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Vague Death Threats + Huge Update

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Vague Death Threats + Huge Update

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Hello Cofizilla, Here are my two cents: (thoughts on "creating more spoilers and patreon early access content") As an idea, introducing the investigations to patreons ahead of time is all nice and idealistic, but it could compromise the result... the people who are being investigated could get ahead of you that way. There might be some nice "behind the scenes" insights worth sharing related to shooting / communications around the investigation / studio building / learning a new craft for a new project etc. which might not be directly linked to the facts and findings of the case. But to me it doesn't seem to be worth it to potentially compromise the success of the mission only because of an attempt to validate patreons who mostly support you regardless based on the established honest character brand. P.S. Personally I haven't even checked patreon before you published the video today. And also, I can only speak for myself, but I didn't subscribe because I wanted something out of it apart from you to keep doing what you have so far.

Michal Řeháček

Yeah I’d like to learn more about the investigations as you discover them!

Jordan Kertesz

I would love to see more things, but after the investigation is done. Like cut content, or even commentary on difficulties and problems you ran into. I believe you have more to lose if you end up revealing stuff early, and then we will all lose. Keep up the amazing work!

Leugim Said

I would love to have details maybe things that get cut

Luis Liz

GIVE US MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRREEEEE! :p

Ashmaniak's Asylum

Also we NEED a video of you and your bartender driving in the lambo

Ryan Harrison

My thoughts are just to lean into more vfx stuff on the patreon in order to preserve the integrity of the investigation

Ryan Harrison

Also please tell us everything about the investigations.. I am addicted to it lol.

CMARIE

We love you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CMARIE

Would love to see updates on the investigations. I know we are helping support longer form investigations - knowing more in that would be enjoyable for me.

Brad Sherlag

Stay safe. Take your time. We love you 💖

Jinette

Would love to see scene breakdowns and commentary after the main video is out! The videos are so good that they should stand alone. Thanks Mr. Freezeman 🤣

carlos

unbelievable how easy it was to find your last name if it even is as publicly displayed

robert james

what colour is coffee's lambo...? its green

robert james

This content is definitely worth the wait, but you should do reaction videos or commentary videos that are low effort on another channel or something. Some of the og content like the sharktank reactions

Mike Wold

Would love to see a little bit more but obviously we know you're super busy so take your time! Blatant crypto scams are much easier to expose than this 3 billion-dollar scandal so I'm totally fine w the progress. Super excited to see everything going forward Mr. Freezeman

Anders Rosenquist

Good job man, but a little bit more content will do...

Adrian SI

You do you BRO, that's why I am here! I will watch the full episode regardless of spoilers. I enjoy the little updates, even the unedited, edited, doesn't matter to me.

iot-root

Would definitely enjoy learning about investigations along the way, would be super cool to feel like we were participants along the way

William Peter James

Thanks for the update. I prefer to learn about the investigations when they come out. Looking forward to the next series of videos.

Ben

Ceiling fan exposed! Mind blown! :)

Jiri Knopp

To me, it's not about spoilers, it's about thoroughness and due diligence. I wouldn't want you to get ahead of all the buttoning up of the facts just to give me "content." I don't know your process, but I can imagine you're requesting comment from your subjects up until the eve of launch if necessary. The quality of your deep dives and high standards of conduct are why you're my only Patreon follow. Happy to wait until it's done.

Christian Hubicki

cool music, cool lambo and happy just to know your alive and well with an rough eta eg next month, next 6 months for your next video. Keep up the good work.

Josh Foti

Concern troll.

Alt-Daemon

Full disclosure, I'm not necessarily here for the Patreon content, so I'd understand if my opinion is of lesser value. (I think the technical behind-the-scenes were cool af, and I would love to hear more about the creative process and world building. To me, knowing about the kind of detail going into the setting helps me better engage and appreciate the storytelling and I think there's a ton of opportunity to still explore there. So about small updates with facts of upcoming videos, one concern I'd have is if you sharing information before you have the whole package might put you in a strange situation where you're now having to manage things that you say "unofficially" here—versus when you have the whole script written out. I'm sure you'd cover yourself with regards to legally-appropriate language, it's just my opinion that it would be more prudent to build out the whole case before "showing your hand", per se. I don't think you'd be irresponsible or frivolous, but better safe than sorry. I know what it's like doing a lot of work behind the scenes and not being able to really share much with the people who would be most interested. I just think with regards to the facts of the case itself, it's one of those things better delivered only when fully prepared and the diligence due'd.

