The firearms instructor at our NearbY police academy added onto the usual newspeak of “We do not shoot to kill. We shoot to stop the threat. Two shots to the chest, one to the head.” His contribution was to add, “boom, that n-word’s dead.” And that was a hard “R” n-word. Yikes.
WFHChuck --All Zoom, No Pants, Since 2020
2020-06-25 00:43:27 +0000 UTC
I would love to hear folks talking about police training. I work for a state department of justice, and spend a fair amount of time at our law enforcement academy. What hear I most is the dehumanizing language they use. They only talk about "perpetrator", "suspect", and "threat". Nothing about fellow human or someone's son or daughter. The cops are trained to think of anyone without a badge as less than human and that is a huge part of the problem.
Ringing Rocks Ranch
2020-06-09 19:22:35 +0000 UTC
Thank you for this. I feel like I’m going crazy and your well articulated rage captured perfectly what I was thinking/feeling. Cheers for going balls to the wall confronting the real issues. Well done and much appreciated.
Cherie Taylor
2020-06-09 01:13:02 +0000 UTC
Remember his in 2017 Tom couldn't say President and then the T name? My wife was making get it the vote calls tonight and made a new friend. He said we need to get rid of 44+1 because he won't say the other number until the Tangerine Toddler is gone.
Matthew from Talking About the Big Stuff Podcast
2020-06-09 00:59:07 +0000 UTC
I could listen to you two rant for another hour. Also - Cecil, please fry the Spam first, don't just eat it out of the can.
Tracy & her cats
2020-06-08 18:59:04 +0000 UTC
Such a good episode. Thanks for the great talking points. You two are always able to put into words the rage so many of us feel.
Bra Straps and Bitch Slaps
2020-06-08 14:18:51 +0000 UTC
I had to unfriend someone because they were advocating abolish the police. They were clear that they and their friends literally meant abolish the police. Not, as I advocated, reform the police.
Its like Abolish ICE were only later on it took a practical turn. Its like "Build the Wall" were I'm not sure if it's, literal or figurative. The point seems to be venting populist anger rather than fixing a problem.
My family members are 2016 democrat converts so they're upset that they see broken windows and vandalized buildings but very few people voicing a clear path forward.
Fame and fortune guaranteed in the state of Tintucky
2020-06-07 20:06:48 +0000 UTC
General Mattis is a god to almost all Marines, so if his words don’t change minds in the Corps then literally nothing ever will.
It excited me because I thought Marines were generally impossible to convince to go against Trump, but THIS guy could do it. If not, then they genuinely are brainwashed.
Dean Paxton
2020-06-07 16:24:08 +0000 UTC
This episode is so good, should be required listening for anyone who doesn't understand the situation right now.
Jay Owens
2020-06-07 15:31:35 +0000 UTC
I agree with you guys that the people spreading the video of the cops smashing up the windows of a police cruiser that the context around that video wasn't the cops causing damage, but just in that case. There have been videos of cops breaking shop windows and undercover cops vandalizing property, it does happen. Cecil you asked why would they do something like that and some of the answer is for discrediting the protesters and giving evidence to help with a narrative switch. The cops can then use the property damage as an excuse to engage the riot cops to round up people and disperse the protest, though it does seem that they've decided to do away with that fig leaf. I don't agree with those who are saying it is only cops doing the damage so they can step things up but there are some instances where that is happening.
joshua macdonald
2020-06-07 14:20:47 +0000 UTC
When you guys were talking about the rubber bullets being shot at people, that is not how rubber bullets are supposed to be used, the rubber bullets are meant to be shot at the ground so that the bounce up and hit people in the legs.
joshua macdonald
2020-06-07 13:32:17 +0000 UTC
Skyscraper sized asteroid is also pelting towards earth. 2020 is a curse.
Geri McLean
2020-06-07 08:58:21 +0000 UTC
Good call, TBoneSF. Totally forgot about Dr. Strange. 🤣
chilli
2020-06-07 03:24:56 +0000 UTC
"I've never heard of one superhero whose cape was the source of the power". Not to be Comic Book Guy, but there is a high profile superhero with his own movie and has appeared in the biggest movie of all time (among others) for whom the cape is their source of flying power- Doctor Strange.
TBoneSF
2020-06-06 22:59:20 +0000 UTC
Tom kept asking “Where are the NRA/state’s rights/libertarian types?” I’ll tell you: THEY WERE ROOTING FOR THE FUCKING COPS!!! Their ideology was never about “freedom” or “limited government.” It’s about preserving a political, culture, and economic environment that only benefits white, heterosexual, Protestant, men. Any sort of progress on behalf of those outside that clique is considered “tyranny” and is therefore a threat.
Mark Siefert
2020-06-06 21:08:20 +0000 UTC
Tom and Cecil, this is all I can find regarding demands. Hope it's helpful.
joincampaignzero.org
Tim Niemiec
2020-06-06 20:47:55 +0000 UTC
Remember to dominate the battlespace in November.
Wandering_Idiot
2020-06-06 20:17:05 +0000 UTC
These memes are gold!
Stephanie Groth
2020-06-06 19:18:30 +0000 UTC