Live Stream + Chaos Coins
Added 2018-04-18 03:37:59 +0000 UTC
Dear Insane Children,
Martin and American (that's me) have set a time for this week's live stream. You can set a reminder via YouTube - or set your alarms for 09:00 Friday Morning, Hong Kong time (5PM on Thursday, PST). We'll discuss Pirate Jam, Asylum, Out of the Woods - and we'll continue our play through of "American McGee's Alice."
If you have questions or comments on recent Asylum development please be sure to get those into Patreon prior to the stream so that we can address those during the stream. Yay!
Here's something to consider and discuss during the stream...
For Pirate Jam we created some pirate doubloons which measured 4.5cm across and featured the Pirate Jam pixel skull. They came out really hefty and impressive!

So... the idea is to produce coins like these which feature the Cheshire Cat face on one side and the Chaos symbol on the other side along with the latin motto "Solve et Coagula" (dissolve to re-form). These "Chaos Coins" would be offered to you as Patrons and to future crowd-funding backers (at a higher price than is available here) - and would eventually make their way into Alice: Asylum as an in-game collectible/currency.
We can attach a name/number to each of the in-game coins so that, when collected, you can inspect them and see to whom that coin belongs. That's an interesting way of getting your name in-game! Plus, you'll have in hand a physical coin which will last forever.
I'd like to offer these coins as the next reward here on Patreon. Perhaps at the 2500 Patron level for all Patrons at $35 and above (when we cross the goal)? When thinking about cost, please keep in mind that the cost of the coins to manufacture is ~$10USD and shipping ~$10USD each.
That's a back-of-envelope sketch of the idea... please feel free to poke holes in it in the comments below. We'll discuss your feedback during this week's live stream.
From Shanghai,
-American
Love the coins, reminds me of a lot of kickstarter playing card projects where they are add ons, so maybe playing cards & dice for future merch ideas too? Also looking forward to the enamel pins if that happens! I'd really like to see a collared pin, Alice linked with her knife or the Cheshire cat maybe?
nopedia
2018-04-29 02:20:50 +0000 UTC
I love this idea and, while I will admittedly increase then decrease my sponsor level, for the right item I'd do it again and at a higher cost.
SCarey151
2018-04-21 22:35:09 +0000 UTC
I absolutely love the coin idea, but I didn't understand if it would cost 35$ to get one or if I had to start paying 35$ a month... Cause I absolutely can't afford that
2018-04-21 11:27:10 +0000 UTC
Love the coin and I think that the 35$ tier is fair do we have a goal for it yet
2018-04-20 23:17:49 +0000 UTC
Ooh I love the coin idea! I hope by the time we hit that level of patrons I can afford the $35 tier but probably not :( Time to catch up on the stream now!
2018-04-20 20:07:30 +0000 UTC
i have just one thing to say... SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!! but seriously though i would LOVE to have one of those! especially like the idea of being able to find "mine" in game.
Haxxton VonWham
2018-04-20 20:01:22 +0000 UTC
I love idea ! go go go ! :D
2018-04-20 10:38:08 +0000 UTC
American, I'd buy ten of em... Make it happen.
truth_decay
2018-04-19 22:17:40 +0000 UTC
Actually, thatβs an incredible idea. Especially with the offer to tag names to each of them found in game, be it that itβs a part that makes its way to the game.
Tori
2018-04-19 18:38:56 +0000 UTC
Love the coin idea. So very much.
2018-04-19 13:06:07 +0000 UTC
Not really much feedback to give, this is a splendid idea for an item. Alice is one of the few games that has really resonated with me and I'm glad that you're a developer that supports those who support you.
2018-04-19 06:13:01 +0000 UTC
The coins are a nice idea, though I have a question about the in-game coins...would they only be for the patrons at the $35 (and higher) level who got the physical coins, or would all the patrons at the time the 2,500 goal is hit get in the game? Looking forward to the next livestream and watching American struggle...er, I mean, play through his game...
2018-04-19 04:01:18 +0000 UTC
Love love love the Chaos Coins idea! And having our name on a coin in-game? Such a unique and awesome idea to implement! I'd feel so much more proud to be apart of this and have something to show it forever on and actually be a part of in-game in some way. <3
Since the coins cost you about $20 to make & ship, why not introduce a new $25 tier for this? That would cover the cost and a little extra to still go towards development for the game. Plus, you can keep this tier for future rewards too! Excellent idea, no?
I know I was one of the few who originally suggested the $35 tier, though sadly I just have't been able to upgrade to that myself with bills and all... I'm stuck at the $15 tier, but I know I can throw in an extra ten easy. Especially for this. (^β½^)γ
2018-04-19 02:26:15 +0000 UTC
It'll be 2am for the stream over here in Scotland xD If I was able to get more shifts and work my ass off then I'd be able to afford the $35 a month but sadly I can't xD For any future rewards, would they be offered to the lower-level tier patrons? Also for an idea, once the target goal has been reached you could have 1 coin extra and have a raffle type competition. Everyone gets their name put into a hat (or donate $1 for their name to be put in) and you choose a name at random on live stream? (For anyone who is pledging $35 or more won't need to do it since they'll already be getting one)
2018-04-18 22:20:23 +0000 UTC
You are slowly going to be picking away at my wallet, huh? π
2018-04-18 17:21:22 +0000 UTC
I just hope you won't let these coins go to brands or websites. You said you wouldn't make the game if you had to put futterwacken in it. Well, I wouldn't buy it if there's a chance to find unheartfelt things in it.