UN Owen

I don't mind spoilers, but I appreciate what you do and how you present it, so if you want to hold back info, that's perfectly fine too!

Jackalgirl

Everyone knows the steering wheel is the most important part of the Lambo, so you’re cool

Tanya Dixie

Just as long as you are keeping safe😐. If you don’t get round to the studio tour, I would be happy to just meet your dogs 😇

Tanya Dixie

I would love to see spoilers as soon as you find it

Stoff

I agree with the people saying no to post investigation info prior to release, not for spoiler reasons but for journalistic integrity. It’s unfortunate that Patreon exclusives don’t necessarily stay on Patreon and that info leaking could cause a whole host of problems for you. The process is difficult enough as it is, no reason to get in your own way. Extra content after a video is launched would be fun, and you could space them out to make the dry seasons between videos more bearable, but anything you decide is fine. Stay safe and don’t let the ponzi scenes get you down.

Renee

More info the better; sooner the better.

Kiwi Tau

Meanwhile, in a law enforcement building somewhere, somebody got this in their email updates and is currently pulling up arrest warrant forms from their drawers.

Aaron Woo

The sooner we get updates the better. I don't mind spoilers one bit

Christos Tsounis

I honestly didn't join for perks, I joined to support you. <3 No need for more on this end.

Not Quite Franky

When I hear talks like “When you actually make money blah blah blah it’s really easy blah blah blah” I feel like rolling my eyes because what people presume to be “serious guys talks” usually are not. It’s kind of like “the more you say the smaller your penis actually is”

Burr

He want to take down Steven Bank Friedman ! That the next level SBF.

Abdelkader Boudih

The irony of a Ponzi scheme investigation doubling everytime you dug deeper did not escape me 😂

Paul H

I think I would enjoy hints and updates on the content, but not full blown spoilers because I would rather have the whole thing finished, and not having you make progress videos and diverting resources from making the main investigating video than to do spoiler videos. I am pretty patient as a Berserk fan, so Yeah.

Canyoueventakeit

If the threat you they threat all a of us😠

Adnan Najamy

Spotted who it is from some analysis of this video, your fans are also now turning into detectives 😆

Gary Woodhead

I wouldn't share investigation details before they're done. Not only could it make your job harder (nefarious individuals may subscribe just to keep track of whether or not you are looking at them and what you know), but if you release info that turns out to be wrong because it's still under investigation, people might not see the corrections and spread misinformation. I would stick to completing it and releasing a bit early for patrons.

BrandEver

OMG! Please take these threats seriously. Don’t share more, it’s enough already! You’re incredible but please stay safe!

Fernanda Alario

i'd love to see stuff earlier here!

Samuel Knobel

Hey thanks for the update! Can't wait to actually see the result of your work! As for the updates/spoilers, as long as it is nothing that could hurt your investigation and you mark it as spoiler for the people that just don't want to be spoiled, I would love to get details as they unfold! Otherwise Updates like this one are cool as well and as suggested above already a patreon live stream where we all just hang out and talk would be super cool! Stay safe mate and I am so happy to be a part of your Patreon!

Sadler Patrice

there are postal services ;) so you could make props for him still ;)

Sadler Patrice

I would love to make lambo props for you. Too bad we live on different continents

Precious Cinnamon Bun

No spoilers, as that could jeopardise the investigation, or at least extend it with reactionary updates. This update was exactly what I was after, also learning more about the process and how the pieces come together would be great; so updates on the process; which can be as regular or as detailed as you'd like; for us it is a behind the scenes look of a modern day investigative journalism studio; it is essentially recruitment.

Benjamin Lupton

As for exclusive Patreon content, share your life with us! Just simple things, like a Patreon live stream just chatting about movies and music and video games and stuff. A let’s play of Cyberpunk 2077 would be rad, stuff like that.

