Dave Rubin/Tim Pool - “Oops! I Got Paid $400,000 a Month by Russia to Do Propaganda! I’m a Victim!”
Added 2024-09-06 06:22:39 +0000 UTCOA1066
Privyet, fellow citizens! We begin with a quick look at recent events following Jack Smith’s new superseding indictment in Trump’s January 6th case in DC. Why are Trump’s lawyers saying that Clarence Thomas “directed” them to file a motion to dismiss? And does DC federal judge Tanya Chutkan even care that this defendant who happens to be charged with four counts of trying to overturn an election is running for President at all?
Then in our main story: In an indictment filed this week, the Department of Justice has charged two Russian state media operatives with funding an officially unnamed production company which is allegedly (but also definitely) Tenet Media, the home of mediocre anti-woke crusaders like Dave Rubin, Tim Pool, and Lauren Southern (among others). Thomas takes us through some of the most entertaining facts alleged in the indictment, including an extremely real investor who is definitely in Paris and not Moscow, the Tucker Carlson Russian propaganda video which was a little too much even for Tenet’s producers, and why anyone (including Tim Pool) could have ever believed that Tim Pool could have possibly been worth $100,000 an episode. Matt then breaks down some of the history of the Foreign Agents Registration Act and how this indictment sets a new standard for its enforcement in the 21st century--and what (and who) might be next.
DOJ indictment of Kostiantyn Kalashnikov and Elena Afanasyeva (9/4/24)
FARA on Facebook, Joshua Fattel, NYU Journal of Legislation and Public Policy (2019)
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Rachel Maddow's book "Prequel" talks about Father Coughlin, I think it told the story Matt referenced that the Nazis decided they didn't need to pay Coughlin? It's a good and depressing book.
can I get a CHEE-HOOOOO
2024-09-17 14:57:40 +0000 UTCThe Kraken Lawyers are other examples, right? Surely judges would have to agree that law school is kind of a "you must be this smart to ride" filter. How can you have sufficient brain activity to pass the bar exam, but oh no your garbage election lawsuits aren't an intentional crowdfunding grift, they can't be, because you're so dumb you believe everything you wrote. Unless they can show that they drank a bunch of lead paint or suffered a serious head injury in the interim i don't see how it's possible
Bald Weasels Scrotal Manscaping
2024-09-16 15:22:33 +0000 UTCI get all that I think. What you said makes sense generally and the T3BE question about the kid who runs off with a 6 pack of beers after leaving cash on the counter is a good example/counterexample of those points. If the cashier had made the sale, even if he didn't intend to sell to a minor, he would be guilty because that crime has no intent component; however in the scenario presented, there was no act & no transaction/sale took place so he didn't do it. I guess my point is the law seems to be unable to infer basic human cognition and competence from someone's other publicly known actions and statements. You can't accidentally make propaganda videos for a foreign nation or unintentionally summon a rabid mob to murder the vice president. Why can't the prosecution be like "Your Honor, given the defendant can run a YouTube channel/be the literal fucking president/file taxes/ brush his own teeth/walk & breathe at the same time, I humbly submit that we all know his hurr durr routine is a crock of shit"
Bald Weasels Scrotal Manscaping
2024-09-16 14:50:33 +0000 UTCGenerally, to be culpable, you have to intentionally perform "a specific act" that is illegal (unless the statute says something like "malicious", "willfill", "negligent", etc.). That doesn't mean you have to know that the act is illegal, and your belief that it is legal (called "mistake of law") is not a defense. A "mistake of fact" can be a defense, though... it's not bigamy if you thought the divorce was final when you got remarried, even if it technically wasn't yet. So, yeah, the defense is essentially "I'm a useful idiot."
To sit in solemn silence in a dim dark dock in a pestilential prison with a life long lock awaiting the sensation of a short sha
2024-09-15 04:08:51 +0000 UTCAssad? Possible.
Trump wait no Biden eats shit.
2024-09-09 18:42:59 +0000 UTCMy bad hearing. And I’m a damn piano tuner. Sorry!
Trump wait no Biden eats shit.
2024-09-09 18:42:38 +0000 UTCBut also he's a rapist.
Lydia Smith
2024-09-09 17:45:10 +0000 UTCThat is what I recall as well. Gabbard's support for Assad.
Lydia Smith
2024-09-09 17:40:28 +0000 UTCreally? I guess I'll have to go back and listen, I truly don't think I mentioned him here at all. FWIW I think he has done some good work in the past and strongly oppose his extradition to the US. I think I did mention Gabbard's support for Assad, though--maybe that sounded like Assange?
Matt Cameron
2024-09-09 15:51:44 +0000 UTCYou were lumping him in with Tulsi G. Just a wee snide reference.
Trump wait no Biden eats shit.
