HAZBIN HOTEL Season 2 Episode 7 & 8
Added 2025-11-20 02:18:21 +0000 UTCComments
I'd love to see/hear you react to some (hazbin hotel inspired) nerdcore songs. Especially some of Fabvl's songs, he also did a cover of "Gravity" you might be interested in. His songs are more on the heavier side (e.g. metal, heavy rock) with some harsh vocals, so I'm not sure if you'd be into that but I thought I'd recommend it just in case.
BlueKitsune24
2025-12-27 02:44:22 +0000 UTCThat "Storm's Comin" from Lute actually sounds like a damn siren and it gives me such chills.
Kerri Kortness
2025-12-24 14:43:45 +0000 UTCAlso I honestly think Vox still could’ve been a televangelist, we just didn’t see a lot of it. But the use of “baptized” and that one freeze frame in Brighter… Very televangelist vibes.
Prophet
2025-12-14 03:53:05 +0000 UTCI respect that the episodes are obscured even on Patreon! I hope you know that I didn’t come here for the original, I came here for you!
Prophet
2025-12-14 03:42:45 +0000 UTCSo- if Shock.Wav isn’t meant to hunt things the size of Alastor- does that mean he’s truly only doing it to protect Vox
Erin Forest
2025-11-25 01:13:43 +0000 UTCReally glad to see this- and I do like the ad rants- and shark rants. I did want to say quickly- I’d highly, highly recommend checking out Helluva Boss. If Hazbin is considered very story driven, I’d say Helluva is very character focused- and while not every episode or scene hits (similar to Hazbin) the ones that do- hit so hard and hit so well. And- on a music note- there is at least one song per episode- and features a lot of broadway heavy hitters- Alex Brightman, James Monroe Iglehart, Barrett Wilbert Weed, and Patrick Page- Hades himself. If you’re still on the fence about starting a new series- at least check out Episode 6 of Season One, Truth Seekers.
Erin Forest
2025-11-24 21:11:17 +0000 UTCI have to disagree that Adam was a better villain than Vox. Putting aside that Adam wasn't even IN most of Season 1, feeling more like a bookend than an active antagonist, I found Vox much more charismatic, likable, and he had a lot more buildup. Not to mention being in way more songs, most of which were absolute bangers. As for songs in general, I both agree and disagree. More songs stood out to me from Season 1, but Season 2's best songs top anything from Season 1 imo.
PurpleZerk
2025-11-24 14:02:03 +0000 UTCInteresting fact: In Brighter when Vox is preaching to his followers they are all standing in water, so when he died the electricity killed them as well. That's a big theory on how he rose to overlord status so fast, its because his followers went to hell with him.
Moonpaw8
2025-11-24 03:25:20 +0000 UTCAbsolutely loved this finale. I have my critiques, but I'm really trying to think of this show in the big picture, knowing it's going to have at least four seasons. So, Lute I expect to be the main villain of Season 3, similar to how Vox was setup back in Season 1, while Lilith is part of the biggest overarching mystery of the show and thus something I'm more forgiving about just getting breadcrumbs here and there. I think the comment you made in Episode 7 about this feeling more like the end of Act 1 is right on the money. The immediate threats are dealt with, and the hotel is now in the position Charlie wanted it to be from the very beginning. The question is, where do we go from here? Also, this is something I don't see commented on very much, but Charlie making Vaggi hotel manager is HUGE for her character. She's literally giving her girlfriend the responsibility of running her dream hotel, recognizing that she's the better fit and sticking to what she's good at: counseling. I can even forgive her frustrating arc this season knowing that's the end result. Really excited for next season, but perhaps even more excited to see you start reacting to Helluva Boss. That should shed a lot of light on the worldbuilding behind the scenes. (Oh, and I love sharks too. Thank you for giving them the respect they deserve.)
PurpleZerk
2025-11-24 00:32:13 +0000 UTCI love that live to live idea!
Fenix
2025-11-23 17:47:19 +0000 UTCbtw it's gonna be at least 4 season, but Viv hopes for 5. Somewhere in the season someone (Alastor or Val, I believe) said that Vox (I think) is gonna lose his shit in act 3. Question is if they meant this season, cause that definitely happened or the show in general.
