Andor - re:View
Added 2024-03-29 14:54:48 +0000 UTC
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No, it was one guy. A guy named Manny Bothans.
Jeremy _
2024-05-09 10:36:42 +0000 UTCSo when are we going to get you old fogies talking about Ewoks: Battle for Endor and Caravan of Courage. You know that one of those has Wilfred Brimley starring right? And the principal from Breakfast Club?? EHH? EHHHHH?? poke poke... you gonna do the review???? HUH????
Ryan Morris
2024-04-14 14:01:32 +0000 UTCSo where are the Bothan spies !?
nebuloider
2024-04-11 14:09:53 +0000 UTCRead it all.. I like my hero’s unattainable and impossible to emulate, the idea of knocking hero’s down to build ourselves up is a sad marker of our values.We can only try to be like the hero, and it’s Not easy…. Now back to “Ouch! My BaLL’s”.. already in progress
Frazzled Doo
2024-04-08 04:22:37 +0000 UTC@patrickreadjohnson_moonwatcher, said: "This remains, to the day, my favorite review EVER, of the film I directed... Keep up the good work, guys!" He also commented a few months later saying he'd just rewatched the review and loved it again. Sounds like the type of fella you'd invite to discuss stuff.!
Diego Farías Cánepa
2024-04-07 22:12:19 +0000 UTCHey guys. Hope you're doing great. In case you didn't know, wanted to alert you about this comment on the baby's day out Plinkett review.
Diego Farías Cánepa
2024-04-07 22:09:08 +0000 UTCNext they will launch an entire Star Wars Boolean Logic Operator universe: And/or If/then But/not Only/if If/not/zero
Jeremy _
2024-04-01 17:38:38 +0000 UTCThe ending of this video is one of the best things I’ve seen from RLM. The realization 😂😂 I didn’t think of this for Luthen but it seems totally obvious now. Sigh.
Tim Kocher
2024-04-01 13:17:33 +0000 UTCAndor was exactly what I wanted from Star Wars but there probably is a limited ceiling for this kind of thing. We're probably gonna keep getting more Filoni-flavored things, which I think has kind of run its course. Acolyte at least could make the Jedi feel fresher and expand the overall world.
John G
2024-04-01 09:12:31 +0000 UTCHe might actually defect like you guys were saying but I was ultimately pretty puzzled about where he ended up in this season even though I thought he was a good actor and played the character well.
John G
2024-04-01 09:10:20 +0000 UTCAlso does a pretty heroic job of explaining the transition from clone to non-clone stormtroopers, which never really sat well with me before.
John G
2024-04-01 09:06:56 +0000 UTCI liked everything before that but the prison arc blew me away
John G
2024-04-01 09:05:27 +0000 UTCUgh I hope Rich isn't right about Luthen's backstory
John G
2024-04-01 09:02:54 +0000 UTCTNG season 2 re:View someday?
Matt Arnold
2024-04-01 00:49:22 +0000 UTCI think showing the hero characters as morally ambiguous is interesting when you show how society morally rots outside the established power structure (The Empire), for example locally. The law enforcement guy still tries to uphold morals and laws, but seems to know that his efforts are futile. The other law enforcement guy only seeks self-fulmilment in his career and doesn't mind doing immoral and unlawful actions when it serves him. An Emperor Palpatine type of man wouldn't be that successful if it wasn't for people at a local level helping his cause. But I also think when you show the liberation of a whole galaxy from the tyranny of one man, then moral ambiguity in hero characters is only interesting when you see how they turn... ...from selfish to selfless (Han Solo) or complying with the tyrant until they reach a point where they can't comply anymore and out of necessity turn against the tyrant (Lando Calrissian). I'd find it interesting to see a story where Galen Erso turns from some well-meaning engineer to an embittered enemy of the Empire. His main value is identical with Palpatine's supposed main value (peace and justice in the galaxy) until he fully realizes that he's the main enabler of war and injustice in the galaxy. He is not able to halt the construction of the Death Star, nor is he able to engineer something like a self-destruct mechanism. But he is able to get the Death Star plans out of the facility into the hands of the rebels. And that is the last deed he does before he dies.
Marvin Falz
2024-03-31 14:15:56 +0000 UTCThe prison arc is easily some of the best television you'll ever see.
Silentphil9
2024-03-31 08:15:51 +0000 UTCRogue One screenplay was co-written with Tony Gilroy who created and wrote the screenplay for Andor.
Dave Motion
2024-03-30 14:08:38 +0000 UTCI still love this series despite it all but I have to say making the empire seem legitimately tyrannical and cruel makes it all the funnier when teddy bears in a forest with sticks defeat them
The Rookie
2024-03-30 10:54:19 +0000 UTCI love you Rich
The Rookie
2024-03-30 10:39:43 +0000 UTCIf Mike wants to watch something about what makes the one- and two-pip functioniaries of the Empire tick, he is in luck. There is a movie out right now, and it is called "Star Wars: A Zone of Interest".
