The Walking Dead 3 x 4 | Full-Length Reaction
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totally agree
Franklin
2025-10-28 20:35:30 +0000 UTCI think it’s funny how selective people are talking about lori’s mistakes being “too bad”, is like people are just judging the mistake by itself and completely ignoring the context and all the story, you can still not like her as a character, but the hate train is unjustified, and no one will change my opinion on that, all of the characters messed up, all of them, no exceptions, and to be honest i do think that scene of lori being the “devil on the shoulder” was pretty much intentional, to make people hate her, the way it was filmed and the writing was really intentional. and even then, she had the right reasons. There’s something about misogyny that most people don’t consider, when it comes to female characters, its somehow always easy to think they are annoying, to judge them more, the first approach is always to judge and compare, but when it comes to male characters, they are always “complex”, they are always worth redeeming, they always have their reasons, and it should be like that for all of them, but we dont see the same train of thought
moon
2025-10-23 00:39:38 +0000 UTCAndrew Lincoln’s acting at the end absolutely wrecks me.
Jaimie-Lea Livingstone
2025-10-06 16:41:24 +0000 UTCThanks. Love this so much, especially those last two sentences, and how we should learn to forgive
Franklin
2025-08-13 18:59:07 +0000 UTCExactly that's the part that turns my blood a little bit. Even some of the comments about that emotional episode were more about how Carl and Rick felt. And I'm like, what the fuck about Lori then? Nothing??
Franklin
2025-08-13 18:57:23 +0000 UTCThanks for deciding to comment. I appreciate it. It's positive reinforcement from. I would always rock heavy for characters like Lori that I feel get unfairly judged. Especially when all the answers are right there in front of us
Franklin
2025-08-13 18:55:43 +0000 UTCI debated commenting on this, but I'd just like to say I love your insightful commentaries. The way you handle talking about Lori and her character really resonated with my own feelings on it. I've ranted a lot to my best friend who hasn't seen the show about Lori and how she's treated by viewers, but seeing someone actually be able to give insightful comments on her story arc who has seen the show made me feel validated. And please don't ever apologise for being passionate about analysis, it's the main reason I joined your patreon. I wanted to hear more of your opinions on media and I look forward to seeing how you react to future storylines.
Abbey Munro
2025-08-13 08:37:41 +0000 UTCYour ability to empathize and understand Lori is another reason I enjoy your reactions so much. The Lori receives will never make sense to me, ESPECIALLY after she goes out like this...she wasn't perfect, but that doesn't mean she deserves all she gets. There is a crazy lack of emotional intelligence when it comes to people experiencing her character and I truly believe the root of it is misogyny, whether people realize it or not. She wasn't a perfect wife or mother and made some mistakes so all the strides she's made to be better don't matter anymore. To be fair, of all the Lori haters i've seen react to this show, most of them don't think she ever deserved death and most were still emotional and felt for her in this moment, but even then it felt like they were more sad for what it meant for Rick and Carl and not like they finally felt something for HER as a character. And that's crazy to me.
sierra's reaction corner
2025-08-08 19:17:28 +0000 UTCAwe man, I never really liked Lori, didn’t hate her or anything but didn’t like her much. But having rewatched this show a couple of times now and listening to what you said about her definitely changed my mind on a lot about her character. This damn episode though, her death is one of the saddest in the series and breaks my heart every time. I cry so hard every time. She wasn’t given enough of a chance to make amends for the mistakes she made and she wasn’t forgiven by Rick either, not really. Man, Carl will never be the same, having to shoot his mom like that and Rick will be filled with regret forever. I really enjoy all your viewpoints on this show. Having another opinion really makes you think. We’re all human, we all make mistakes and Lori made plenty but she also did a lot of good. It just shows us that life is short and anything can happen at any time and maybe it’s better not to dwell on the bad and maybe sometimes, no matter how hard, we should learn to forgive. And RIP T-Dog, died protecting Carol.
Izanne
2025-08-06 15:56:59 +0000 UTCI can appreciate you being able to put so much thought into Lori's character, but yea I don't have much compassion for her plight. Yes everyone makes mistakes but hers had devastating consequences that effected her family. Choosing to be in a relationship with Shane, choosing to let him play daddy to your son so close after "his death"choosing not to tell Rick right away about it, choosing to still keep Shane close enough to give him hope, and the biggest of all choosing to have a baby in the freaking zombie apocalypse. So Shane loss his life (really no loss though) you loose your life and your son looses his mother and now the group has to raise a baby during the freaking zombie apocalypse. I just don't think it was worth it. Yea as a middle aged woman myself I don't believe I would have made the same selfish choices. Those were alot of big mistakes.