Fenix
2025-11-23 10:39:02 +0000 UTCChristian Borle also has said that he'd like to re-record his s2 songs due to not giving it the performance he'd want to after knowing more about the show
Fenix
2025-11-23 10:15:04 +0000 UTCregarding the pentious design: danny pointed out that he's covered in eyes, since he engaged in voyeurism and the act of watching a crime, but not reporting during his human life. Not sure about the snake tho
Fenix
2025-11-23 10:11:13 +0000 UTCI think the point of Abel being a centrist is more about him not having the guts to make his own decisions. So he says they both have good points because he doesn’t want to side with either of them. Also: If hell born can be killed and how is answered in Helluva Boss.
Cecilia Yus-Cornejo
2025-11-23 05:04:51 +0000 UTC1. First of all, YES, YES, YES to a cover of Best Daddy Ever (I know you were joking, but please!) 2. I was (and still am) incredibly disappointed by how we didn't really get any Lilith this season. She was THE ending cliffhanger of season 1 and then got referenced so much in this season, it was so frustrating that she didn't show up. Similar frustration to how Charlie's demonic power kept getting shown in season 1 and then it just never paid off. I did see it stated online, that she was teased last season, because they didn't yet know how season 2 would turn out, and season 3 will definitely be Lilith. Still incredibly disappointed we didn't get to see her in this. 3. Similarly, and I'm glad that we agree on something, the build-up with Lute in Gravity and throughout episode 2 was way too hyped to then end like that. All we get is like a 1 minute fight in the finale and then she just stands down because Abel of all people, who she's been disrespecting the entire season, tells her to. 4. In my opinion, pacing is the only thing this season did better than season 1 (not saying it was good in this season, just better than s1). As a whole, I liked the songs in season 1 more, the villain was better, the plot wasn't as bleak and frustrating. 5. Something I only realized while watching this reaction, that I didn't think of when watching it on my own, I think Charlie is actually the strongest being in hell. Lucifer isn't, because his power is limited by his punishment of being unable to harm sinners. Lilith presumably has the same limitation, because she was cast down for the same crime and at the same time as Lucifer. Charlie is their child, but not bound by their limitations. That is why capturing Lucifer didn't establish Vox as the strongest, but Charlie proclaiming it in front of Hell did. 6. Alastor's Deal needs to be explained better, in my opinion. From this it seems like he gained his power from Rosie (which also came completely out of nowhere), yet he speaks about the deal and acts afterwards like the deal was holding him back somehow. And then breaking it brings him power and has no consequences for Rosie? (maybe her consequence is just that she doesn't have Alastor under control anymore? not sure) On a related note, I think the deal at the end would've put Rosie in Alastor's power, because she was the one asking him to help. That being said, it's theorized (and the show does seem to imply it heavily) that he demanded that Rosie fix his staff in exchange for the help. So that final deal was a one-off and they're not still bound together. 7. Sorry about the wall of text, I had a lot of opinions and frustration after watching the finale and this was the first place I had to put it. If you're curious about when the next season could be: Season 3 should have a similar wait time to this one (so about a year and a half, or beginning of 2027), but there should be a shorter wait time for season 4, because those got green-lit together.
Kiro LV
2025-11-23 00:36:10 +0000 UTCI really don't like it but I feel like given Angels sin they have to atone for is murdering their father, presumably for something terrible, that the only way they might end up atoning is saving the life of somebody they hate. Like Val. As for not paying off Gravity... I do agree but I get it structurally. They needed Vox to be the big threat of the season and having Lute going on her whole revenge bender needs more time and attention than shoving it side by side with Vox being a threat. At the same time they couldn't just save her crash out and big number for season 3 because it would make no sense for it to happen that late down the line. Its messy for a 2nd season of a TV show but if you view all 4 seasons as one big musical then it works nicer.
Murry Soothsayer
2025-11-22 23:33:59 +0000 UTCOh duh good point
Mortius
2025-11-22 00:32:40 +0000 UTCI'd like to kindly point out that angelic steel can definitely kill winners permanently as it was confirmed in season 1 that Adam was the first winner admitted to heaven, hence why he was asked what qualities got him into heaven. And given that Adam is very dead, I'd say it's safe to to assume that the winners ain't winning that one.