Jessica Jeffery

I’d for for you to film a podcast every so often with amish. We need the OG drip back baby

Miles

Personally, I love these short, unreserved, raw updates and there is no need to drop any findings from your investigation that could jeopardize your work in any way. Just you sharing the lambo steering wheel already put a smile on my face. While I love to support the Coffeezilla journey, it's these raw updates from Stephen that make me feel like being part of the process all along.

Benny

Honestly - we want to hear what ever you want to offer in flow. You are great Thank you for this. Best of luck and excited to see more

Kevin Mackey

Be careful. Crypto was home for Organized Crime long before it mainstreamed and $3B worth of pain will afford a response. Be sure you keep law enforcement updated and have offsite backups. Look up Mt Gox - those people are not to be trifled with. The people you have nailed thus far are pretty dumb amateurs in the scheme of things. The big boys have shell companies that disappear, pass-through accounts, cross jurisdictions and are experts at washing away trails. I truly think there is major gaming of the system within the "legitimate" capital markets as well. Hell even countries are looking into it as national currency as some - like Argentina - raise their interest rate to 97% today. Be safe.

Dennis Fahey

Don't share anything sensitive until after you're done with the investigation, methinks -- best to guard your info until everything is out in the open. Then you can show us all the behind-the-scenes, cut content, and anything else you want to share (and I'd be happy to see it all! Your content is worth the wait, don't even sweat it. Just be safe and keep doing the good work. In the meantime, you could perhaps share less sensitive content-- "here's something I got for the studio thanks to your donations" is a common thing I see. If you want to get more personal, people seem to universally enjoy pet photos; perhaps you could show a snapshot of your workstation once there's no more sensitive media laying around? Whatever you do, it will be appreciated, so go with your gut. Stay safe, Coffee!

Rox

The music sounds awesome, please upload to streaming services like Spotify when it is finished! Regarding spoilers: I do not mind a few small, but no big ones. What is sufficient for me is getting regular updates about how you are doing, if you are working on something and if so, when approx. is the content coming out. I'd rather you share less to prevent leaks, spoilers and also the investigation being negatively affected. I really just wanna know that you're ok and that investigation is ongoing. 😅

Aurelia Alessio

CZ Friedman

Sarah Watson

Love you Mr. Freezeman

Sarah Watson

Strike the steel while its hot

Alex Pitzel

I think the entire audience deserves the whole story of the investigation, not just the paid subscribers. Patreon is at its best when it's more about how sausage is made, and that can kind of content can come afterwards.

Warren

Definitely agree with the quality over quantity thing, but that can only be done with a secondary source of income like Patreon or just having a job. That's why we're here! I'd also really like to know about the journalistic process, it's definitely one of the things that sets Coffee apart from other channels with similar content.

Bruno Yorda

I would love to have access to all the info as it's happening, but like Daniel mentioned in a previous comment, that has a very high chance of getting you exposed before the investigation drops. I'd prefer things like full uncut interviews and outtakes AFTER the release. Stay safe! I'd like to think those sketchy characters you are investigating would never go through with their threats, but one never knows... Thanks for the update, loving the Lambo :D.

Bruno Yorda

I appreciate creators who prioritize quality before quantity or speed, especially when doing investigate reporting. Thank you for getting that right. Even though I can't wait to see the final product, I'd be willing to wait another 2 months should you feel you need that to deliver a quality product. EDIT: as to your question to what to put on Patreon: I like to see behind the scenes stuff after episodes aired, or things that did not make the final episode because you already had enough of that particular type of content (example: victim stories) or it just did not fill well with the structure of the episode. Not a fan of already 'spoiling' things about future episodes. Since I believe during that whole creative/ journalistic process you need to be able to focus on the work itself, instead of already doing these mini episodes/ reports for us. I'm also interested in you geeking out about explaining your journalistic process a bit. I'm personally less interested in the VX stuff, but would love to see you go in depth into that other big aspect of what makes your channel so great for me: the research/ journalistic process. (comment also on Youtube)

D

Love this video update. Thanks a lot! I personally wouldn't mind getting bits and pieces of updates on stuff that you are working on.

Nick Frimpong

Don't leak anything to us. We will enjoy the content in whole when it comes out. The reminder that you are working on new stuff is plenty for me.

Keaton Law

I personally love the behind-the-scenes on the whole thing, but you do you! And above all, take care of yourself. <3

Kat Kingsley

thanks for the update. stay safe!