Jochen Mevius
2024-03-30 07:04:53 +0000 UTCI hear ya, but once I hit like 22 I just became a "relax and enjoy the dimming lights until there isn't enough energy left to run the devices that allow you to enjoy all the physical media you've saved up over the last fifteen years because you saw the digitization of media coming from a mile away" kind of guy (which is why I own over 700 DVDs/blurays, 500 CDs, and a ton of books). I just want to either relax or spend time with friends and family. In the end, whatever happens happens, and I can't change it. I'm just going to enjoy the ride for as long as it lasts. And hey! You never know. Things might somehow get fixed. I'm sure our grandparents thought the world was ending during fucking WWII. And our parents during and in the years after the Cuban Missile Crisis. We still live in an age of unparalleled prosperity, living standards, and lack of war. Maybe science figures it out. Maybe this; maybe that. You never know what the future holds. Can't be all doom and gloom! Just take it one day at a time, hope for the best, and don't get too down if you end up disappointed.
Neil Peart, Lord of Drums
2024-03-30 05:47:37 +0000 UTCIf only 1899 got a chance to grow legs…
THE_GnomeChomskee
2024-03-30 05:34:41 +0000 UTCYeah. Well. Sometimes all we can do is try to appreciate the things we love while we can. I wish we had more time. But isn’t that the same as personal death? I’d rather follow the suggestion of Dylan Thomas and rage at the dying of the light. So sometimes that makes me speak up a little too loud.
THE_GnomeChomskee
2024-03-30 05:22:02 +0000 UTCDark blew my fucking mind
Neil Peart, Lord of Drums
2024-03-30 04:08:10 +0000 UTCHaha thanks buddy. I don't really care about the greenhouse gases produced by animal agriculture because, again, it's a drop in the bucket. We could eliminate that and cars throughout the First World tomorrow and it still wouldn't do much. The vast majority of the world will continue to rely on fossil fuels, we will continue to rely on fossil fuels for energy, and no real progress will be made until people stop being scared of the word "nuclear" and embrace nuclear power. Of course, it's almost certainly too late already and, if it ever happens, it will definitely be too late by then! Enjoy the world while it lasts :D
Neil Peart, Lord of Drums
2024-03-30 04:04:50 +0000 UTCHey Rich: I don’t think Luthen is a secret Jedi. I think his twin brother was or he was rejected/he left the order.
THE_GnomeChomskee
2024-03-30 01:12:29 +0000 UTCMaybe it will be this: Dedra is killed after Cyril warns her not to go to a place. It is revealed the site was nuked from orbit by the empire (or something similar). Because she was his only contact/ally he decides to defect because the rest of them don’t care/hate him.
THE_GnomeChomskee
2024-03-30 01:11:09 +0000 UTCA Dash Rendar of salt, maybe? Sorry, that is a name in a no-longer canon book called Shadows of the Empire which took place between Empire and Jedi. He basically is Han’s replacement. I couldn’t help myself. I’ll see my way out.
THE_GnomeChomskee
2024-03-30 01:01:02 +0000 UTCFantastic comment. We have a lot in common. For instance I too am a veggie and leave comments that are insightful but way too long for most folks. Keep being you, Lord Peart. Btw animal agriculture creates more greenhouse gas than all the cars and most of the CO2 comes from modern industrialization and not consumers.
THE_GnomeChomskee
2024-03-30 00:54:06 +0000 UTCThere are some who call me, “Thymm”?
andrew
2024-03-30 00:46:49 +0000 UTC“Lifetime employee”? The problem in Lucas’ storytelling is that the Empire was only around for a few decades. By framing its beginning and end within Episodes 3-6 (the first half of Luke’s life) it never had to chance to mature.
andrew
2024-03-30 00:36:48 +0000 UTCI think I detect an elevator music version of the Tales from the Crypt theme at 23:00ish. Anyone else hear this? Or maybe it was the Beetlejuice cartoon. I’m in the process of becoming elderly so I’m probably wrong.
THE_GnomeChomskee
2024-03-30 00:27:54 +0000 UTCYet another timely video from the RLM gang.
The Real Zam
2024-03-29 23:00:08 +0000 UTCYeah… I mean I guess I liked it ok but… they forgot it was about the premise, possibly? It was no Dark.
THE_GnomeChomskee
2024-03-29 22:06:30 +0000 UTCAndor reminds me a lot of the sequel trilogy since I watched neither of them. Okay, dumb joke aside. I thoroughly enjoyed you guys talking about Star Wars.
