Patreon Exclusive: Welcome to Marwen (2018)
Added 2024-05-21 16:20:22 +0000 UTCWe finally did it.
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True, but I'm really talking more about the bigger picture of false morality that has formed in the past decade. All that glitters is not gold.
Lux Anatis
2024-05-24 09:04:28 +0000 UTCAgreed. Everyone has their stuff they enjoy that's not great and we all have different tastes but there's also a segment that uses "LET PEOPLE ENJOY THINGS" as something of a cudgel rather than saying "I know you don't enjoy this but I do, who cares".
Tom Goodwin
2024-05-24 00:19:51 +0000 UTCThat phone trailer in the bar story is one of my favorites. I'd have done the same thing.
Lux Anatis
2024-05-23 19:21:32 +0000 UTCI've never even seen it once, I was just very well aware of its reputation among critics when I was an impressionable teen. Roger Ebert famously gave it his rare zero star rating, after all, and it was kind of a punchline with my friends and I at the time. Joe and Ryan's episode on Harlem Nights reminded me of it and made me want to find out if there was a reappraisal in recent years and it appears so.
Lux Anatis
2024-05-23 19:19:10 +0000 UTCFools Paradise is a well intention-ed failure that was someone's personal vision. Marwen was a purposefully dishonest attempt at the surgical extraction of emotion.
Lux Anatis
2024-05-23 19:11:02 +0000 UTCHey, I'm not one to be sensitive about this kind of thing and I'd never suggest pulling punches, but since it's under one of my comments now I feel the need to warn against escalating this kind of talk. It can easily be misunderstood and I'd hate for Joe and Ryan to pull a RedLetterMedia and start feeling they need to put their cards on the table and making a clear demonstration against something they feel they might start becoming associated with. I don't mean to sound like a scold, just a little concerned the hosts might feel less inclined to be completely honest if things go too far in one direction. I hope you know what I mean.
Lux Anatis
2024-05-23 19:05:11 +0000 UTCI have a soft spot for BAPS because I saw it twice during sleepovers on cable tv when all my friends were passed out
Louie Caponecchia
2024-05-23 17:08:19 +0000 UTCtanned? lol. Thats makeup.
Louie Caponecchia
2024-05-23 17:05:49 +0000 UTCFor those of you non-oldheads, here’s a bit of internet history for what’s probably now considered an ancient meme. The Oprah bit is particularly funny. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_Over_9000!
Ryan Lancello
2024-05-23 16:24:30 +0000 UTCIt's getting a little too 4chan in here.
Lux Anatis
2024-05-23 14:58:43 +0000 UTCOver 9 gorillion my friend
Tristan Horse
2024-05-23 14:37:17 +0000 UTCOver 9000?
Ryan Lancello
2024-05-23 14:22:10 +0000 UTCThanks man, spread the word!
Ryan Lancello
2024-05-23 14:20:30 +0000 UTCRyan’s based levels are going through the ROOF!
Tristan Horse
2024-05-23 03:53:12 +0000 UTCYou guys rule
Nicholas Salahari
2024-05-23 03:53:02 +0000 UTCHaha I’m familiar with it, the Vivian Girls!
Ryan Lancello
2024-05-22 22:03:40 +0000 UTCBruh, Ryan. I'm passing you my phone so you can watch this trailer...
Thomas Bishop
2024-05-22 21:38:59 +0000 UTCMarwen has an insidious quality to it that makes it much worse.
Ryan Lancello
2024-05-22 21:25:13 +0000 UTCI'm honestly thinking of sending you guys more Anthrax CDs just for the joke with a Gift note that just say ">:("
JokersJuicyAss
2024-05-22 20:56:07 +0000 UTCThe only way this film could have bludgeoned the audience further with its smugness was if there was a tanned old man with goofy hair on TV giving a speech about building a wall. Reminded me in many ways of that shitshow Don't Look Up
Steven Trotter
2024-05-22 19:22:24 +0000 UTCThat crazy bitch who called Joe racist for shitting on anime is gonna love this one!
Steven Trotter
2024-05-22 18:49:19 +0000 UTCSomething notable about Nazi depiction in media is that out of the Axis the Nazis are the most depicted, like sure Italians did slip on their spaghetti, fell face first and shat themselves, but you never see the Imperial Japanese Army as the villain and it's not like "Oh but the Japanese aren't as evil." No they are, you can say they are evilier. 1941 might be the only film that use the Japanese as the villains, is it this disgusting fetish view of the Japanese "we" have (I don't have this view and I doubt you twos have) were everything they do is great and you should buy a Toyota right now at your local Toyota dealership (Ignore the fact nothing is made in Japan anymore, like look around your house for Japanese companies, none of that shit is in Japan, it's actually probably worse than American Made stuff because you can find American made stuff) or is it just The Tyranny of Guilt Liberals where you can't have anyone but white people play the villain or you're afraid it would piss off the People of Coloreds and cause a riot even though that has never happened, because 1.) You can't make a Hollywood movie with the message of, "Racism is good" then 2.) Have it screen in theaters in Black, Asian, Latino, etc neighborhoods, and then 3.) Get a audience to watch that movie
JokersJuicyAss
2024-05-22 16:06:45 +0000 UTCI think it’s way worse than Fools Paradise.