Victoria Kirbitson
2025-11-21 21:07:47 +0000 UTCWater puppies are adorable! Not there fault we look like their food and they can't check any other way than by chomping
Phoenix Mackenzie
2025-11-21 20:04:33 +0000 UTCYeah the whole thing with Abel has been that he has no opinion of his own other than hating conflict(which Valid considering what happened last time he was in a conflict when he was alive...) so a "you both have good points" makes sense when his only thing is please don't fight which then in the last battle he finally gets a burst of confidence/courage and is Abel(pun intended) to take a stand against *lute* of all individuals and tell her to stand down and get back to heaven which will likely lead into him more coming into his own(hinted at by Abel looking at the helmet at the end)
Phoenix Mackenzie
2025-11-21 20:03:52 +0000 UTCThis comment has nothing to do with the show and everything to do with the rants... 100% YES Buying local when possible is so so important. My sister is a local baker, her doing that has really opened my eye to this, going to the markets and buying product from small businesses is so beneficial. I buy my eggs from a family that has a like 50 chicken flock that free roams and it feels amazing to support them because I know they are putting back into the community too, not to mention the welfare benefit for their chickens. I buy bread from my sister or other bakers, different produce in general. Beyond that, local crafters are amazing to buy gifts for people from!
DizzIsLiving
2025-11-21 16:06:02 +0000 UTCthat pacing comment is so based! I swear my ONLU complaint about Hazbin is that we have SO FEW episodes. Like okay it doesnt have to be like 409 Naruto episodes with tons of filler but ya know if this season or season 1 had been told in 10 episodes instead of 8 I feel a lot of the stuff would've hit me harder than it did. Not that I dont like it, I LOVE the show 🥰 But I agree, with just a liiiiiittle slower of a pace a lot of this build up would've hit me epically hard! But like... Charlie and vaggie fight and then the next episode its all good again. Vox makes this crazy weapon that can destroy heavens gates op well its gone the very next episode. Like. We could've sat with it for 1 extra episode. There was a lot of interesting story there that could've had a little more expansion. But I still love the show and Vivienne! It's great! I just want more 🤣😂
Caitlin Conway
2025-11-21 11:37:59 +0000 UTCI think Abel's centrism is absolutely setup for when he decides to stop fence sitting and take a stand. I think someone of good faith can recognize that Hell is absolutely a threat like Lute says but that it's just not remotely the priority right now and should be the absolute last resort if you've done EVERYTHING you can to make real, lasting peace. And even then, full on genocidal exterminations of random sinners is not the militaristic solution to that problem lmao. Centrism SHOULD be the valid option for most people if both sides were being the same morally and ethically, but they aren't. You can't be in the center of one side is 90% of the bad stuff and the other is only 10%. We likely don't agree in terms of our economic takes as a whole but we seem to be politically and socially largely the same based on what I hear you talk about. That being said, I wholeheartedly agree with the centrism take you've given. Centrists, in an effort to seem above it all, just end up running cover for conservatives. EDIT: Also, Live to Live is easily my favorite song this season. You won't be the only defender lol. "Fear" and the idea of overcoming it or pushing through it has always been a really powerful theme to me in media, as well as the idea of just being better than yesterday, even if you can't ever be good. It's why someone like Endeavor from My Hero Academia speaks to me as a character. A genuinely horrible human recognizing and confronting those immense character flaws and working to change them and become better is so compelling.
Chimpman
2025-11-21 10:47:38 +0000 UTCHearing you explaining sharks sadly makes me sad- also- I mean don’t lemon sharks seek scratches from divers? Maybe bamboo sharks like to scratch on shoes? Also hearing about the happy ending- right before the Angel moment- physically hurt
Erin Forest
2025-11-21 06:05:38 +0000 UTCFun little animation moment; the spinshot at the end? Go check out the plan to get into the Tower and all that again. Note how her plan ends with all the Overlords and themselves in a circle together in harmony? And what happens at the end here - a circle of Overlords with Emily and Charlie in harmony.
