowds, but because it's the right thing to do for the future.

Commander

Thank you for your hard work! That must have been a disaster, getting caught up in a bunch of people who can't do anything but yell. 💧 As someone who always looks forward to your work, I think you're just trying out a new tool called AI, so you don't need to worry about people getting all worked up over it. Overuse isn't good, but as long as you use it responsibly, it's fine, so I hope you continue to develop your work and explore new techniques. ♪ I'll continue to support you!

うるふ

This isn’t about AI, for me this is about you. If you want to use AI and casually make stuff you enjoy, then do it, I can’t stop you and don’t care to stop you. But the way you acted before and now is terrible. Criticism is a part of the gig as an artist, and if your gonna spit back at people and blame them for it, then your not much of an artist anymore. And judging from the quality of your work you haven’t been for a long time.

Conyoudigit

I've been following your work for a long time. You were the one who made me embrace the world of MMD, and the beauty of your content is that you've always experimented, trying to bring a breath of fresh air even just by adding small details. You could have kept doing the same things over and over, but instead you chose to experiment and always try new things. The topic of AI right now is a concept that scares many people—it's a situation that, if you stop to think about it, has happened several times throughout history. Anyway, I hope you won't let yourself get discouraged and that you'll continue to express your creativity with whatever tool you decide to use. P.S. Sorry for the long text and maybe poorly written—I'm not great at English XP.

Morsadella

I love your work no matter what tools you use or whatever, haha. I mean cause I know little about all the artsy stuff anyway. Its some really hot animations you make. Good job. You're the best 👌 🙂

Brian

Now, I'm not a "lives online kinda" girl so im not exactly privy to all the gory details here but I can read between the lines and I've seen and been the target of internet drama before. First and formost unlike the people who come at you, you always have to remember that we are all real people, including yourself. You have a job, deadlines, a workflow, and in your case specifically an ever challenging escalating task of making woman currently usually already extremely curvy, into even more flamboyantly curvy look interesting by the end of each month. That's the job, that's literally what people are paying for and what you successfully do. There is an ever emergent solipsism online of mental illness meeting at the junction of arrested development. Where wild accusations become a drug for one such person, and in a group, my god it's like hot boxing. (That's when you make the car have drug smoke so everyone gets high for our unaware.) Point is, in each and every witchhunt, the sad chase a pathetic conclusion over meangless prizes. The pretty online woman doesn't want to have sex with you? Must be a man. The beloved youtuber fails to put out an exciting video of the history of cheese this week? Must be a hack stealing content. And in your case "what do you mean not every 3d sequence of basic anime models of women getting bigger tiddies isn't handcrafted from mountain spring water from the center of the earth!? The cur!" There's just zero self reflection on what the person's actually pissed at, which is themselves. And you, you're a real person too, with emotions and feelings and you get to be a human in this life too. I've been there, trust me dragging out evidence does nothing except dox you. Apology videos make idiots feel justified. While articulate and well balanced. We aren't even owed your explanation here. You get to make what you want, how you want, we pay or not based on our own whatever. That's the reality of how it all works. And hell I personally deeply dislike ai but reading that you're getting shit for it had ne rolling my eyes at the sheer absurdity. It's like someone thinking every spray can of cheese needs to have come from a cow. But again, that takes a little bit of self awareness from your accusors and that is kind of the root of these issues. Thanks for making these fun videos, I have fun watching them. Sometimes they're hot, sometimes they make me laugh, on rare occasions a little column a, a little column b. But you don't owe anyone else an apology for providing them. I hope you have a great holiday. See ya next year.

SmugLesbian

You are still stealing from other people and training AI for other people to steal. Public AI is trained on stuff scraped from other artists.

NackV

I've just been disappointed that you've stopped drawing yourself in favor of AI BTW the public AI models use stolen artwork for training data

PoGu

I have always seen it as a tool to help, and I think that was the original intention of AI, to help those who needs a quick guide to what they want to so. I used to use it before I decided to put my mind to test, it is really a useful tool to help, and I hate how some people will exploit it. If you use AI for personal things, I'm alright with that, nothing wrong with that, so ignore those who are trying to paint a bad light and continue with what makes you happy

Marker Animations

I admit when I saw the post I was a bit concerned but as long as it’s just simply for aid with smaller things and your still putting full effort into things I suppose that’s fine -v-👍 and I feel like everyone may have over reacted about your post but I can understand their concerns about AI

Dr.Bones

I going to say this if this help you then use it, AI is still a tool to use if you need help with some frames or other things, I can understand that MANY artist don’t like to use AI but it depends how it is used. Just keep what you doing I love your work and I will not leave just because you use AI as a help tool.

Dragonman32

I'm not going to "pump out more content" content using AI just to make things easier. It's exactly cheap and disrespectful way to use these tools. But yes, I'm having fun experimenting with it and sharing some of the results i am satisfied with (outside of patreon). I just believe, there are majority of people like you - instead of who come at me with pitchforks and torches just because "he touched ai"

imbapovi

For me AI is both good and bad so it depend of what the futur will become with AI to see if it totally black /gray/ white ( yin and yang) but for now i think the general use of AI is bad BUT their is some good stuff made with AI AND supervision so it will really depend of how you will use it

mathieu meissel

You blocked a bunch of people including Mabo who you've done content with all for either asking why or hoping you wouldn't go full Ai. You then proceeded to delete the tweet where you claimed it was an "experiment" after receiving so much backlash. You've been deleting comments on DA and making hostile or passive-aggressive comments towards anyone who doesn't fully support you Ai. It was a severe overreaction.

Akeno Himejima

I've been here for years and your work has always been amazing. Keep it up and just ignore the Twitter maniacs. They're not worth it.

Anyu Cry

You are fucking awesome. This is the best take abo it AI I've heard in ages. Dont stop doing what you love, and if something makes your life easier and helps pump out more content? USE THAT SHIT! Ive followed your work for years and thats not changing any time soon. Keep it up!

Ayden Stevens


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