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This episode deserves an award, this was the directors first time and she did amazing. Really captured the anguish of repeated baby attempts failing, not only how hard it is on gemma but mark seeing her go through it and how it's effecting him. The editing was great. Loved it.
Kami
2025-03-12 04:26:23 +0000 UTC
I’m following along Genevieve so I appreciate your long explanations now that I’m caught up I can read freely between the two of you
Rock Lee
2025-03-12 01:33:16 +0000 UTC
Since the Eagans and the board don't view the innies as humans, I don't quite lean towards the idea of them looking for the essence of the soul - even if they technically would present it as such to their believers.
For me the characters that follow the Kier lifestyle chose not to go through with severance, including those in charge of the severed floor, hence why the innies are viewed as sub-human, the un-severed believers are too special/superior to sever themselves or only do it in certain situation, such as the governor's wife who saw childbirth as below her and made her innie go through it instead.
I see the innies falling along Freud's theory of personality, and the innies being an equivalent of the id. An example would be Helly's fight or flight response in episode one. Her innie is reacting based on pure instinct. You can then view the outie as either the ego or superego controlling the id (the innie), along with Lumon.
So the huge question mark for me is, what are they trying to study through Gemma's innies when each room doesn't seem to take into account multiple factors that can influence the results (hello from someone in the field of social psychology! and my apologies for this passionate response). I'm putting myself in the place of a Lumon researcher here, and all I can see is why aren't they controlling for X Y Z, it's skewing your results!
Genevieve
2025-03-12 01:30:48 +0000 UTC
I think they’re trying to get a baseline on who “someone is”. All those scenarios are traumatic or stressful in some way in order to find the overlap. Those scenarios and that trauma affects you, but if you isolate all of that “life experience” into a few buckets meant for “happy numbers” and “scary numbers”… they can probably figure out how the “soul” is encoded, eventually. Once you know the code, you can write your own program… and possibly “design” someone according to some mythical ideal.
Imagine if you had Jesus’s source code on a USB but didn’t know how to read it, so you try to figure out how to read source codes in general by doing all this testing in order to eventually bring about Jesus’s return. That, but with Kier (and his bloodline) using a chip to enable “Kier Mode”.
PolarBearTC
2025-03-12 00:36:52 +0000 UTC
I'm stuck on trying to figure out what Lumon's research is trying to study... because if you want to control or manage fear and anxiety, you hack the amygdala, which the chip doesn't seem to influence since Gemma's multiple innies still experience fear.
Genevieve
2025-03-11 19:49:25 +0000 UTC
It makes sense research wise, since they would need Gemma to be a different innie in each room to control factors that can influence what they're studying or looking for. They also have to eliminate the impact of the trauma encountered in the other rooms since it would alter the impact of the situation encountered.
Genevieve
2025-03-11 19:36:29 +0000 UTC
No I never caught that. But I did notice it didn’t seem consistent there was something off with how they describe things and I said it which one which and now I think if I had considered more than two personalities it would’ve made sense whatever I was seeing
Rock Lee
2025-03-11 16:07:19 +0000 UTC
I don’t know if you already caught on by the next episode so this might be dumb. Each room she visits may be a separate severed personality. Each one acts as if they were just woken up when they enter. Only the one on the severed floor is ever called Ms. Casey