SGU COMMUNITY Livestream // Friday January 7th 2022
Added 2022-01-07 21:33:39 +0000 UTC
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Jess, I can guarantee you that shaming someone for something they’ve said or done has next no effect on motivating them to change. At least that what I’ve come to understand through the research of Dr Brene Brown.
RawkGWJ
2022-01-14 14:11:45 +0000 UTCHell, I'm with ya Jay. And I think Steve owes you an apology too. In a rare mis-step for him, Whose show is it? Would anyone else have to wear that kinda public scolding from Steve? Would they? In my opinion: I've disagreed for a long time with 'Don't feed the trolls'. Evil gets fought where and when it happens. Long term strategies like education and so on, sure. But there is value to calling out abhorrence like 'I'll party when...' when it happens too. There is value in having no patience, any more, for say Trump supporters. If, as Steve said there is almost always nuance and only very few cookie cutter stereo types, ok. But the 'any more' there, well if you have had the discussions, tried to find common ground, pointed out the blatant lies and flaws in the reasoning. When all of that has happened and people still refuse to shift even a tiny bit in their position as has occasionally been my experience. When you have been as intellectually honest as possible, considered their view points, thoughtfully interrogated their and your own position. When, even if they claim they are not the cookie cutter but still say the same stuff that the cookie cutters do. When! When all of that, then I have no problem with impatience. I have no problem with shaming. I have no problem with telling people to just grow up and act like an adult. Sneering contempt is in fact a response, among many other options for sure, that is not to be taken off the table. The only reason I wouldn't do THAT in the case of 'I'm sorry you misunderstood my comment' is because I don't like being sneeringly contemptuous. But shame and contempt can indeed work as a strategy. If someone lit a cigarette in a primary school class room, that would be the response. Now. So much so that not many people would it even cross their mind to do so. But only after a long, long public campaign against smoking and part of that is shame, or fear, or contempt, or a bunch of other frankly emotive and manipulative tactics and strategies. Don't get me wrong, along side all the other positive fact and reason and compassion based stuff too, but there it is. Just as a for instance.
Jess Donovan
2022-01-09 11:04:23 +0000 UTCWell, that was unpleasant.
Richard Bennett
2022-01-08 01:36:10 +0000 UTC