2024-09-09 15:29:29 +0000 UTCdid we mention Assange in this episode at all? He wasn't even on my mind when we were talking about this
Matt Cameron
2024-09-09 15:12:13 +0000 UTCMueller said Don Jr. couldn't be prosecuted for conspiring with Russia to swing the 2016 election because he didn't realize that's what they were offering, so it's not just this month's set of propagandists being judged too dumb to jail.
Chris Conley
2024-09-09 11:16:21 +0000 UTCAmazed you’d class Assange as a Russian asset ala Pompeo and not as a journalist who crossed the US war machine ala hundreds of thousands of us admirers.
Trump wait no Biden eats shit.
2024-09-09 10:39:34 +0000 UTCI keep giggling every time I hear that lady got fired from the Blaze. 😂 -Steph
The Kochay
2024-09-07 23:13:47 +0000 UTCI don't get how "I'm too dumb to prosecute the intent component of this law" keeps working for these assholes. Like why there isn't some requirement to self-educate sufficiently to not be a total fucking idiot? "But I'm too dumb" doesn't work for other intent-based stuff, does it? "Your honour, my client could not possibly have intended for his neighbor to die because he does not know what a bullet is, let alone how a firearm functions". Cool story, but he did intend to point the weapon at the victim and pull the trigger, right? Pim Tool, Rubin, et. al. absolutely did intend to take money from some random Russian guys in exchange for undermining the US government, right? I just don't think "la la la I can't hear him going 'Privyet?? Something something nyet something video. Da, dollar amerikansky'" is in any way more plausible than not understanding that humans can't breathe underwater or safely digest cyanide etc
Bald Weasels Scrotal Manscaping
2024-09-07 14:49:03 +0000 UTCYup! I’m the account that’s linked to. My Tim Pool Clips account used to debunk and criticise him and I helped connect journalists or YouTubers covering him to relevant sources from his life or comments he’d made. Then life happened and I got busy so haven’t been active on that account. Someone else had to point out my account had been linked 😂 It gave me a good laugh seeing that
Jack
2024-09-06 21:02:55 +0000 UTCOne of the funniest things here is the *still active* Tenet Media site has a link to the Twitter/X account of each 'commentator' and the one for Tim Pool links to an account basically mocking Tim Pool. 🤣🤣 - what a bunch of clowns. Albeit wealthy grifter clowns for a bit, but LOLOLOLOLOL
Tim H
2024-09-06 17:22:07 +0000 UTCI saw the punchline coming, but it was still well-delivered.
Gmork
2024-09-06 17:00:28 +0000 UTCI likewise thought Tucker is among the dipshits who went along wo getting paid anything for it, and I think we're going to see a lot of bitterness and resentment among the worst people as they find out who the Russains valued enough to parrot their lines. Should be fun!
Gmork
2024-09-06 16:59:06 +0000 UTCAh, a classic and compelling plea to join Patreon at the end there...."Follow us on Patreon so we arent forced to take Russian money".... what a great soundbite. I'm sold!
Jess C
2024-09-06 15:32:23 +0000 UTCI'm from Romania and I'm "funding" open args. Are you sure you don't need to register under FARA? :)
Adrian Mester
2024-09-06 14:58:47 +0000 UTCThe fake CV was obviously created with organizations where there was no chance these YouTubers would have any connections. So they couldn’t ask anyone they knew.
Apprentice of Adventure
2024-09-06 14:12:13 +0000 UTCGreat episode! For a few years I ran the (mildly successful) Tim Pool Clips twitter account (still do but not as active now) so this news was incredibly funny and vindicating. Tim Pool can claim to be an ignorant victim all he wants and perhaps legally he is but he’s been in this industry long enough that he should know this stuff was dodgy as hell. He may not have known whose useful idiot he was but he must have known he was someone’s idiot. Tim Pool’s connections and finances are far more questionable than you’d ever guess. What I’m eagerly waiting for is whether some of Tim’s other connections get exposed. I’ve never mentioned this publicly because there’s still more reporting work that needs to be done on it (so see this as a world exclusive for fellow OA patrons) but as recently as 2 years ago Tim was secretly working with companies connected to Sean Hannity without ever mentioning it. He also had weird connections to Cambridge Analytica including having lived with one of the people connected to it. This Hannity connected company is also involved in running the websites for at least half a dozen other right wing grifters. No one has broken this story but the evidence is out there and at one point I was working with the SPLC on it but unfortunately we lost contact. For anyone who doesn’t know who Tim Pool is I’d honestly recommend keeping it that way
Jack
2024-09-06 13:06:44 +0000 UTCMatt - “some of you may not know who tim pool is, and I’m happy for you!” I laughed out loud! 🤣
KeepingThePlatesSpinning
2024-09-06 11:42:50 +0000 UTC