Tamara
2025-08-04 01:52:00 +0000 UTCAndrea is such a beautifully complex character. She has tried to assert herself as the strong one so many times, but her weakness is always on display in the way she's so quick to irritation and changes her ideals based on the ideals of those she admires (she really is like a chameleon in that way). She often idolizes the strong men around her and it makes her an easy victim for people like Shane and The Governor to manipulate. I think we've seen the best version of her so far when her sister was still alive and in her moments with Michonne. Especially with Michonne, she admires her, but is given the space by Michonne to form her own opinions and develop her individual self. I have someone in my life who is very similar and it was always torture watching her let so many people shape her for themselves. When she finally found someone who let her shape herself we saw her confidence increase and her happiness rise. I don't like the way Andrea approaches many things, but I have so much empathy for her. T-Dog's death destroyed me then and now. He was always a good one, checking on the older ladies and loyal to the end. I still feel we were robbed of a good T-Dog storyline, we never even got his backstory and we barely know anything about him, just that his real name is Theodore Douglas. The only meaningful moment of his before this episode I can remember is his talk with Dale on the highway. He deserved more, but at least he went out in a way he could be proud of. He was originally only supposed to appear in a few episodes, but I believe I heard the writers and directors liked the actor so much, they kept him on. The Beth and Carl infatuation icked me out too. He was 13 or 14 in this season and Beth was 19 or 20 by this point. Just gross to me. If Beth was seeming kind of flattered and not against it, just Carl having a crush wouldn't be weird, just the way they wrote/directed/acted those scenes was ew. I had definitely gained a newer perspective on Lori, partially thanks to you watching this series. She is a perfectly written character. She has flaws that are reflections of her morals and insecurities, but she's also relatable and easy to understand. She is a huge win in so many ways with her ability to take accountability, speak with a logical and level head in dire situations, and the way she cares for those around her. The criticism about never keeping a close enough eye on Carl is valid, but also applies to Rick. The criticism that she shouldn't have tried to reconcile with Shane during their talk at the windmill is not valid to me. She was established to be more trusting of her husband's instincts than her own, so of course when her husband came back and said he'd dealt with the Shane situation, she believed him and tried to make amends herself to help Rick out. Those final couple of scenes decimated my heart. The S-tier acting, cinematography, writing, and direction in them are so incredible I can understand why you had such a hard time finding words. This was our irrefutable proof that no one is safe in this world. Andrew Lincoln's visceral representation of grief hits me right in my soul and had me sobbing all over again after Sarah Wayne Callies breathtaking performance of Lori's final amends. Lori may have needed to keep a better watch on Carl, but she set him up to succeed with her last breath. That scene was the final death rattle of Carl's childhood and the flashback to his conversation with Rick reminded us why. I have to be honest, if I were Maggie, I might not have let him shoot Lori and done it myself. Children shouldn't have to do that to their own parents, especially, but it shows how much of a different role Carl has taken on in this season. The adults trust him now, they don't just see him as a helpless child or burden, they see him as more of an equal.
MegMegMegg
2025-07-28 06:40:12 +0000 UTCYou know, I keep thinking about it, and besides the obvious (internalized misogyny on my part for sure) I wonder how much the week-to-week release format without the ability to go back and rewatch multiple times allowed people to absorb other viewers’ opinions of Lori as time went by. Because the loudest voices kind of got the chance to craft the narrative in the time between episodes? I’m really trying to remember because I was never on the Shane train (same reasons that you highlighted multiple times) but I really did take on feeling some type of way about Lori and it’s really just not justified on the film. I wonder how much of my opinion of her was gradually influenced by the chatter around the show at the time. I’ll be thinking about this for a lil bit.
Ledgedancer
2025-07-27 23:19:56 +0000 UTCFrank, I’ve been spending this whole rewatch so far paying attention to my feelings about Lori’s character. I always loved Sarah Wayne Callie’s portrayal, but I remember being SO frustrated with Lori when the show was airing. I remember thinking she never knew where Carl was and he was always off doing some nonsense, and she played Rick and Shane against each other and never confronted her own accountability… Well. Imagine my surprise as episode after episode passed and I wasn’t seeing the same things I remembered! Yes she made mistakes, but damn, she sure did sit with them. And she was in some uniquely complex situations even WITHOUT zombies hovering in the distance of every conflict. So this episode hit much harder for me this time, thank you for speaking on Lori so often these first few seasons.