Make Nine Inch Nails great again
2018-04-18 14:40:35 +0000 UTC
I had the same feeling about goal rewards until I realized that 99% of the people who hopped in for the rewards became steady patrons.
Make Nine Inch Nails great again
2018-04-18 13:21:19 +0000 UTC
I think its a flawed system really. Some one could back for one month at $35, get the coin then stop. While people who have been at lower tiers since the start get nothing despite contributing more overall ?
Might be better suited as a kickstarter goal if thats the way it needs to go later ?
Not that i'm trying to talk my self out of getting a cool coin here ! I sure as hell want one :)
2018-04-18 12:49:00 +0000 UTC
I really like the concept of the coins, with the connection to the game! It's a really cool, unique and personal idea, that makes you feel even more a part of this.
I'm not sure about it as a Patreon goal, though. I totally get, that you can't do it with any lower level tiers, but as lower level tier patron, I would feel a wee bit cheated., and I could see how future low-level tier patrons could feel the same. I do see, how it's difficult to make physical rewards for every level, without losing money.
You could do as a stand-alone reward to all 35$+ patrons, maybe? It could be a good teaser though, to get people to sign up for that level tier.
I hope I will be able to make the next stream! It is my boyfriends' 30th birthday, so I might be forced to skip this one, for the sake of peace and love (:
2018-04-18 12:32:11 +0000 UTC
Looks like an awesome concept, I would die to have my name in the game.
Hope we get to 2500
The stream is going to be at 1AM for me (UK) so I doubt I'll be around long, sorry
2018-04-18 07:47:53 +0000 UTC
You really know how to push our buttons!!! Getting some form of identification of ourselves in-game on a collectable is just irresistible :OO
2018-04-18 07:11:40 +0000 UTC
Oh who am I kidding. My budget can stretch a bit. The $35 level will give me art. I'm gonna do it.
Rosuav
2018-04-18 05:43:00 +0000 UTC
Definitely interested in the coin, but like several others, my budget would be happier if I bought it as a one-off. What if you put a hard limit on the number of coins (say, 1000 or 2000 or whatever), and then everyone at the $35 level automatically gets one, then all other backers get notified that they can jump in and get them at a discounted rate, and finally it's opened up to everyone?
Rosuav
2018-04-18 05:42:07 +0000 UTC
I love the idea of the coins, (especially the inclusion of the coins in-game!) and I'd definitely upgrade my pledge for that :)
2018-04-18 05:27:09 +0000 UTC
Would love to have one of these coins (so, need to wait for next goal announced)! Also love the idea of it as in-game collectible!
2018-04-18 05:20:43 +0000 UTC
Very cool idea for the coins and the in game, also yay another live stream. Can't wait to watch you continue where you last left off :). Looking forward to all the new updates and info.
2018-04-18 04:18:07 +0000 UTC
I love the coin idea..i hope to get another job by then if that would be a actual thing cause that would take over half my more so side job but would be totally worth it! i also like that you are using the Solve et Coagula cause its a stellar song by one of my favorite bands n now its used by one of my favorite artist an game creators. i hope in the near future to be able to do the 75 dollar or more tier cause even on the least expensive tier i still love that we get 3 days early access..no matter which way you go you get your money well worth not to mention all the extras you provide with different goals. quality content an material, never disappointed.
2018-04-18 04:02:39 +0000 UTC
I love this coin idea a chance to actually have our names on collectibles in the game. sounds awesome and I think the designs on the coin are cool. But I'm a little too broke right now to go for $35 a month, yeah I got to be responsible and save cash right now. Its nice but its not like I need it. I don't need the shiny Doubloon right now, I don't need it I don't need it, I don't need it idont needitidontneedit,idontneeditidontneeditidontneeditidontneeditidontneedit id ont. Need. It. I DON'T NEED IT, I. DOnt. Need. It. I. DON'T. NEED.IT! I doot need it. I sont need it, I don't feed it, I doount need it ufiod beed ut, o foint meed it. I siubt kesd ti. Iccing dom't jeed it udomtmewdit j donnnt needs it. I could really use some french π right now.
Lucas Severin
2018-04-18 03:55:44 +0000 UTC
Awesome coin idea. I don't think I would be able to personally pledge more money. But would be very interested in buying a coin once you are able to sell them. Sadly i just don't have a ton of money right now. But love to help in abyway I can. Sounds like a super cool idea! My question for the live stream: are you still dead set on the concept of the 5 stages of grief to be what alice asylum will be about? Because I still very much love this idea. And in what ways are you planning to bring awareness to surviers guilt in this game? As mental illness awareness is prevelant in your games, I am very excited to hear what you may have planned. Even if you can't tell me much :) thank you.
2018-04-18 03:52:27 +0000 UTC
YAY! LIVE STREAM!!I love the use of coins in the game and ones in real life!! Btw thank you for my certificate!!!π its so pretty!
2018-04-18 03:42:59 +0000 UTC