Aqua Allison
2025-11-21 04:17:34 +0000 UTCI think the reason for Abel saying, you both have good points to give him character development and eventually choose a side like he does in episode eight.
Henry Walton
2025-11-20 23:50:17 +0000 UTCplease do helluva boss now
Enby_Ember
2025-11-20 22:34:27 +0000 UTCI rewatched your reaction because it was so amazing and made me happy but i have to say your very sad bamboo shark rant after the emotional devastation was both so adorably cute and really funny. Also, how does one get a job to work with bamboo sharks. Cause that wasn't offered when picking my career. I am also curious, will you react to the Hazbin on Broadway thing that also on Amazon?
CalvinTheCat
2025-11-20 21:45:04 +0000 UTC1:36:13 I think she's supposed to be a fashion doll, but I could be wrong. I thought that little detail was really cool though!
I Just Lost The Game
2025-11-20 20:50:17 +0000 UTCI also think Vox’s killing spree in life was him taking various entertainment jobs over the years and meant to also represent how he keeps changing gimmicks to stay relevant, especially since at least some of those jobs (Newscaster, talk show host, cooking show host) are all featured in his ever-changing montage in Stayed Gone, in which Alastor also notes this “Is Vox insecure, pursuing allure? Flitting between this fad and that, is nothing working? Every day he’s got a new format!”
Sarah Rodrigues
2025-11-20 18:42:59 +0000 UTCI also thought Vox was going to be a television mega church leader.
Wea1288
2025-11-20 17:31:22 +0000 UTCAlso, I love how, with Baxter, "I have this really particular, maybe odd, comfort need, and you guys met it exactly, no questions asked, so obviously we're best friends now and I'll do anything for you" is such a neurodivergent mood, ehehe
Paradoxgavel
2025-11-20 16:56:19 +0000 UTC"There's too much happening in my brain and heart" is such a good quote for this episode. There's so much I want to say but I can't think. I'm really glad that you liked the episode. I loved it but I've seen a lot of mixed reactions that make me a little sad. I'm with you that there are some messy things and stuff that should have been added but there wasn't enough time. I really liked the power of friendship thing even though a lot of people said it was cheesy and a cop out but... isn't that the entire theme of this show? Yeah, someone dying would have raised the stakes and I have no doubt someone probably will eventually but I think it was really important for the story to have a coming together of all the sides for a single purpose. They're going to need that in the future. Also, absolute banger of a song. I personally think that Lute and her storyline is waiting in the wings and this season was a set up of that, kind of like Vox was a minor character throughout S1 but came out with a bang this season. I predict she will be the primary antagonist, with Val as the secondary and we will hopefully get some serious progress on Angel Dust's storyline. Maybe he'll finally free himself. Meanwhile, Lilith will be the drama factor and muddy the waters (is she good? Is she bad?) And I think S4 will be Alastor and maybe Lilith as the antagonists. I'm convinced that Alastor is going to be the final boss but we will see. Hey, look at that, I did find things to talk about! One last thing: SHARKS!!🦈
kenda1l
2025-11-20 16:08:16 +0000 UTCI think "Live To Live" might be my favorite song in the show so far, lyrically. Just the whole thing of "Being a mortal is so scary, and existence is so wonderful, that all of us are capable of doing crazy things just so we can make it to see another sunrise." And the idea that morality is really, really tough when you don't feel safe and stable. That if you want people to be able to grow and change, you need to make sure they feel safe and stable enough to shift out of survival mode and connect with those around them. But also the idea that being in that unstable, uncertain place but still *choosing* to be kind and trust others is incredibly brave.