Ledgedancer
2025-07-27 22:58:13 +0000 UTCI get why you skip the intro, but it does change as our group changes and the pictures represent that. Just FYI I would have taken Axel and the other prisoner (never remember his name) into the group. I go with my gut with new people and these two do not set any of my alarms off (any more than anyone does) They got rid of the troublemakers already. Have been around many convicts in my time and they are as different as anyone else you meet. Gotta take people on a case by case basis. Refugees~ that's the word. In my work I've dealt with refugees from Vietnam from way back, people from the Middle East, up to people who were bussed in after Katrina. They are displaced through no fault of their own. Daryl and Michonne are survivors. I think they were the most prepared to survive in this world. Daryl's been doing it his whole life and Michonne is just BAD ASS! She doesn't miss a thing! Lori's last moments with Carl are heartbreaking. I never doubted that she loved him. But she was not a great mother. When my kid was little, I'd be watching him like a hawk. In this world, it would have lasted past Carl's age. I do love that you can forgive Lori her faults. I don't think she's evil, but I've known a lot of manipulative women like her. RIP TDog one of the most wasted characters IMO. People can disagree with me but TWD seems to kill off almost every black man that comes on. Pisses me off. Edit to add: Shout out to Chandler Riggs. I see a lot of hate on him online and I don't get it. He was just a baby filming these early seasons and I thought his acting was great. Especially in this episode. Watching Carl grow up in this world makes me think of what my grandson would be like in the same circumstances.
Pam Copling
2025-07-27 13:59:13 +0000 UTCYou should watch Real Ones. It’s a show that Joe Bernthal created. Sarah Wayne Callies was a guest and they discussed the whole Frank Darabont firing and who went to battle for him and who didn’t.. basically those you see killed off in end of season 2 and some in season3. There is a really messed up story about all of it. Check it out when you have time.
Alexandra Zemlinski
2025-07-26 22:32:48 +0000 UTCnever understood the hate for lori 😭 has she made decisions that frustrated me?? yes! but thats true of nearly every character on this show. overall i understood why she did the things she did, and i dont think she ever did anything that would be unforgiveable to me 🤷♀️
alienqueen
2025-07-26 18:44:10 +0000 UTCA lot of people who aren't misogynistic agree that Lori was the worst and everybody can't be wrong. She approached Shane to alleviate her own guilt and then when he went haywire and a supposed threat was on the loose, even then she did not watch her son. But then pushed Rick away upon learning said son had to shoot zombie Shane. She was shook that Rick killed Shane point blank, despite encouraging him to deal with that. The alternative was Shane killing her husband, so what exactly did she want if she was pushing said husband away after committing the act he could not avoid and that she encouraged? The night Shane was killed was the one time you would think Lori would have been watching Carl, but nah. All the other stuff people mention about Lori, I don't have a problem with it. She was just being human and was still a good character. But those specific things I mentioned, most reasonable people would not look past that, at least initially. With time, her deeds would have been moot. Since she died by season three, that is what we have to go with.
lily mccann
2025-07-26 18:32:33 +0000 UTCPlus i’ve never seen anyone complain about the fact that Rick didn’t watch Carl enough it’s always about her
N
2025-07-26 01:39:10 +0000 UTCBeautifully said
Jenny Jackson
2025-07-26 01:21:32 +0000 UTCI was devastated to lose T-Dog. It's too much in one episode.
Melissa
2025-07-26 00:45:03 +0000 UTCYou make some valid points here that might explain some of the hate.
Melissa
2025-07-26 00:44:32 +0000 UTCIt’s so interesting to watch how Rick responds to each of these incidents. He saves someone, it turns out well, he feels reassured. He spares someone, they wreak havoc and he swings back to fuck y’all. It does make sense. It really mirrors hard stuff in our own lives: how do you best judge people? How do you decide to let them in? To trust? Priorities clash. It’s what makes the show so interesting to me. On a bigger scale it mirrors things like immigration policy— how do you decide who to let join your “group?” No easy answers.