Marvin Falz
2024-03-29 21:22:52 +0000 UTCAnother thing that I liked about Andor is that they avoided using any of the well known aliens we usually expect from Star Wars. There are no Wookies, no Twi'leks, no Rodians. The aliens they do show us are either very obscure, or new to the setting entirely. An interesting detail about the show that you guys didn't mention in the video.
Matthew McCoy
2024-03-29 21:22:39 +0000 UTCI asked my friend if his GF was excited about Andor coming. He replied, "she's a lot more interested in the coming part. I only get the end on my birthday."
Neil Peart, Lord of Drums
2024-03-29 21:10:34 +0000 UTCLet me start by saying that I haven't seen this show (or any Star Wars product since The Farts Awakened Me in the Theater (I literally fell asleep). But the kind of arc you're describing for this Syril guy is exactly the kind of arc I like seeing, as it's far more complex than "guy realizes he must take the pursuit of justice into his own hands because everyone else is corrupt" or whatever. Going from trying to do the right thing --> joining an organization (and ideology) that tells you it's committed to that --> disillusionment with that organization/ideology --> acceptance (I realize I've left out some important steps for..ahem...brevity) is far more interesting and, more importantly, rare in character arcs. I appreciate an arc like this far more than the one you see coming, where the guy realizes he's the only one who can bring change and/or rebel. Instead, he finally accepts his world, out of a sense of the whole world being full of liars, manipulators, and people who just don't care and/or are pursuing their own incompatible goals. He has no real power, he's just one man, he needs a job, and he slowly accepts his place in this world and the life he'll live. We all want heroes who cannot help but battle injustice and do the right thing, but we all make these compromises every day. We all do things we know are wrong or don't do things we know would be right. Do I still drive a gas-guzzling car because I absolutely adore it, have owned it since 2012, and can't find another that I like nearly as much? Yup (although I'll buy an electric car when we embrace nuclear energy. Until then, you can replace every car in the First World with an electric one and it won't make the slightest difference). But am I also a vegetarian because I can't stand the idea of eating animals that are inhumanely raised and/or slaughtered and/or have too high a degree of emotion and intelligence? Also yes. We all make good and bad choices every day, out of convenience, comfort, or the constraints of society. And, to be clear, I don't judge anyone for eating meat, as literally everyone I know does. It's one of the things that I personally chose to do right, among the many I've chosen to do wrong. And not everyone even agrees that it's right, and that's OK! I could write so much more about why this is vastly more interesting than the "I've finally realized what's good" arc -- especially in a show that's supposed to be dark and gritty -- like talking about how socioeconomic status and external expectations can lead people into accepting these situations, but I'm pretty sure this is the longest comment ever left on a Patreon post. And I'm sure nobody is reading at this point, and rightfully so! I'm just some rando on the internet who hasn't even watched the show! IOW: You do a Re:View of this before DS9? I just got an encrypted subspace communication from Krebs and he is FURIOUS. And no, I am not going to stop asking for a DS9 Re:View until it either happens or you guys tell me it's just not something you're interest in. Krebs for life!
Neil Peart, Lord of Drums
2024-03-29 21:01:10 +0000 UTCYay, I can't wait to watch those frauds talk about shit I don't give a fuck about for an hour...! <3
Manuel Johnen
2024-03-29 20:42:34 +0000 UTCThat show's premise had a lot of promise with an atrocious script. I kept asking myself every episode, "why am I still watching this?"
Neil Peart, Lord of Drums
2024-03-29 20:40:21 +0000 UTCno, but jokes aside, wouldn't it be great if we watched them find a kind of love with each other, and then in some fight a rebel just shoots one of them? wouldn't that be heartbreaking in an exciting way?
Peter Varga
2024-03-29 20:21:11 +0000 UTCI miss my childhood Star Wars. Too bad I can’t even revisit that… I mean I do have non special edition vhs but there is no Scart in on my tv. 💀
Michael Matzat
2024-03-29 20:17:44 +0000 UTCI am personally rooting for an S&M relationship blooming between him and the imperial lady.
Peter Varga
2024-03-29 19:56:12 +0000 UTCI agree it does show where Syril Karn came from essentially. He clearly had a very different upbringing than Andor. He had a status-driven over-bearing mother and his social status/family connections resulted in him being a brain-washed member of the imperial society. No real personality of his own. Just a stooge toeing the line of the Empire/Morlana Corp. Etc. I agree with all that. I think I just struggle with the drama angle. If the show was about, say, Andor and Karn as friends growing up and going separate ways then the show is about how the outside world can affect people’s choices in life etc etc… then that’s what it’s about. It seems to more focus on the how’s and why’s people rebel against authoritarianism. If Syril Karn is going to just be a more badder bad guy then why take so much time on him? Sure, we get a sense of how he came to be what he currently is, but at the end he’s clearly unhinged and something sure’s gonna happen. To what end dramatically does that lead to? Is his journey just to get back into the good graces of the Empire and work again to capture criminals? Seems sort of a dead end if he doesn’t have a larger arc.