Paradoxgavel
2025-11-20 15:22:04 +0000 UTCVox might be more powerful, but we have clearly shown that Alastor is still smarter than him. Power only matters so much, it’s also how you use it
Mikayla Prushik
2025-11-20 15:11:32 +0000 UTCThis might be a hot take but its not something I've seen anyone else bring up: I think the songs this season dont hit as hard is because so many songs feel like MULTIPLE SONGS MASHED TOGETHER. For example Vox populi, LOVED the lucifer bit and imo it should've been its own song. Like if you really think about it, the best songs this season has been songs that stick TO ONE THING (GRAVITY, PISS, LOSING STREAK, LOVE IN A BOTTLE, SERAS CONFESSION). The issue wasnt 3 songs per episode, it was essentially 6-9 songs per episode since half the songs were like multiple unfinished songs mixed together! Also, the ending...eh sure? It didnt feel as satisfying as I wanted and felt kinda empty. However, this season did SUCH A GOOD JOB IMO WITH SERA like shes probably my favorite character now. THAT is how you write a character with flaws that doesn't make you want to pull your hair out (*cough cough* Charlie *cough cough*) also the backstories were fun as well as more subtle information on lilith. And Vox was such a good villian, the descent into pure jealousy and willing to end half of the pride ring just to get back at Alastor, very fun (also showing he's also powerful was good). The twist of Rosie, very good. Giving the side characters more screen time/development was SO NECESSARY. Making Lilith haunt the narrative in a way where shes always lurking in your mind, so fun. And while this season does have some giant plot holes/things that weren't CLEARLY stated (why they couldn't just bring pentious down- they should've said the actual reason other than "youre unique! You can't go back!" They kinda left it up to the fans to figure it out which isn't great writing wise. Also I'm not sure why charlie didn't just beat the ever living hell out of Vox... Genuinely I think she could especially since Vox couldn't TOUCH HER and even HE assumed that meant harmed so it would've just been her beating him up and him not being to do anything mirroring how lucifer felt. (Also velvet deserved more screen time and not to feel like a third wheel, no I'm not over it and WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT MY GIRL NOT GETTING A SONG THIS SEASON WHEN VOX GOT LIKE 7) 2:06:34 THIS IS THE NONSENSE IM TALKING ABOUT! NO MENTION OF VELVET WHEN SHE PLAYED AN EQUAL (if not bigger) PART IN STOPPING VOX! If she goes on a solo villain arc I'm supporting her till the end.
AceOfTheDeck
2025-11-20 13:40:47 +0000 UTCan opinion that you're entitled to have, but not everyone has to share :)
Fenix
2025-11-20 13:34:17 +0000 UTCalso shown by him killing multiple people with the Lucifer weapon during his crashout
Fenix
2025-11-20 13:24:58 +0000 UTCSo its likely already been mentioned but the last episode essentially confirms nifty is/was an overlord just like husk!
Trash Goblin
2025-11-20 13:17:55 +0000 UTCSo I believe the reason why sir penti didn't come up on the screen Immediately. is probably because baxter was still working on getting the connection from hell to heaven. Plus I think charlie needed to tell the sinners who penches was because nobody really knew him.And so I think explaining that he was a sinner, like them makes it a lot more easier for them to understand even if they were brainwashed.
Markus.On.Pluto
2025-11-20 13:12:41 +0000 UTCI had to pause the last episode, cause I was so anxious as well. Basically what you described
Fenix
2025-11-20 13:09:32 +0000 UTCI'm gonna miss waking up on thursday mornings to your Hazbin reactions, the season was over so fast!
Spidersilk559
2025-11-20 12:00:56 +0000 UTCMy personal theory at the end was not that Emily would die but that Sera would come down and sacrifice herself while talking about how she’s not scared anymore and wants to give all these sinners the chance to live to see tomorrow. I know it sort of mirrors Pentious’ arc in season 1 but it feels appropriate because she’s spent all this season wracked with guilt and unable to think of how to atone for her mistakes. It would also add a new intrigue for season 3 as it would leave a power vacuum in heaven
MJ
2025-11-20 11:52:38 +0000 UTCIt's not bad writing
Caitlin Millar
2025-11-20 11:51:42 +0000 UTCLive to Live is one of my favourites of the season, even tho the songs in this one really slap. Its sooooo good
Fenix
2025-11-20 11:46:50 +0000 UTCI think they just had Vox on their mind, cause of the current happenings on screen
Fenix
2025-11-20 11:08:40 +0000 UTCI've been sooooo waiting on your reaction. I can't wait to watch it :D
Fenix
2025-11-20 11:06:05 +0000 UTCI Think you misspoke alastor is the dear and vox is the tv
Caitlin Millar
2025-11-20 10:52:20 +0000 UTCI’ll be right there with you being a fan of Live to Live! It’s such a good song and the swelling violins as well as both Pentious and Sera’s vocals made it such a joy to listen to. Straight to the playlist!