Cristabel
2025-07-25 23:37:54 +0000 UTCI feel like Lori’s character is placed in the role of the antagonist for most of the show. The center of the conflict. And ppl struggle to separate that feeling from her actual actions. Other characters have flaws and aren’t asked to pay for them the way she is. And their flaws aren’t the center of the plot. From the beginning her choices of partner and her arguments with her husband are the center of the conflict. Then in the second season her pushing for them to stay on the farm and her being pregnant and her needs regarding that are center of conflict. It almost feels like, if she just weren’t there. If she just didn’t do A B and C those conflicts would go away. All the bad stuff in the show would stop. Which is silly and untrue. It’s a story. Let me be clear I ADORE Lori and a story has to have conflict to be a story. I’m just trying to think about why people cast her a the bad guy. I think ppl confuse antagonist and bad guy. She is in opposition to the main plot and main characters often. But she’s not the bad guy. Her struggles and choices and conflicts are real and human and don’t make her the bad guy. Also ya know. Good old fashioned sexism 😬🙃💀 It’s an interesting conversation and I appreciate you asking good questions and not just rolling past it. Sorry I write so many paragraphs all the time lol
Broody Gaming
2025-07-25 22:59:52 +0000 UTCAnd poor Carl just standing there... ugh. So devastating.
Rhiannon
2025-07-25 21:07:15 +0000 UTCExactly. Misogyny runs deep.
Rhiannon
2025-07-25 21:06:40 +0000 UTCLori is one of the most underrated characters in this whole series. She’s strong, smart, and caring. She made one, maybe TWO mistakes out of fear, trauma, and good intentions. And then she takes accountability and reconciles her “wrongs”. I remember being a teenager and feeling so sad about Lori and jumping onto Facebook/Reddit threads of people CELEBRATING her death and it broke my poor little girl heart. I feel so vindicated as a 30 year old woman watching your reaction to Lori. T-dawg’s sacrifice is one that stuck with me the most when I first watched this. Bro was always too good.
Julia Timlin
2025-07-25 19:23:53 +0000 UTCThis episode wrecked me the first time -- and again today. Please don't dwell on others' hate for Lori. Your feelings and analysis of her is totally valid. I often think our opinions about characters or shows, etc., often say more about US than about that character/show. YOU are an incredibly good and loving man and you see and value that in others equally. Thank you for your passion and emotion on this issue.
Melissa
2025-07-25 16:19:04 +0000 UTCThere are also predatory men (and women, yes) who can just sense something in others that they can exploit.
Melissa
2025-07-25 15:51:47 +0000 UTCYour comments on Andrea made me think about what types of male figures she had in her life prior to the apocalypse. She may have been surrounded by very "alpha" men who exhibited some toxic masculinity or perhaps she had been victimized. Those don't have to be the only possible reasons, but I do wonder about her background. Sometimes, its simply a person being attracted to some trait in another person, not knowing why, and continuing to make similar choices until they, perhaps, do some self-exploration.
Melissa
2025-07-25 15:48:51 +0000 UTCI really enjoy the focus on the lead characters but man, this episode really gave me new appreciation for T-Dog. I wish we could have known more about him. What heroism at the end of his life. RIP.
Philly Therapist
2025-07-25 15:24:21 +0000 UTCIt always breaks my heart for Carl that he had to be there for that horror and had to ensure his mom wouldn’t come back.
Cristabel
2025-07-25 14:49:28 +0000 UTCEpisode 4 for me when I first watched it simply tore me apart, no pun intended. To see T-Dog sacrifice himself to give Carol time to run while they're in the prison corridors....damn, so hard to watch him get devoured by walkers. He was so selfless. Frank, your comments on Lori are always on point. After this episode, I can even forgive her for backing away from Rick when he needed her in a previous episode. The entire boiler room scene when Lori realizes that she won't survive her pregnancy and orders Maggie to cut her open to save the baby is beyond heartbreaking. Lori shares one last loving moment with Carl before Maggie performs the procedure. Carl realizes that his dead mother will soon turn, and declares that he will put her down, I just can't imagine a child having to deal with this tragedy. When Maggie leaves the room, and a single gunshot is heard before Carl emerges....wow! For sure "no more kid's stuff" for Carl in this world. And then there is Hershel, after losing a leg, using his crutches to fight walkers. For sure they can't catch a break, not even one day. Then I realized the chain reaction that happens because of Rick refusing to kill Andrew....it results in Andrew breaking the prison's defenses, baiting walkers, leading to a horde of walkers invading the prison and indirectly resulting in Lori and T-Dog's deaths. 😥 In the space of just one episode, Hershel who was thought to be dying returns, the prison is compromised, two characters who have been with the series since the first season die in brutal ways, a baby is born and our hero, Rick, is driven into near-inconsolable grief.