Uncle Matt

I want all the content so that means all the spoilers. But if it would in any way sabotage the investigation then I don’t want it.

Adam Murrell

Studio tour definitely needs to happen :)

Coffeezilla

Thanks Alastair!

Coffeezilla

Don't share anything before the video drops. I feel like the trade-off of insight/entertainment isn't worth it if it shows your hand.

Chris Leroux

If I where you I wouldn't post parts of investigations before you posted the final video. If you do that someone will scoop you. As much as would like the updates don't tell us to much.

The Last Scientist

Would love a tour of the studio & the lambo idea sounds cool, you should definitely create a logo for pump the stock & make some merch, I still have the $Zilla tee from way back when. But in regards to the updates, I would like some occasional updates but nothing too revealing, more like if you stumbled upon a bombshell etc, especially getting your reaction to it all. But keep up the good work bro, staying tuned for the episodes.

Humberto Muñoz

Do not leak anything.

Sharon Rogers

Hey Coffeezilla, personal opinion i would love to know more as frequent update. Just based on what you are doing and if there is any and i mean any risk involved for you just by doing that, you shouldnt do that. best,

Alexander W.

After the series drops, I’d love to see more that didn’t make it in. Also more on your investigative process.

Matilda G.

lessgooooo, glad to have helped you out in the sound dept

Paul Kang

I say no leaks. These update videos are good enough in the mean time. It gives it much more hype and makes it worth it for us viewers.

Lissette Arroyo

New music sounds good! And I rather prefer to wait, the “wow” factor is bigger; we know you are working on stuff, I prefer to keep the surprise!

Teo Roldan

You’re doing great work, Coffee. Keep up everything.

Eric Alexander

Personally I contribute because you are doing important work that I want to support - the patreon content isn’t so important to me (it is nice to get the videos a day early though). I would happily pay more if there was an option. Keep fighting the good fight 💪

Alastair Cooper

Digging the song think it'll go well with the atmosphere of the 10 million dollar studio.

Victor

Maybe hint drops at the end of the videos, something like a silhouette and/or a voice clip that's not too revealing, hints into the company's history, something like that

jsaint413

Yes it’s a tough balance, this is precisely my only thing holding me back. Is that it’ll leak and the associated parties will delete evidence or react.

Coffeezilla

Yeah exactly. I’ll have to do something like this. I just hate on longer investigations like this having to leave you guys for so long without much content.

Coffeezilla

cool name if you ask me.

Coffeezilla

You should 100% keep your video content close to the chest and not even reveal anything to even Patreon until your video release. Your investigations have become so important that you can't reveal what you're working on early.

Jessica Jeffery

I Hope Coffee’s head doesn’t get too big, now that he got himself a lambo.

Tohir Tillyaev

Two weeks for stuff to roll out? Sounds like a great birthday gift!

Elisa M.R.

I would love ongoing updates. It's great seeing your work progress.

Chris A

Thanks for the update, coffee! Sounds crazy already-- looking forward to watching your investigation unfold. Also, I'm terribly curious, so as long as it doesn't ruin anything for your work or case, I'd love being "in the know" as you go along with investigations. I'm sure I'm not alone in that, lol. Thanks again!

Cassie Scott

I don't mind the spoilers. But yea, I could see the downside to the leaks as well.

David Hamilton

Re: your question about kind of content on here: Maybe just some bonus content after the initial release? That avoids the spoiler issue. Also I'd be concerned about the opposing parties learning things about the investigations if you're sharing them on here early

Steve Vermeulen

Nice shirt!

Jeffrey Jackson

I don't think its a spoiler if you give us insight before the actual posting. But hell, show what you think would be interesting. That's why we are here.

Bernard Saturday

A CoffeeZilla mini-series? And a Lambo Driving simulator? I know we're all down for that.

Phil Sowers

Mr Freezeman aka ColdBrewzilla

Tobias Müller

I am a thousand percent for waiting on quality content versus instant lowball videos. Thanks so much for working so hard and I’m sorry these things are happening! Don’t rush and keep up the good fight. Super excited to see what all you have in store - looks fantastic!

Marie Owen

Huge update!!!

Joshua Duarte


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