Luke Gordnier
2024-05-22 15:08:14 +0000 UTCSo what was worse - this film, or the one I sent you that you both eviscerated, “Fool’s Paradise”? - Seth
5chan.org
2024-05-22 15:07:40 +0000 UTCA popular documentary I loved that i was reminded of is "In the Realms of the Unreal" about a Chicago janitor guy Henry Darger who essentially had no friends and family as an orphan. Apparently, he spent all his free time for 80 years huddled up in a little room by himself making up this incredibly detailed story including collage and drawings about a group of puritanical little girl princesses with penises, who rule over a magic kingdom and constantly have to fight bloody crusades. The art is incredible, and nobody found out about all this until he died and they went to his room to find him. Tons of his stuff is now on display at museums and he's regarded as this outsider art hero, but pretty much nobody around him knew much about him or what his life was like.
Thomas Bishop
2024-05-22 07:24:52 +0000 UTCAlso I gave Strange Brew a watch this morning purely because it's free on youtube, I also watched Up in Smoke, Strange Brew to me seems more like a stoner movie than Up in Smoke, as in I really needed to be fucked up to enjoy Strange Brew while Up in Smoke was enjoyable even sober
JokersJuicyAss
2024-05-22 00:39:42 +0000 UTCTalking about a nuance take on Nazis , look for Cross of Iron by Sam Pekinpah a 10/10 for me...Also watch Twisted Metal TV Show dumb fun for 5 hours and Fallout is a 7 / 10 too many coincidences for a "serious" Drama show (FYC Emmy)
Salvador Pereira
2024-05-22 00:31:50 +0000 UTCUsing "Learning to Walk again" song sounds like a South Park bit, doesn't help that Trey kinda sound like Dave Grohl
JokersJuicyAss
2024-05-22 00:11:48 +0000 UTCDAMMIT!
JokersJuicyAss
2024-05-21 23:53:43 +0000 UTCIt was worth it, man. I really enjoyed agreeing with everything Joe and Ryan had to say about a film for once!
Lux Anatis
2024-05-21 23:40:20 +0000 UTCAs for suggestions for the Payback episode, I have five, all of varying degrees of relation, and a last one to consider for the future. Thanks for reading!: - POINT BLANK, which is maybe too obvious as it's the movie of which Payback was sort of the remake, but I personally (used to) have a lot of fun comparing remakes to originals. - CONSPIRACY THEORY, what's title alone makes it automatically appropriate for your show whether Joe likes it or not, was another time Mel and writer/director Brian Helgeland worked together. - APOCALYPTO was Gibson's next directorial feature after the controversial The Passion of the Christ, came with its own controversy, and nobody ever talks about it. - FROM HELL, which was written by Payback's screenwriter, is a totally forgotten adaptation of the Alan Moore comic book. - THE BEAVER, starring Mel (and directed by Jodie Foster), was a giant punchline when it was released, but might be worth a reappraisal in light of our recent national mental health over-correction and Mel's own personal struggles. - And finally, BAPS has absolutely nothing to do with Payback, but I just thought I'd mention it for a possible future episode. It was critically reviled in its time, but from what I understand was embraced by the very audience its critics were offended for. A possible companion if you ever get around to Meteor Man, with which it shares its director, or Bamboozled, with which it shares its themes.
Lux Anatis
2024-05-21 23:39:33 +0000 UTCThat Richard Roeper review had me in stitches. I saw this film in the theater, and I am still recovering from it.
Trevor Poe
2024-05-21 21:43:40 +0000 UTCYou did not disappoint in your assessment of disingenuity . Ryan scratches the surface of something I've observed for quite a while now when he talks about “childish adults” aggressively “patting themselves on the back” like this. He's touching upon the “wholesome” movement, or what I've dubbed the Cult of Kindness, which can be seen all over online forums, the t-shirts of the brain-dead, and whenever a journalist defends a media franchise, pop singer, or politician from an increasingly souring public opinion. This is the phenomenon we've all been unwittingly enduring in which a simplistic, fascist view of kindness is twisted and warped into a sort of pathological altruism and is being used to silence dissent, shut down criticism, discourage critical thinking, and punish alternative viewpoints. And who could possibly argue with someone who just wants to be nice and shut those HATERS up by any means necessary? Ryan is talking about this new breed of people who want to be ruled by kindergarten teachers. Excellent insight on all fronts from both of you.
Lux Anatis
2024-05-21 21:21:51 +0000 UTC🤣🤣🤣
Ryan Lancello
2024-05-21 19:52:54 +0000 UTCThat doll of Steve Carell (at least in that picture) looks more like Jon Hamm than anything else to me. You guys should make shirts designed after Welcome to Marwen poster - a little Ryan looking up at Joe and a little Joe looking up at Ryan variant, too. 🙃
Mary and Steve
2024-05-21 19:10:30 +0000 UTCI can't help but feel Zemeckis wanted to make this as a response to Trump's election and the Charlottesville incident, with the focus on neo-Nazis and "women saving the world". He might be familiar with the reputation that FORREST GUMP has in some film circles as a Boomer-era fantasy that overidealizes America, and felt he had to creatively reckon with how Trump's election kind of poked a hole right through that. Not that he succeeded, every review of this film sounds just plain horrid. I'm with Joe's thoughts on BEOWULF, seeing that in 3D was kind of amazing. But his PINOCCHIO remake is truly one of the saddest downfalls I've seen for a landmark director.
Jesse Shade
2024-05-21 17:32:56 +0000 UTCI am the man to blame for this I’m sorry I made you hate the medium of film Joe.
Luke Gordnier
2024-05-21 16:32:28 +0000 UTC