KimM
2025-07-25 13:36:49 +0000 UTCAndrea really is that one friend who just keeps dating the same type of Bad men over and over. On my first time watching I remember trying really hard to understand why she did the things she did and I swear every time I rewatch I feel more sympathy for her. She's one of those characters that has people misunderstanding their good heart and good intentions for stupidity. I really love her character so much, she's really honorable and trusting. Something else I thought about is she used to be a lawyer lmaooo. Anyone would think she'd be able to tell apart the 'good' ones from the 'bad' ones. And as for Lori's hate in the fandom, it really is astonishing how much people hate her like she's the devil. The only explanation I can find to this is misogyny. People bend over backwards to defend Shane but are scared of a female character that's even a little complicated, like Lori or Andrea. Poeple just dont put the effort to understand because women are always supposed to be perfect, to bet there to support men, so when they fail to do so they're stoned. It's screwed up.
Iris
2025-07-25 09:58:49 +0000 UTCRick’s reaction at the end just crushes me. Every time.
Jaimie-Lea Livingstone
2025-07-25 08:54:31 +0000 UTCAgain thank you for your insights about Lori. I've seen other reactors to this show and.... they're not very thoughtful when it comes to her ☹️ They love the bravery of other characters like Rick, Daryl, Hershel, Shane... Then go and say Lori isn't as good as them because she 1) was an instigator and 2) doesn't watch Carl enough lol (there are SO many memes about that one). I've always appreciated Lori's patience and fortitude in this show.. I think anyone would be lucky to have a mom, wife, friend, apocalypse partner like her
Jenna Dolls
2025-07-25 07:42:05 +0000 UTCThanks for uploading TWD today!!!!
Jenna Dolls
2025-07-25 06:02:48 +0000 UTCAwww this ep wrecks me. Always love hearing ur thoughts. Ur grace and thoughtfulness is chefs kiss. Lori is such a deep and nuanced and wonderful character. So human. From the very beginning. And so much ferocity and strength. On this rewatch with yall that scene with Carl and Rick in the barn in season 2 broke me remembering what’s coming 😭😭 chandler riggs kills this role man. He’s so good for a little kid. Carl has my whole heart.
Broody Gaming
2025-07-25 04:10:32 +0000 UTCFWIW, I think the age difference between Daryl and Carol is less than 10 years. All the sources I’ve seen calculate Daryl to be in his late 30s to early 40s and Carol in her early to mid 40s. She is quite motherly though lol
Ellen Noir
2025-07-25 02:42:14 +0000 UTCFrank, I don’t think you’re missing anything about Lori. In fact, it’s the ones who hated her who missed something. They missed that this is a character drama more than a situational drama. They missed the complexity and the opportunity to philosophize about her choices. They label characters as “good or bad” and leave it at that.
Ellen Noir
2025-07-25 02:40:47 +0000 UTCRick crying makes me cry.
Ellen Noir
2025-07-25 02:39:18 +0000 UTCHonestly, I think Beth is just being nice to Carl. She clearly knows he has a crush on her, but also it’s the apocalypse. She’s not trying to break his heart when any of them could die any day, and he’s a kid to her.
Stefan and Erin S
2025-07-25 01:15:43 +0000 UTCTbw, I saw some young (20’s?) male reactors who thought Beth was flirting with Carl in that episode. Guys. Seriously?
Susan B
2025-07-25 00:54:35 +0000 UTCF Shane, i never liked him tbh
Elena de Haan
2025-07-25 00:54:12 +0000 UTCIn Carl’s world, Beth is every supermodel who ever lived and is a goddess. His dating prospects are pretty limited. 😬
Susan B
2025-07-25 00:52:53 +0000 UTCPreach btw ! i completely agree with you on what ur talking about at the end of the video !
Elena de Haan
2025-07-25 00:52:46 +0000 UTCthat last scene never fails to make me cry, top tier acting aswell.
Elena de Haan
2025-07-25 00:49:03 +0000 UTC
