PODCAST 20: Dr. Etienne Van Zyl, Project Coast, and Methaqualone

This was an amazing podcast 👏

Norby

Love your take on how when the government stays out of policing the drug trade it’s a good thing and not necessarily a conspiracy. For those of us who still can’t resist the sensationalism of strange bed fellows like the government and drug traffickers, Seeds of Terror is a very timely book on the subject as it deals with the opium trade in Afghanistan.

Rod Paulsen

he obviously knew that he would be taken care of if he was laughing in court..... indicating he knew something about how the project came to be

the premise is just crazy

Quinine gives tonic water its bitter taste, also used to treat malaria.

Thanks for the company on a 50mi bike ride! I found myself thinking of other semi-isolated ecosystems like Galapagos and Australia and the oddities they breed. (Even besides their modern human population.) Does North Korea manufacture and deal drugs, or just ransomware?

Chris Newport

*tenuous* perhaps, i.e. circumspect

Chris Newport

If it was an organized program to create a depressant addicted population from nothing, as opposed to a convenient side-effect of illicit fund-raising, it would really only be notable in its directness. No shortage of examples of addiction and other blights being allowed or even encouraged to run rampant. I see your healthcare disparities and raise you the education system! It's all woven in so thoroughly it's hard to say where the line falls between negligence and oppression.

Chris Newport

You mentioned the Adam Curtis doc "Cant Get You Out of My Head" and its handling of the Opium Wars in the intro without really elaborating. I found the documentary to be very powerful. But your comment instilled some doubt, do you think Adam Curtis was suggesting crowd control was intended by the British and subsequent governments? When it was more of an unplanned (but convenient) by-product of trade (this is how I interpreted it). Or something else? On the subject of chemically induced crowd control do you think it worth taking Curtis' doc with a pinch of salt? It covers so much ground that I would really appreciate an expert's interpretation on an aspect of it! Thanks really loving these podcasts!

Not to be a tin foil hat conspiracy theorist but can you imagine all the different times and ways people/governments have used crowd control measures. Not just the tear gas, batons etc. Like you mentioned but longer acting more insidious ways. Heck, I could just guess one thing is not giving us affordable, quality Healthcare here in the states. Or like other illicit substances to keep us from having the strength to stand up for ourselves. On and on. I know you like to only deal in facts Hamilton but my mind runs wild and I don't think it's too much of a conspiracy thinking that these type things happen often.

This has to be one of the most interesting things I’ve ever listened to. Dr. Van Zyl is SO tedious about the words he chooses in response to every question. I can’t help but feel that he’s leaving a lot of information out of his responses, I love it.

You could do some podcasts with out guest. You seem to have enough to say in the intro and that would keep us entertained and off your case about new episodes ;)