Jayden Callaghan
2025-11-20 10:26:57 +0000 UTCI agree that the show doesn't do a great job of saying this, but what I *think* they're trying to say with Vox being the one to call out the genocide is this: Vox constantly appeals to the emotions of the sinners by acting like he cares about the people who were killed during the extermination. Yes, he's calling out genocide, but he doesn't actually care about those who were... genocide-d. So, I think the point is that bad people will use valid morality and statements that sound completely sensible on the surface to further their own self-image.
SpamtheTree34
2025-11-20 08:06:05 +0000 UTCWith Alastor and Rosie at the end, I’m pretty sure the “deal” was just “fix my staff or I won’t help stop the bomb”, nothing more complicated than that. I don’t think there are any ongoing terms&conditions so he probably returned to the hotel of his own free will (seemingly bc of sth to do with Lucifer based on what he was staring at as Charlie said he’d found “something new to entertain him”?)
tsukihimeyfan
2025-11-20 07:52:31 +0000 UTCHere's how you sing both parts of Live to Live and collaborate! Do 2 covers with 2 different musician friends! One where you do one part and then one where you do the others. Anyway, that song immediately hit me in the emotions from just the first few lines. Felt that in my soul. Also omg, you used to work with sharks, that's so cool! I am loving the ad rants, and heck yeah, support local!
Strivia
2025-11-20 07:37:37 +0000 UTCi thought mannequin
Enby_Ember
2025-11-20 06:35:57 +0000 UTCWatching this ?? Again ? More likely than you'd think
Sleepy.novatea
2025-11-20 06:35:33 +0000 UTCI think the thing with Velvette is she's supposed to be a doll. It explains her constant outfit & hair changes, and why she fell apart when she landed but just put herself back together.
HamboneKablooey
2025-11-20 06:34:58 +0000 UTCI kinda think the initial speech before showing pentious was to give them as much time as possible to get the connection working. They showed them working on it throughout her speech so if she'd tried to go "here's pentious" it would have been much the same with nothing happening.
Morrighan
2025-11-20 06:33:40 +0000 UTCOn the conflict issue, I think a lot of mistakes the characters make are down to where they are in Hell. They all are in Pride ring, and what a lot of the characters deal with is some form of Pride, especially Charlie and Lucifer. I don’t think the conflict was contrived. I think Charlie let her Pride get the better of her.
Tamlin Day
2025-11-20 06:28:59 +0000 UTCI’ve heard people say that Gravity is to this season what Stayed Gone was for season one. A banger for their character but not for the season it was in, so I’m hoping there’s more Lute in s3
Brady Thompson
2025-11-20 06:03:41 +0000 UTCO. I didn't think of that. I too was disappointed. But I have heard rumor about 1. Nifty being vox wife/killed on camera (her power IS old school film) 2. He was the leader of a cult as mentioned by val, the same cult that martha is in.??? A cult that worships roo???
Eyman Family
2025-11-20 05:58:53 +0000 UTCHazbin has been greenlit through season 4
G_Rez
2025-11-20 05:31:25 +0000 UTCI was amongst those holding a grudge against the lack of Patrick stump in any songs, how dare they put the lead singer of fall out boy and not properly utilize him. But then his portion in the final song gave me everything I needed, it sounded liked they took a snippet out of a fob song and put it in for Abel, which is also a fitting part for Adams son
Megan Smith
2025-11-20 05:24:38 +0000 UTCNot saying the show is perfect by any means but characters making bad decisions does not equal bad writing. Perfect protagonists are incredibly boring.