Red Letter Media
2024-03-29 19:10:37 +0000 UTCoriginally they wanted 5 seasons, but ended up doing 4 seasons in one as 3 episodes each in s2. it’s already finished filming. the showrunner says it was his own decision to cut it down, but kathleen kennedy famously hated the first season, so I wonder if it was not actually her idea to half-cancel it, and the showrunner is just trying to save face for her. I would not be surprised. but maybe she’s innocent this time.
Peter Varga
2024-03-29 18:51:25 +0000 UTCDon’t ask for humor, Mike. They wont know how to do anything but fill the show with wacky hijinx. It’s like asking a 3 year old to put a dash of salt in the soup.
Joe Triscari
2024-03-29 18:45:59 +0000 UTCYou weren't supposed to let him know. Shhhh!
AshesBoomstick
2024-03-29 18:26:50 +0000 UTCMaybe this is not an appropriate comment, but I think before I watch this latest video/ newest most meaningful thing in my empty life, I may need to rewatch the Enemy Mine Re:View, coz y'know. :/
Zan Ferguson
2024-03-29 17:11:52 +0000 UTC'Andor' is the 'Rogue One' of Disney+ Star Wars series. Like that movie, it's not great but it is watchable and at least it's not aimed at kids.
DonMac
2024-03-29 17:09:03 +0000 UTCI don't much care for Star Wars but I liked Andor a lot.
Notation
2024-03-29 17:03:47 +0000 UTCIt's interesting that Mike complains about Kyle Soller's arc, and then complains about not being shown where the ISB people and stormtroopers come from. I thought Kyle Soller's arc was perfect for showing exactly where those people come from: He's a dude of medium competence and little means who gets kicked in the teeth over and over by the Empire, accepts that as part of the process, and slowly assimilates into whatever niche he fits best in. That he isn't a bad dude is crucial, it doesn't make sense that the whole empire would be sneering villains so much as self-serving bureaucrats. The banality of evil, and all that. The Empire is bound to be just a bunch of people like him. Well meaning, misguided, and not particularly stupid or smart. Also, Stellan Skarsgard being a Jedi doesn't automatically ruin his character. I thought one of the things that this series did really well was take Star Wars icons/imagery and make us consider them in a different light. Like the TIE fighters - they seem so inconsequential as they get shattered in space by X-Wings, but take one and fly it low and fast over some helpless people on the ground and all of a sudden they're filled with a brand new power and menace. It would be interesting to see that twist on a Jedi. Someone like Skarsgard, who hasn't turned to the dark side, but ain't exactly noble or honorable in pursuing their goals. Of course, this breaks the whole dark side/light side dichotomy (or should I say Force Dyad? Jesus Christ.) I don't think Disney will let them explore this too deeply, but I personally would love for them to explore someone who doesn't fall neatly into the light or dark camps.
Deckard Cain
2024-03-29 16:48:13 +0000 UTCNo interest in watching Andor (or Star Wars in general), but I'm delighted to watch your re:View of it!
Gunnar Roxen
2024-03-29 16:28:31 +0000 UTCMike, there is a book on the Mon Calamari, their culture, their military and economy that revolves around shipbuilding! Go Read it!
Javier Barragan
2024-03-29 16:16:42 +0000 UTCA lot of their questions are actually answered in expanded stuff like the comics or the animated shows. Clone Wars is about the empire taking down the current status, Bad Batch is them establishing themselves throughout the galaxy, Rebels is about the establishment of the rebellion on a galactic scale. Economics, local planet govts etc, those niche details are dug into a bit, for what would be imho too esoteric/boring for large scale stuff like the movies or even the live action shows.
Leafeonn (Josh K)
2024-03-29 15:55:57 +0000 UTCOh wow I didn’t recognize the actor who play Syril Karn in Bodies. That’s some good acting. Or a good fake beard.
THE_GnomeChomskee
2024-03-29 15:26:53 +0000 UTCThe Bad Batch is great for both kids and adults.
THE_GnomeChomskee
2024-03-29 15:15:07 +0000 UTCOh boy. This is gonna be good.
THE_GnomeChomskee
2024-03-29 15:09:09 +0000 UTCRLM rules, and/or spoils their fans.
GrowSweeds
2024-03-29 15:07:52 +0000 UTCoh my god
Roman O'Brien
2024-03-29 15:07:39 +0000 UTCIt happened!
C_DOES
2024-03-29 15:05:42 +0000 UTCEnd, or.
Javier Barragan
2024-03-29 15:03:24 +0000 UTCAnd or what?
Matthew Chambers
2024-03-29 14:59:52 +0000 UTC