Joey Falgren
2025-11-20 05:16:01 +0000 UTChotTER take: isn’t giving us a banger song about a villain that we got basically no follow up with until literally the next season what they did with vox and stayed gone?? i am CONVINCED lute is gonna be the main antagonist of s3. especially with people theorizing that the next season is gonna be the morningstar season…like i DEFINITELY think lute’s gonna be the main antagonist of s3 with valentino/velvette as the secondary protagonists
Tee Michael
2025-11-20 04:54:26 +0000 UTCAlso regarding the “artificial tension” I think you’re missing one important detail: the plan accounted for VOX being alerted when the servers were turned on, they only name him specifically. What you’re seeing isn’t because Charlie did things in a bad order (remember also that both Baxter and Pentious need time to get prepared respectively) but because the plan failed to account for Shockwave to catch them and alert the Vees AS A UNIT thus both inside teams were blindsided by the threats of Val and Velvette
Sarah Rodrigues
2025-11-20 04:50:23 +0000 UTCI'm not sure if televangelism would have made sense for Vox, I don't think the kind of toxic televangelism we think of today really kicked off until the 60's or 70s, and it had been said at some point that he died in the 50's/ has had 70 years of history with Alastor in hell. A cool headcanon, but I don't feel like the timeline works out for it to have played out that way
G_Rez
2025-11-20 04:49:00 +0000 UTCI feel like if gravity was at the end of the final episode it would have been a lot better. It would have hyped us up for Lute being the next antagonist.
Kimberly Oblinger
2025-11-20 04:44:50 +0000 UTCPersonally i think it makes sense. Lute is used to following orders. Its a big thing for the exorcists. It goes against her nature in a way to go against Sera's or even Abels orders. I believe in season 3 we will see her break free of those chains and openly defy Sera to get her revenge.
CalvinTheCat
2025-11-20 04:42:29 +0000 UTCDidn’t really finish my thought but- Basically when you believe the people who are “attacking” you are evil monsters out to get you, your leader’s cries for war sounds reasonable. The only difference is that in the show the angels actually are killing people.
Aliyah
2025-11-20 04:39:40 +0000 UTCWhen it comes to Vox’s “nuance” my take was that the intention wasn’t for Vox to be in any morally grey area (Vox is a BAD man), but to showcase exactly how effective mass manipulation works. He takes the kernels of truth (the fact that there was genocide, and the other good points he has) and uses those to further his own goals alone. He doesn’t actually give a crap about the exterminations (in my read of it) but he sees it as a great opportunity to fear monger and gain power, which is exactly what he does. I feel like if they were going for a “vox is nuanced in this season” they would have given us behind the screen (hehe) moments of sincerity of those “good ideals” instead, he just uses them to manipulate the public.
Brady Thompson
2025-11-20 04:38:41 +0000 UTCWhat i think is interesting is that the ones who used their powers were Overlords, former overlords, higher than overlords and Nifty. Meaning she is at the very least a former overlord. I also really liked the power of friendship moment, even if i saw lots of fans mad about it. And i fully agree about the Sera and pentious song being peak. And that everyone was able to come together to fight the bigger threat, including Val and Velvette but also still being antagonists. For season 3 I defo see Alastor and Lute being a threat. Lute struggles with disobeying orders so to me it makes total sense she hasn't gone that far yet. She isn't happy about it. And she will probably reach a crash out point soon. And poor Angel is so, so broken now. Also its really sweet and refreshing that the Vees, despite being evil basterds, still care for eachother. They could have gone with the "villains don't have true friends" stuff but they didn't. The Vees are pissed at Vox but they still took him with them. And i am sure will eventually forgive him. And they seem to really have eachothers backs. It makes for a nice chance
CalvinTheCat
2025-11-20 04:33:00 +0000 UTCI think the point of Abel being a centrist is that he’s a coward. As far as the Vox messaging- I think the angel attack is supposed to be how the right sees immigrants/non-citizens. They see them as invaders posing a genocide on their lives and communities. It’s less clear if you aren’t around the kind of people who think that way, but I don’t think it’s a very far jump.
Aliyah
2025-11-20 04:30:54 +0000 UTCMortius. I'm with you on all the rage on Charlie and the monologue... but you have to remember she is the daughter of PRIDE himself. She cannot help it X3
Grithen
2025-11-20 04:29:43 +0000 UTCTo be fair for Steven universe... the diamonds aren't forgiven.
Braden
2025-11-20 04:27:06 +0000 UTCMy one main gripe is I feel like Lute was overhyped as an antagonist and then under utilized, and the way this ended I’m not sure they could be saving it for a later season
Sarah Rodrigues
2025-11-20 04:21:57 +0000 UTCI agree live to live is a BEAUTIFUL SONG💖💖
Eyman Family
2025-11-20 04:21:33 +0000 UTCI don’t really agree with your too centrist point tbh. Abel saying they both have good points was clearly a joke about how he hates conflict. And the whole point of Voxs character is that he’s able to convince people to his side regardless of how terrible a person he might be (definitely commentary on Trump). But in order to do that, they have to make him convincing and make him make good points in public at the rally. Otherwise he wouldn’t be an intimidating villain cause his only true power is his influence.
Joey Falgren
2025-11-20 04:16:15 +0000 UTCRegarding the centrism, I don't think the show particularly thinks Lute is on the same level of correct as Emily, given how they're presented otherwise. Abel's whole thing the whole season has been being weak-willed and wishy-washy, and his "arc" (although it was definitely rushed) was standing up for what he actually believed in. As for Vox, it definitely feels a LITTLE muddied that he's the main one calling heaven out on the genocide. I sort of feel like they're pushing the idea that Adam was, pun intended, a bad apple, along with the exorcists. Without him, only Lute actually wants violence, and the rest want to make things right. So it's a little hard to depict that nuance with as little time as they have.
Myeh
2025-11-20 03:46:42 +0000 UTCAngels contract is interesting. Val only controls angel in the studio. In s1 at the bar when angel sees val he says this. In loser baby, they show husk and angel wrapped in ropes when they are talking about being owned, husk is completely bound, no spaces between the ropes, tied tight, fully covering him. Angels rope has gaps, not fully covering him. This shows the difference; alastor owns all of husks soul, val has power only when angel is in the studio. I also think thats why he has one black eye, one normal where other owned demons (husk) has 2 black eyes; because his deal is conditional and not total but I forget if the eye thing is canon or fanon lol
Maia Kovacs
2025-11-20 03:30:52 +0000 UTCMy flex is I clocked human Vox having heterochromia based solely on the fact that his left TV eye is lined blue instead of black
Sarah Rodrigues
2025-11-20 03:28:59 +0000 UTCIm fairly certain alastor still is the strongest/has all his power still. Rosie's deal was, more or less, I will make you the strongest sinner and in return I own your soul until you complete my task. There's an end goal there and its on the soul owning part, not the power part. Doesnt make sense that alastor would allow his power to be taken when he fully expected to be able to complete rosies task. I dont think alastor would make himself a puppet again either, especially since he still has his power. Rosie wanted alastor to help Charlie contain the weapon, alastor wanted his staff and angelic wound healed, I dont think their deal was any soul contract, it was a quid pro quo like he said; fix these things and i will help
Maia Kovacs
2025-11-20 03:20:17 +0000 UTCYess I love this so far
Issy Guinn
2025-11-20 02:48:03 +0000 UTCWe do know angelic weapons can kill hell born, it was in helluva boss, a character attempts assassination and kidnapping with angelic tools (least spoilers way I can explain)
Maia Kovacs
2025-11-20 02:38:39 +0000 UTCNooooo uploaded the moment my D&D session starts! I’ll be back for this!!
Michelle Stewart
2025-11-20 02:22:56 +0000 UTCHere we go y'all (I might have to wait until tomorrow and commit time theft to watch this)
BronzeDionysus
2025-11-20 02:21:15 +0000 UTCTitle error!
Mediocre_ Me
2025-11-20 02:21:14 +0000 UTCthink u may have accidentally misnamed the recording ep5 and 6, but so so excited to watch!! 🩷
Matthew Powell
2025-11-20 02:20:07 +0000 UTCYes! The finale!!! Been excited all day for your reaction!
JenaeH
2025-11-20 02:20:01 +0000 UTCYayyyyyy
Rejoyce
2025-11-20 02:19:48 +0000 UTCITS TIIIIMEE
Sleepy.novatea
2025-11-20 02:19:21 +0000 UTC
